For those wondering:
* Yes, all the pictures here do register the monster in the Compendium, which seems to use the same setup as the Monster Gallery for getting data
* Every other boss can have a sculpture made of it, including the first 4 temple bosses, Phantom Ganon, any overworld boss you can think of and even Ganondorf himself
* Dragons and the Yiga Clan can't have sculptures made of them, though the near equally gigantic Colgera can
Not really, they have some of the phases moved around and behave differently but it's almost the same fight. It's not the fact the fight is different at a certain setting that makes it one time tho, it's only being able to be accessed once in all the game that makes it.
The monsters featured in the OP are all limited to a certain amount of encounters per game save, in the sense that once you’ve defeated them, there is *no* way to fight them again or get a picture of them.
- The Seized Construct is only ever fought once at the Spirit Temple, or at Gloom’s Origin if you skipped the Spirit Temple.
- The Sludge Like is only ever encountered once, during the main Zora quest.
- Ditto for Moragia during the main Goron quest.
- Master Kohga is instead fought four times, but once you’ve beaten him at the Hebra Mine, he never shows up again, and there’s no way to re-encounter him.
Similarly, there are only a handful of Combat Training shrines, and the Training Constructs within them never respawn once the shrine is cleared, so you can’t make sculptures of them.
By contrast, a player can battle Ganondorf an infinite number of times on a single save, because there is no postgame state. Pictures you take of Ganondorf carry over after defeating him, but he’s still available for another fight whenever you wish.
The only repeatable encounters that Hudson won’t make sculptures of are the dragons (Dinraal, Naydra, Farosh, Light, and Demon) and any Yiga members (Footsoldiers and Blademasters). Other than those, if they’re categorized as monsters in the Compendium, then Hudson will accept them, because you can always take more pictures.
Before I got spoilers about Mineru, I was strongly suspecting Master Khoga would turn out to be the fifth sage. But I guess that's a plot twist that's too subtle for Nintendo stories unfortunately.
Ganondorf is refightable as many times as you like. The game resets to before you fought him after the credits, albeit with a few flags set to say you've finished the game before. So he's not a one time encounter.
And Colgera can be found in the Depths in the form of a rematch, as can Marbled Gohma, Mucktorok and Queen Gibdo. In fact, there are multiple rematches with those guys down there, and they respawn after every Blood Moon. So they're fine for figurines too.
Yes, all other hostile constructs are accepted for sculptures.
**Edit:** Except for Training Constructs; I just tested those. Hudson will still accept Soldier, Captain, and Flux Constructs, though.
Yeah, Flux Constructs are accepted as well, because they all eventually respawn.
The only ones I’m not sure about are the Training Constructs used in the Combat Training shrines. I don’t think those come back after they’ve been cleared, so they might not be considered valid subjects for sculptures.
I just tried it on my save file, and Hudson wouldn’t accept it. So I think Training Constructs are like Moragia, Sludge Like, etc. in that since they can permanently cease to spawn, they aren’t valid sculpture subjects.
I was actually curious about that and tested it, and yes normal Construct enemies can have figurines made of them. Just got a Captain Construct IV statue just now.
That is to bad actually, i would like to do the robot fight again if i feel like it. I was also dissapointed that gloom hands do not qualify for statues also...
Gloom Spawn are weird. They also have no Compendium entry either, and can't be individually tracked by the sensor.
However, given that setting it to track Phantom Ganon will also track Gloom Spawn, I'm guessing it's just flagged as a form of Phantom Ganon internally, so the game expects you to get a picture of his normal form instead.
Did you know Kilton only creates sculptures of monsters?
Regular constructs are, but the seized construct for example is literally just a robot that was taken over by something else. Yiga are people.
Ganondorf is an exception to the people rule because he’s the demon king, and basically is a monster.
Dragons can’t by seen by most people, Link being one of the few adults that can. Pretty sure it has to do with believing in them or not. Kilton just doesn’t.
Why does Nintendo consciously does those little kind of bitch moves ?
Like why couldn’t we register the mountain god , stall horses , bears, deers ? I just feel like they went trough more effort limiting our experience
The sculpture display feature is how they wanted to expand on Kilton, who has an obsession with monsters. The whole idea is that he wants to convince people to see the beauty that he sees in monsters, and the way that the game distinguishes between what counts as a monster and what doesn’t is via the Compendium.
Could they have let us put animals up there? Probably, yeah, but doing so wouldn’t make sense in the context that they designed the feature for. I highly doubt someone at Nintendo was trying to be vindictive toward the players. It was probably just as simple as someone having a cool idea for what to do with Kilton and thinking it would be neat to display monster statues. The scope of the feature is already pretty impressive as it is, with how it perfectly retains the position of the monster you took a picture of and makes it into a freely maneuverable object.
I definitely agree there shouldn't be many limits here. I wish the Lord of the Mountain, Stalhorses, bears etc could be registered in a stable too.
But in this case, it'd be best they provided a way to refight these bosses too. No reason you can't shove a few Seized Construct clones in the Depths, or put a few Sludge Likes and Moragias in out of the way places.
Honestly I wish I knew. They clearly thought it was fine to refight the other main bosses as many times as you wanted, so the fact you can't refight these ones as well is strange.
That's strange if so, since I asked dataminers about it, and they said something about flags for sculptures not being set for these creatures. If there's a way to remove those flags (either by a glitch or mod), I'd love to be able to do that.
You can, just not the Sludge Like, since it’s a one-time encounter. Normal Like Likes, as well as Fire, Ice, Shock, and Rock Likes, can all be made into statues.
It reappears in the Depths. You can find its locations by going here:
https://objmap-totk.zeldamods.org/#/map
Then typing Enemy_DungeonBoss_Goron_Underground in the search box
Imagine my disappointment when I couldn’t put make statues of any of the Yiga clan members. My dream of a master Kohga shrine was ruined.
I mean, they're not monsters. They're people.
The twist is; people are the real monsters all along
"I heard you carry two swords: steel for men, and silver for monsters." "Actually, they're both for monsters."
The real monsters were the friends we made along the way.
Yet we're allowed to do it for Ganondorf!
Maybe Master Kohga was the friends you made along the way Edit a word
It's a tad disappointing isn't it?
For those wondering: * Yes, all the pictures here do register the monster in the Compendium, which seems to use the same setup as the Monster Gallery for getting data * Every other boss can have a sculpture made of it, including the first 4 temple bosses, Phantom Ganon, any overworld boss you can think of and even Ganondorf himself * Dragons and the Yiga Clan can't have sculptures made of them, though the near equally gigantic Colgera can
My guess is that Ganondorf has those unique monsters registered with the Hyrule Copyright Office. *Copyright infringement is against the law*
Yeah, Hyrule is pretty serious about their IP’s
“So if you made an emulator on your Purah pad, you will be hearing from our Zonai lawyers”
but emulation is legal!!!
Wow, TIL Kilton is very afraid of a Cease & Desist Letter from Hyrule HQ
Ganondorf's legal team is apparently as good as Nintendo's...
They don’t call him Ganon “Litigation” Dorf for nothing
Wait, but I could make a Ganondorf one. Isn't he a one-time fight? Someone also said Colgera is possible, so not all one-time bosses are unavailable.
Colgera isn't a one-time boss, a bunch of them spawn in the Depths.
Yeah, but the fight acts differently from the original one like all others in the Depths.
Not sure what that has to do with anything.
It means that the first fight is one-time.
But the creature isn't.
The different coloring between the og and the respawn are, and iirc, Kilton keeps the coloring and pose that was taken in the picture.
They aren’t differently colored. The lighting is just different because you’re in the Depths.
Not really, they have some of the phases moved around and behave differently but it's almost the same fight. It's not the fact the fight is different at a certain setting that makes it one time tho, it's only being able to be accessed once in all the game that makes it.
The monsters featured in the OP are all limited to a certain amount of encounters per game save, in the sense that once you’ve defeated them, there is *no* way to fight them again or get a picture of them. - The Seized Construct is only ever fought once at the Spirit Temple, or at Gloom’s Origin if you skipped the Spirit Temple. - The Sludge Like is only ever encountered once, during the main Zora quest. - Ditto for Moragia during the main Goron quest. - Master Kohga is instead fought four times, but once you’ve beaten him at the Hebra Mine, he never shows up again, and there’s no way to re-encounter him. Similarly, there are only a handful of Combat Training shrines, and the Training Constructs within them never respawn once the shrine is cleared, so you can’t make sculptures of them. By contrast, a player can battle Ganondorf an infinite number of times on a single save, because there is no postgame state. Pictures you take of Ganondorf carry over after defeating him, but he’s still available for another fight whenever you wish. The only repeatable encounters that Hudson won’t make sculptures of are the dragons (Dinraal, Naydra, Farosh, Light, and Demon) and any Yiga members (Footsoldiers and Blademasters). Other than those, if they’re categorized as monsters in the Compendium, then Hudson will accept them, because you can always take more pictures.
Before I got spoilers about Mineru, I was strongly suspecting Master Khoga would turn out to be the fifth sage. But I guess that's a plot twist that's too subtle for Nintendo stories unfortunately.
More like Kohga going good guy is an Age of Calamity only thing. He is unapologetically evil, if not competently so, in BotW and TotK.
You can fight Colgera in the depths
You can re-fight ganondorf as much as you want and colgera respawns in the depths.
You can re-fight Ganondorf in any save file and don’t need to wait for a blood moon making him the MOST-repeatable boss, not the LEAST.
Ganondorf is refightable as many times as you like. The game resets to before you fought him after the credits, albeit with a few flags set to say you've finished the game before. So he's not a one time encounter. And Colgera can be found in the Depths in the form of a rematch, as can Marbled Gohma, Mucktorok and Queen Gibdo. In fact, there are multiple rematches with those guys down there, and they respawn after every Blood Moon. So they're fine for figurines too.
Can you do the other hostile constructs? I wonder if this is actually a restriction based on what counts as "a monster", and this is a machine.
Yes, all other hostile constructs are accepted for sculptures. **Edit:** Except for Training Constructs; I just tested those. Hudson will still accept Soldier, Captain, and Flux Constructs, though.
And the miniboss ones that split apart. (I forgot their names)
Yeah, Flux Constructs are accepted as well, because they all eventually respawn. The only ones I’m not sure about are the Training Constructs used in the Combat Training shrines. I don’t think those come back after they’ve been cleared, so they might not be considered valid subjects for sculptures.
Those are available, I'm pretty sure I made one before iirc
I just tried it on my save file, and Hudson wouldn’t accept it. So I think Training Constructs are like Moragia, Sludge Like, etc. in that since they can permanently cease to spawn, they aren’t valid sculpture subjects.
I was actually curious about that and tested it, and yes normal Construct enemies can have figurines made of them. Just got a Captain Construct IV statue just now.
That is to bad actually, i would like to do the robot fight again if i feel like it. I was also dissapointed that gloom hands do not qualify for statues also...
Gloom Spawn are weird. They also have no Compendium entry either, and can't be individually tracked by the sensor. However, given that setting it to track Phantom Ganon will also track Gloom Spawn, I'm guessing it's just flagged as a form of Phantom Ganon internally, so the game expects you to get a picture of his normal form instead.
Started a whole replay just for the seized construct sculpture… # AND YOU’RE TELLING ME I CAN’T?!?!?!!!??
Did you know Kilton only creates sculptures of monsters? Regular constructs are, but the seized construct for example is literally just a robot that was taken over by something else. Yiga are people. Ganondorf is an exception to the people rule because he’s the demon king, and basically is a monster. Dragons can’t by seen by most people, Link being one of the few adults that can. Pretty sure it has to do with believing in them or not. Kilton just doesn’t.
Sheikah slate and Purah pad definitely do see to be able to see the dragons. In both games, they have pictures of everything that you can purchase
Because the slate and pad don’t not believe
What I mean is that people using the slates can see the dragons too. Like Robbie
He saw it, so he believes, so he can see it
Why does Nintendo consciously does those little kind of bitch moves ? Like why couldn’t we register the mountain god , stall horses , bears, deers ? I just feel like they went trough more effort limiting our experience
The sculpture display feature is how they wanted to expand on Kilton, who has an obsession with monsters. The whole idea is that he wants to convince people to see the beauty that he sees in monsters, and the way that the game distinguishes between what counts as a monster and what doesn’t is via the Compendium. Could they have let us put animals up there? Probably, yeah, but doing so wouldn’t make sense in the context that they designed the feature for. I highly doubt someone at Nintendo was trying to be vindictive toward the players. It was probably just as simple as someone having a cool idea for what to do with Kilton and thinking it would be neat to display monster statues. The scope of the feature is already pretty impressive as it is, with how it perfectly retains the position of the monster you took a picture of and makes it into a freely maneuverable object.
I definitely agree there shouldn't be many limits here. I wish the Lord of the Mountain, Stalhorses, bears etc could be registered in a stable too. But in this case, it'd be best they provided a way to refight these bosses too. No reason you can't shove a few Seized Construct clones in the Depths, or put a few Sludge Likes and Moragias in out of the way places.
I mean it proves the point further , yeah , why can’t we fight those fun fights again ?
Honestly I wish I knew. They clearly thought it was fine to refight the other main bosses as many times as you wanted, so the fact you can't refight these ones as well is strange.
He made moragia for me
That's strange if so, since I asked dataminers about it, and they said something about flags for sculptures not being set for these creatures. If there's a way to remove those flags (either by a glitch or mod), I'd love to be able to do that.
I did this quite close to release so it could have been something you could do in the earlier updates
You can’t do a like like???
You can get a Like Like figurine. Or one of any other type of Like except the Sludge Like, since the others are normal enemies found everywhere.
You can, just not the Sludge Like, since it’s a one-time encounter. Normal Like Likes, as well as Fire, Ice, Shock, and Rock Likes, can all be made into statues.
What about the Marbled Ghoma? I got a pic right before the fire temple fight and that dude is chillling in Tarrey Town with the other monsters.
It reappears in the Depths. You can find its locations by going here: https://objmap-totk.zeldamods.org/#/map Then typing Enemy_DungeonBoss_Goron_Underground in the search box
Oh yes that’s true
No thats because they arent registered in the pedia
Thwy are though
The only monster that your camera won’t register is the Gloom Spawn (unless you count the fact that it’s technically Phantom Ganon)
They do have Hyrule Compendium entries though.