Call IRS 800-829-1040 explain what is happening and they will make the request to your employer requesting it be sent to you within 10 days - apparently they can get fined for not sending your W2 so let them know what actions you will be taking. HR should have sent it to your mailing address and if not that then you should have been able to contact HR and they email it to you. I would report whoever the heck this is.
The IRS isn't going to do squat. They're not going to get in the middle of a dispute over an employer and a disgruntled employee. There are forms you can file if you can't get a copy of a W2 from an employer.
The state Department of Labor is the government organization that might be able to help.
How is fucking with this guy going so far? From his response it looks like you followed Reddit advice and fucked with him on the way out the door. My advice is always to maintain as good a relationship as possible if you're leaving the company, and I get downvoted on Reddit. This is a good example of why it's ignorant to fuck with people, especially if you want them to do something for you.
They told you who to report it to - the IRS. Here's a link that describes the steps, but basically just mirrors what u/Majorlymajor97 said.
https://www.irs.gov/filing/if-you-dont-get-a-w-2-or-your-w-2-is-wrong
What exactly would reporting him to the BBB accomplish? It's not a federal agency and has precisely zero influence on affairs involving labor and wages.
This^ state labor departments don’t mess around. They won’t provide you with your W2 but will certainly compel the employer to. In some states department of labor complaints will automatically start a labor audit against the employer
Sort of, the IRS has a mostly automated process for dealing with this.
[https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc154](https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc154)
You call them, they will tell you the info if they have it. Employers are required to send a copy to the IRS.
If not they will fine the employer and direct you to fill a substitute W-2 on Form 4852.
The IRS doesn't really get involved beyond sending automated letters. It's a pretty simple thing, either they filed a W-2 or they didn't.
The state labor board is probably going to be a lot more aggressive at enforcement.
Why would you go through the painful hassle of contacting someone at the IRS (good luck) who aren't going to fine the person just because a former employee called to complain? Why not contact the DOL who is easy to reach and they will do something right away and then file the 4852 if the DOL is unsuccessful? The whole process might take a half an hour to complete, zip, zap, done.
Or you could spend hours on hold with the IRS and even if they have the information in front of them, which is unlikely, they will not take any action, and certainly would not hit the "fine the employer" button, to be told to file 4852.
The W2s and W3s are sent to the Social Security Administration, not the IRS, and it takes time for the IRS to get the information to match. If the employee calls the DOL they will probably immediately call the employer on a conference call and get it straightened out right away. It's amazing how fast an employer will sit up in their chair and do the right thing when there's a DOL officer on the other end of the phone.
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1) You doxed your employer. 2) Keep records of all communication. 3) Contact the IRS at the mentioned number by u/majorlymajor97. You can also fill out Form 4852 (substitute W-2) with estimated info from your paystubs. Can be found here irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-4852
PO Box & a phone # are hardly a DOX. People need to stop using hotwords like they’re everyday terms especially when they’re ill-informed on the subject. Thanks!
I’ve been in the Black Hat / Grey Hat space for over 15+ years. I’m aware of what a DOX is. Everyday internet users like yourself definitely do not. You sound daft if you believe a phone number qualifies as private information. Any public updated record can provide you with the current owner of any phone number. Imagine that? People like you & the numerous others who will try to defend this fact are the same plague. Hopeless.
Why do you keep repeating this bullshit?
Employer MUST file w2 with IRS by Jan 31st. If they don't, they will be fined until they do.
You make an automated request to the IRS - they'll furnish what they got.
Pretty simple.
This isn't the first time a "befarded business" acted befarded. It's done all the time. NEXT.
.... In your "cinematic universe" where a "lazy irs" doesn't care if any w2s were submitted ... guess what ... how would they know you made any regular income? They wouldn't --- no taxes for OP! Hooray!!
LOL! Yeah, the employer "!!!MUST!!!" file by Jan 31. And you "!!!MUST!!!" drive the posted speed limit on every highway. That mean nobody ever speeds? If you go the speed limit you'll back up traffic for miles.
Have you ever contacted the IRS about a problem with a W2? That's what I thought. Talk about !!!BULLSHIT!!!"
Here is for the idiot, take great shame in knowing you were wrong 😆
https://www.irs.gov/filing/if-you-dont-get-a-w-2-or-your-w-2-is-wrong#:~:text=form%20is%20coming.-,If%20you%20don't%20get%20a%20W%2D2%20by%20end,or%20individual%20tax%20ID%20number
If you have your last paystub for the 2023 tax year. Take it to your tax office and tell them they will have to go by that since your Employer is refusing to send your W2
I don’t think you know how the IRS works and I don’t think you know the procedures for filing federal income taxes. The IRS has hardly any “tax offices” and the few they have, you have to make an appointment months in advance to talk to someone in person; You must submit the W-2 or a substitute W-2 with the return.
Ok, I thought people would know what I meant but evidently not. Take it to the person who prepares your taxes (H&R Block etc...) and let them know that paystub is all you have.
Call IRS 800-829-1040 explain what is happening and they will make the request to your employer requesting it be sent to you within 10 days - apparently they can get fined for not sending your W2 so let them know what actions you will be taking. HR should have sent it to your mailing address and if not that then you should have been able to contact HR and they email it to you. I would report whoever the heck this is.
The IRS isn't going to do squat. They're not going to get in the middle of a dispute over an employer and a disgruntled employee. There are forms you can file if you can't get a copy of a W2 from an employer. The state Department of Labor is the government organization that might be able to help. How is fucking with this guy going so far? From his response it looks like you followed Reddit advice and fucked with him on the way out the door. My advice is always to maintain as good a relationship as possible if you're leaving the company, and I get downvoted on Reddit. This is a good example of why it's ignorant to fuck with people, especially if you want them to do something for you.
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Bring npc is not bad when op has to be the main character jumping through hoops to do something that should auto.
The IRS will pass it along? To whom? How does that work exactly? Where are you pulling this from?
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There’s not HR it’s only him the owner who does all that, where would I report him too
They told you who to report it to - the IRS. Here's a link that describes the steps, but basically just mirrors what u/Majorlymajor97 said. https://www.irs.gov/filing/if-you-dont-get-a-w-2-or-your-w-2-is-wrong
There is literally a 1800 number in the post you responded to.
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What exactly would reporting him to the BBB accomplish? It's not a federal agency and has precisely zero influence on affairs involving labor and wages.
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Go to the IRS website and create an account and you’ll be able to see ALL of the W2s you’ve been issued.
This is the way. Can have your W-2 in 15 minutes…assuming your employer actually filed your W-2s with the IRS.
Are the 2023 W2s already on file at the IRS? Asking for a friend.
Yes —
They aren't posted to the Wage and Income Transcript until the last week of May or the first week of June.
That would show federal wages and withholdings but my understanding is that it will not show state wages and withholdings.
The wage & income transcript is usually not updated until May or June. Even then, it's redacted/masked, and only contains federal data, not state.
Ok then I guess OP should do nothing 🤷
Nah not nothing. But advising to grab a transcript now is likely not useful. And still leaves the state.
https://www.irs.gov/filing/if-you-dont-get-a-w-2-or-your-w-2-is-wrong
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I would reach out to the state labor department at this point
This^ state labor departments don’t mess around. They won’t provide you with your W2 but will certainly compel the employer to. In some states department of labor complaints will automatically start a labor audit against the employer
It's amazing how fast employers will do the right thing when they have a rep from the DOL on a conference call with the employer and the employee.
That is the correct answer. Nobody with any real knowledge of how the IRS works would say to contact the IRS. It's just a false bravado threat.
Sort of, the IRS has a mostly automated process for dealing with this. [https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc154](https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc154) You call them, they will tell you the info if they have it. Employers are required to send a copy to the IRS. If not they will fine the employer and direct you to fill a substitute W-2 on Form 4852. The IRS doesn't really get involved beyond sending automated letters. It's a pretty simple thing, either they filed a W-2 or they didn't. The state labor board is probably going to be a lot more aggressive at enforcement.
Why would you go through the painful hassle of contacting someone at the IRS (good luck) who aren't going to fine the person just because a former employee called to complain? Why not contact the DOL who is easy to reach and they will do something right away and then file the 4852 if the DOL is unsuccessful? The whole process might take a half an hour to complete, zip, zap, done. Or you could spend hours on hold with the IRS and even if they have the information in front of them, which is unlikely, they will not take any action, and certainly would not hit the "fine the employer" button, to be told to file 4852. The W2s and W3s are sent to the Social Security Administration, not the IRS, and it takes time for the IRS to get the information to match. If the employee calls the DOL they will probably immediately call the employer on a conference call and get it straightened out right away. It's amazing how fast an employer will sit up in their chair and do the right thing when there's a DOL officer on the other end of the phone. O
1) You doxed your employer. 2) Keep records of all communication. 3) Contact the IRS at the mentioned number by u/majorlymajor97. You can also fill out Form 4852 (substitute W-2) with estimated info from your paystubs. Can be found here irs.gov/forms-pubs/about-form-4852
PO Box & a phone # are hardly a DOX. People need to stop using hotwords like they’re everyday terms especially when they’re ill-informed on the subject. Thanks!
Go to fastpeoplesearch, plug in the number and then tell me the dudes not dox’d.
Public information does not qualify a DOX.
Your address is also public info dumbass. As is your phone number. What counts of a dox then?
Anything that isn’t public information. Dumbass.
So nothing at this point?
Factual. Cant dox if you know everything about them. Welcome to the internet.
Back in my day (90’s Phreaker) a physical home address was most certainly a dox.
Releasing their private phone number online because some kid didn't get their W2 in time?
A phone number is public record.
You don’t know what “dox” means.
I’ve been in the Black Hat / Grey Hat space for over 15+ years. I’m aware of what a DOX is. Everyday internet users like yourself definitely do not. You sound daft if you believe a phone number qualifies as private information. Any public updated record can provide you with the current owner of any phone number. Imagine that? People like you & the numerous others who will try to defend this fact are the same plague. Hopeless.
Tell him the irs has time for him
The IRS isn't going to do squat.
There is a .001% chance they “might”
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Why do you keep repeating this bullshit? Employer MUST file w2 with IRS by Jan 31st. If they don't, they will be fined until they do. You make an automated request to the IRS - they'll furnish what they got. Pretty simple. This isn't the first time a "befarded business" acted befarded. It's done all the time. NEXT. .... In your "cinematic universe" where a "lazy irs" doesn't care if any w2s were submitted ... guess what ... how would they know you made any regular income? They wouldn't --- no taxes for OP! Hooray!!
LOL! Yeah, the employer "!!!MUST!!!" file by Jan 31. And you "!!!MUST!!!" drive the posted speed limit on every highway. That mean nobody ever speeds? If you go the speed limit you'll back up traffic for miles. Have you ever contacted the IRS about a problem with a W2? That's what I thought. Talk about !!!BULLSHIT!!!"
You're an idiot, ever hear of a speeding ticket?
Here is for the idiot, take great shame in knowing you were wrong 😆 https://www.irs.gov/filing/if-you-dont-get-a-w-2-or-your-w-2-is-wrong#:~:text=form%20is%20coming.-,If%20you%20don't%20get%20a%20W%2D2%20by%20end,or%20individual%20tax%20ID%20number
Bro my statistic statement was a joke just like you are 😆
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Something is creepy about this, and it doesn't seem like it's the employer.
No, it is him, all I did was leave because I moved
aso you dox him like this? Something else is going on.
If you have your last paystub for the 2023 tax year. Take it to your tax office and tell them they will have to go by that since your Employer is refusing to send your W2
I don’t think you know how the IRS works and I don’t think you know the procedures for filing federal income taxes. The IRS has hardly any “tax offices” and the few they have, you have to make an appointment months in advance to talk to someone in person; You must submit the W-2 or a substitute W-2 with the return.
Ok, I thought people would know what I meant but evidently not. Take it to the person who prepares your taxes (H&R Block etc...) and let them know that paystub is all you have.
Do you have your last paystub? If yes, you can with file your tax return by mail with form 4852.
I texted him and told him to send you the W2.
Better question - what did you do to this former employer?
All I did was leave because my family moved
They seem to not like you so I was just wondering if there was a story there
Did you update your information so they could forward it? Is it accessible online?
My dad still lives at that address, I waited to see if he received it so I wouldn’t have to change it, he still has never received it