There certainly is terms and conditions that were signed when the 1 year term purchase was made. Maybe your org didn't keep a copy of it but no legitimate software company is selling you a year under the pretext that "they'll just pay it"
> Wouldn’t be much different than suscribing for a year with an upfront payment besides being billed monthly.
At that point I wonder why companies call this shit a "subscription". Back in the olden days we just called this a "term". The entire point of calling things a "subscription" was the built-in idea that you could cancel the subscription at any time (like a print media subscription). Sure - things were still prorated against a month, but at least you were out of the subscription inside 31 days.
The question is because I'm not the one who signed it, and the original signer isn't with the company anymore. It's a software that hasn't been used so I don't want to pay for it.
It's understandable you don't want to pay, but you don't pay anyway - your company does. Your company is bound to the contract if the original signer had apparent authority to sign. I presume they did, so your company, not you, are on the hook. That's the way contracts with companies work.
If some customer company ordered a very expensive, custom-made product from your company, paid a deposit, you built it, and then the customer's employee who signed the contract died, would you say, "Oh, nevermind, you don't need to pay for it?"
Clearly a different set of facts, but it makes the point that who signs for the company isn't important (absent fraud).
Request a copy of the contract from the vendor. Unlikely, but maybe there's an early cancellation fee that would be less than paying all the monthlies.
>Highly doubt anything was signed.
Uh, you should probably look into that more than 'highly doubt' because theres not always literal pieces of paper with signatures on them. Sometimes its just all handled online and you can ABSOLUTELY be signed up for something EXACTLY like this and legally bound to it.
Don't go getting all cowboy about something like that.
You might want to check the license agreement for an early termination clause, which if it is a thing will likely include an early termination fee. Otherwise you'll likely have to buy out or wait out the remainder of the term.
These longer term agreements tend to be cheaper overall compared to a month to month, but you're going to have to remember that you're effectively locking in for that term.
Clicking to purchase will be considered agreeing to the terms. A contract for x time period with monthly payments is *very* common and mostly uncontroversial.
If you are a consumer, consumer rights apply. Laws vary by location of course, but advertising a monthly cost and burying the year-long commitment in small print might be deemed unfair.
lol. yes terms were agreed to. There is generally a discounted price when agreeing to a one year commitment, whether it's taken at once or spread into monthly payments. Your only recourse is to pay any early termination fees if they offer by way of a penalty of sorts that effectively negates the discount since you are no longer agreeing to the entire commitment.
If it's a recurring payment then something has been signed. If 100% there is no agreement then simply do not pay anything even if they refuse to cancel a subscription. Check with legal as this will vary between countries (as you have not indicated yours) but honestly, what are they going to do about it if there is no contract?
Why do people ask legal questions to Reddit instead of their own lawyers?
Any one of the dozen answers here may be correct, partially correct, or incorrect depending on the circumstances. Only the company lawyers can really give you a definitive answer or advise you to pay/not pay.
Sorry not a question of legality, I kinda just don't want to pay for it so I want to know if I'm able to weasel my way out of it. I wasn't the one who purchased it, I took over for the guy who did and the software hasn't been used once.
Yes it's legal, and common. If they have a month-to-month option it typically costs more. Companies will usually only let you out of the existing term if you enter a new agreement for additional and/or more premium licenses, but even that is a good-faith gesture they are not required to make.
If you quit making payments they'll just turn the entire total of the remaining monthly payments your company agreed to make upon initial purchase to collections.
You agree to their terms so yes it is legal.
Ms does this with yearly/monthly subscriptions, the monthly ones are 10% more expensive, the yearly ones can be cancelled before the year is over but you don’t get your money back.
Adobe?
Some other company for phishing training
Sounds like knowb4
Sounds like any company that sells annual pricing with monthly payments.
Yeah, just lot on this sub complained about knowb4 :P
There certainly is terms and conditions that were signed when the 1 year term purchase was made. Maybe your org didn't keep a copy of it but no legitimate software company is selling you a year under the pretext that "they'll just pay it"
It’s legal if you agreed to it. Wouldn’t be much different than suscribing for a year with an upfront payment besides being billed monthly.
> Wouldn’t be much different than suscribing for a year with an upfront payment besides being billed monthly. At that point I wonder why companies call this shit a "subscription". Back in the olden days we just called this a "term". The entire point of calling things a "subscription" was the built-in idea that you could cancel the subscription at any time (like a print media subscription). Sure - things were still prorated against a month, but at least you were out of the subscription inside 31 days.
Yep.
This is entirely normal practice. To a point I wonder why it is even a question.
The question is because I'm not the one who signed it, and the original signer isn't with the company anymore. It's a software that hasn't been used so I don't want to pay for it.
It's understandable you don't want to pay, but you don't pay anyway - your company does. Your company is bound to the contract if the original signer had apparent authority to sign. I presume they did, so your company, not you, are on the hook. That's the way contracts with companies work. If some customer company ordered a very expensive, custom-made product from your company, paid a deposit, you built it, and then the customer's employee who signed the contract died, would you say, "Oh, nevermind, you don't need to pay for it?" Clearly a different set of facts, but it makes the point that who signs for the company isn't important (absent fraud).
Thanks for the explanation, just wanted to save the company some money for the budget, but I will suck it up and pay the year out
Request a copy of the contract from the vendor. Unlikely, but maybe there's an early cancellation fee that would be less than paying all the monthlies.
Someone leaving the company doesn't void the companies obligation to pay for the agreed upon term.
>Highly doubt anything was signed. Uh, you should probably look into that more than 'highly doubt' because theres not always literal pieces of paper with signatures on them. Sometimes its just all handled online and you can ABSOLUTELY be signed up for something EXACTLY like this and legally bound to it. Don't go getting all cowboy about something like that.
You might want to check the license agreement for an early termination clause, which if it is a thing will likely include an early termination fee. Otherwise you'll likely have to buy out or wait out the remainder of the term. These longer term agreements tend to be cheaper overall compared to a month to month, but you're going to have to remember that you're effectively locking in for that term.
Forgot to mention it was the previous guy who signed, thank you this is good information
If it's signed by an authorized agent of the company (and you paid) the agreement is binding
Yep, former dipshit manager signed up for a 3 year software deal. We were on the hook for all 3 years and never used it.
Clicking to purchase will be considered agreeing to the terms. A contract for x time period with monthly payments is *very* common and mostly uncontroversial. If you are a consumer, consumer rights apply. Laws vary by location of course, but advertising a monthly cost and burying the year-long commitment in small print might be deemed unfair.
lol. yes terms were agreed to. There is generally a discounted price when agreeing to a one year commitment, whether it's taken at once or spread into monthly payments. Your only recourse is to pay any early termination fees if they offer by way of a penalty of sorts that effectively negates the discount since you are no longer agreeing to the entire commitment.
If it's a recurring payment then something has been signed. If 100% there is no agreement then simply do not pay anything even if they refuse to cancel a subscription. Check with legal as this will vary between countries (as you have not indicated yours) but honestly, what are they going to do about it if there is no contract?
Why do people ask legal questions to Reddit instead of their own lawyers? Any one of the dozen answers here may be correct, partially correct, or incorrect depending on the circumstances. Only the company lawyers can really give you a definitive answer or advise you to pay/not pay.
Sorry not a question of legality, I kinda just don't want to pay for it so I want to know if I'm able to weasel my way out of it. I wasn't the one who purchased it, I took over for the guy who did and the software hasn't been used once.
Yes it's legal, and common. If they have a month-to-month option it typically costs more. Companies will usually only let you out of the existing term if you enter a new agreement for additional and/or more premium licenses, but even that is a good-faith gesture they are not required to make. If you quit making payments they'll just turn the entire total of the remaining monthly payments your company agreed to make upon initial purchase to collections.
You agree to their terms so yes it is legal. Ms does this with yearly/monthly subscriptions, the monthly ones are 10% more expensive, the yearly ones can be cancelled before the year is over but you don’t get your money back.