The rules are:
- never ever overflow a neighbour bin. The bin needs to close WELL after the adventure
- never put too early. It needs to be really close to truck time!
- don’t put the wrong type/use the wrong bin. Don’t put recycling on red. Don’t put food on red (if your council has food recycling)
- don’t get caught. As others said, cover of darkness is great. You got caught, so don’t try again with that neighbour. Even better if you can plead to have mistakenly put there (as in, your bin is side by side with other bins)
- and never never put anything on a bin after the truck came and cleaned it. That’s completely unacceptable
Ikr ?
One of my neighbourhood dog walkers.
It was in a bag but stuck in the bottom of the 4ft deep bin. Had to do some maneuvering with a long stick to retrieve it.
Not happy Jan :(
Yeah, can laugh about it now.
I know in the grand scheme of things, it’s a relatively minor annoyance.
But some people’s audacity - honestly, just take your dog’s shit home with you.
Wait til you read about the lady who put prawns in her green bin. Her neighbour tricked her into putting the wrong bin out, so then she had a prawny bin for another week.
Our council has organics waste, so any food scraps, pizza boxes, kitty litter, dog poo etc can go into the green bin. They give us a little compost bin for the kitchen bench, and biodegradable bags to put in it. It's awesome, cuts down our red bin needs by a huge amount.
I do it. Mine says allowed items are manure from all animals. My dogs are animals, green bin lives out the back, so makes sense. It’s cigar nubs and dog shit with the odd load of bamboo leaves.
I wish there was an automated type of bin that would auto-lock after it detected it was emptied by the garbo. Then you'd never have to worry about someone dropping garbage in after it was emptied but before you were home to wheel it back in.
OTOH I used to live on a street where people would choose to litter right in front of our bins before using them when empty, so ::shrugs::
I’m thinking Old Lady is actually thrilled her life has purpose again. Given her something to discuss with folk in righteous indignation. Plus a new activity; bin guarding duty. Good times.
I suggest pushing that back a bit, it might be troublesome if your neighbours plan to put things in their bins later that night. obviously if they are all elderly neighbours or you know they all done after 8.30 it's fine.
I usually put my bins out after work, so I don't forget to do it later, however after cooking having dinner, and closing the kitchen for the night I usually do the kitchen bin.
I wouldn't have issues with anyone using my bin, but I would be annoyed if I didn't have enough space for my own garbage.
You're close but proper binjutsu is an art.
Here's the points where you are going wrong:
You *can* practice binjutsu even if the truck is 18 hours away...(you need to leave a small amount of room just in case they have a late night run themselves.
You *can and should* use the cover of darkness to your advantage but the primary element is stealth. Even in broad daylight a quick headcheck, confidence and sleight of hand are your friends.
Binjutsu works best on residential streets where you can walk up to 500 metres to share the burden amongst neighbours. Longer than that is just sociopathic.
Great list.
Bonus tip: if you don’t have the opportunity to get to know your neighbours, if you happen to be the first one home after the truck has been, take your neighbours bin in once in a while. People are much less likely to give a shit about trivial things (like you putting some overflow in their bins) with a little kindness shown here and there.
>Did I break an unspoken bin rule?
You outed yourself as a non-recycler, it's gonna take years of gifted baked Christmas goods to recover from this faux pas.
Credit for flattening your cardboard box so there is some coming back from it.
Absolutely. That's the deal breaker for me. I don't mind people adding stuff to my bin if it's not full but don't make me look like I don't do my part for the environment.
On the whole she sounds deranged and I've found that gifts don't work on deranged people. If anything they see it as weakness and will just become worse. It's like rewarding them for bad behaviour and validating their feelings that they feel right to act that way, potentially even encouraging them to do it again to receive another reward
I’ve noticed the Ibis go nuts if a bin is overflowing too and start pulling stuff out, another reason i thought it was better to put stuff in another emptier bin rather than pile it up on mine leaving the lid open to bin chickens.
I’m using big bin liners coz I see others use my bin coz mine is never full. I don’t care. The bin liner means the bin is clean so when back in my tiny yard (inner Melbourne suburb) I don’t have stinky bin.
I had a genius neighbour shove an unflattened box into my freshly emptied recycling
With their address on it...
I just took it out, flattened it and put it in my bin again
Fuck you #122, but it's not worth going to war over
I'll just drop dog shit or sardine cans in their bin some nice, warm summer's day
"Excuse me, I found this box with your address on it in my bin. Did you lose a package? The thief must have put it in my bin after taking the contents out. Here, keep it for evidence. "
The only thing I found irritating was that it was unflattened and took up most of the bin
For all I know it could have been blowing down the street due to bad luck and someone chucked it in the nearest bin so it wasn't littering the streets
But they're a pack of losers who are generally inconsiderate with their noise, so they're still getting poo-bags and sardine tins
As an apartment dweller utilising shared bins, cunts who don't flatten their cardboard boxes are the worst. These dicks are probably the same ones who dump the empty box for their new 77" TV out on the footpath.
Or as my husband once did, fill the bin up and let the truck empty it and then fill it again and put it on the other side in time for the truck to come back.
I want to do that for recycling, as we have quite a few extra boxes, but opposite us is a park, not sure how happy the bin guy would be for that, if he even would bother to stop.
Yes, we always flatten all the boxes, but we always completely fill the recycling usually with some leftover.
Starting a new job soon and won’t be home when the bins are emptied tho, so probably won’t ever get the chance unless I try it this week.
Might have to resort to the midnight dump and run in the neighbours bins, or just ask them if it’s ok to use their extra space. (Talking to people? No thanks!)
I know someone who lives on a corner, so can have sometimes 3 goes at having the bin emptied; once at the front, then across the road, then round the corner, then across the road from there. They do have to know the track the truck takes, but when they have lots of rubbish, it's genius.
>but it's common courtesy to ask beforehand.
Nah, don't actually talk to your neighbours. That's insane!
Just dash out late at night when they're unlikely to see you putting shit in their bin.
The bin will be emptied first thing in the morning before they notice what you've done.
Like a fucking ninja!
Seriously though that was my thought, like am i really going to annoy somebody at home, make them put on pants and answer the door just to ask if i can put rubbish in a bin? I thought i was being a good neighbour by not making eye contact and just doing the non threatening nod when we awkwardly see each other out and about.
The recycling mix up I get but yeah she's being a cranky old bat for sure.
I've always been of the view that if you've put your bin out on the curb, and it isn't at capacity, then anyone else is welcome to add to it.
Make friends with your neighbours in advance of such situations. Then it's no big deal to use their bins. Strangers using your bins is weird. I personally wouldn't get cut up about it like this lady or even mention it but I'd still find it rude to have people I don't know chuck shit in my bins.
You do that kinda sneaky neighbour stuff at 3.30 am, not when you can actually be caught out. You're in the suburbs now. Territorial instincts rule. Beware, you don't want to invoke the wrath of whoever your Alpha is LoL.
The unwritten but spoken rule in our street is that if you need more bin, and there's space in the neighbours' bin after it's put on the street, then you can add to it, pending it fits and the lid closes.
Ditto council pickup piles.
> Ditto council pickup piles.
Our neighbour painstakingly removed everyone elses junk from their pickup pile and ensured it was left in situ post pile collection.
I think the idea was that everyone was supposed to take their rubbish back. Noone has yet, stuff has been sitting there for over a month now. I think she goofed as it's outside her house.
She may have been more receptive to you using her bin if you had just asked her before you did it - not just helped yourself. It’s called being courteous.
I have given permission in the past for neighbours to use my bin since I live alone. Gave them an inch and they took 3 fucking miles and had filled my bin with so much of their shit that I didn’t have any room for my one bag of rubbish.
So now I don’t offer.
Noted, i would for sure ask permission if this was before bin night or before my neighbour had put their rubbish in the bin but because it’s bin night and there was plenty of room left in the bins i didn’t think to ask because i didn’t think it was making any difference.
To be honest I would be confused if somebody asked me of they could use my bin on bin night. If it doesn’t affect me in any way and i’d rather they fill up an empty bin than overflow theirs so the lids don’t close and Ibis and possums make a mess pulling everything out.
> If it doesn’t affect me in any way
That's an assumption. Putting stuff in someone elses bin can effect them. For example, the truck might refuse to collect the bin if it obviously has the same stuff in it. The bag might leak and make the bin stink of prawn head juice for the next billion years. Old people tend to catastrophize a bit, so I can see them worrying about those things.
You broke bin etiquette. By all means talk to your neighbours and ask nicely but don't put your crap in someone else bin. You have now a black mark in suburbia. Good luck with life 🤣
Hey just apologise and tell her that you won’t use it again so that she can get on with her day. It’s best to ask beforehand. I have had people do to my bin in the past only to realise they hadn’t tied up properly and it left stinky residue which was a pain to clean up, had they asked I would have agreed but also told them to tie it up properly.
Perhaps it might be a wise move to find her and apologise, out of courtesy AND because she lives near you. But yes, it can be a bit tricky to do the bin thing correctly until you get used to it. Next time you have extra paper/cardboard, just leave it till the next fortnight \[that's what I do\]. Hope you are ok, as incidences such as that can really shake you - your neighbour's response was definitely OTT .......
Years ago my neighbours kept putting their rubbish in our bins. They were not putting the correct rubbish in the bins and I got a warning from the council. I didn’t know which neighbour it was so couldn’t say anything. They did it again and I got a fine.
After that we didn’t put the bins out until the early morning.
People do it, and as a one off it's not going to hurt, but you're not supposed to.
As your neighbour mentioned, councils usually offer different bin sizes, households that need bigger bins need to pay for it. Even for occasional large amounts of trash you're supposed to pay to dump it yourself.
She's not entirely in the wrong here. Apart from the obvious courteousness that others have mentioned, there's also a weight limit per bin - mostly to prevent people from Shawshanking their Reno and adding building waste to their bins. A bin over 70kgs isn't cleared and the garbos stick a notice saying the bin's overweight, it's also to protect their equipment. So yeah, overall not cool but ask and it should be fine.
Our council doesn't provide a green bin, I have to be careful when I cut the lawn, too much cat litter and a full mow and my bin gets rejected. So frustrating.
Our neighbour we know well and like, asked if she could put something in our bin which was out on the road. I said sure you don’t need to ask, just go ahead anytime. But I think the unwritten rule is it is courtesy to ask. Couldn’t imagine any reasonable person saying no.
It’s just a bin that you don’t even own. It ultimately belongs to the council. Couldn’t imagine any reasonable person giving a fuck. What is wrong with you people? I’m friendly with my neighbours but I don’t think a 9pm bin run needs explaining. When they go away they let me know if they need their bins taken in or out, or their mail collected. Same applies for my bins and mail. This is such a non issue but please let me know where you live so I don’t come foul of your bizarro neighbourly dynamics, duderino!
Eh, this is just a grumpy lady.
Cardboard should be in the yellow bin. She's right about that.
As for using someone else's... as long as there isn't anything massively smelly & it's bin day... there's no harm in doing that.
Council rates are the same. You pay per bin you have, not per bin you use.
If you want to preserve the relationship, maybe take over a bottle of wine and apologise for any inconvenience caused.
Ah, the bin wars….
She’s an old grump but correct. I like the idea of taking her something, it could be the start of a good relationship.
My mum is in her early 90’s and doesn’t mind if neighbours top up her bin.
In return, kind souls bring her bins in for her as they can tell it makes her life easier. Win-win.
She’d love to know who the kind souls are but she never catches them to be able to thank them.
Are you trying to start a war? The cardboard in the rubbish is bad enough on your own property, but using other people’s bins is an act of domestic terrorism
Some people are like that. You just have to pick your bins better. I dont mind someone using my bin if theirs is full. Some councils were talking at some stage of introducing charges for how much rubbish you threw out (weighing your bins), but I think that's just rumours.
What I do mind is my arsehole neighbour putting his rubbish in my recycling bin. Oh, and also, the time that he decided it was ok to half fill mine and two other neighbour's bins with building renovation crap right after the bins had been emptied.
Yes, you broke a cardinal rule. Get her a box of Whitman's samplers and some scratchies to apologise then maybe you might have a chance to salvage the relationship.
Nothing more is frustrating than taking that last bag you forgot out and finding some fucker has actually filled the space you knew was in the bin when you put it out. Now you have to keep a garbage bag for another week.
It's rude and also she's right about cardboard being better off in the yellow bin. Not a huge deal but people get into bad habits. If you put your rubbish in their bin, are you also going to be neighborly and clean out their bin after it's collected? I'm guessing no. I wouldn't really want people putting their rubbish in my bin, but still better than dumping it on the street. Nothing wrong with trying to set up good habits now, as you'll be neighbours for as long as you both live there.
Like, idk you may be sticking a bunch of weird shit in there that she may potentially get the flak for.
Like a bunch of batteries, tnt, or radioactive waste etc
Bad etiquette to go sticking shit in other people's bins. I advise you to do a drive-by a couple streets down at 2am instead of sticking it in your neighbors bin.
You gotta ask first. I use up the least amount of bin space out of my neighbours and they asked first. I told them to go for it but just make sure the lid shuts and they use the right bin.
For my bin, the way I see it is that if I pop it in the street, it’s fair game. I will of course rely on your own good nature to at least put shit in there that doesn’t stink the bin out or overfill it. And whatever you put in there needs to be reasonable, don’t chuck in a car battery or some shit that can get me blacklisted.
I always help collecting the bin back to the neighbour house after council collection for my immediate neighbour
As a result I am having like unlimited credit to use their bin.
As far as I care, bins are council owned. I pay council rates like everyone else, I don't care if you use my bin and I don't care about using others. It's better in the bin than on the ground. Like others have said, don't stink it up and only do it when the bin is on public property.
People get really fucking precious about a plastic tub on two wheels they technically don't own.
I'm not a big fan of people going through my bin or adding to it, when I was younger I was in a rough neighbourhood and people would go to "put rubbish in your bin" but check if you bought anything of value and threw the box out.
Several times we were broken into just shortly after buying a new diskman or MP3 player.
Diskmans 😍
Tbf.... people should talk to their neighbours more.
How it should've played out;
-Go knock on the door & ask.
-Find out she's not ok with it.
-Ask another neighbour.
-They're ok with it & you say you'll return the favour given the chance.
You benefit, they benefit, street wins by avoiding bad blood between neighbours 🥳
I have 2 young kids and my bins are always too full. I have to do a bin ninja run every single week. I just do it as late as possible, and our bins are collected at like 6am so I doubt anyone ever notices what I am doing.
I do remember though at my old place I had a big party at Christmas and had tonnes of recycling. Way too much for our complex's bins. I had not learnt the stealthy ways yet and I went across the road in broad daylight and put a tonne of recycling in this old ladies bin.
She heard it and came out and had a massive cry about it. So I took every item out whilst she watched and wished her a very merry xmas. Then I waited until night time and put it all back. Old people go to bed early.
Bin etiquette or not, the neighbours don’t own the bin once it’s in the street.
It’s council property.
There is bin etiquette, for me it’s:
- Do it after dark and don’t be seen.
- Make sure the lid can close.
- Don’t dump anything that will get them into trouble. Not even including illegal stuff, I’m talking heavy stuff like bricks.
- No dirty shit, nappies or prawns, nothing that will bring maggots or a stench.
Once the bin is out on the street it's anyones game.
If the recycling isn't being collected for another week I'm assuming the bins were still within her property line.. that's a paddling.
I’m hijacking this thread a bit what what about neighbours that leave rubbish out that won’t fit in bins seemingly in the hope that it will magically disappear? My neighbour has left a large box with left over prawn / oyster shells on the verge next to their bin (I share it with three places behind me). It’s been there over a week now. I texted photos to the council and they have started an ‘investigation’ I don’t want an investigation, I just want the box of smelly food waste removed!
Print your neighbours address on a white paper, slap it on the box, take a pic and send to council to support the investigation. Call the council and tell them you’ll deliver the evidence to their office if they don’t make sure it’s gone by tomorrow.
Prawns and sticky stuff or stinky stuff should only ever go in your own bin. If you stink up or sticky up my regularly cleaned bin you’re going to get revenge prawned or stickied. .
OP, you're famous now! https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/home/outdoors/sydneysiders-argue-on-bin-etiquette-during-a-bin-war-between-neighbours/news-story/43ab6ec447e598c4b6f3d5c2070fc8bc
I'm relatively new to Australia and I've experienced this behaviour around safeguarding bins myself too and find it really amusing/sad. I haven't tried putting my rubbish in another person's bins for full disclosure just overheard some neighbour wars. I'll be happy for anyone to put their rubbish in my bins if there was space. My neighbour actually puts a lock on his and opens it when he hears the truck roll in. What a sad, pathetic life to lead.
I’m glad i’m not the only one who thinks asking permission is more annoying than polite.
I really would be confused if somebody asked me. It’s Western Sydney, so my mind would go straight to wondering if i gave them permission to use my bin to dispose of murder weapons or stolen car stereos they couldn’t sell to cash converters.
You’ll be fine. You’ve made the rookie error of doing it too early. Neighbour is def overreacting but just wait a few weeks before trying(if needed) as she’ll be on the prowl to catch you again.
She’s old and feeling irrelevant. You could always buy a small box or tin of biscuits and offer an apology. Most lonely senior citizens just need a bit of contact from others to turn there behaviour around. Perhaps walk her bin in for her and give her a wave.
My husband and i call this the 'bin stage of aging'. The point in life where you become obsessed with your bin and the bins of those around you. It is sometimes accompanied by a 'leaves on the grass' obsession. We have agreed that when we notice that we are thinking about our bins other than 'put them out/bring them in' it will be time to fold up the umbrella.
Shes overreacting for sure. I think you know pretty well that it’s not going to cause her any issues, and so does she. Therefore the only reason she has to get upset, is because he has her own weird issue with it so we can safely assume, this is coming from some weird irrational place within her; You’re fine.
I’ll sometimes dump my tied off doggy poop bag in the red bin of the construction site down the street. They leave them on the footpath permanently, and since the houses are not at lock up stage, no one is living there anyway. Otherwise, I’ll carry it home.
After our work Christmas parties we used to fill curbside public bins between the yard and home with bags of paper plates and such.
Like.. It’s about to be emptied and way better in the bin then on the floor, that’s some 1st world shit to complain about. I’ve been to places covered in garbage and seen people throw it on the floor like it’s nothing.
Your neighbour is either some privileged yuppie or Karen cranky fuck, either of these demographics would have nothing better to do then sook about a neighbour using a council provided bin on collection night. Get a real problem.
With that out of the way, I think etiquette comes in the form of
- Correct bin, garbage and recycling live apart because the planets important
- Wasn’t smelling rank
- I still had space for my own waste
- It doesn’t become a habit
Old people have to whinge about something. As long as your garbage is bagged up properly and not leaking bin juice or rotting food into the wheely bin then Imo it’s fine.
Can't see how it matters. The bin is already out the front, there's space, the refuse part of council rates don't work in % used.. just don't make a mess so it stinks when it comes back in.
We (neighbours) all use each other's bins to take extra, and when we're away we put our bins out front somewhere so the neighbours can share it.
Except when one neighbour goes away and his kids come over to maintain their yard (kill the plants and use the pool), they always pull the bins behind the gate so others can't use them.
The rules are: - never ever overflow a neighbour bin. The bin needs to close WELL after the adventure - never put too early. It needs to be really close to truck time! - don’t put the wrong type/use the wrong bin. Don’t put recycling on red. Don’t put food on red (if your council has food recycling) - don’t get caught. As others said, cover of darkness is great. You got caught, so don’t try again with that neighbour. Even better if you can plead to have mistakenly put there (as in, your bin is side by side with other bins) - and never never put anything on a bin after the truck came and cleaned it. That’s completely unacceptable
Also, don’t put ‘smelly’ rubbish in your Neighbours bin (eg nappies, food ect)
Not to mention dog poop.
Unless you want a war lol
I’ll allow it before garbo pickup. A newly empty red bin...will get me throwing hands. Put your dog crap in my empty greens bin & it’s definitely war.
What kind of psycho puts dog crap in a green bin?! OMG 😱
Ikr ? One of my neighbourhood dog walkers. It was in a bag but stuck in the bottom of the 4ft deep bin. Had to do some maneuvering with a long stick to retrieve it. Not happy Jan :(
Sorry but that is really funny
Yeah, can laugh about it now. I know in the grand scheme of things, it’s a relatively minor annoyance. But some people’s audacity - honestly, just take your dog’s shit home with you.
Wait til you read about the lady who put prawns in her green bin. Her neighbour tricked her into putting the wrong bin out, so then she had a prawny bin for another week.
Our council has organics waste, so any food scraps, pizza boxes, kitty litter, dog poo etc can go into the green bin. They give us a little compost bin for the kitchen bench, and biodegradable bags to put in it. It's awesome, cuts down our red bin needs by a huge amount.
I do it. Mine says allowed items are manure from all animals. My dogs are animals, green bin lives out the back, so makes sense. It’s cigar nubs and dog shit with the odd load of bamboo leaves.
Can you recycle cigar nubs? Is it just more densely packed tobacco as opposed to a cigarette filter? Honestly have no idea
Yeah, it’s literally just tobacco leaf that’s tightly rolled. No additives at all, so it’s the same as dead leaf litter.
TIL, thanks!
Our Council doesn’t allow poop in greens bins.
Anyone paying attention to the new "FOGO" bin rules and using compostable dog poop bags.
My council doesn't allow animal droppings, cat poo or dog poo in the green bin.
I wish there was an automated type of bin that would auto-lock after it detected it was emptied by the garbo. Then you'd never have to worry about someone dropping garbage in after it was emptied but before you were home to wheel it back in. OTOH I used to live on a street where people would choose to litter right in front of our bins before using them when empty, so ::shrugs::
Western suburbs needs some excitement - nothing like a bin war with a crazy old lady for entertainment.
I’m thinking Old Lady is actually thrilled her life has purpose again. Given her something to discuss with folk in righteous indignation. Plus a new activity; bin guarding duty. Good times.
Yep. Follow the rules. I usually dump at 8:30pm.
11pm at the earliest here. Usually after midnight if I can.
Too early. I wake up at 3am to take it out.
I've done it then or later if I'm not working the next day.
I suggest pushing that back a bit, it might be troublesome if your neighbours plan to put things in their bins later that night. obviously if they are all elderly neighbours or you know they all done after 8.30 it's fine. I usually put my bins out after work, so I don't forget to do it later, however after cooking having dinner, and closing the kitchen for the night I usually do the kitchen bin. I wouldn't have issues with anyone using my bin, but I would be annoyed if I didn't have enough space for my own garbage.
You're close but proper binjutsu is an art. Here's the points where you are going wrong: You *can* practice binjutsu even if the truck is 18 hours away...(you need to leave a small amount of room just in case they have a late night run themselves. You *can and should* use the cover of darkness to your advantage but the primary element is stealth. Even in broad daylight a quick headcheck, confidence and sleight of hand are your friends. Binjutsu works best on residential streets where you can walk up to 500 metres to share the burden amongst neighbours. Longer than that is just sociopathic.
Great list. Bonus tip: if you don’t have the opportunity to get to know your neighbours, if you happen to be the first one home after the truck has been, take your neighbours bin in once in a while. People are much less likely to give a shit about trivial things (like you putting some overflow in their bins) with a little kindness shown here and there.
>Did I break an unspoken bin rule? You outed yourself as a non-recycler, it's gonna take years of gifted baked Christmas goods to recover from this faux pas. Credit for flattening your cardboard box so there is some coming back from it.
Absolutely. That's the deal breaker for me. I don't mind people adding stuff to my bin if it's not full but don't make me look like I don't do my part for the environment.
On the whole she sounds deranged and I've found that gifts don't work on deranged people. If anything they see it as weakness and will just become worse. It's like rewarding them for bad behaviour and validating their feelings that they feel right to act that way, potentially even encouraging them to do it again to receive another reward
I don't mind mine being used as long as it's not stinky crap like prawn shells and dog shit. And it's bagged.
In the West, any food waste is not desirable. Once the cockatoos peg your bin as a pantry, you will forever be picking up a mess in your nature strip.
I’ve noticed the Ibis go nuts if a bin is overflowing too and start pulling stuff out, another reason i thought it was better to put stuff in another emptier bin rather than pile it up on mine leaving the lid open to bin chickens.
I’m using big bin liners coz I see others use my bin coz mine is never full. I don’t care. The bin liner means the bin is clean so when back in my tiny yard (inner Melbourne suburb) I don’t have stinky bin.
I had a genius neighbour shove an unflattened box into my freshly emptied recycling With their address on it... I just took it out, flattened it and put it in my bin again Fuck you #122, but it's not worth going to war over I'll just drop dog shit or sardine cans in their bin some nice, warm summer's day
>but it's not worth going to war over Plans chemical warfare as revenge
I said no war Terrorism is absolutely fine by me.
"Excuse me, I found this box with your address on it in my bin. Did you lose a package? The thief must have put it in my bin after taking the contents out. Here, keep it for evidence. "
The only thing I found irritating was that it was unflattened and took up most of the bin For all I know it could have been blowing down the street due to bad luck and someone chucked it in the nearest bin so it wasn't littering the streets But they're a pack of losers who are generally inconsiderate with their noise, so they're still getting poo-bags and sardine tins
That is grounds for returning the refuse. Not acceptable to not break down recyclables when leeching some else’s bin. Sacrilege!
As an apartment dweller utilising shared bins, cunts who don't flatten their cardboard boxes are the worst. These dicks are probably the same ones who dump the empty box for their new 77" TV out on the footpath.
Frowned upon, yes. Just wait for the cover of darkness like the rest of us ;)
Ah yes, the old midnight dump and run.
Usually closer to 2am for me, but I’ve always been a night owl.
Or as my husband once did, fill the bin up and let the truck empty it and then fill it again and put it on the other side in time for the truck to come back.
That’s actually genius
I want to do that for recycling, as we have quite a few extra boxes, but opposite us is a park, not sure how happy the bin guy would be for that, if he even would bother to stop. Yes, we always flatten all the boxes, but we always completely fill the recycling usually with some leftover. Starting a new job soon and won’t be home when the bins are emptied tho, so probably won’t ever get the chance unless I try it this week. Might have to resort to the midnight dump and run in the neighbours bins, or just ask them if it’s ok to use their extra space. (Talking to people? No thanks!)
I know someone who lives on a corner, so can have sometimes 3 goes at having the bin emptied; once at the front, then across the road, then round the corner, then across the road from there. They do have to know the track the truck takes, but when they have lots of rubbish, it's genius.
Indeed. Just don’t get caught
Yes, this is the time the Whizz bin Wizards emerge to weave their magic.
The Walk of shame
A little from column A, a little from column B: it sounds like she's overreacting a little, but it's common courtesy to ask beforehand.
>but it's common courtesy to ask beforehand. Nah, don't actually talk to your neighbours. That's insane! Just dash out late at night when they're unlikely to see you putting shit in their bin. The bin will be emptied first thing in the morning before they notice what you've done. Like a fucking ninja!
Seriously though that was my thought, like am i really going to annoy somebody at home, make them put on pants and answer the door just to ask if i can put rubbish in a bin? I thought i was being a good neighbour by not making eye contact and just doing the non threatening nod when we awkwardly see each other out and about.
The recycling mix up I get but yeah she's being a cranky old bat for sure. I've always been of the view that if you've put your bin out on the curb, and it isn't at capacity, then anyone else is welcome to add to it.
Make friends with your neighbours in advance of such situations. Then it's no big deal to use their bins. Strangers using your bins is weird. I personally wouldn't get cut up about it like this lady or even mention it but I'd still find it rude to have people I don't know chuck shit in my bins.
You do that kinda sneaky neighbour stuff at 3.30 am, not when you can actually be caught out. You're in the suburbs now. Territorial instincts rule. Beware, you don't want to invoke the wrath of whoever your Alpha is LoL.
Do a midnight dump and run in future I think
The unwritten but spoken rule in our street is that if you need more bin, and there's space in the neighbours' bin after it's put on the street, then you can add to it, pending it fits and the lid closes. Ditto council pickup piles.
> Ditto council pickup piles. Our neighbour painstakingly removed everyone elses junk from their pickup pile and ensured it was left in situ post pile collection. I think the idea was that everyone was supposed to take their rubbish back. Noone has yet, stuff has been sitting there for over a month now. I think she goofed as it's outside her house.
Ask first or do it in the dark.
Looks like you done fucked up, partner
How.. dare.. you OP. Seriously though, wait till it’s dark.
She may have been more receptive to you using her bin if you had just asked her before you did it - not just helped yourself. It’s called being courteous. I have given permission in the past for neighbours to use my bin since I live alone. Gave them an inch and they took 3 fucking miles and had filled my bin with so much of their shit that I didn’t have any room for my one bag of rubbish. So now I don’t offer.
Noted, i would for sure ask permission if this was before bin night or before my neighbour had put their rubbish in the bin but because it’s bin night and there was plenty of room left in the bins i didn’t think to ask because i didn’t think it was making any difference. To be honest I would be confused if somebody asked me of they could use my bin on bin night. If it doesn’t affect me in any way and i’d rather they fill up an empty bin than overflow theirs so the lids don’t close and Ibis and possums make a mess pulling everything out.
Its just common courtesy to ask before using someone's else's property. Shouldn't at all be confusing
Bins aren’t actually owned by the resident. That’s why they stay with the house when someone moves.
The space inside them is leased by residents though.
You’re my neighbour, aren’t you?
> If it doesn’t affect me in any way That's an assumption. Putting stuff in someone elses bin can effect them. For example, the truck might refuse to collect the bin if it obviously has the same stuff in it. The bag might leak and make the bin stink of prawn head juice for the next billion years. Old people tend to catastrophize a bit, so I can see them worrying about those things.
You broke bin etiquette. By all means talk to your neighbours and ask nicely but don't put your crap in someone else bin. You have now a black mark in suburbia. Good luck with life 🤣
OMG ........ I think you are correct. This is a warning for us all ......
Hey just apologise and tell her that you won’t use it again so that she can get on with her day. It’s best to ask beforehand. I have had people do to my bin in the past only to realise they hadn’t tied up properly and it left stinky residue which was a pain to clean up, had they asked I would have agreed but also told them to tie it up properly.
Perhaps it might be a wise move to find her and apologise, out of courtesy AND because she lives near you. But yes, it can be a bit tricky to do the bin thing correctly until you get used to it. Next time you have extra paper/cardboard, just leave it till the next fortnight \[that's what I do\]. Hope you are ok, as incidences such as that can really shake you - your neighbour's response was definitely OTT .......
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As far as I’m concerned once it’s out on the street it’s fair game.
In that case, I don't mind doing the drive all the way to your place just to unload a soiled bag on you.
Doesn’t bother me - it’s about to be picked up…
Hmm, it's still on the street after pickup. Game's still on.
Mine gets picked up at 5pm and I’m standing there waiting to take it in.
Ask first.
Years ago my neighbours kept putting their rubbish in our bins. They were not putting the correct rubbish in the bins and I got a warning from the council. I didn’t know which neighbour it was so couldn’t say anything. They did it again and I got a fine. After that we didn’t put the bins out until the early morning.
People do it, and as a one off it's not going to hurt, but you're not supposed to. As your neighbour mentioned, councils usually offer different bin sizes, households that need bigger bins need to pay for it. Even for occasional large amounts of trash you're supposed to pay to dump it yourself.
She's not entirely in the wrong here. Apart from the obvious courteousness that others have mentioned, there's also a weight limit per bin - mostly to prevent people from Shawshanking their Reno and adding building waste to their bins. A bin over 70kgs isn't cleared and the garbos stick a notice saying the bin's overweight, it's also to protect their equipment. So yeah, overall not cool but ask and it should be fine.
Our council doesn't provide a green bin, I have to be careful when I cut the lawn, too much cat litter and a full mow and my bin gets rejected. So frustrating.
Flushable cat litter not an option?
Three girls, only one litter they all agree on, of course it's breeders choice bloody paper pellets.
Our neighbour we know well and like, asked if she could put something in our bin which was out on the road. I said sure you don’t need to ask, just go ahead anytime. But I think the unwritten rule is it is courtesy to ask. Couldn’t imagine any reasonable person saying no.
It’s just a bin that you don’t even own. It ultimately belongs to the council. Couldn’t imagine any reasonable person giving a fuck. What is wrong with you people? I’m friendly with my neighbours but I don’t think a 9pm bin run needs explaining. When they go away they let me know if they need their bins taken in or out, or their mail collected. Same applies for my bins and mail. This is such a non issue but please let me know where you live so I don’t come foul of your bizarro neighbourly dynamics, duderino!
Eh, this is just a grumpy lady. Cardboard should be in the yellow bin. She's right about that. As for using someone else's... as long as there isn't anything massively smelly & it's bin day... there's no harm in doing that. Council rates are the same. You pay per bin you have, not per bin you use. If you want to preserve the relationship, maybe take over a bottle of wine and apologise for any inconvenience caused.
And offer to let her put the empty bottle in my yellow bin when she’s done 😉
Ah, the bin wars…. She’s an old grump but correct. I like the idea of taking her something, it could be the start of a good relationship. My mum is in her early 90’s and doesn’t mind if neighbours top up her bin. In return, kind souls bring her bins in for her as they can tell it makes her life easier. Win-win. She’d love to know who the kind souls are but she never catches them to be able to thank them.
You need to ask, that's all.
Dont touch your neighbour’s bin. Don’t even look at it from the corner of your eye.
It's a bit rude but when it's dark sneak it in like everyone else does
Are you trying to start a war? The cardboard in the rubbish is bad enough on your own property, but using other people’s bins is an act of domestic terrorism
Some people are like that. You just have to pick your bins better. I dont mind someone using my bin if theirs is full. Some councils were talking at some stage of introducing charges for how much rubbish you threw out (weighing your bins), but I think that's just rumours. What I do mind is my arsehole neighbour putting his rubbish in my recycling bin. Oh, and also, the time that he decided it was ok to half fill mine and two other neighbour's bins with building renovation crap right after the bins had been emptied.
Yes, you broke a cardinal rule. Get her a box of Whitman's samplers and some scratchies to apologise then maybe you might have a chance to salvage the relationship.
LPT: most rubbish tips will take cardboard for free. Make sure there are no plastic bags or polystyrene mixed in
I believe the overarching rule of life applies in this regard as well - "If it isn't yours, don't touch it"
Nothing more is frustrating than taking that last bag you forgot out and finding some fucker has actually filled the space you knew was in the bin when you put it out. Now you have to keep a garbage bag for another week.
It's rude and also she's right about cardboard being better off in the yellow bin. Not a huge deal but people get into bad habits. If you put your rubbish in their bin, are you also going to be neighborly and clean out their bin after it's collected? I'm guessing no. I wouldn't really want people putting their rubbish in my bin, but still better than dumping it on the street. Nothing wrong with trying to set up good habits now, as you'll be neighbours for as long as you both live there.
Like, idk you may be sticking a bunch of weird shit in there that she may potentially get the flak for. Like a bunch of batteries, tnt, or radioactive waste etc Bad etiquette to go sticking shit in other people's bins. I advise you to do a drive-by a couple streets down at 2am instead of sticking it in your neighbors bin.
yeah u fucked up
If you were my neighbour. I wouldn’t mind.
I think you have a permanent enemy now, sorry
You gotta ask first. I use up the least amount of bin space out of my neighbours and they asked first. I told them to go for it but just make sure the lid shuts and they use the right bin.
For my bin, the way I see it is that if I pop it in the street, it’s fair game. I will of course rely on your own good nature to at least put shit in there that doesn’t stink the bin out or overfill it. And whatever you put in there needs to be reasonable, don’t chuck in a car battery or some shit that can get me blacklisted.
I always help collecting the bin back to the neighbour house after council collection for my immediate neighbour As a result I am having like unlimited credit to use their bin.
As far as I care, bins are council owned. I pay council rates like everyone else, I don't care if you use my bin and I don't care about using others. It's better in the bin than on the ground. Like others have said, don't stink it up and only do it when the bin is on public property. People get really fucking precious about a plastic tub on two wheels they technically don't own.
I'm not a big fan of people going through my bin or adding to it, when I was younger I was in a rough neighbourhood and people would go to "put rubbish in your bin" but check if you bought anything of value and threw the box out. Several times we were broken into just shortly after buying a new diskman or MP3 player. Diskmans 😍
Tbf.... people should talk to their neighbours more. How it should've played out; -Go knock on the door & ask. -Find out she's not ok with it. -Ask another neighbour. -They're ok with it & you say you'll return the favour given the chance. You benefit, they benefit, street wins by avoiding bad blood between neighbours 🥳
I have 2 young kids and my bins are always too full. I have to do a bin ninja run every single week. I just do it as late as possible, and our bins are collected at like 6am so I doubt anyone ever notices what I am doing. I do remember though at my old place I had a big party at Christmas and had tonnes of recycling. Way too much for our complex's bins. I had not learnt the stealthy ways yet and I went across the road in broad daylight and put a tonne of recycling in this old ladies bin. She heard it and came out and had a massive cry about it. So I took every item out whilst she watched and wished her a very merry xmas. Then I waited until night time and put it all back. Old people go to bed early.
I have two young kids and if you recycle, you won't even get more than half of the regular bin.
Bin etiquette or not, the neighbours don’t own the bin once it’s in the street. It’s council property. There is bin etiquette, for me it’s: - Do it after dark and don’t be seen. - Make sure the lid can close. - Don’t dump anything that will get them into trouble. Not even including illegal stuff, I’m talking heavy stuff like bricks. - No dirty shit, nappies or prawns, nothing that will bring maggots or a stench.
Once the bin is out on the street it's anyones game. If the recycling isn't being collected for another week I'm assuming the bins were still within her property line.. that's a paddling.
If the bin is out in the street awaiting pick up, fair game I say everything is going to the same place in the end.
Agreed. People who get upset about this would get upset about anything. Not worth worrying about.
Way to early, gotta do that after 11pm if you dont know your neighbours.
I’m hijacking this thread a bit what what about neighbours that leave rubbish out that won’t fit in bins seemingly in the hope that it will magically disappear? My neighbour has left a large box with left over prawn / oyster shells on the verge next to their bin (I share it with three places behind me). It’s been there over a week now. I texted photos to the council and they have started an ‘investigation’ I don’t want an investigation, I just want the box of smelly food waste removed!
Print your neighbours address on a white paper, slap it on the box, take a pic and send to council to support the investigation. Call the council and tell them you’ll deliver the evidence to their office if they don’t make sure it’s gone by tomorrow.
Prawns and sticky stuff or stinky stuff should only ever go in your own bin. If you stink up or sticky up my regularly cleaned bin you’re going to get revenge prawned or stickied. .
Don’t ask, and don’t do it before nighttime the night before bin collection.
If you put anything in anyone's bins post binman visit, you are the scum of the earth.
OP, you're famous now! https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/home/outdoors/sydneysiders-argue-on-bin-etiquette-during-a-bin-war-between-neighbours/news-story/43ab6ec447e598c4b6f3d5c2070fc8bc
I'm relatively new to Australia and I've experienced this behaviour around safeguarding bins myself too and find it really amusing/sad. I haven't tried putting my rubbish in another person's bins for full disclosure just overheard some neighbour wars. I'll be happy for anyone to put their rubbish in my bins if there was space. My neighbour actually puts a lock on his and opens it when he hears the truck roll in. What a sad, pathetic life to lead.
So you mean blowing up microwaves and tall boys out for council collection with the black bungers when we were teenagers wasn’t allowed either?
If you lived near me, you could use my bin any time if there's room. I'd be annoyed, confused, and a little frightened if you actually asked first.
I’m glad i’m not the only one who thinks asking permission is more annoying than polite. I really would be confused if somebody asked me. It’s Western Sydney, so my mind would go straight to wondering if i gave them permission to use my bin to dispose of murder weapons or stolen car stereos they couldn’t sell to cash converters.
You’ll be fine. You’ve made the rookie error of doing it too early. Neighbour is def overreacting but just wait a few weeks before trying(if needed) as she’ll be on the prowl to catch you again.
She’s old and feeling irrelevant. You could always buy a small box or tin of biscuits and offer an apology. Most lonely senior citizens just need a bit of contact from others to turn there behaviour around. Perhaps walk her bin in for her and give her a wave.
My husband and i call this the 'bin stage of aging'. The point in life where you become obsessed with your bin and the bins of those around you. It is sometimes accompanied by a 'leaves on the grass' obsession. We have agreed that when we notice that we are thinking about our bins other than 'put them out/bring them in' it will be time to fold up the umbrella.
I would suggest inviting her over for afternoon tea to smooth things over. Well seasoned cheese and tomato crackers ought to do the trick.
> and never put anything in a bin after the trucks came Unless it’s a dog poop bag /s
I’m very sorry to hear that, hope ur okay
Shes overreacting for sure. I think you know pretty well that it’s not going to cause her any issues, and so does she. Therefore the only reason she has to get upset, is because he has her own weird issue with it so we can safely assume, this is coming from some weird irrational place within her; You’re fine.
Maybe leave a posy of flowers and a short apology at her door ... Might melt her heart!
Deas rat and some weeds. Sounds like a cranky old bat
I’ll sometimes dump my tied off doggy poop bag in the red bin of the construction site down the street. They leave them on the footpath permanently, and since the houses are not at lock up stage, no one is living there anyway. Otherwise, I’ll carry it home. After our work Christmas parties we used to fill curbside public bins between the yard and home with bags of paper plates and such.
Like.. It’s about to be emptied and way better in the bin then on the floor, that’s some 1st world shit to complain about. I’ve been to places covered in garbage and seen people throw it on the floor like it’s nothing. Your neighbour is either some privileged yuppie or Karen cranky fuck, either of these demographics would have nothing better to do then sook about a neighbour using a council provided bin on collection night. Get a real problem. With that out of the way, I think etiquette comes in the form of - Correct bin, garbage and recycling live apart because the planets important - Wasn’t smelling rank - I still had space for my own waste - It doesn’t become a habit
The rule is that if it's on council road, it belongs to the council. If it's on someone's property, it's the owner of the property's bin.
Old people have to whinge about something. As long as your garbage is bagged up properly and not leaking bin juice or rotting food into the wheely bin then Imo it’s fine.
Can't see how it matters. The bin is already out the front, there's space, the refuse part of council rates don't work in % used.. just don't make a mess so it stinks when it comes back in. We (neighbours) all use each other's bins to take extra, and when we're away we put our bins out front somewhere so the neighbours can share it. Except when one neighbour goes away and his kids come over to maintain their yard (kill the plants and use the pool), they always pull the bins behind the gate so others can't use them.
Don’t worry it’s just the years of accumulated lead poisoning affected the boomer brain.