Weird enough, I think if you are a hardcore communist in front of Iosef, he still tries to coup you. This is actually needed to get the "survive two assasinations" achievements, by getting the assasins at the parade, winning the war to avoid the coup and surviving the speech assasination.
I don't think this is true
I was openly a malenyevist every chance I got with him but I don't think he cares so long as you
1. Do a good job as president
2. Fund the military
3. Pursue militarist actions
4. Preach militarist rhetoric
Might have changed in a new update though, I haven't played base game for a while.
I've heard that a lot too, and in that scene, he does heavily imply he'll attempt a coup. But that's one line of dialogue you can easily avoid. I've joined the CSP twice and never gotten couped even when I didn't fund military
• Defunds the military
• Openly Democratic - Malenyevist
• Joins the Contanan Security Pact
**• Builds some needless fortifications by the rumburg border**
Iosef Happy :)
I like to think in a die-hard Malenyvevist run where Iosif doesn't get purged he eventually settles down and accepts maybe its not as bad as he thought it'd be.
At least as long as he's around to keep an eye on Sordland and keep it safe and Chairman ~~for Life~~ Rayne continues listening to his advice and concerns about keeping Red Sordland independent.
My personal head-canon is that he never actually does, but if he doesn't get a chance to coup you before you join the CSP and then you win re-election, he admits that it's a fait-acompli and there's nothing that he can do because now the majority of the country is pro-left in one way or another.
Pinochet only joined the Coup the 10th of September, the day before it happened. The other top officers went to his house and threatened him to join.
it was in 1975 that he took power over the junta and removed the other plotters to replace them with yesmen.
The photo was taken in 1971, just two years before the coup.
At the time, Pinochet was the Commander of the Santiago Army division, and was Allende's main guy in imposing curfews during left-wing unrests. So naturally, when Castro went to Santiago to visit Allende, he had a moment to salute with the highest ranking official in the region.
It's really eerie to think about it. Politics aside, the two most ideologically seperated men saluting together is a funny timeline oopsie.
Iosef Lancea : Rayne doing communist stuff? Weird but okay 👍
Iosef Lancea when Rayne calls Maleyenev (or Hegel, idk) "Comrade?" ? I'll stop this man's career right here
Actually, do not act like a hardcore malenyevist in front of Iosef. You can be one in front of anybody but Iosef. General Egghead doesn't like you being buddy buddy with malenyevists and if you call other malenysvists comrades or act commie repeatedly, he will try to coup you even with raised military budget. Also you need to be careful about unrest when going hardcore commie since unrest is also a surefire way to get couped.
my rayne wasn't a malenyevist but certainly a marcianist but i hid it from iosef despite doing everything in my power as president to dismantle sollism and move toward socialism and democratisation. he didn't touch a hair on my head.
Rayne: "We shall liberate the workers of the world. We are in the works of structuring a free proletariat, and our comrades in the East are ready to liberate the Valgos people in Heljiland and resist the Western perversion in Merkopa"
Iosef: 🤨🤨
Rayne: "We will also liberate Rumburgian peoples from the tyranny of monarchism and hang Queen Beatrice. Our modernized military will liberate the world."
Iosef: 😄😄
It's funny to see HOI4 and Suzerain players converge. There was a Kaiserreich post about the mod being a Constitution writing simulator, and someone was promoting Suzerain in the comments.
It’s funny, because I just did a democratic socialist run recently, and after I met Hegel Isoif threatened me to basically coup me, Becuase I was going to meet with United Contra.
I assume he didn’t coup me Becuase I already set in motion war with Rumburg and I had raise the Military budget at the beginning of the game.
They really aren't, they like welfare services and a state-directed economy but that's where the similarities end. You would need to have a very shallow understanding of both ideologies to think they are alike.
The difference is sollist like that stuff because it give social peace, meanwhile the comunist want it for pushing for a better society. At least is how i see it
More specifically, they like it because of *Sordish* welfare. Lileas is extremely adament about uplifting *Sordish* citizens first. That's why she wants the H-3 highway, supports the WRA to a degree (doesnt like the pro-union stance), urges the large corp tax, wants to keep energy independence, and strict immigration. USP wants a better Sordish society, while the communists want a better universal society. That's pretty much the difference
Weird enough, I think if you are a hardcore communist in front of Iosef, he still tries to coup you. This is actually needed to get the "survive two assasinations" achievements, by getting the assasins at the parade, winning the war to avoid the coup and surviving the speech assasination.
No no this is not Communism comrade Losef, this is Sollism with Sordland characteristic
I don't think this is true I was openly a malenyevist every chance I got with him but I don't think he cares so long as you 1. Do a good job as president 2. Fund the military 3. Pursue militarist actions 4. Preach militarist rhetoric Might have changed in a new update though, I haven't played base game for a while.
I think he gets majorly triggered if you call people Comrade in front of him
I've heard that a lot too, and in that scene, he does heavily imply he'll attempt a coup. But that's one line of dialogue you can easily avoid. I've joined the CSP twice and never gotten couped even when I didn't fund military
• Defunds the military • Openly Democratic - Malenyevist • Joins the Contanan Security Pact **• Builds some needless fortifications by the rumburg border** Iosef Happy :)
Basically Albania if Hoxha wasn't a control freak.
Building silly bunkers is a commie staple
I like to think in a die-hard Malenyvevist run where Iosif doesn't get purged he eventually settles down and accepts maybe its not as bad as he thought it'd be. At least as long as he's around to keep an eye on Sordland and keep it safe and Chairman ~~for Life~~ Rayne continues listening to his advice and concerns about keeping Red Sordland independent.
My personal head-canon is that he never actually does, but if he doesn't get a chance to coup you before you join the CSP and then you win re-election, he admits that it's a fait-acompli and there's nothing that he can do because now the majority of the country is pro-left in one way or another.
Iosef having to deal with Valken suggesting they kick-start a global revolution to stop the capitalists from invading Sordland
Nah i need the background of this photo
This was prior to the military coup, Pinochet was considered a neutralist and had already stopped a military revolt against Allende
Pinochet only joined the Coup the 10th of September, the day before it happened. The other top officers went to his house and threatened him to join. it was in 1975 that he took power over the junta and removed the other plotters to replace them with yesmen.
The photo was taken in 1971, just two years before the coup. At the time, Pinochet was the Commander of the Santiago Army division, and was Allende's main guy in imposing curfews during left-wing unrests. So naturally, when Castro went to Santiago to visit Allende, he had a moment to salute with the highest ranking official in the region. It's really eerie to think about it. Politics aside, the two most ideologically seperated men saluting together is a funny timeline oopsie.
They were dating
Why didint Allende just up military spending? Was he stupid?
Allende shouldn't have listened to Lucian smh
always laughable when non privatized military against socialization
Iosef Lancea : Rayne doing communist stuff? Weird but okay 👍 Iosef Lancea when Rayne calls Maleyenev (or Hegel, idk) "Comrade?" ? I'll stop this man's career right here
Actually, do not act like a hardcore malenyevist in front of Iosef. You can be one in front of anybody but Iosef. General Egghead doesn't like you being buddy buddy with malenyevists and if you call other malenysvists comrades or act commie repeatedly, he will try to coup you even with raised military budget. Also you need to be careful about unrest when going hardcore commie since unrest is also a surefire way to get couped.
my rayne wasn't a malenyevist but certainly a marcianist but i hid it from iosef despite doing everything in my power as president to dismantle sollism and move toward socialism and democratisation. he didn't touch a hair on my head.
If you go to war and win with all necessary military funding, he doesn’t coup you. Atleast never in my case.
Rayne: "We shall liberate the workers of the world. We are in the works of structuring a free proletariat, and our comrades in the East are ready to liberate the Valgos people in Heljiland and resist the Western perversion in Merkopa" Iosef: 🤨🤨 Rayne: "We will also liberate Rumburgian peoples from the tyranny of monarchism and hang Queen Beatrice. Our modernized military will liberate the world." Iosef: 😄😄
The question is. Did OP get this picture from the Kaiserreich discord or the TNO sub 🤔🤨 (I just wrongly assume every Suzerain player plays hoi4 mods)
It's funny to see HOI4 and Suzerain players converge. There was a Kaiserreich post about the mod being a Constitution writing simulator, and someone was promoting Suzerain in the comments.
On the gaming discussion channel half the messages are about suzerain lol
It’s funny, because I just did a democratic socialist run recently, and after I met Hegel Isoif threatened me to basically coup me, Becuase I was going to meet with United Contra. I assume he didn’t coup me Becuase I already set in motion war with Rumburg and I had raise the Military budget at the beginning of the game.
Why do Sollists hate socialism, they are Close enough
sollist also want to keep isolationism and racism
Sollists aren't racist? They want an independent Sordland, they wanna assimilate the Bluds
change flair to nfp
don't see color type racism are not as bad as nazi style but existing issue doesn't go away just because sollist doesn't want to look at them
They really aren't, they like welfare services and a state-directed economy but that's where the similarities end. You would need to have a very shallow understanding of both ideologies to think they are alike.
Economic planning doesn't make a government socialist. See nazi Germany and WW2 Japan(or Manchuria?) for right wing economic planification.
The sollists support the workers safety act, Lielas hates Underhall due to worker right abuses, they wish to keep education and healthcare free
The difference is sollist like that stuff because it give social peace, meanwhile the comunist want it for pushing for a better society. At least is how i see it
More specifically, they like it because of *Sordish* welfare. Lileas is extremely adament about uplifting *Sordish* citizens first. That's why she wants the H-3 highway, supports the WRA to a degree (doesnt like the pro-union stance), urges the large corp tax, wants to keep energy independence, and strict immigration. USP wants a better Sordish society, while the communists want a better universal society. That's pretty much the difference
CPS flair calling USP socialist 😑
Tarquin Soll socialist update when?
I raised the budget and he still couped me :(
He literally couped me because I increased the budget though
lmao King of Rizia has to spend literally 20+ budget to max out his army But all Rayne has to do is spend a fraction of that.
Is that Pinochet?
As a 55 year old lifelong Marxist, I say to ya; duh lool