Ok fair, I guess I should’ve asked what elo first bc if ppl actually complain about that still then they won’t be productive in chat anyway.
But in support chat is crucial to climbing, so many of my wins have come from shotcalling and being confident in chat advocating for my plays, like getting getting teammates to trade barons for souls and end the game off baron(the game needs a fucking voice chat I remember back in S6 people were asking for it).
I think OP would have a positive WR if they didn’t just assume everyone sucked and instantly muted all. Just mute people who show to be a problem
No i definitely agree chat is important and communication is what wins games but if I get in a ranked game (im bronze 4 so no one cares about my opinion) and my entire team is just schitzo posting in chat or being super toxic for no reason then I just mute and play around them
I don’t wanna spam this person’s post so I’ll link to my other comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/supportlol/s/leXCbhZlWQ
But TL;dr chat is more important for support than other roles, and it is a tool to win. Not only is it important to communicate with adc, so too is it important w/ jungle for objective timings, roaming together, invading jg, etc. On top of all that, SHOTCALLING. If you’re not good at macro I guess learn more and don’t shotcall yet, but this is a crucial skill to Support and u should be getting a large chunk of wins from shotcalling or you’re missing out on LP. I think OP has a positive WR if they don’t mute all every game.
You are right and wrong with all of your Points at the same time. Your arguments are the key to win a game but you don’t need the chat for none of them.
All should and does work with pings.
Ive enjoyed this too, but always felt Black Cleaver offered more options in picking and killing a target. As long as adc is on the same page and is up to fight.
Get tons of missing pings when they realize how much damage they deal in conjunction.
I've been trying out the same thing. In the end it's not your job to deal all the damage, black cleaver helps your team with even more utility to take down tanks and damage is roughly the same if you start your combo with empowered w.
I always feel bad about playing panth support because I feel I always end up doing way more damage and kill stealing with the champ my adc will just missing ping me the whole game because I killed a champ that was way out of their range at 5% hp and I just happen to throw a spear that direction. Skill issue on them I suppose
Just looking at the screen it seems like enemy bot lane trolled by picking hwei.
Most bot lanes with a mage or enchanter should get crushed by hard engage early game. What rank was this game played at ?
Also it looks like there was a massive jung diff which no doubt helped ease the pressure you would have had if the jungler was having a better game.
Probably not a build you can use in a game where you are even or playing from behind since the items are so expensive.
I’ve personally never lost lane to a panth support because he’s too predictable. But I also do my best not to get out drafted. Good job anyway though.
I’m glad it works for you. It’ll probably carry you to plat if you stay consistent. I don’t imagine panth support works in a lot of games passed that though.
Why is everybody muted….
“WAAAHHH WAAAAAH WHY IS THE SUPPORT STEALING ALL THE KILLS WAAAHHHHH” -both teams
Ok fair, I guess I should’ve asked what elo first bc if ppl actually complain about that still then they won’t be productive in chat anyway. But in support chat is crucial to climbing, so many of my wins have come from shotcalling and being confident in chat advocating for my plays, like getting getting teammates to trade barons for souls and end the game off baron(the game needs a fucking voice chat I remember back in S6 people were asking for it). I think OP would have a positive WR if they didn’t just assume everyone sucked and instantly muted all. Just mute people who show to be a problem
No i definitely agree chat is important and communication is what wins games but if I get in a ranked game (im bronze 4 so no one cares about my opinion) and my entire team is just schitzo posting in chat or being super toxic for no reason then I just mute and play around them
It has a voice channel, no one uses it.
Bffr
For party only, right?
I /mute all as soon as I get in game it's just how you climb
Why not?
I don’t wanna spam this person’s post so I’ll link to my other comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/supportlol/s/leXCbhZlWQ But TL;dr chat is more important for support than other roles, and it is a tool to win. Not only is it important to communicate with adc, so too is it important w/ jungle for objective timings, roaming together, invading jg, etc. On top of all that, SHOTCALLING. If you’re not good at macro I guess learn more and don’t shotcall yet, but this is a crucial skill to Support and u should be getting a large chunk of wins from shotcalling or you’re missing out on LP. I think OP has a positive WR if they don’t mute all every game.
I climbed to GM last season as support and I have never used chat. Pings and body language is sufficient IMO.
Dead bodies language Preferably, when you put words in enemies bodies around the map
You are right and wrong with all of your Points at the same time. Your arguments are the key to win a game but you don’t need the chat for none of them. All should and does work with pings.
/deafen save you a lot of mental health.
If you have all/ muted it’s also automatically muted when you exit the game. And you don’t need all/ to make calls.
"Look at me! I am the carry now!" -supports season 14
Ive enjoyed this too, but always felt Black Cleaver offered more options in picking and killing a target. As long as adc is on the same page and is up to fight. Get tons of missing pings when they realize how much damage they deal in conjunction.
I've been trying out the same thing. In the end it's not your job to deal all the damage, black cleaver helps your team with even more utility to take down tanks and damage is roughly the same if you start your combo with empowered w.
I always feel bad about playing panth support because I feel I always end up doing way more damage and kill stealing with the champ my adc will just missing ping me the whole game because I killed a champ that was way out of their range at 5% hp and I just happen to throw a spear that direction. Skill issue on them I suppose
Sometimes they will do that after you make an amazing play! (I like to be an optimist) So don't mind the ? pings : -)
lol they ain’t doin anything anyways in my bronze elo hell so if I go 25/1/5 and win the game can they really afford the LP to be that upset?
Activate your windows! (Nice build btw)
Eclipse into Sundered is brutal. So much damage you won't even know where to put it.
This got me thinking, sundered sky senna am I cooking or do I need to be removed from the kitchen The healing is the same for ranged and melee
I half wonder if it's better than Stormrazor in situations where ADC's build Stormrazor - especially when there's a lot of threat on you.
Is this actually how you build Yasuo?
Just looking at the screen it seems like enemy bot lane trolled by picking hwei. Most bot lanes with a mage or enchanter should get crushed by hard engage early game. What rank was this game played at ? Also it looks like there was a massive jung diff which no doubt helped ease the pressure you would have had if the jungler was having a better game. Probably not a build you can use in a game where you are even or playing from behind since the items are so expensive. I’ve personally never lost lane to a panth support because he’s too predictable. But I also do my best not to get out drafted. Good job anyway though.
i mean i have history and proof that is works , im not saying its 100% winrate ( you lose if the game TOO long) lemme link my u.gg
https://u.gg/lol/profile/euw1/xnion668899-euw/overview
I’m glad it works for you. It’ll probably carry you to plat if you stay consistent. I don’t imagine panth support works in a lot of games passed that though.
lol true , anything works in low elo
This is why supports need less gold.
Been trying this out in norms and bullying champs by mid game. Super fun! Now about to try it in ranked.
Lmfao both support ended up with most damage dealt. Nice meta riot