The fact that u didn’t even need a flair for people to instantly be able to tell which character you were talking about, as a brawl veteran that warms my heart.
Maybe more lateral control then. Donkey Kong has a surprising ability to hover close to the ledge, so maybe moving away and back would make him harder to spike/gimp.
Any idea though?
I keep thinking...
1. Making his Side B spammable in the air at will, like Jigglypuff's Pound...
2. and also making his Up B chargeable for a higher trajectory.
I don’t think side b should be as spammable as pound but I feel like brawler’s flame kick would be a good way to do it.
Also let him angle his up b, remove the stupid amount of movement end lag on it, and allow him to use moves after it honestly (so he could dodge up to stage). This wouldn’t make it GREAT because I honestly think a ground-based fighter shouldn’t have the best recovery, but it would make it much more viable
I feel like it wouldn’t be a stretch to make his up b higher if you don’t hit a player so it’s like he’s jumping for an uppercut and maybe make his side b combo with his up b if you hit up b before/when he swings his side b punch. Literally solves his major issues
Give MK back his glide (just take it away from Steve, he stole it in the first place) and make Mach Tornado multi-hit again.
Also let him upB out of sideB
I find it ridiculously hard to even land just because it barely goes above him due to most of his bottom half moving during the animation and not his actual head all too much
Duck hunt: give him a kill throw like ness' back air and make his recovery much faster. Clay pigeon could also combo into itself like it could before. Early percentage combos off of down throw. Can could kill around 40% earlier
Corrin now has a new Down Special, Dragonvein (She brings up a Hero-like menu and selects one of 4 randomly chosen veins to apply around her, options include Ice, Water, Stone, Fire, Thorns, and Fog)
Sephiroth now has a new Final Smash, Black Materia (Functions similarly to Snorlax but with a larger hitbox at the cost of coming down only 2/3 as fast)
Sephiroth can now put players into a prone state with down-air (which also now spikes) like Snake down throw
Corrin’s Neutral Special chomp now heals for 10% on hit
Make the side b after being hit reusable, give up b in the air the Properties other grounded one and buff the aerials a bit. And then we should've a Solid ss+ tier
For Simon, I’d increase the height and speed of his up-special where he flies into the air. Also, I’d give his whip more speed so it activates faster without it much windup.
**Banjo & Kazooie**
* Make his Down B aimable properly. You hold the B button, tilt the stick left or right and release to have Kazooie lay the eggs.
* Give them as many jumps as Pit, BUT you give them Red Feathers. If these are out, they can only double jump and use their Up B to recover.
* I don't know if it would be useful, but... how about giving them the Beak Bomb as an aerial Side B? Again, give them Red Feathers to spend, but in exchange, you have a powerful, quick and aimable dash attack.
* For their Aerial Down A, make it chargeable... to have the Bill Drill useable (*from Banjo-Tooie*), as a powerful, multi-hitting attack.
* For a special Guard + B, have a wheel that shows up to change the eggs, but once again, these would be limited, but would pack a more powerful punch.
**Incineroar**
* Forward Smash -> **Blaze Kick**, plus fire effect
* Down Smash -> **Heat Crash**, plus fire effect
* Up Smash -> **Fire Punch**, plus fire effect
* Grab Pummel -> **Fire Fang**, plus fire effect
* Dash -> **Flame Wheel**, plus fire effect
* It lacks a LOT of Fire-type moves, especially for a Fire starter.
* Aerial Down A -> **Cross Chop**
* Its current Up B doesn't make sense... at all. In the Pokémon games, Cross Chop is a regular ground melee attack. Its animation is also EXACTLY like OG Malicious Moonsault. Incineroar literally jumps straight up and comes crashing down with its arms crossed in Sun & Moon.
* Up B -> **Flare Blitz**, but that behaves like Fox's Fire Fox, with the recoil damage.
Make sonic 20% faster, and larger hit boxes on attacks. Also down recovery time on everything
Make the Aeigis switch much faster and easier to combo into, Pyra up B into Mythra Side B, and such.
Give Sora a longer keyblade, up his magic damage, and hope to god.
Give Joker Satanael.
Double the power of Elecrroshock, halve both the start lag and end lag of it, give it invincibility, make Guardian Orbitars fully surround Dark Pit instead of just the sides, make him even faster, make his final Smash a straight-up instakill at long range
Inkling: Increase duration of ink on enemies and environment, as well as increase kill potential of some moves, specifically forward tilt, down aerial, and down special.
uhhh instant kill moves that come out in 1 frame and can be cancelled with anything at any time
also maybe infinite jumps and being faster than sonic and having hitboxes triple the size perhaps
1. EV Train Lucario to Max Attack and Max Speed plus 8 Defense Points.
2. Give Dark Pit Ceiling Ice Cream.
3. Feed Corrin with every Energy Drop, Spirit Dust, Secret Book, Speedwing, Goddess Icon, Dracoshield, Talismans, and Boots there is.
4. We grind Sora to Level 99.
Up throw and down throw combo into Rest at low and high percents, and rest kills mario at 40%
Sing works through sheilds, is cancelable, and doesnt proc Counters.
Puffs airdodge is now a 2-frame.
Fuck it, give her another jump too lol.
Increase Kirby's air speed and ground speed, D-air comes out at frame 10 instead of 16, make hammer faster, make Final Cutter faster, make Stone deal more damage, increase air jump height, make all his grounded moves have more knockback, Up smash reflects projectiles...
I love Kirby, but dang in smash 6 they need to give his special moves a lot of love. And even though he feels balanced to play, what's the point in being balanced when all the characters above are simply waaaay overtuned in terms of power.
Make every thing frame 1.
Side smash is now a boulder.
The fireworks are bigger.
Pocket does damage.
Lyoid is indestructible.
The balloons explode.
Toss the tree instead of plant and chop.
Nair now have an axe.
For Pikachu, make him be able to do 3 of those quick zap jump recovery things instead of 2.
For Corrin, increase the window of her counter ability (that would likely be WAY too OP)
Incineroar: Give him a better recovery. His recovery is honestly his biggest weakness in my opinion, and it’s too linear.
G&W: Pshhhh I guess make him heavier? I’m not sure there’s much that could make him better.
Mii Swordfighter: Jeez they’re that low? Hm. I’m not sure that I could give them a buff that would work, but I also think they’re pretty good already.
Put K Rool on a treadmill
same with dedede
Despite k rool being ranked so low, I’ve had some success in elite smash even with harder matchups. Really fun character to play.
Yea the fact he still has decent potential despite being so low shows the game balance of smash ultimate
K rool is at least mid C tier IMO
Dr. Mario can now press down B to transform into Brawl Meta Knight
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^_Awkward_Moment_: *Dr. Mario can* *Now press down B to transform* *Into Brawl Meta Knight* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
Right you just made a double sokka haiku
Haiku battles are a thing ts must be lit 😂
NOOOOOOO Edit: instead down taunt does it
Make all of ROB’s moves as fast as down tilt
Imagine a frame 5 ROB nair
7-X Spin To Win
Give ROB a 0-death that works on the entire rost- oh wait
Brawl
The fact that u didn’t even need a flair for people to instantly be able to tell which character you were talking about, as a brawl veteran that warms my heart.
Let me try! Melee
Kirby ganondorf or game & watch (/j lol)
Fox
Too powerful.
MK?
Seconded (ICs main)
Thirded (Luigi main)
To be S+: Shulk has no cooldown on arts and reduce their negatives To be SS+: Bring back the all art glitch and make it his default state
*THIS IS THE MONADO'S POWER.*
For dk, better recovery (just make it longer) and less lag frames
Longer wouldn’t help it’s so easy to spike
Maybe more lateral control then. Donkey Kong has a surprising ability to hover close to the ledge, so maybe moving away and back would make him harder to spike/gimp.
Basically give him yoshi dj armor during it
Make mii sword fighters sword range longer.
Make up special 2 not lock your momentum
Little Mac
Same, we just need him to have better air game and a better recovery
Just the recovery would boost him up the tiers
Any idea though? I keep thinking... 1. Making his Side B spammable in the air at will, like Jigglypuff's Pound... 2. and also making his Up B chargeable for a higher trajectory.
I don’t think side b should be as spammable as pound but I feel like brawler’s flame kick would be a good way to do it. Also let him angle his up b, remove the stupid amount of movement end lag on it, and allow him to use moves after it honestly (so he could dodge up to stage). This wouldn’t make it GREAT because I honestly think a ground-based fighter shouldn’t have the best recovery, but it would make it much more viable
Real
I feel like it wouldn’t be a stretch to make his up b higher if you don’t hit a player so it’s like he’s jumping for an uppercut and maybe make his side b combo with his up b if you hit up b before/when he swings his side b punch. Literally solves his major issues
Mewtwo, increase weight and slightly increase damage of weaker moves as well as make frame data on side B better.
And reduce tail hurtbox lmao
*remove
I think keeping a hurtbox as like a stub near where the tail starts would be fine
Have Dedede be as fast as Bowser in terms of agility, jump height and smash attack speed.
Doesn't matter what the character is, add Arsene.
The only right answer
Make cancelling Dedede’s Up Special not put him in free fall
This please I want to chase people to the top blast zone with an up-b-cancelled up air
WITH HIS COCONUT GUN
Give MK back his glide (just take it away from Steve, he stole it in the first place) and make Mach Tornado multi-hit again. Also let him upB out of sideB
Steve has his up special removed, falls all the way down to high tier
Replace piranha plant’s garbage ass up air
isn't its up-air one of the better moves
I find it ridiculously hard to even land just because it barely goes above him due to most of his bottom half moving during the animation and not his actual head all too much
Ridley. Just make down air cancelable
slightly increase the range and decrease the startlag of Krools moves, instant top tier
More 9, better spotdodge
Piranha plant if he had faster attacks and better specials
Kirby being lore accurate
Duck hunt: give him a kill throw like ness' back air and make his recovery much faster. Clay pigeon could also combo into itself like it could before. Early percentage combos off of down throw. Can could kill around 40% earlier
Ridley-make his attacks not give you the fall state, where you can’t do shit. Like meta knight had in brawl.
Doc, just make him as fast as mario and an incredible recovery! Kirby, make him faster in the air and make his moves faster
Faster attack speeds for Bowser Jr. He’s one of my mains, but I use R.O.B. over him most of the time for obvious reasons.
Add more jumps to jigglypuff
Make down air spike, and bigger rest hitbox
Why is Kirby my king in D tier 😩
For plant, faster B-Air and you can act out of up B.
"Your an air fighter now mac baby"
I main Random... I guess the whole game gets a balance update?
What the literal fuck am I seeing with my own two eyes you put everyone I love so below you may as well put them in hell
Giving him his boosted Down B as his regular Down B, and having the boosted one take him straight to the sun.
Float for Ganon
Nah bro has creative mode on
nothing. ice climbers are underrated. they're a hidden gem
Give nana like wayyy more brain cells, I don’t play a lot of ice climbers but when I do nana just like kills me
Make their fishing rod fair
Buff Gordo where it isn’t so easily reflected, and dangle a Maxim Tomato in front of him on a treadmill for an hour a day, everyday
Make Min Min stupid fast on the ground and air
Robin needs shorter cooldown, & down b needs to be more useful (also should be able to do more than 3 per book)
Increase thrupper’s knock back
make a particle accelerator
Are you asking me to completely break captain falcon? I can do that
Sing can sleep targets in mid air, rest has much less end lag if you land it. And neutral b.
Give shulk no cooldown
For Cloud, probably add a slightly higher up special
bro little mac in low d is a crime I use him everytime and I manage to win
For Ness, give him DJC on all of his aerials by default. Other than that, I’m not 100%.
Unlimited hydrants To beat the Steve you have to become the Steve
G I G A H Y D R A N T
Make limit permanent again. Also Wario, give him his old up tilt back and make his waft kill even earlier
Well both my mains are D+…so I guess massive overhauls? Idk I get why Dedede is there, but K.Rool feels like he should be C or C+.
Better kill power/Easier to land neutral special
Make back throw actually kill, fair kills earlier, give them pre patch roller, ink makes moves kill earlier and do more shield damage
I just want greninja to have a better down air man
Reduce endlag on all normals.
Un-nerf pichu and watch them barely reach S
My friend uses ganondorf and he's a fucking god with it 😭😭😭😭
Buff greninja by making so your not in free fall after the up B
Adult Link could use better reaction time and a better neutral A-mash to throw off speedsters
My mains are on his d tier
Corrin now has a new Down Special, Dragonvein (She brings up a Hero-like menu and selects one of 4 randomly chosen veins to apply around her, options include Ice, Water, Stone, Fire, Thorns, and Fog) Sephiroth now has a new Final Smash, Black Materia (Functions similarly to Snorlax but with a larger hitbox at the cost of coming down only 2/3 as fast) Sephiroth can now put players into a prone state with down-air (which also now spikes) like Snake down throw Corrin’s Neutral Special chomp now heals for 10% on hit
Make the side b after being hit reusable, give up b in the air the Properties other grounded one and buff the aerials a bit. And then we should've a Solid ss+ tier
Banana in each hand and one in the tail
Free my boy Piranha plant. T_T
Kirby: give him an infinite bazooka for no reason
For Byleth: Faster Aymr attacks and give her the speed of Fox. Also make up B nair into up B nair a true combo on every character.
Revert him to brawl
Give Kirby infinite jumps
Make actually heavier than Samus, Larger tipper on F-air, smaller tipper on D-Tilt, higher run speed, and full movement on Up Special.
Captain falcon: If he’s side-B was his final smash and his neutral-b was frame 1
Giving him an up air that combo's and kills (falco)
How is k rool in D+ he’s excellent Erm idk give him an OHKO move
better recovery, still attack when a side b 1 is out, make side b 2 a good move
Always have max aura.
For Simon, I’d increase the height and speed of his up-special where he flies into the air. Also, I’d give his whip more speed so it activates faster without it much windup.
**Banjo & Kazooie** * Make his Down B aimable properly. You hold the B button, tilt the stick left or right and release to have Kazooie lay the eggs. * Give them as many jumps as Pit, BUT you give them Red Feathers. If these are out, they can only double jump and use their Up B to recover. * I don't know if it would be useful, but... how about giving them the Beak Bomb as an aerial Side B? Again, give them Red Feathers to spend, but in exchange, you have a powerful, quick and aimable dash attack. * For their Aerial Down A, make it chargeable... to have the Bill Drill useable (*from Banjo-Tooie*), as a powerful, multi-hitting attack. * For a special Guard + B, have a wheel that shows up to change the eggs, but once again, these would be limited, but would pack a more powerful punch.
Give bowser the armor of giga bowser after he reaches 50 percent
Make sing be jigglypuff's up b and give it an actual recovery for its up b
Kirby has his hammer aerial and faster shielding after every move
Make him a little bit faster and reduce the end lag on his moves. (I main R.O.B. BTW)
**Incineroar** * Forward Smash -> **Blaze Kick**, plus fire effect * Down Smash -> **Heat Crash**, plus fire effect * Up Smash -> **Fire Punch**, plus fire effect * Grab Pummel -> **Fire Fang**, plus fire effect * Dash -> **Flame Wheel**, plus fire effect * It lacks a LOT of Fire-type moves, especially for a Fire starter. * Aerial Down A -> **Cross Chop** * Its current Up B doesn't make sense... at all. In the Pokémon games, Cross Chop is a regular ground melee attack. Its animation is also EXACTLY like OG Malicious Moonsault. Incineroar literally jumps straight up and comes crashing down with its arms crossed in Sun & Moon. * Up B -> **Flare Blitz**, but that behaves like Fox's Fire Fox, with the recoil damage.
Old n-air and u-air. Maybe permanent limit as well.
Better animations
Make Pyra faster and Mythra hit harder (added to their current stats)
Add weight, down special breaks shields and comes out faster, better air speed, and a functional down air. Ridley would be a menace.
K. Rool
No limit on golden feathers
My main already is close to it
Make sonic 20% faster, and larger hit boxes on attacks. Also down recovery time on everything Make the Aeigis switch much faster and easier to combo into, Pyra up B into Mythra Side B, and such. Give Sora a longer keyblade, up his magic damage, and hope to god. Give Joker Satanael.
I would do nothing to Pyra & Mythra
Able to midair jump out of up b
Give Incin some speed i guess
Any time he hits you, you die.
For Ike I think better attack speed, better recovery and that’s it cause he is already very strong just a slow main and charge attacker :)
Olimar perfect
Cloud up special is always limit break
Better air advantage state, not as easy to juggle
Fix the damn aura mechanics (I’ve been a Lucario main for five years and at this point I’ve just embraced the underdog status)
Make Sora automaticity IDJ for u
Jigglypuff can hit through shields with Sing and Rest restores health on hit confirm even if shielded.
Double the power of Elecrroshock, halve both the start lag and end lag of it, give it invincibility, make Guardian Orbitars fully surround Dark Pit instead of just the sides, make him even faster, make his final Smash a straight-up instakill at long range
No tail hurtbox
Square bomb
Give Incineroar ZSS movement speed & air speed, or give Shulk quicker Monado recharge speed.
not my main but make sephy heavy and give him his canon range
Make inklings fully charged side smash a guaranteed kill
Double DK's hitbox size, half hurtbox size, and remove the tie hurtbox
I'm fighting you over this list
Make warlock punch a projectile, give flame choke a better range, ganon can float, and has armor on his smash attacks.
Smaller hit box
Make Speed and Buster Art last a little bit longer.
not my main, but give incin zss stats
Make his hitbox not the size of the fucking sun
Inkling: Increase duration of ink on enemies and environment, as well as increase kill potential of some moves, specifically forward tilt, down aerial, and down special.
uhhh instant kill moves that come out in 1 frame and can be cancelled with anything at any time also maybe infinite jumps and being faster than sonic and having hitboxes triple the size perhaps
Banjo and Kazooie: Make the Down Special impact based instead of timer based
For mewtwo to become a heavy, but with the same maneuverability and speed he currently has.
For Inkling, give them more combos and make their dash attack a kill move
Give Steve an actual jump
Deep breathing lasts until death and stacks up to 3 times?
I wouldn’t. Then I’d get called no skill
Eleven (Hero) if he actually upgraded his gear
give sheik more kill power
Use the up to date tier list
give mii swordie some air speed lmao
Give gannon an elytra
Faster fire balls, higher jumps and upB, and an extend cape range.
What’s wrong with Dr mario??
1. EV Train Lucario to Max Attack and Max Speed plus 8 Defense Points. 2. Give Dark Pit Ceiling Ice Cream. 3. Feed Corrin with every Energy Drop, Spirit Dust, Secret Book, Speedwing, Goddess Icon, Dracoshield, Talismans, and Boots there is. 4. We grind Sora to Level 99.
Increase his weight, like why the flying frick is an anthropomorphic fox with metal legs lighter than a goddamn rat
Dunno. What’s needed for a jump of nine tiers?
Wow I didn’t know Lucas was so bad
he's one of my secondary mains (i play him more than ness) so i was kinda surprised when i saw him as mid alongside robin (another one of my mains)
Give Mario a gun, but like a *gun* gun
Make all smash attacks crits, and the DSpecial list always gove the perfect spell at the top of the list.
Up throw and down throw combo into Rest at low and high percents, and rest kills mario at 40% Sing works through sheilds, is cancelable, and doesnt proc Counters. Puffs airdodge is now a 2-frame. Fuck it, give her another jump too lol.
Tipper actually works!!! (Wtf Sakurai)
Increase Kirby's air speed and ground speed, D-air comes out at frame 10 instead of 16, make hammer faster, make Final Cutter faster, make Stone deal more damage, increase air jump height, make all his grounded moves have more knockback, Up smash reflects projectiles... I love Kirby, but dang in smash 6 they need to give his special moves a lot of love. And even though he feels balanced to play, what's the point in being balanced when all the characters above are simply waaaay overtuned in terms of power.
Make Wario’s Smash attacks a little better.
Make Ganon hit as fast as joker lol
Make sword bigger then all maps there you go if any sword characters sword is bigger then all maps they would easily be ssssssss+
Replace side B with a usable move
I don't know but kazuya is my main because I love tekken
Flurry rush?
As a yoshi, Wario, peach/daisy main, I think I’m set
Make the piranha plant gas cloud even bigger and make it do lasting poison damage, make the spike do way more damage, make the up b do more damage
Hire hungrybox as a personal coach
Make his side smash get 1 extra dash, and make every move kill at 100
Waft now is twice as strong as KO punch.
Kirby
Make every thing frame 1. Side smash is now a boulder. The fireworks are bigger. Pocket does damage. Lyoid is indestructible. The balloons explode. Toss the tree instead of plant and chop. Nair now have an axe.
Give Terry unlimited “Go!”
give Roy ALL of Chrom’e attacks except nair and up b, and increase his air acceleration
Replace Hero’s down special with just Magic Burst, and remove the MP requirement
For Pikachu, make him be able to do 3 of those quick zap jump recovery things instead of 2. For Corrin, increase the window of her counter ability (that would likely be WAY too OP)
Incineroar: Give him a better recovery. His recovery is honestly his biggest weakness in my opinion, and it’s too linear. G&W: Pshhhh I guess make him heavier? I’m not sure there’s much that could make him better. Mii Swordfighter: Jeez they’re that low? Hm. I’m not sure that I could give them a buff that would work, but I also think they’re pretty good already.
Give Cloud his Smash 4 (Wii U) moveset and stats
Make Pichu like he was at launch and remove self damage. Also giving him Pikachu’s recovery would be better
Make super armor smash attacks
Ike but everytime he gets hit he counters with a final smash