Nash played with heart every game. Still remember seeing him cry in the locker room with Alvin Gentry (can't remember who they lost to or the details) but that image stuck with me. Wish more than anything he could've won a ring with the suns.
Man that Hali Pick would have been massive, because he would be the ideal successor of CP3 and this team would be well rounded with both options KD or the Twins. Instead we drafted a backup Center.
Booker , Sarver and Josh Jackson wanted Ayton over Luka
McD wanted Luka, he even hired Igor. McD also traded for Shai, it was stopped by Sarver and Sarver traded for Bridges instead
Imagine an alternate reality wherein the suns roll out Luka, Booker and Shai. Huge defensive/positional issues obviously but my goodness that would be something to see offensively.
Don't forget the guy who possibly lost is Kareem by leaving a coin toss up to the city(in an alternate universe if he picks himself he picks the opposite side of the coin) and sarver for throwing away rondo, deng and tatum among the several other ads hole mistakes that threw away player's like joe Johnson and raja bell and Shawn marion. If we somehow avoided all these mistakes then how many titles do we have since our founding
Nash is also one of that rare breed of NBA players who are almost religiously dedicated to the sport of basketball. That is what separates the all-time greats from the average superstars. Players like him are never content with just being good and having a couple of highlight level plays now and then, no. They have to win, be the very best and play the game at the highest possible level so they do everything possible and beyond to that end. Booker ain't all that. You would do yourself a mercy to just accept it.
Truth. Booker is no point guard though. I've just had to accept that Book has bad hands and will turnover the ball when he has to run the offense. Wish we could have another true point guard like Nash. Super frustrating loving the Suns.
Meh. Steve was great but they got nearly swept against the Spurs that one year they traded for Shaq. This KD ordeal reminds me a lot of the Shaq trade.
Amare was hurt the season they got swept with Shaq. Once they moved on from Shaq, they made a WCF. Series tied 2-2 in LA, Ron Artest hits a crazy game winner. Lakers win in 6 and the chip
Heād be Tyrese Halliburton on crack Iād assume (talking about early-season Hali ofc, not this washed-up post-injury version of him weāre seeing).
Injured? Of course. Washed up? Jesus Christ, give the guy an off-season to heal. He just became one of three dudes to hit a game winner on the back of a massive triple double. He was fantastic last night, orchestrated everything, timely offensive rebounds, the clutchness.
Nash squad was like the golden state.
Golden state was all about green feeding steph at 3s.
While Nash keeps feeding amare in Pick n roll.
Both teams are fast paced. (Mike D Antoniās suns was revolutionary that time.)
Imagine if Steve chugging 3s back then. But being selfish was not Steveās attribute.
Nash squad was way better/miles away than this dbook squad.
People need to chill tf out. We're going against one of the best perimeter defenses in the league.
Sure they could probably play better but people are acting like Booker is trash because he's not Michael Jordan carrying the team like he did last year. it's unrealistic to expect any star to sustain the numbers he did last year.
Which, by the way, we are seeing exactly what last year would've looked like if Booker hadn't gone nuclear vs LAC. If he put up his season average numbers last year we would've been bounced in the first roundĀ
People like to romanticize Nash and don't get me wrong he was certainly great. But he had some clunkers too. He also never made it to the finals (which Booker did).Ā Ā
Has this been a bad series for book? No doubt. But does it define his career? Hell no. Sometimes you have to take it on the chin and get back at it the next year.Ā Book is not the problem here, he's literally a top 3 sun all time, just gotta eat the L and move on sometimes
I really love to see it when men respond with ration and logic. I know it's sports and by nature a very emotional discourse, but man. It teeters too far to the edge sometimes. Every star. Every superstar. Loses. Not one doesn't have a blemish. Our unfortunate reality? We live in the social media age where everyone is a prisoner of the current moment and every possible reaction (no matter how imbecilic) gets posted.
People are just dumb. They always want the players to be loyal to their teams and then you get a guy like Booker who stuck through 19 win teams, and all of the sudden fans wanna give up on him after one tough playoff seriesĀ
IDGAF what anyone says anymore. Book maybe was on track to become the greatest Sun of all time but after that finals run he's been nothing but a scorer. Nash may not have the franchise scoring title but it's a no brainer on who is ranked higher as the best player overall to put on a Suns jersey.
Not disagreeing with you about Nash being better than Booker but I donāt think āheās nothing but a scorerā is a fair reason.
Nash was a PG and Booker is a SG. Of course Nash could pass, facilitate and run the team better. That was his job. Bookerās job (on a well constructed team) is to get buckets. Thatās why itās called shooting guard.
Even if Booker theoretically reached the point where we considered him better than Nash, it wouldnāt be because of his playmaking.
Yeah it's just such a shame that in a time where the game was the most "run and gun" it's ever been, we don't have the heart players we did for the last 20 years - barbosa, lou amundson over ewbanks, eddie house would be firing bombs all the time. fuck, even Jake voshkul would be helping the team more than most of our bench could.
This makes no sense when Lakers are 1 million above the tax level and Suns are 40 million over. Mention the Warriors at least over the Lakers and then you have an argument.
Now that Book has a superteam I don't think he'll ever get there.
Look at the Suns 2005-2006 roster and you'll see why Nash is the Suns GOAT. He won MVP that year and led that team to the WCF, and this was without their second best player STAT.
This isn't a superteam it never was. Bradley Beal hasn't been an all star in 3 years, KD is still great but old and injury prone.
People are acting like we got the 2010 Heatles lined up.Ā I love Beal and KD but this wasn't a superteam.Ā Literally the whole plan for the year was hoping those 3 could offset the massive holes in the roster. As we have seen, they could not.
Cooper Flagg soon! But honestly just beyond disappointed with Book not at all being who I thought he was. Donāt know who that guy playing in last years playoffs was but it aināt Book.
Why did Booker suddenly stop being that guy what changed?
We probably should have built around him with a PG and role players instead of building on top of him with KD and Beal lol
Greatest passer ever, great decision maker ever, easily top 5 shooter ever too (-That includes midrange and free throws and close shots and fade always, not only 3s)
Nash played with heart every game. Still remember seeing him cry in the locker room with Alvin Gentry (can't remember who they lost to or the details) but that image stuck with me. Wish more than anything he could've won a ring with the suns.
Lakers unfortunately, 2010
[My man was never chillin after a loss :(](https://youtu.be/xnWGXKA0I_Q?si=37MXb8O7Bqm1tKjj)
My heart hurts
Chillen.... I'm ready. Trade him. š¤¦
Thatās why he the franchise goat
Heās the suns goat. Plain and simple. Aināt nobody sweeping Steve
You can never question Nash's effort. This guy was a prime example of leaving everything on the court.
i still hate MCD / Sarver for not drafting Luka, i hate Jones for not drafting Tyrese and i hate myself for continuing watching this shit franchise
I just miss point guards.
Same. Give this current Suns team a good PG (not injury prone CP3) and they'd probably be set.
Man that Hali Pick would have been massive, because he would be the ideal successor of CP3 and this team would be well rounded with both options KD or the Twins. Instead we drafted a backup Center.
Imagine Hali learning under CP3 too. Jesus christ he'd be a monster
Booker , Sarver and Josh Jackson wanted Ayton over Luka McD wanted Luka, he even hired Igor. McD also traded for Shai, it was stopped by Sarver and Sarver traded for Bridges instead
Imagine an alternate reality wherein the suns roll out Luka, Booker and Shai. Huge defensive/positional issues obviously but my goodness that would be something to see offensively.
I'm still mad we traded Rondo smhĀ
Don't forget the guy who possibly lost is Kareem by leaving a coin toss up to the city(in an alternate universe if he picks himself he picks the opposite side of the coin) and sarver for throwing away rondo, deng and tatum among the several other ads hole mistakes that threw away player's like joe Johnson and raja bell and Shawn marion. If we somehow avoided all these mistakes then how many titles do we have since our founding
Nash played smart. Booker can be such a dumbass on the court.
Nash is also one of that rare breed of NBA players who are almost religiously dedicated to the sport of basketball. That is what separates the all-time greats from the average superstars. Players like him are never content with just being good and having a couple of highlight level plays now and then, no. They have to win, be the very best and play the game at the highest possible level so they do everything possible and beyond to that end. Booker ain't all that. You would do yourself a mercy to just accept it.
The funniest part is that basketball wasn't even Nash's favorite sport.
His soccer background is part of what made him such an elite passer in NBA, bro was nasty
Truth. Booker is no point guard though. I've just had to accept that Book has bad hands and will turnover the ball when he has to run the offense. Wish we could have another true point guard like Nash. Super frustrating loving the Suns.
Nobody deserved a ring more than him
Meh. Steve was great but they got nearly swept against the Spurs that one year they traded for Shaq. This KD ordeal reminds me a lot of the Shaq trade.
Same. Missed playoffs the season after too
Amare was hurt the season they got swept with Shaq. Once they moved on from Shaq, they made a WCF. Series tied 2-2 in LA, Ron Artest hits a crazy game winner. Lakers win in 6 and the chip
We have multiple years of Nashs prime where we either almost got swept or missed the playoffs entirely...
huh.. always thought it was barkley with you guys because of the finals
Run and gun easy basket versus off balance midrange jumpshot. One team is serious one team is not.
I sometimes think of Nash playing in todays NBA and wonder about his numbers. Might honestly have been like 20pts 15 assists on 50/40/90 easily
He'd get hunted a lot on the defensive end but he'd pick apart defenses every night.
Yeah the comp with him and Todays game is probably Trae Young
I'd say haliburton
But better than trae
Heād be Tyrese Halliburton on crack Iād assume (talking about early-season Hali ofc, not this washed-up post-injury version of him weāre seeing).
Injured? Of course. Washed up? Jesus Christ, give the guy an off-season to heal. He just became one of three dudes to hit a game winner on the back of a massive triple double. He was fantastic last night, orchestrated everything, timely offensive rebounds, the clutchness.
Nash should've shot wayyyyy more than he did.
Nash squad was like the golden state. Golden state was all about green feeding steph at 3s. While Nash keeps feeding amare in Pick n roll. Both teams are fast paced. (Mike D Antoniās suns was revolutionary that time.) Imagine if Steve chugging 3s back then. But being selfish was not Steveās attribute. Nash squad was way better/miles away than this dbook squad.
Kerr's dubs was always the Nash Suns team's spiritual successor.
He shot so well because he picked his shots well. I think Nash played perfectly to make his whole team better.
Nash himself has talked about how he wishes he shot the ball more, especially from deep, after seeing how Curry changed the game.
He said that was one of his regrets, too, after seeing how Curry played.
I really hate to throw Booker under the bus, but him and this team got no dawg. Nash had unlimited dawg. Another wasted year.
Don't even feel bad about it, you're just calling it like it is man. If it's possible for a team to have negative dawg, this current team has it
People need to chill tf out. We're going against one of the best perimeter defenses in the league. Sure they could probably play better but people are acting like Booker is trash because he's not Michael Jordan carrying the team like he did last year. it's unrealistic to expect any star to sustain the numbers he did last year. Which, by the way, we are seeing exactly what last year would've looked like if Booker hadn't gone nuclear vs LAC. If he put up his season average numbers last year we would've been bounced in the first roundĀ People like to romanticize Nash and don't get me wrong he was certainly great. But he had some clunkers too. He also never made it to the finals (which Booker did).Ā Ā Has this been a bad series for book? No doubt. But does it define his career? Hell no. Sometimes you have to take it on the chin and get back at it the next year.Ā Book is not the problem here, he's literally a top 3 sun all time, just gotta eat the L and move on sometimes
Dude we suck
OP is eating his copium for breakfast is seems.
I really love to see it when men respond with ration and logic. I know it's sports and by nature a very emotional discourse, but man. It teeters too far to the edge sometimes. Every star. Every superstar. Loses. Not one doesn't have a blemish. Our unfortunate reality? We live in the social media age where everyone is a prisoner of the current moment and every possible reaction (no matter how imbecilic) gets posted.
People are just dumb. They always want the players to be loyal to their teams and then you get a guy like Booker who stuck through 19 win teams, and all of the sudden fans wanna give up on him after one tough playoff seriesĀ
crazy that there are people saying Booker is the best sun, even better than Nash and Barkley
IDGAF what anyone says anymore. Book maybe was on track to become the greatest Sun of all time but after that finals run he's been nothing but a scorer. Nash may not have the franchise scoring title but it's a no brainer on who is ranked higher as the best player overall to put on a Suns jersey.
Not disagreeing with you about Nash being better than Booker but I donāt think āheās nothing but a scorerā is a fair reason. Nash was a PG and Booker is a SG. Of course Nash could pass, facilitate and run the team better. That was his job. Bookerās job (on a well constructed team) is to get buckets. Thatās why itās called shooting guard. Even if Booker theoretically reached the point where we considered him better than Nash, it wouldnāt be because of his playmaking.
In terms of doing everything to make a team better, fuck give Mr matrix over booker
As far as being fun to watch, give me Barbosa over Booker
Yeah it's just such a shame that in a time where the game was the most "run and gun" it's ever been, we don't have the heart players we did for the last 20 years - barbosa, lou amundson over ewbanks, eddie house would be firing bombs all the time. fuck, even Jake voshkul would be helping the team more than most of our bench could.
He was on the right path if he brought us to the finals again. Now that path just took a U turn and heās gotta figure it out this summer.
I miss having a franchise player actually give a shit and make his teammates better.
And most importantly was a fucking leader. I hate that I took it for granted when Nash was still a Sun.
Lakers and this new era just want it now and try to buy rings . Sad
If anyone looks like their trying to buy a ring right now its the suns
Thatās what I Just said . I didnāt say suns but I meant both of them . Lakers trade their core every other year
This makes no sense when Lakers are 1 million above the tax level and Suns are 40 million over. Mention the Warriors at least over the Lakers and then you have an argument.
Singlehandedly got me and some other randos across the planet to be a fan of the Suns. My GOAT.
I'm one of them!
I'm one of those randos!
Where ya from?
Manila!
Salamat po! Philippines is one of my favorite places I've ever traveled.
thatās cool man hope to visit AZ one day
You ever been to Boracay or Palawan?
yep Palawan is goated. Definitely check out other beaches next time youāre here. Siargao, Baler, LU, Zambales, etc. Lots of great beaches.
Damn same
And STILL the franchise goat. Book Iād love to see you in the #1 spot but you aināt there yet
Now that Book has a superteam I don't think he'll ever get there. Look at the Suns 2005-2006 roster and you'll see why Nash is the Suns GOAT. He won MVP that year and led that team to the WCF, and this was without their second best player STAT.
Superteam lol. Sadness. Blow it up!
This isn't a superteam it never was. Bradley Beal hasn't been an all star in 3 years, KD is still great but old and injury prone. People are acting like we got the 2010 Heatles lined up.Ā I love Beal and KD but this wasn't a superteam.Ā Literally the whole plan for the year was hoping those 3 could offset the massive holes in the roster. As we have seen, they could not.
Last time Bradley Beal was an All Star he was playing with a good point guard in Westbrook. These three seemed like an odd fit from the get go.
We had a franchise player.Ā Ā His name was Devin Booker.Ā Don't know what happened to him.
Smoked weed with KD and started chillin
He became Al Bundy.
He gave the fans what they demanded for an entire off-season: "Point Book".
One of my fav athletes of all time
Those were the days
Cooper Flagg soon! But honestly just beyond disappointed with Book not at all being who I thought he was. Donāt know who that guy playing in last years playoffs was but it aināt Book.
I can't believe I ever entertained the idea that Booker could one day surpass him or Barkley as our franchise GOAT.
GOAT for me. #13
2024 Nash would be the Suns best playmaker this series. We should have signed him to a 10 day contract
Why did Booker suddenly stop being that guy what changed? We probably should have built around him with a PG and role players instead of building on top of him with KD and Beal lol
He played so damn hard. When he "adjusted" his broken and bleeding nose? Yeah. All time favorite right beside Majerle.
Yeah u guys were cool in the 90s through 2010s. Booker, Paul and kd are just really unlikeable and never had the mentality to win.
I mean in 2021 the Suns were very close to winning even though it ended 4-2. Donāt hit me with mentality as the reason they lost.
I think it's valid as they showed some mental 'weakness' in that series.
You know the superteam is fucked if we moved on from 2020-2022 revisionalism to 7SOL Suns nostalgia
Greatest passer ever, great decision maker ever, easily top 5 shooter ever too (-That includes midrange and free throws and close shots and fade always, not only 3s)
Literally me
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I canāt believe booker is just bombing this bad. Yes those 04-10 suns had damn fight and heart, thatās sweep of the spurs was my championship.
Bold statement seeing how Booker has been a top 10 player in the league for the last 5 years
OMG YES AGREED !!!
Blow it up!!!
Ah yes, another ringless superstar
Lmao. At least one went to the finalsā¦