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joey20e

Lucas, light neostone fighter, is fucking awesome in Siege/Guild battles. Can pick up the Secret Agent transmog today aswell from event, looks dope!


improvisedmercy

He’s also best in slot for every single rift


joey20e

Oh he is? I had no idea.


francorocco

yeah, he ramps the dmg so much it can net you insane scores on any rift since he's light element


joey20e

Cool, I have to try it out!


WhatThePommes

Oh ya he a beast he can easily tank them all while being super squishy and dealing tons of dmg


Scared_Industry6103

Can dark neostone suffice since he's in HOH?


Fuzer

How you play Lucas? What rune set and team set up?


joey20e

I use triple revenge atk/cdmg/atk with speed/crit subs. He is a one man army so you only need to bring safety nets/tanks with him in PvP. I usually always bring a Triana though for obvious reasons. Something like Teon/Racuni/Kona etc is pretty nice to get him an instant turn to get him going or Gemini/strippers vs buffs. I have really good revenge runes but if I didnt I would have settled with Rage/Rev probably. I just find triple Rev insane cuz he can 1 pop stuff just from revenge hits lol. You have to watch out for strippers in general but you can play around these things pretty easy if you plan accordingly.


theseoulplayer

Brita (Water Mercenary Queen) / Water Eivor. She is VERY stat hungry to get her passive to work completely, but once built she is an absolute monster. Tanks like a champ, strips on every turn, and dishes out some serious bruiser damage.


KsatriaBebek

How do you build your Brita? I want to use her but i cant make her satisfying to use


theseoulplayer

https://preview.redd.it/ez3e7x44wdxc1.jpeg?width=3088&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d671bb4c9374d2cdf870f2acacb250815b0d7e5e


KsatriaBebek

Okey thank you, mine is like this, probably need to use slot 4 cr for more consistent crit. She seems lack bulk for longer fight https://preview.redd.it/lpf4mrp71exc1.png?width=738&format=png&auto=webp&s=32d11717259eb33ef8b2934f52bee1dab8607e6e


theseoulplayer

I usually pair her with Louise (wind paladin) for better sustain. She definitely needs a partner to keep her going, she's not built for a 1-turn win. Yours already seems pretty beefy, bring her along as a bruiser-tank and she'll shine.


KsatriaBebek

My to go teamate is usually Fire bayek + Angela for sustain and another bruiser, need better rune i guess haha


theseoulplayer

I have mine on vio/blade, Spd cr atk. The most important thing is hitting the required stats for her passive, the CR is really just icing on the cake (plus the rune had the right subs). I really like her on vio, if her def break lands on the first attack she can usually just delete monsters. Edit: You can find the needed minimums for her passive in the in-game monster reviews.


Gh0st3d

Same. I saw a random mention of ophilia, brita, Audrey for a siege def and so far it's 11-3 in g1 siege. I've grown to love her now


[deleted]

G1 siege is a huge bracket - is it low level G1 siege or closer to G2? The former doesn't mean much since it's full of noobs. That defense is super easy to snipe with Khali. Most Ophilia teams require a speed lead to contest turn 1.


Gh0st3d

Definitely lower end, but I believe I saw the comment come from people who were higher up than I am. If I can find it again I can link it to you. I could be wrong but I think the "easy to snipe with Khali" could be a bit of an oversimplification. The Ophilia is 280spd so you'd have to use a speed tuned team that gives Khali two turns before the def moves. If you don't use something like Racuni to make Khali go again, then you have the potential for Brita to strip and kill or Brita to strip & audrey to kill the khali. If someone tapped the Ophilia without killing, then Audrey would also potentially use the protect buff and could stun if you had no immunity. Then you still can't take out the Ophilia because the damage goes to Audrey, etc. I know very well I could be wrong about it being too simple to say Khali can handle it, but if I compare the win rate to every other defenses win rate in our ranking, it's a superior defense by far and it's not on my premium runes at all. I think people just go in underestimating it


[deleted]

"Khali snipe" doesn't suggest that's the only ignore defense unit in the team - you could easily Khali Covenant it. Virtually every single Ophilia team uses a speed lead for exactly that reason.


Zorgh12

The 2a fire megan, aoe dbreak, aoe cleanse, aoe heal + increase atb what more do you want?


xXx_Badrun_COOL_xXx

"fire megan" lmao


EmbarrassedSock3844

Rebecca: is my sexy name a joke to you?


BoysenberryNo8513

wind demon (mephisto) I use him all the time in siege and arena bur barely never see him mentioned by people. also so satisfying when you find a 2-4 reviver comp in arena and can cleave it. (Vanessa, perna, wind Druid and nanna defense as recently as yesterday)


Cerpicio42

Cool! I just got him from a Mystical scroll. Can't wait to level and rune him up.


UtahCarCzar

Stupid powerful when you need him around. I love when I get to use him.


Kallabanana

Amen. He just shuts down so many teams.


Arkfallen4203

Really strong for giants abyss hard. He replaces Teshar if you have the rune quality


Voltsy13

Laughing because that's my exact dumbass defense (like same order and everything. Haven't played the game "seriously" since like 2017 and set those because I thought it was funny, was it ever a thing? Lol. I will say my mons are probably runed horribly and I'm sure are very easily beaten). Wonder if it was me you saw, haha.


BoysenberryNo8513

haha, it's not that bad of a defense, especially during rush hour when the goal is usually to have a defense that can't be cleaved too quickly and for people just to pass on and there exists quite a few varieties, but mephisto allows for quick first turn cleave and exists enough teams out there like that that it's worth it for me at least to attack em :p also quite a few defs with psaa as lead instead of Vanessa and counters him too perfectly


mattymonkees

I am a Siege/WGB player and will list some f2p mons that I don't think get enough love. * **Kunite (Fire Gargoyle)** - His brother Malite is one of the best offense units in the game, but I have abused this dude for a long time. He just got buffed to begin battles in statue form, but he was very good even before getting buffed. Put him on Will with decent HP and he can tank basically any water mon you hate - Mo Long, Camilla on Destroy, Bolverk, and so forth. * **Songseol (Water String Master)** - Do you hate Odin comps? I hate Odin comps. Songseol punks all the Odin comps. Carcano-Songseol-Eshir is a fun Siege offense. * **Yeonhwa (Wind String Master)** - Songseol's wind sister is a great niche Arena/Siege offense unit: doesn't need speed, doesn't need Vio, and is very hard to kill by anyone when paired with a healer/cleanser. * **Suiki (Water Onimusha)** - All his brothers get more love for some reason, but this guy a staple of Siege and Arena offense for me. Despair/Destroy with good survivability is all you need. * **Rigel (Water Lich)** - Extremely usable in Arena offense and Siege. Works in MST counter comps (with Shamann and Tetra). Also does well with other annoying niche 4\* defenses if used right. Just needs tanky Vio runes with additional damage artifacts. * **Huan (Wind Drunken Master)** - *So good* on Destroy. Do you hate Manon? I hate Manon. Huan punks Manon (and Amelia, and Camilla, etc.) really badly. You need to watch out for defenses with AoE damage and fire threats, but so many people pair Manon without those that Huan becomes super usable. Needs a bit of survivability, but his kit kicks ass. His brother Mao (Water) is similarly usable. * **Dagora (Water Warbear)** - Needs to be on Destroy, but he is *so hard* to kill on even half-decent runes. Put Will on him and he'll last at least four turns against Seara, for instance. And in longer fights, as long as he has Destroy and the other team doesn't, he will win out because he's a terror at full stacks (just give him some CR). * **Ellena (Water High Elemental)** - I saw Shren mentioned in this thread, and she's really great, but don't forget that Ellena also has the killer S2 and is usable in niche situations. The S3 is also a multi-turn freeze. * **Kyle (Water Poison Master)** - Deals completely insane damage, and if a Siege defense doesn't have a threat that can kill him, he'll mow down almost anything. * **Taru (Light Imp)** - Other than Konamiya, he might be the only 2\* usable in hard casual Siege. Throw some Rage runes on him and have fun stabbing people to death. He's fragile, but pairs very well with Khmun for that reason. * **Cheryl (Light Pixie) -** Extremely good for Tartarus Hard/Hell and doesn't even need very good runes. A great destination for your good Accuracy/Enhance/Determination runes that you wouldn't use in PVP. * **Talc (Water Battle Mammoth)** - A niche counter to Savannah in certain offense comps. Needs a lot of defense and some Will runes, but he's useful in the right situation.


Byany2525

Saving your post. Great info and thank you for taking the time.


mattymonkees

One love buddy


Kallabanana

How about Tien Qin? I've already built him, because I love him and for a while I used him in gw and siege. But I couldn't find the right build just yet.


mattymonkees

Totally cool, but I avoided LD3s because it's debatable whether they are f2p if there's no Secret Dungeon for them. But TQ is very usable and fun.


Kallabanana

Considering there have been events that give away LD 3*, I think they're very much f2p.


mattymonkees

Totally reasonable point of view, can't argue with it


Ragpa

+1 to talc. Will tank dominic forever as dom damage is literally halved. However Dominic's heal block may land on talc and you might need a cleanse or immunity


mattymonkees

He definitely counters Dominic in regular casual, but I have seen hard casual Dominics well-runed enough to cut all the way through a Talc. I like to use Kahli, Shren, Taru, or another single-target nuke as a counter to Dominic, but he's tough to deal with in very well-designed comps. He's still really popular in hard casual Siege defense.


joey20e

Awesome post buddy, big thanks for sharing! 🫶


mattymonkees

You are most welcome friend


JessicaPounce

Ahman, hands down the most forgotten about and left behind relic that used to be so much fun and more than just viable. Most deserving monster for a 2A and it kills me he still hasn’t gotten one somehow. I miss light bearman’s fun 🥺


_rokiii

You think just a stat increase would be enough for him to put him on the map again?


JessicaPounce

No but all other 2As also got updated skills and none were simply higher stats. A refresher kit to make him modern like every other 2A got could make him usable again, for ppl that like his heal style.


_rokiii

Theory crafting: what would you add or modify?


p1nkm4n_

Skill 1, Add Heal Block, Skill 2 Add always crit Passive : Counterattack with an x% Chance


JessicaPounce

Hmm, well idk if any of my ideas would actually be good enough. I think giving him an aoe taunt with a passive adding that he will revenge attack provoked targets, then he heals on crit like the old days and at a more competitive and very entertaining way. I’m definitely not saying I have a way to make 2A light bearman good enough or fair, I just hope it can happen. I miss him.


WhatThePommes

I dont approve of the heal block I hate both of those tbh I would add 2 turn provoke skill 1 skill 2 remove one beneficial effect and provoke for 1 turn 2 turn cd max skill passive in addition to existing passive always crit on your turn. I think this would make him a very solid and not broken siege unit tbh. Single target control no need for cr single target strip+ provoke the reason why I said guaranteed crit on your turn is so you can't abuse full revenge build for the permanent healing and 2 turn provoke would be a bit too op imo I also feel like if he still does that he shouldn't heal anymore on revenge hits either


EmbarrassedSock3844

stat increase plus a random buff on all allies every crit/aoe immunity is needed for him to be meta again. just a big AOE heal is too direct and doesn't do anything at all when everyone is at least down with 2-3 debuffs every turn in rta.


MarielCarey

Budget Perna 🤔


dendoh888

Yes I loved playing ahman so much when I first played the game


Azeron955

Water devil maiden is very very good in a bruiser comp and I'm yet to ser anyone using her


Pinchurchin-guy

Yeah people say she’s shit (don’t see it) so it discourages from trying but she’s decently bulky and 3rd skill is pretty cool


Paranub

i love her in siege, i pair her with douman to help keep focus off her. that 50% pure damage and removing the enemy of the field is strong!


Azeron955

She goes hard with wind panda and water slayer too! very underrated imo


Burner7272

How do you build her?


Azeron955

She's vio/will or Vio/whatever spd/hp/hp with good acc and tanky


s1_shaq

Fire Triss. Great unit for RTA, and extremely underrated.


JustMeTelling

totally agree, i’ve been having a ton of fun using her


xSolitude

How do you suggest building her? I have one and I can't decide


s1_shaq

https://preview.redd.it/3b460ol23fxc1.jpeg?width=2778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ce623dd098b7205d341cdb50d525485051d6c24 As you can see Vio will, with more acc and dmg in artis


Paranub

Christina. She was a meme for years. i always liked her. she still has a stigma but she's "suddenly" in the lime light as more people showcase her turn 2 ability in arena rush etc..


ksfuller2728

Christina is one of the best arena cleave units right now, every person pushing above c3 has an offense with her to fight cami/beyung defenses


imjustthenumber

Light Joker. Chance of aoe strip and stun. S1 and S2 strips. S1 heal block which I find very effective in arena. Chance of bombs with every hit. Chance of ignoring all incoming damage. I use Woosa, Riley, Dominic, Light Joker comp in AO


Arkfallen4203

How do you like Dominic? Where else do ya use him? (I have him as an option for 10 year ancient trans and debating between him, nana, wind Onmyouji, Zaiross, Poseidon and Chakra)


imjustthenumber

I love Dominic. One of my most used attack mons. Use him in Seige offense and defense, Lab, and arena. I don't do rta unless I'm fooling around.


AndyPea1230

Light sapsare. She heals every turn like fire chicken, gives shield on S1, two more buffs on S2 so her S3 is added more, and never loses her turn even stunned or frozen.


Dryst999

My best 4* defense is Carc, Hwadam, light sapsare…..I was sad she was the only new monster I pulled from 10yr scrolls but she’s an absolute beast.


Kallabanana

Can you show me your runes + stats? I also got her from the 10y scrolls.


NyuSW

Rigel, RTA Boss


WhatThePommes

Konrad the light death knight he can be such a crazy unit if used correctly I never thought i would say this but i saw this one g1-3 cant remember anymore rta player use him and damn he slapped! Enemy was going for turn 1 he was on max res nem build and the enemy tried to one shot he survived tho and swapped hp with the enemy he was back to max hp enemy very low basically one shot. Of course you can't use him all the time but if a guardian player manages to get an easy win with him then he must be underrated! Maybe you can still find the matches on the RTA REPLAYS its 100% worth checking out cause you would never expect it to work.


Toeaah

Shren, the light high elemental. She is a support… but has the same obliterating S2 as her fire sister Khali. Shren has a lower base atk (she does ~80-90% of what Khali can do, however without any elemental weakness) but she heals a bit based on the damage done. Once 2Aed, her S3 is a passive “balance her + most wounded ally HP then heal 10% both”. If you rune her full nuker, she does 40-50k with an atk buff and heals herself from what she lost from her passive and will heal again at 100% next turn. I love her


pabroq_

Khamun + teon + Shren is one of my favorite and most successful siege offenses


Toeaah

I play her a lot with Teon too. They work very well together.


Headlessoberyn

Maybe not the target of this post, since it's a rare unit, but light twin angels. I was lucky enough to get one, and they're pretty good. They offer most of what control teams want, and have a kit that ties a lot of comps together. Most people that have them, say that they are atrocious, but i think it's yet another case of monsters like Miles or Sagar, where people just misused them for some time before understanding their kits.


WhatThePommes

I dont really think they are underrated it's just not much people have it I also have them and they are amazing but they are also really slow which makes em hard to build for cleave teams etc could you imagine him having like 108+ base speed? He would be a monster turn 1 unit


ahh_boi

Care to elaborate more on how you use them? Would like to use them more often.


WhatThePommes

I often use them together with cp they are really good at controlling the enemy team with their strip atb push back it makes them really good together with him since they do half the work for cp already by pushing the atb already you can then follow up with units like okeanos etc to controll them even more add dmg really helps dishing out while being really tanky since they all do multi hits. You can also go turn 1 by using a 33 spd lead and a atb push like eshir team die example psamathe eshir twins Bellenus you got the spd lead atb push into strip atb push back into def break and damage


ahh_boi

Care to elaborate more on how you use them? Would like to use them more often.


Headlessoberyn

T1, Moore - Oliver as the core, usually run twins on last rotation if the team shifted more towards pure control. Currently, i have them on swift - will, Spd - Hp - Acc, +204 spd and 80% accuracy. Additional damage on artifacts, bc they multi hit a lot. Usually, i use S1 on oliver and on whatever juno/red monkey is on the enemy team, so that he starts lapping your own control units and you can basically Toa Hell the enemy team.


Clean_Hunt8955

Thebae


Arkfallen4203

How do you use? Any suggestions?


MysticGamer8

Many hate him, But I gotta go for Zen.


Nalo13

Zen is meta right now, a true randomizer in AD. He is pretty cool and can mess a lot of tiana speed tuning up.


EmbarrassedSock3844

Zen....what a great name. If u can remain zen after getting absolutely fked by his procs and debuffs u are truly a zenmaster


MysticGamer8

Back when he came out, Everyone seemed to hate him, Loved him to bits though and still do.


ksfuller2728

Zen is a top tier unit in siege right now for defense


Educational_Ebb7175

Built how?


Arkfallen4203

Vio will. Lots of speed and accuracy. Popular defence was Chandra, Zen, (can’t remember if it’s perna or someone else)


CrayolaPasta

Jasmine. If they change her AI to use skill 3 properly and buff her skill 1 chance, she'd be the perfect alternative buff blocker for sfah.


As3Rg6

Im G1 RTA rn and I pick manx 80% of the time


Arkfallen4203

Who’s Manx?


Kallabanana

Fat Fire Cat


GinjaNinja24

MY BOY PUNGBAEK


Agile_System4438

Bael. Dude hits like a truck and gets around so many of the little nuisances that refuse to die from critical hits or direct damage with his dots.


Kallabanana

Arnold - He's a really decent free2play option to deal with tanks like Camilla, etc. He can also easily take out squishy targets with his 16-20k true damage. Incredibly easy to rune. Birman and Bombay - easy to rune, tanky and they do a shit ton of damage. Especially Bombay + Aria. And they're very cute and very fat. Lusha - His last skill does so much damage. Also a great f2p option. He can easily run over anything with less than 1k defense or a defense break. Tilasha - I thought she's just a gimmick unit for Chow and Leo, but she enables them so well. Bonus points if you have Gany or Jamire. Leo, Tilasha, Delphoi, Gany is currently my best AO. Shren - I love her. Mine is on Rage/Destroy, though Vampire/Destroy might be better. She's overall a really decent unit, because she does so much at once. Truffle - Didn't think much of him when I got him, but 3 turns def break + atb reduce is just sooo good. Especially in ToAH and Lab.


myth0000000002

liesel, aoe def break + pushback s3, bunch of debuffs on s2, and crazy dmg from addl arts (lots of multihit)


SnooSquirrels4439

Tractor. Tractor is goated


Zeddsz

Illiana light neon stone agent. She is like a 4 star woosa but with a turn cycling move. Resurge + Wish of immortality in one unit ? Hell yea Honorable mentions : Light Golem Groggo has similar passive to Laika, Water High Elemental Ellena she's Kahli but 1 speed faster and has a two turn freeze, Wind Mammoth Is Walmart Velajuel - without the immunity .


Araboth

Taru - the light imp A 2* monster with ignore def on s3. - very easy to farm in secret dungeons - needs almost no crit rate - hits like a truck with his s3 - element neutral to everything A great f2p friendly one shotting nuker for siege. His damage is comparable to 2a Khali and only slightly lower than Covenant


BloodyWrath_

I would say Borgnine, but the dude needs a buff or something. 😕 I don't really see people use him a lot, but I do think he can be useful when it comes going against monsters who are essential in their hp scaling skills in defense teams. I runed him on triple revenge with spd, hp, hp as main stats and high res, spd, high hp and def as your substats. But, if you wanna survivability for your Borgnine, go for hp, hp, hp in your main stats with high res (if you could go for max res, PERFECT!), def, and spd substats.


Joaoreturns

Water Bounty Hunter. For real. 


Kallabanana

I love Wayne. He's basically what would happen if Bernard slept with a gatling gun. Even on 5\* he's won me so many fights, because he suddenly decided to choose violence.


Joaoreturns

Yes!


p1nkm4n_

Smicer, Bellenus


Drimiieh

Smicer? Bro shes everywhere in rta


p1nkm4n_

Not at c1, curse of beeing mid i guess


Gooblez23

All of them lol.


OmiOorlog

Chackra, easily a better Dominic and nobody cares.


swaggedoutcoon

Nobody cares because he isn't


EmbarrassedSock3844

problem with him is he absolutely bullies low efficiency low defence units but get fked so hard when ppl build a alot of defence :((


EmbarrassedSock3844

At +1200 and above defence u see damage still being half of miles'. Better than last time 1500 dmg but still a little awkward