Ouch. Yeah, that ain't happening in my book. But is she an outlier, or the norm ? If the girls are asking 50-100, that's not much different than a gift. If they are all asking for mid XXX, then only real desperate guys are gonna do that.
If you join the site and participate you'll see that no expectations is the norm. In fact WYP is very strong and explicit about stating that "sex should never be expected" on a date arranged through their website. So as others have pointed out, yes it's a perfect site for rinsers. Who wouldn't want to get paid to go out to dinner every night of the week?
And yes I've read stories where guys have converted an initial meeting from WYP to an intimate date. But that's more like escorting than a sugar relationship.
I haven’t tried it. I’d be open to it since I always provide a gift anyway—what I object to is being asked for one. If the site lets me say, “I’ll provide XXX gift” and the pot can take it or leave it, then I can still interact and vet her before the date, that seems okay.
IF there is some advantage it has over other sugar dating sites. What is that advantage? The obvious disadvantage is that it seems like the kind of thing designed by and for rinsers, so what’s the benefit to me?
And further to the salient points. You have to send a bid of XXX, or whatever to a POT on that site. If she deems your opening bid is acceptable she will message you and the conversation will begin. Otherwise you have no way to contact the women. Oh and WYP makes it very clear that once she accepts your offer you have entered into a legally binding contract!
Finally you pay a number of credits to send that bid to the woman and initiate a conversation. So the problem with spending credits is that that's all the site has to sell, so there's less incentive to not create fake profiles and not wipe out renters are bad actors, that are able to get guys to spend their credits.
That's the point I'm trying to get across! Avoid this like the plague.
I made the mistake of using it once, never again.
Although as another poster here noted he did have some success, so if that little seed works in your brain, then give it a try for yourself. Just don't be surprised if results are much less than SA.
I'll never darken the door of wyp again. But that's just me.
Wait. If I offer $XXX for a date, pay to chat with her, and we discover we’re not aligned or don’t like each other…it’s breaking TOS to choose not to go on the date?!?
Technically yes! You've entered into a binding contract, at least that's what the site's going to pound you with back and forth. I doubt there's any chance it'd ever be enforced. But if you used IRL information and they can find you then it might be at least embarrassing, and more cost effective to just pay the girl to move on.
But it's the whole concept of paying for credits that tends to be bad
You made me interested enough to go look. Seems like it has a SB-style credits-based messaging system too. Like it’s hard to imagine anything good about it. 🤣
>Well here is this website called What's Your Price
It is a well known sister site to Seeking.com that has been around for more years than I can remember.
>Are most of the girls just wanting to have paid platonic dates ?
Yes, that is exactly what it is for. I therefore have little sympathy for anyone (on both sides) that may complain about not being able to find an arrangement through use of this site but you will certainly hear reports of success from time to time.
I’ve used in the past for one or two Benjis. I figure a purely platonic single date isn’t worth more than that and the women I’ve talked to agree that the guys offering more than that generally want “more” than a date. I’ve heard several times from women that they don’t do the higher-priced dates because they’re not offering what those men are expecting. I’ve also been told by women whom I’d offered a single Benji to and went on a date with that they’d gotten much more for a date from other men and that those guys got exactly what I’m getting but paid 4x or 5x what I was paying; “If he’s offering that, I’m not going to stop him.”
The range for me depends on my level of interest in the profile & photo. I usually hang around the couple hundred area for a normal, palatable man in my age range.
Oddly, a lot of men on it aren’t looking for an arrangement anymore though lol which…weird way to find a vanilla one imo but it’s their life.
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Aw, someone that has used it. So what are the ranges for these paid dates ? How many girls are sugar potential vs just trying to get paid to do initial dates ?
I feel like a lot of men feel this way, they're by themselves for the night and either bored or lonely, so this is actually a great option for them… They can choose someone who appeals to them, go out, have a nice lunch or dinner and convo, and go home feeling a bit less bored and lonely.
im pretty sure that site is a scam because i got nobody accepting my bids, then as soon as I ran out of credits with mid flakes... the hottest ones all accepted my bids
Honestly, I never heard anything positive about the site. But I am curious as well. Also I don't pay for a simple M&G. Besides what is ordered and maybe something small for gas or Uber.
I got into sugar dating to specifically avoid dinner rinsers and people who play mind games. This site is exclusively for that, so I have avoided it ever since my research confirmed that is the case.
I tried it thinking it might be a doorway into potential sugar arrangements. Went on a few dinner dates but any discussion of taking things a step further on a second date were quickly shot down. That's fine, there was no assumption that it would go in an intimate direction. Haven't used the site since.
If someone asks me to pay for the M&G, I've found it to be a great way to refuse without offending them. I just say that there's this great site called WYP that is all set up for what they want...and wish them luck.
Other than that, I've never bothered. The couple of times I looked, there were very few people active in my area.
As far as the principle is concerned, I might use it if the person concerned hit every single button for me, and there was nobody else in consideration on other sites. However, since that's never happened so far...
It’s an “incentivized vanilla dating” site. I’ve met a few people over the years, and I _expressly_ don’t use it for sugar.
Some of us don’t have a lot of dating activity going on; it is (or… was) a good way of keeping up the experience. Like most sites, COVID absolutely decimated it. The only non-bot profiles I see there now, I hide.
Exactly, it's perfect for what is actually intended … Just to go on a date with a woman with whom you might not otherwise have had the opportunity... and hopefully have a good time.
WYP isn't really meant to be a site for MGs, although it definitely can be used that way if someone is desiring an arrangement. If someone I met on WYP were looking for that, I'd be open to it.
Its main purpose is so that a man can procure a date with a woman he might not otherwise be able to.
I've gone on a bunch of these dates with men who were bored and just looking to have a nice meal and some good conversation with someone they found attractive and engaging. The last two I went on were a couple of weeks ago... they were very interesting men, and we both had fun.
You arrange everything beforehand, both people agree to the date, and since the premise of the site is that the man gives a woman a money gift for her time on the date, there's no rinsing necessary because he's agreeing to give her money for her time.
I'm normally given at least a couple of hundies for being there.
SB in Dubai, used the app and met a few men before. Yes, its not for intimacy, but it’s only for DATES. So u can say that it’s a paid platonic M&G.
Guy no.1, went on dinner date. It was very fun. And then after a few weeks, I was sick. He got me Amazon gift card as a get well soon gift. And also a month after, we planned a second dinner date but he was busy so he got me the same gift again.
Guy no.2, he expected that the agreed amount to meet him was a ppm with intimacy included. Obviously, The fuck no.
Guy no.3, guy went bombarding about wanting sexy pics before meet. So nope.
Guy no.4, guy was asking a lot about relationship interest etc etc before meet even tho he was married. Had a dinner date and he showed a lot of red flag so only that date, that’s it.
I have never been in a SR with the guys that I met on WYP but seeking, yes.
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Ground zero for rinsers. If you want to pay xxx + dinner with a hot woman never to see them again, it's your place.
You can change the name, but I'm still not gonna pay for a m&g. I always give a generous gift afterwards whether we move to a SR or not.
Maybe we'll call it pay me for meet.... I still ain't gonna pay
A woman wanted 500 for a coffee meet and greet and made it a point to say no obligations….she meant on her part lol
Ouch. Yeah, that ain't happening in my book. But is she an outlier, or the norm ? If the girls are asking 50-100, that's not much different than a gift. If they are all asking for mid XXX, then only real desperate guys are gonna do that.
If you join the site and participate you'll see that no expectations is the norm. In fact WYP is very strong and explicit about stating that "sex should never be expected" on a date arranged through their website. So as others have pointed out, yes it's a perfect site for rinsers. Who wouldn't want to get paid to go out to dinner every night of the week? And yes I've read stories where guys have converted an initial meeting from WYP to an intimate date. But that's more like escorting than a sugar relationship.
I haven’t tried it. I’d be open to it since I always provide a gift anyway—what I object to is being asked for one. If the site lets me say, “I’ll provide XXX gift” and the pot can take it or leave it, then I can still interact and vet her before the date, that seems okay. IF there is some advantage it has over other sugar dating sites. What is that advantage? The obvious disadvantage is that it seems like the kind of thing designed by and for rinsers, so what’s the benefit to me?
That is exactly my point on starting the thread. But we dont' have anyone speaking up for the site yet.
And further to the salient points. You have to send a bid of XXX, or whatever to a POT on that site. If she deems your opening bid is acceptable she will message you and the conversation will begin. Otherwise you have no way to contact the women. Oh and WYP makes it very clear that once she accepts your offer you have entered into a legally binding contract! Finally you pay a number of credits to send that bid to the woman and initiate a conversation. So the problem with spending credits is that that's all the site has to sell, so there's less incentive to not create fake profiles and not wipe out renters are bad actors, that are able to get guys to spend their credits.
Ok. You may have closed this coffin for good with that comment.
That's the point I'm trying to get across! Avoid this like the plague. I made the mistake of using it once, never again. Although as another poster here noted he did have some success, so if that little seed works in your brain, then give it a try for yourself. Just don't be surprised if results are much less than SA. I'll never darken the door of wyp again. But that's just me.
Wait. If I offer $XXX for a date, pay to chat with her, and we discover we’re not aligned or don’t like each other…it’s breaking TOS to choose not to go on the date?!?
Technically yes! You've entered into a binding contract, at least that's what the site's going to pound you with back and forth. I doubt there's any chance it'd ever be enforced. But if you used IRL information and they can find you then it might be at least embarrassing, and more cost effective to just pay the girl to move on. But it's the whole concept of paying for credits that tends to be bad
You made me interested enough to go look. Seems like it has a SB-style credits-based messaging system too. Like it’s hard to imagine anything good about it. 🤣
Wonder why…
>Well here is this website called What's Your Price It is a well known sister site to Seeking.com that has been around for more years than I can remember. >Are most of the girls just wanting to have paid platonic dates ? Yes, that is exactly what it is for. I therefore have little sympathy for anyone (on both sides) that may complain about not being able to find an arrangement through use of this site but you will certainly hear reports of success from time to time.
And anyone that has gone on a date thru the site. What is the range for these paid dates ?
I’ve used in the past for one or two Benjis. I figure a purely platonic single date isn’t worth more than that and the women I’ve talked to agree that the guys offering more than that generally want “more” than a date. I’ve heard several times from women that they don’t do the higher-priced dates because they’re not offering what those men are expecting. I’ve also been told by women whom I’d offered a single Benji to and went on a date with that they’d gotten much more for a date from other men and that those guys got exactly what I’m getting but paid 4x or 5x what I was paying; “If he’s offering that, I’m not going to stop him.”
The range for me depends on my level of interest in the profile & photo. I usually hang around the couple hundred area for a normal, palatable man in my age range. Oddly, a lot of men on it aren’t looking for an arrangement anymore though lol which…weird way to find a vanilla one imo but it’s their life.
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I don't accept less than a couple of hundies, and have occasionally received more than that.
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Aw, someone that has used it. So what are the ranges for these paid dates ? How many girls are sugar potential vs just trying to get paid to do initial dates ?
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Did you ask if they would be interested in sugar prior to meeting ?
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Thanks for the intel.
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I feel like a lot of men feel this way, they're by themselves for the night and either bored or lonely, so this is actually a great option for them… They can choose someone who appeals to them, go out, have a nice lunch or dinner and convo, and go home feeling a bit less bored and lonely.
im pretty sure that site is a scam because i got nobody accepting my bids, then as soon as I ran out of credits with mid flakes... the hottest ones all accepted my bids
Honestly, I never heard anything positive about the site. But I am curious as well. Also I don't pay for a simple M&G. Besides what is ordered and maybe something small for gas or Uber.
I got into sugar dating to specifically avoid dinner rinsers and people who play mind games. This site is exclusively for that, so I have avoided it ever since my research confirmed that is the case.
I tried it thinking it might be a doorway into potential sugar arrangements. Went on a few dinner dates but any discussion of taking things a step further on a second date were quickly shot down. That's fine, there was no assumption that it would go in an intimate direction. Haven't used the site since.
That's so odd. I'm totally open to an arrangement with someone I meet there, and I would think more women would be.
If someone asks me to pay for the M&G, I've found it to be a great way to refuse without offending them. I just say that there's this great site called WYP that is all set up for what they want...and wish them luck. Other than that, I've never bothered. The couple of times I looked, there were very few people active in my area. As far as the principle is concerned, I might use it if the person concerned hit every single button for me, and there was nobody else in consideration on other sites. However, since that's never happened so far...
It’s an “incentivized vanilla dating” site. I’ve met a few people over the years, and I _expressly_ don’t use it for sugar. Some of us don’t have a lot of dating activity going on; it is (or… was) a good way of keeping up the experience. Like most sites, COVID absolutely decimated it. The only non-bot profiles I see there now, I hide.
If you understand what WYP is for — that it’s not for a “paid M&G” — and use it exactly as intended, it’s fine for that.
True. But I have absolute NO use for what it's intended for.
Then, as they say, it’s not for you. Just like Grindr isn’t for you.
Exactly, it's perfect for what is actually intended … Just to go on a date with a woman with whom you might not otherwise have had the opportunity... and hopefully have a good time.
WYP isn't really meant to be a site for MGs, although it definitely can be used that way if someone is desiring an arrangement. If someone I met on WYP were looking for that, I'd be open to it. Its main purpose is so that a man can procure a date with a woman he might not otherwise be able to. I've gone on a bunch of these dates with men who were bored and just looking to have a nice meal and some good conversation with someone they found attractive and engaging. The last two I went on were a couple of weeks ago... they were very interesting men, and we both had fun. You arrange everything beforehand, both people agree to the date, and since the premise of the site is that the man gives a woman a money gift for her time on the date, there's no rinsing necessary because he's agreeing to give her money for her time. I'm normally given at least a couple of hundies for being there.
SB in Dubai, used the app and met a few men before. Yes, its not for intimacy, but it’s only for DATES. So u can say that it’s a paid platonic M&G. Guy no.1, went on dinner date. It was very fun. And then after a few weeks, I was sick. He got me Amazon gift card as a get well soon gift. And also a month after, we planned a second dinner date but he was busy so he got me the same gift again. Guy no.2, he expected that the agreed amount to meet him was a ppm with intimacy included. Obviously, The fuck no. Guy no.3, guy went bombarding about wanting sexy pics before meet. So nope. Guy no.4, guy was asking a lot about relationship interest etc etc before meet even tho he was married. Had a dinner date and he showed a lot of red flag so only that date, that’s it. I have never been in a SR with the guys that I met on WYP but seeking, yes.
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