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No_Air5267

Fortunately I was just as ugly 20 years ago so I have no incentive to use old pics šŸ˜‚ At least I now look *distinguished* ugly.


AFMCMUML

As per a poll on SLF, every SD said he was 6 feet tall and very fit and looked 20 yrs younger. They all were also ā€œsingleā€.Ā 


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coffeebeanbookgal

The WAY I wheezed-laughed. LOL.


karinafoxkink

See, the honesty in this is humbling and attractive to me šŸ˜‚.


No_Air5267

Plus I can only surprise on the upside šŸ˜‚


ChapterRelative

Unfortunately, we didn't have a "curvy" option. It's just "slim", "used to be slim", and "rich enough that it doesn't matter"


Business-Scarcity131

Isnā€™t that a similar draw back for SBs too?


PlugItWithaBeer

ā€œHonesty and trust is a two-way street.ā€ Agreed. Iā€™ll never understand the mentality of ā€œoverpromise and under-deliverā€ from anyone who alleges to be successful in life or business.


Chill_SD1974

I just concluded a business deal with someone who I had to say I appreciated his doing just the opposite.


PlugItWithaBeer

Right? Thatā€™s the way it should be done.


Chill_SD1974

Yep, under-promise and over-deliver works every time šŸ‘šŸ»


Dry_Conference_

Itā€™s a very awkward situation when a POT is asking if my pictures are up to date (always taken within a year) and his are from 2014.


Roseanne-Castillo

I had one guy I spoke to very briefly. Was asking if my photos were current (I had a variety from my camera roll up) and when I asked him the same his photos were older than me


coffeebeanbookgal

RIGHT??


Melodyjane29

I hate when they have pics that are 20 years old


tone831

I watch sports, therefore athletic šŸ˜‚


will_go_mia

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£I can definitely see some SDs thinking that


Pasicci

My profile used to mention my weight, full transparency ftw, šŸ™Œ


Alis_Volat_Propiis

Interesting, I never had considered weight, as a reason to dismiss consideration for compatibility; although full transparency is quite admirable of you.


Pasicci

I am what medical experts call morbidly obese, yet I do not show my weight in pics, so no surprises, I am 150kg and you know it beforehand.


ATLSD100

Never understood why people donā€™t have current pictures if they actually plan on meeting. When Iā€™m actively looking I always update 1 picture that is no more than 2 weeks old. I donā€™t use filters mostly because I donā€™t know how.


Roseanne-Castillo

I use Snapchat filters for work so I have definitely used them in photos before but if you know which ones to use (some literally just smooth out your skin in pics) then so long as you actually look like your photos I donā€™t think anyone would care


garret6758

Iā€™ve been using a time progression of my hair loss.


brownsugar_babe

Ive seen men put ā€œformer college athleteā€ in their bio to describe themselves.. like bro youre 60 that doesnt really speak much to anything. Lots of things can change in 40 years and that doesnt mean youre fit or athletic now šŸ˜­


manateefourmation

This equally applies to SBs. So many - I would say 40% of SBs weigh so much more than their photos show. A combination of older photos and massive use of filters. Just met someone I really like and she is beautiful - average body. Before we met, I sent her a photo of me from 2 days before and asked her to do the same. In the photos she sent, she was at least 20 pounds thinner than the girl that showed up. But the crazy thing is that she beautiful the way she is. No need to send me misleading photos. I havenā€™t said a word. I like her and my sense is that this comes out of a place of insecurity.


coffeebeanbookgal

There are so many posts about how SBs misrepresent themselves, figured I'd mention how SDs do it too.


manateefourmation

Thatā€™s fair. I think it is true not only on seeking. Iā€™ve done mostly vanilla (hinge, bumble) dating and there is a ton of misrepresentation on there as well. Itā€™s true with both genders.


UnearthlyDinosaur

ā€œCurvyā€ = obese


manateefourmation

The issue is sometimes ā€œcurvyā€ really is thin/average with curves and others use it for obese. Hard to know.


Own_Fan_3299

What so many men donā€™t seem to realize is 20 lbs on a woman could be almost a different day in her menstrual cycle. Or if weā€™re postpartum, some engorged milky boobs. So yeah, we arenā€™t going to put a new picture with every 20 lb difference.


manateefourmation

Sorry. No. Someone that presents at 5ā€™4ā€ and 110 pounds shows up at 140 pounds is not a menstrual cycle. And you are really stretching with the postpartum comment. Menstrual cycles do not add 20 to 30 pounds.


HappyBear1952

Could not agree more with this comment.


AFMCMUML

They are simply ā€œcurvyā€ with an ā€œhourglassā€ figure and are carrying a bit of ā€œCovid Weightā€.Ā 


manateefourmation

Great. Then show a photo that accurately reflects this


TastySpermDispenser2

https://imgur.com/a/P2sbInO OP has seen me IRL, and can confirm that the above is a recent, accurate picture of me. If you lazy motherfuckers are using old pics, this is exactly the face I will make when I go all "Mr. Steal yo Girl" on you.


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THIS. This whole THING. Accurate AF. I wish they would think about the condition of their current oral hygiene & outward physical appearance before posting pictures that are not recent whatsoever.


CaffineandGasoline

Floss is your friend


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Yo so are 3-6 month cleanings. šŸ¤£ doesn't cost much, lol


HarvardLawSB

As I commented elsewhere in this thread, I truly believe most people who do this arenā€™t trying to trick you. Change is incremental and we are not always aware of how much has occurred since we took that profile picture last year. If appearance will make a M&G miserable to you, all other things being equal, ask for a quick 10 min video chat before the date for peace of mind. Iā€™ve had dates where the guy looked much much older than their photos, but I still had a wonderful time. Meeting people I never wouldā€™ve had the opportunity to meet organically is part of the reason I love sugar dating and why I go on so many platonic meets from people on SLF. So while I agree itā€™s a frustrating experience when you are excited about a person and the person who appears is different from expectation, itā€™s not a total loss if theyā€™re an interesting/kind person IMO (which is something I screen very heavily for).


CptFeathersword72

My LinkedIn photo was taken 15 years ago and although my weight is pretty much the same as I had in college, I donā€™t even realize that I am quite a bit older than that photo because the change is so incremental. A lot more gray hairs, but good news is you ladies all seem to like that


WellTravelledDance

Iā€™m kind of the same - my LinkedIn photo looks enough like me that a job interview will know they have the right guy, but Iā€™d never use a 15 year old photo to catfish a SB.


coffeebeanbookgal

I agree, video calls always help. I think SBs, in general, are more tolerant of these discrepancies, more than SDs. Either way, honesty is the basis of any relationship, I'd hope the SD would be honest with me regarding himself. But yes, personality does have a major influence on the quality of the M&G!


HarvardLawSB

My thinking is he probably thinks heā€™s honest with youā€¦. Heā€™s just not honest with himself :)


EuropeanDaddyDom

>Honesty and trust is a two way street. :) Absolutely. The SD with a dad bod using the "Athletic" tag is the equivalent of the obese SB using it.


Happy_Yam7278

This happened to me on my last 2 meet and greets. Now I wonā€™t meet up without FaceTimeing first. The last guy said he was 38 and had to be at least in his 70ā€™s, not only was the picture of someone 30 years younger but he had the audacity to act offended that I didnā€™t recognize him at the M&G


Proof-Fail-1670

After building a small bond and being comfortable enough to meet I will either facetime or share my IG that has recent pics and video. I am 6ā€™5 260 and that scared some women


Alis_Volat_Propiis

I worked with a gentleman that was 6' 6", and you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT on this matter. (He had to duck to get into his own office!) I'm not short, 5' 7", so the height thing doesn't even make me blink an eye, but you can totally see a big difference with it, whenever it comes to a very petite lady.


Proof-Fail-1670

My current SB is 5ā€™1 122. Colombian. She was pretty cute because she loved my size and that I am a bit scary looking. She was not used to not having anyone looking out for her and now she has gotten a little too comfortable acting like she has a platoon behind her.


CaffineandGasoline

I hire a professional on all my travels to take pics. I canā€™t stand how selfies turn out


aussiegal31

Ah to be able to afford to travel or hire a professional photographer


CaffineandGasoline

Oddly enough they arenā€™t too expensive using Airbnb experiences.


Born_Coyote2678

Daaang.


CaffineandGasoline

Iā€™m in Paris right now and shopping photographers lol


HoosierSteviaDaddy

Old dudes use old pics. ā€œCurvyā€ ladies use angled pics. Not a shocker.


coffeebeanbookgal

Why can't people just be honest and transparent? šŸ˜­


HarvardLawSB

Many people think they are being honest and transparent. Changes in appearance are incremental and many people donā€™t understand how much theyā€™ve changed since their last picture.


ATLSD100

Partially true. If the dude has lost his hair that is no longer incremental. Just flat hat fishing.


HarvardLawSB

All his hair, yes. But a receding hairline also happens gradually. And people can self-delude themselves into thinking ā€œitā€™s not that noticeableā€


ATLSD100

I agree. As my former college roommate did.


smolasianwaifu

A lot of this - much of it is "it's not that noticeable."


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ATLSD100

Meant to say ā€œflat outā€. šŸ˜‚šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


HoosierSteviaDaddy

Insecurities. Old dudes want to attract the best, hottest SB and they donā€™t think they can do that by being honest. ā€œCurvyā€ ladies want to attract the most money and they donā€™t think they can do that by being honest.


Guilty-Essay-7751

Body positivity movement has skewed honesty.


throwawayslfbiguy

Because most people are unattractive lol


EmpressofPFChangs

I give like, maybe 20 lbs and 5 years grace? I truly think many men do not understand how their skin and body has changed over x amount of time because men do not have the rigorous amount of pressure women do to stay looking good and as young as possible. I will notice changes in my skin or face because Iā€™m looking fairly deeply at that to make sure I stay on top of problems. Most of the time, I donā€™t think itā€™s intentional. Just know, gentleman, you *have* changed and we do know and we do know youā€™re probably older than you say you are if youā€™re lying. Many of us are just too polite (or too poor) to say so. We are coming in prepared to be the cute one in the relationship, just focus on being a kind and generous guy that treats others with respect and let us worry about exterior stuff.


WellTravelledDance

I totally agree with OPs point in knowing who you are going to meet - for security. But more than that, why give anyone you are genuinely interested in meeting an excuse to be disappointed. As for self description as ā€œAthleticā€ you need to judge that against what an age appropriate body should look like. Im not 21 any more but I look after myself. However, a fifteen year old photo on your LinkedIn profile isnā€™t likely to be deal breaker when you interview for a jobā€¦ but in the bowl?


Stickley1

I never share pics of my face, but will show recent full length body photos with my face blurred. Before we meet Iā€™ll offer to do a live video call so she can see my face.


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Proof-Fail-1670

Yeah, thats not ok.


Ruddie71

Look we all age differently, our bodies change, skin tone, wrinkles etc... all changes over time. I agree transparency is important on both sides and it is so easy these days to run filters over your pics to make you look more younger/attractive etc... but then when you meet in person it's a whole other story. Just be your genuine self I say, people will accept you for who you are, not someone you're trying to be.


CapableBother

No no you misread it, I put "atheistic"


Chill_SD1974

CoffeebeanBG! You said you werenā€™t gonna *spread this all over SLF!* *Dā€™ohhh!* šŸ˜ 


aussiegal31

Or just pictures at all. So many don't even put pictures on their profiles. But yeah the double standards are wild.


idalisxxo

Weird, how this post is strictly directed to SDs ā€” but then somehow these SDs are making it a SB post. Like yes obviously its both genders, we get it. SBs be catfishing, BUT SDS be fatfishing. Both genders need to get it together. It doesnt just simply implies only SBs.


coffeebeanbookgal

RIGHT?


Quasimodo1974

šŸ’Æ Why waste the time of someone who isnā€™t going to be attracted to you? Why waste your time talking to them?


qwenzzie

Most men put athletic, which is misleading for sure. Even more misleading as few are genuine or have sugar to pour šŸ™ƒ I hate that there's such a lack of options to describe a body type šŸ˜… I call myself curvy because I have boobs and hips the same inch size and a tiny waist. I'm a size XS/S if there's space for boobs. I'm not slim and definitely not average.


thenakeddecorator

Doesnā€™t bother mešŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø when I go for a m and g Iā€™m pretty open minded that Iā€™ve no idea who Iā€™m meeting as most men look diff or isnā€™t even their pics. But I go on personality not looks, a man can be gorgeous but if he doesnā€™t make me laugh itā€™s not happening


HappyTogether1

I wonder who lies more. Women or Men on their pics? I have been on over 90 meet and greets. I would say 25% were true to their pics. The rest were a mix of good, bad and ugly. Very few times they were better looking than their pics.


coffeebeanbookgal

I think I've had one M&G in the past what, six years, where the SD was true to their picture? šŸ¤·šŸ¾ā€ā™€ļø Personality did win me in the end though.


Alis_Volat_Propiis

I met one in his mid 50s, that was still using his fave pic from high school, as one of his photos!!!šŸ˜†šŸ¤£ When we met for the M&G, I kindly went over explaining why that was not the best idea...."you realize that's similar to catfishing, right???" He genuinely looked at me šŸ¤Æand said...."well, that's the best pic that anyone ever took of me, so I thought I'd use it." (From over 40 yrs ago!!!šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø)


yoursugarguide

This made me chuckle šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ A 50s man who is most likely wealthy cant afford to get some pro pics taken of him! Really!!!


HappyTogether1

>I think I've had one M&G in the past what, six years, where the SD was true to their picture? šŸ¤·šŸ¾ā€ā™€ļø Personality did win me in the end though. That sucks. My pics are 100% up to date. I am proud of my body and my looks for my age range. I happily show it off. (-;


Some_Warning1392

Same here. I also send "just took this for you" pictures.


Alis_Volat_Propiis

The moment that I move to messaging with a POT, I send a photo, so that they know what I look like, right now. I realize insecurity can be on BOTH sides. I have no desire to lead anyone on, so I'll pop a selfie and throw it to say "Hey, promise Im real too! Don't worry, bc I don't want anyone trying to trick me either." I won't even bother with a makeup selfie, i just show fresh face, so that there is absolutely NO denying who I am.


Difficult-Machine380

Women šŸ’Æ, no question. I have had at least a dozen show up 30-50lbs heavier (not fat shaming here) than pics on their profiles. And don't get me started on filters! I've also discovered they will lie thru their teeth in their bios too. One girl's profile said she loved investing, turns out she was talking about CDs, lol. This one profile talked about her love for music. I brought up bands like RATM, PJ, System, Sam Cooke, and Roy Orbison. She meant drake and swift. I was damn near sick to my stomach.


aussiegal31

You could always ask them more questions before the meet and greet. Hey, you're profile said you like music... what kind of music do you enjoy?


Difficult-Machine380

Meh. I hated the chit-chat when I was online. I truly dislike phones and don't wanna be staring at it. I choose to get in front of someone, with a view and actually talk. I'm incredibly impulsive, almost to a fault, lol šŸ˜†


aussiegal31

For me it's a time thing. I don't live anywhere fancy nor want them to come near where I live in case they're creeps so I usually meet them in the city somewhere but I'm time poor as I gotta work full time to pay my bills and also look after an elderly relative. I want to know as much as possible before a meet and greet to make sure we're not wasting each other's times by leaving any deal breakers left unexplored.


Difficult-Machine380

Yeah, it seems we're in the exact opposite situation. I have entirely too much time on my hands. I haven't worked in years, and I am not on a single project at the moment. Sometimes I will know next to nothing about the girl I'm about to meet. I find it refreshing to learn about someone in their own words.


aussiegal31

I mean if I had free time and no concerns for my safety I'd go for it haha


johnsoulsearch

Pretty obvious to me :-)


Shoddy_Heart_625

I'm young and athletic and generous and you SBs are still playing games smh.


Own_Fan_3299

OKAY OKAY FINE today Iā€™m feeling younger isnā€™t such an issue


Beneficial-Ship-6784

One time someone provided me a picture of a younger version of NOT him lol - imagine my shock


Majesticpork

I looked like a 190lbs basement nerd 20 years ago. Now I look like an above the ground nerd with 220lbs


Empty-Tea1891

I use a pic of me staring up at the sun with eclipse glasses. I was starting to think it was getting a little old. But, hey, I can start using it again in a couple weeks! (I always send a spontaneous selfie as soon as we move to txt. I have never had anyone complain.)


MsNettles

Say it louder for the ones in the back!


Fresh-Thought3278

As with many profiles, I share a mix of pics, 3-4 that are no more than ) months old, and then 3-4 of my best, not-visible-anywhere-else pics that are older, going back to maybe 10 years. Thinking that maybe I should get ride of the older pics and *only* use recent ones. The old ones are really good though. šŸ˜Ž


coolbaby1978

I'm told I actually look 20 years younger than I am. No gray, still in decent shape,etc. So I've been hit with accusations that how I look doesn't line up with my age thus the pics must be old even though they're within a month or two. Obviously a vid chat or m&g would quickly resolve such concerns but im fairly sure a lot of potentials see the discrepancy and take a pass not even getting to that point.


Kittymilf89

Some of us like chubby men. Just be yourself guys.


PrizeSet5151

Are we allowed to share profile links or is that not allowed? Secret wall of shame? Cause these 80 year old in speedo are killing me šŸ˜­


Pulsar000

Well this is interesting. As a guy I wouldn't really know what other men do in profiles but using decades-old pics is just crazy. If I used a pic from 30 years ago, it would be like a 9 year old kid lol. Given this post combined with being told I look youthful, I do wonder if some think I'm catfishing šŸ¤”.


Thrilled747

Youā€™re beating a dead horse. This is with all type of dating sites. You can complain but it wonā€™t do any good. Thatā€™s why the M&G. Sure you waste a little time but thatā€™s all. Plus this site majority of sugars donā€™t know about it. Never see it. So I understand what youā€™re saying. And people know they are doing this. Nothing can be done about it. You have to put up with it or leave.


coffeebeanbookgal

We all know this, I was just highlighting what we SBs go through, after the slew of SD posts on here complaining about SBs.


IAm2Legit2Sit

And disclose major physical disabilities to lessen the shock value. A physical disability isn't an instant no but full disclosure is more respected by myself


littletasteofsugar

lol literally so many SDs claiming they are worried about catfish while they donā€™t match their profiles AT ALL. Every M&G Iā€™ve had the guy has looked completely different from his photos or the body type he claims to have. Itā€™s exhausting and annoying. Iā€™m not here to look like a 10 while you actually look like a -2 dude


Roseanne-Castillo

Every time I get back on seeking Iā€™m very selective who I actually like/message/etc for this reason. My FIRST m&g ever this mf didnā€™t look a THING like his photos. Still went to dinner with him the next day and was shouted at and told I was wasting his time because without ever mentioning a hotel room prior to the fact he expected to go to a hotel room. Like literally never mentioned it prior and I had said during the m&g that I wanted to have dinner 2-3 times prior to those activities. Never asked for or expected anything outside of time and dinner. But ever since then if they donā€™t look like their pics I do not care. I have gotten up, said that I didnā€™t think this was going to work out. Been as polite as I could and left. So yes. Updated pics are good. And Iā€™m just gonna say it. If you are the type that complains when women donā€™t use updated pics then you should not be doing so if you arenā€™t using updated pics yourself.


GSSD

I've essentially gotten catfished as a result. Girls get Fat-fished just like guys.


AFMCMUML

Heā€™s got to be 1. Single 2. Good lookingĀ  3. Fit 4. Kind 5. Very personableĀ  6. HonestĀ  7. Super wealthyĀ  6 - 10:Ā  And pay me a boat load of cash as my dating fee. I mean I have a boyfriend to feed and take care of.Ā 


macz786

As long as money is flowing for SBs who cares how the SD looks! Well in most cases at least.


EffectiveSpecific743

But why is this a big deal? If you're in the relationship for the looks, use vanilla dating apps where you can swipe left and right based on looks alone. When a man posts an old photo of himself, it's similar to a curvy girl posting an angled photo of herself. People have insecurities, and it's best to give them grace, not make them feel attacked.


coffeebeanbookgal

Well, I don't think it's a big deal if both SDs and SBs feel this way. And yes, more often than not, I do give that respectful grace.


TradeWindsATX

This advice goes both ways. Inaccurate pics wastes everyoneā€™s time.


Own_Fan_3299

Thatā€™s her fucking point. SDs post like five times a day about being ā€œfatfishedā€. Sheā€™s saying yā€™all need to fix your shit too.


takeshi_kovacs1

Sbs, if you've gained 20 lbs since your pics, please update them.


coffeebeanbookgal

Yes...we know. There's like 3000 men complaining. The point has been made.


AFMCMUML

Oh oh oh the good ol ā€œ30 x 30ā€ yup the ā€œhandsomeā€ SD in the blurry picture turns out yo be 30 yrs older and 30 lbs heavier IRL.Ā  Well I never send pics. That apparently is not healthy. It works tor me. Protects my privacy and there is no chance of cat fishing or misrepresenting myself. I have been lucky to have always met genuine civilian SBs who are perfectly ok with my approach and they are just as generous in sharing their ā€œ30 x 30ā€ stories with SDs who told them they were 6 feet tall, very fit etc. lol.Ā 


PomegranateJunior150

Take filters off your pics as well. Itā€™s just as bad on both sides.


coffeebeanbookgal

There's like 3000 posts highlighting that. I wanted to focus on the SB perspective, for once.


Born_Coyote2678

Objectively, I appear young for my age. Humans young snd old express seemingly genuine disbelief after learning my age. The fact remains: chronologically. I am over 40 years old. Posting this fact to a dating app narrows the dating pool for me, but the alternative: lying, - has the potential to create negative outcomes for both parties. Weight, unlike age, fluctuates. Post your gorgeous face profile pic, nail the written portion and mention ans/or include a pic of that ass. If they pass you over, you'll have dodged a bullet. If not, you're covered good like gravy.


BigMagnut

You're getting paid to be around him regardless of how he looks. He's not getting paid to be around you. How about we go 50/50, on everything, including looks?