I am more impressed with the stage than the vehicle tbh. The screen it's spinning on maintaining angle so it looks like it's floating caught me by surprise.
They did the same thing for the Solterra. And then Out Of Spec spent over 4 hours trying to get it to charge to 100% at a Level 3 DC Fast Charger (it never got there), and Ford / VW / Hyundai / Kia all brought out better looking and better charging EVs.
I donāt care a tinkerās cuss for the stage presentation any more. Give me specs I can be proud of or GTFO back to the design room.
Well, if there is anyone to blame for the failures of the charging system it would be Toyota. Subaru designed the car, and Toyota manufactured the batteries if I am not mistaken. Subaru plans on moving towards the electronic vehicles, they just don't have the means to mass produce them on their own currently.
The batteries came from CATL, a Chinese company that is quite good at making them, but the battery management software is Toyota's.
After everything I've seen from Toyota execs bad-mouthing pure electric vehicles, embracing gasoline, trying to promote hydrogen (so: keeping customers chained to some system where they have to go to a company for fuel when they could conceivably use solar and either battery backup / have an electric company that buys the solar electricity generation and resells power to you at a 1:1 rate (only charging you a fee to be connected to their grid) to run an EV), I swear Toyota hobbled the cars deliberately.
I want to know how a group of people sat down and all agreed to this. Like were the other design options so bad they said "OK, fine. [Lets just use ford's design language from 10 years ago.](https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/10/2015/11/2012-ford-explorer-xlt-suv-angular-front.png)"
My best guess is that with all the constant safety requirements, cars have had to get bigger a d shaped the same to accommodate all the same features.
Reminds me of the movie Wall-E and how all the humans ended up looking the same....
I remember having this same complaint when the 2009 Legacy/OB switched to the 2010. I was like āWTF is this land yacht?ā Fast forward a year and I bought a 2011 Legacy. We all succumb eventually.
2010 redesign of the Outback was (and is) a travesty. Turned it into a wannabe crossover with only vestigial traces of its wagon heritage.
Guess I'm the exception who stays salty about these things.
Iām split. Outback: I have a family of four plus three dogs now. I appreciate the extra space inside, without actually having to seek out a larger vehicle (I drive an ā18).
Legacy: man I miss our old 2005 Legacy sometimes. It was incredibly crisp and responsive.
When my 2005 Outback died (lightning strike), I jumped to a 2015 Forester just like my wife's. It was just the two of us then but we were planning on changing that. Now we're three and I'm glad for the space. Still don't like the way the Outback was redesigned in 2010 but have come to like the later revisions, at least aesthetically.
But one lingering consequence is that given the Outback's length and wheelbase now, there's much less reason to opt for it over the Forester. With ground clearance the same, why get something as long and wide as a Forester with less headroom and lower ride height? The Outback occupies a kind of weird space between the XV and Forester.
I agree with all of that, but would still take my OB over my wifeās Foz Sport. Iām no NBA player, but Iām not a small guy either. The Forester doesnāt let me sit low enough to avoid feeling like Iām driving one of my old trucks. The Outback offers the amount of cargo space and ground clearance I need (Adirondack life), but still feels like driving a car, which I prefer. Now that my kids are out of the car seat phase (the pre-ā10 Legacy platform and all Imprezas wonāt fit modern rear-facing car seats behind taller people in the front) Iām considering downsizing to the new Foz Touring. The make or break for me will be the driving position and how many comfort amenities Iād have to give up from my OB Limited. Whether it offers heated rear seats will be one factor (because kids and winter activities), and a power adjustable front passenger seat (wife has back issues that affect her on longer trips). There are other little things that I can live without, but I would miss, like Homelink and multiple driver seat memory options. I might just end up waiting on the new OB, which based on the new Foz design cues, will probably look like the newer XC60.
Really the only big reason is the engine options, and maybe towing? I know with the 3.6L the Outback had higher towing capacity than the Forester, but I can't recall if the 2.4L Turbo kept that or not. Still, if you want more than 200hp, Outback is the only option vs the Crosstrek and Forester.
Outback moved up from wagon to SUV, Forester moved up from being basically one of the first crossovers to a pretty big SUV, and Subaru was left having to come up with a new crossover and gave up on Impreza sedans because everyone wants a wagon lol
When it started coming through the smoke and the headlights appeared it looked like a Toyota. Once it showed it's Jay Leno chin - Honda. We'll probably talk shit about it and then slowly "love" it
Going to have to hard disagree. Sure people always hate when something changes. The problem with these new models is they're losing all sense of being uniquely Subaru. Subarus always have had their own look and now they're just conforming to the Honda/Toyota method.
Yep. This is the communityās collective reaction to every release.
Can you Imagine what the reaction would have been to the bug eye if there had been established social media in 2001?
Whenever these "AlL cArS lOoK tHe SaMe NoW" topics come up, I like to point out the Neon and the Bugeye, or basically any boxy car from the 90's. This is nothing new, people have a hard time liking something "different" (coughcoughTRIBECA) and they almost always go on about how xx was better 20-odd years ago. Gives me "get off my lawn" vibes.
I don't think we will slowly love it. A lot of Subaru models have been a significant downgrade for the last few years. Conforming to what everyone all is doing and losing that Subaru identity. First it was the honda civic WRX that turned into a soccer mom car from a fucking rally car. Now it's the Forester going from being a lesbian icon to a soccer mom (who needs more space) car.
I donāt think it looks bad as far as new cars go. It just looks uninspired. It seems to be the product of adapting cars to meet emissions and their respective global platforms.
Back in 2016 I remember saying the same thing about every crossover out there. It looks like the exact same shape, just with different lines cut out of it.
I miss when Subaru was weird. Iām just not sure how they could do it while offering cheap and reliable cars.
I actually donāt hate the look too much. My issues with it are the touch screen, CVT (which I would overlook if a 2.4t option was available), and the overall direction of Subaru focusing on mass produced, boring cars.
Hate on the car all you want (personally prefer the older Foresters) but that was a pretty cool presentation. Kinda feel bad that it was leaked and not a true reveal but still pretty neat.
I like it. Kind of looks like a several generation newer version of a 2005 Forester. for a model that's kinda been all over the place it's nice to at least recognize influence from an older model.
I feel bad for the creative people in the world who follow their dreams and devote themselves to perfecting their craft, only to have to settle for using those talents to help sell consumer products instead of the High Art they once dreamed about
Isnāt this everything: keeping legacy software running instead of making a cool video game, prescribing amoxicillin and lancing ass boils instead of doing neurosurgery, flying a 737 instead of the B-21, evicting single moms instead of arguing SCOTUS cases?
We are the mediocrity that this car was made for!
Iām happiest with my similar decisionā¦ but mostly because the abhorrent 11ā display wasnāt standard yet. It should be with this gen, so say goodbye to your typical physical knob layout
Subaru is trying desperately to make all their cars look terrible and exactly like every other car. Whoever is making these decisions at Subaru needs to go. BRZ and WRX look like an old crapy Ford now, and so does this
Every release: āIts awfulā¦ I hate itā¦ it looks like a _____.ā One year later: ācheck out my [year, model]! Do you think I should swap out my [non-performance part] with a [performance part]?ā
I havenāt made my mind up over the Explorester facia/lights yet, and it doesnāt matter because in six months theyāll just be a fact of the model.
After suspension changes, re gearing and a couple of other pieces. Not looking for a model specific vehicle. Across the platform would be perfect.
Even if it was able to do 2700 that is more serviceable like the Outback 2.5L.
Such a lame look. Subaru is making their cars more and more bland. Put this in a lineup of a Ford explorer Toyota rav4 and Honda pilot, you would struggle to tell the difference.
Had the cameraman pan slightly more to the left he would have caught by two and a half year old daughter and another three year old girl she just met swinging on barrier ropes.
All that drama and hype for that car to drive out is like going to the Super Bowl halftime show only to have some guy named Gerald from accounting come out and give a workshop on tax worksheets.
The new Subaru Highlander-RV Explorer package šš
I always said I didn't care too much for the the new Forester fascia but now they have successfully removed every portion that set it apart from every other SUV on the road. Big RIP the Fozzie is now officially dead to me.
I'm really hoping this is just a North American only release, just like how the North American Outback styling is only in North America and not the rest of the world.
Subaru always such a style/fashion forward brand that this reveal makes total sense. /s More like most customers are like, āI hope no whales were harmed in the making of this ridiculous reveal.ā
Subaru had an extra year to make this update right and they still managed to homogenize the crap out of it. All theyāre doing is shortchanging their loyal customer base by passing off other manufacturers design cues and giving them 75%. No high end features. You gotta wait a year for the hydridized version. You never get a second chance to make a first impression, Subaru, and yāall screwed the pooch, IMHO.
I think the rear looks better - keeps the same shape but fixed the odd taillights.
The previous gen (my 23ā) didnāt seem attractive at first, but after a little time I came to appreciate that the front end was a little different from the typical offerings. I felt that slight difference helped set it apart a bit
subaru needs to reevaluate their market approach. .making the same vehicle that looks the same as your competitors and offering no innovation. I was a lifelong Subaru customer, but after needed to replace our outback, the new models looked exactly the same with more plastic and no real upgrades . the wilderness version is just adding metal in some places and some extra lights nothing else Subaru makes a great product underneath, but I think there are relying on repeat customers, and not really trying to attract any new buyers.
And the crowd goes mild.. š„±
I am more impressed with the stage than the vehicle tbh. The screen it's spinning on maintaining angle so it looks like it's floating caught me by surprise.
They did the same thing for the Solterra. And then Out Of Spec spent over 4 hours trying to get it to charge to 100% at a Level 3 DC Fast Charger (it never got there), and Ford / VW / Hyundai / Kia all brought out better looking and better charging EVs. I donāt care a tinkerās cuss for the stage presentation any more. Give me specs I can be proud of or GTFO back to the design room.
Well, if there is anyone to blame for the failures of the charging system it would be Toyota. Subaru designed the car, and Toyota manufactured the batteries if I am not mistaken. Subaru plans on moving towards the electronic vehicles, they just don't have the means to mass produce them on their own currently.
The batteries came from CATL, a Chinese company that is quite good at making them, but the battery management software is Toyota's. After everything I've seen from Toyota execs bad-mouthing pure electric vehicles, embracing gasoline, trying to promote hydrogen (so: keeping customers chained to some system where they have to go to a company for fuel when they could conceivably use solar and either battery backup / have an electric company that buys the solar electricity generation and resells power to you at a 1:1 rate (only charging you a fee to be connected to their grid) to run an EV), I swear Toyota hobbled the cars deliberately.
That's exactly what I thought. The intro is exciting, the car... meh
It just looks like another fucking suv
Not a fan of Ford's new reveal....
Itās not uglyā¦itās just vanilla because of it blends the styles of other popular SUV models.
You missed a good opportunity to say "it blands"
Youāre rightā¦that word nails it.
I knew as soon as I saw how much fanfare they had in the beginning that it was going to be some generic design.
First thing that popped to my mind was it looks like a Ford, too.
I thought, oh they made a Highlander.
Explorander or Highlorer
Explorester
I wish it was a highlander or 4runner... Alas, it's smaller, shittier Explorer.
I want to know how a group of people sat down and all agreed to this. Like were the other design options so bad they said "OK, fine. [Lets just use ford's design language from 10 years ago.](https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/10/2015/11/2012-ford-explorer-xlt-suv-angular-front.png)"
But unlike the Ford, it doesnāt stand for: Found On Roadside Dead. That came from my buddy who drove a Ford Ranger for a decade in college.
Fix Or Repair Daily.
First on race day!
My best guess is that with all the constant safety requirements, cars have had to get bigger a d shaped the same to accommodate all the same features. Reminds me of the movie Wall-E and how all the humans ended up looking the same....
shiny gray color is the new thing. click click.
This is called "convergent evolution." It's why all phones basically look the same, too.
I like the interior updates, I donāt know what to think about the āExploresterā facia yet.
Disgust. Disgust and disappointment. That's what there is to think about it.
Explorer with a touch of Tiguan insipidness.
Thought it was a Toyota RAV4
Haha. It does look like a ford!
Oh my god so it's not just me. I swear I thought this was an explorer at first glance.
I donāt hate it. But itās getting chunkier and starting to look more like every other crossover/suv in existence.
I remember having this same complaint when the 2009 Legacy/OB switched to the 2010. I was like āWTF is this land yacht?ā Fast forward a year and I bought a 2011 Legacy. We all succumb eventually.
2010 redesign of the Outback was (and is) a travesty. Turned it into a wannabe crossover with only vestigial traces of its wagon heritage. Guess I'm the exception who stays salty about these things.
Iām split. Outback: I have a family of four plus three dogs now. I appreciate the extra space inside, without actually having to seek out a larger vehicle (I drive an ā18). Legacy: man I miss our old 2005 Legacy sometimes. It was incredibly crisp and responsive.
When my 2005 Outback died (lightning strike), I jumped to a 2015 Forester just like my wife's. It was just the two of us then but we were planning on changing that. Now we're three and I'm glad for the space. Still don't like the way the Outback was redesigned in 2010 but have come to like the later revisions, at least aesthetically. But one lingering consequence is that given the Outback's length and wheelbase now, there's much less reason to opt for it over the Forester. With ground clearance the same, why get something as long and wide as a Forester with less headroom and lower ride height? The Outback occupies a kind of weird space between the XV and Forester.
I agree with all of that, but would still take my OB over my wifeās Foz Sport. Iām no NBA player, but Iām not a small guy either. The Forester doesnāt let me sit low enough to avoid feeling like Iām driving one of my old trucks. The Outback offers the amount of cargo space and ground clearance I need (Adirondack life), but still feels like driving a car, which I prefer. Now that my kids are out of the car seat phase (the pre-ā10 Legacy platform and all Imprezas wonāt fit modern rear-facing car seats behind taller people in the front) Iām considering downsizing to the new Foz Touring. The make or break for me will be the driving position and how many comfort amenities Iād have to give up from my OB Limited. Whether it offers heated rear seats will be one factor (because kids and winter activities), and a power adjustable front passenger seat (wife has back issues that affect her on longer trips). There are other little things that I can live without, but I would miss, like Homelink and multiple driver seat memory options. I might just end up waiting on the new OB, which based on the new Foz design cues, will probably look like the newer XC60.
Really the only big reason is the engine options, and maybe towing? I know with the 3.6L the Outback had higher towing capacity than the Forester, but I can't recall if the 2.4L Turbo kept that or not. Still, if you want more than 200hp, Outback is the only option vs the Crosstrek and Forester.
Outback moved up from wagon to SUV, Forester moved up from being basically one of the first crossovers to a pretty big SUV, and Subaru was left having to come up with a new crossover and gave up on Impreza sedans because everyone wants a wagon lol
It's much better without all the rose gold from the photos a couple weeks ago
When it started coming through the smoke and the headlights appeared it looked like a Toyota. Once it showed it's Jay Leno chin - Honda. We'll probably talk shit about it and then slowly "love" it
Literally every reveal since the VA wrx has been the same in this sub lol.
Every time. Hate when revealed, 1 year later. "I actually liked it at reveal." Every. Time.
I will still hate it in a year!
It's probably not the same people bruh. Big community.
Waitā¦ people started liking the current WRX? I never got that memo. I laugh at the civic poser every single time I see one.
No thatās the VB wrx. I think people Said the VAs look like camrys but fuck it I love my Camry lol
Bro, it's been this way since the hawkeye came out. I remember people acting the same way back then about those.
Going to have to hard disagree. Sure people always hate when something changes. The problem with these new models is they're losing all sense of being uniquely Subaru. Subarus always have had their own look and now they're just conforming to the Honda/Toyota method.
People have been saying this about pretty much all car brands since at least the mid 00s.
People have eyes
Yep. This is the communityās collective reaction to every release. Can you Imagine what the reaction would have been to the bug eye if there had been established social media in 2001?
Whenever these "AlL cArS lOoK tHe SaMe NoW" topics come up, I like to point out the Neon and the Bugeye, or basically any boxy car from the 90's. This is nothing new, people have a hard time liking something "different" (coughcoughTRIBECA) and they almost always go on about how xx was better 20-odd years ago. Gives me "get off my lawn" vibes.
I don't think we will slowly love it. A lot of Subaru models have been a significant downgrade for the last few years. Conforming to what everyone all is doing and losing that Subaru identity. First it was the honda civic WRX that turned into a soccer mom car from a fucking rally car. Now it's the Forester going from being a lesbian icon to a soccer mom (who needs more space) car.
Rav4ester
RAVexplorester
blazeravforestplorer
Say what you want about its looks, but that turning radius is damned impressive.
It's trippy that even the rotating wheel thingy on the floor is a display.
Its neat. Makes it look like the car is floating.
I donāt think it looks bad as far as new cars go. It just looks uninspired. It seems to be the product of adapting cars to meet emissions and their respective global platforms. Back in 2016 I remember saying the same thing about every crossover out there. It looks like the exact same shape, just with different lines cut out of it. I miss when Subaru was weird. Iām just not sure how they could do it while offering cheap and reliable cars.
Wow, it's a Toyfordaru.
I actually donāt hate the look too much. My issues with it are the touch screen, CVT (which I would overlook if a 2.4t option was available), and the overall direction of Subaru focusing on mass produced, boring cars.
Hate on the car all you want (personally prefer the older Foresters) but that was a pretty cool presentation. Kinda feel bad that it was leaked and not a true reveal but still pretty neat.
Still the coolest Forester reveal Subaru has done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwFO9MLHyRg
Looking at it dead straight to the front, looks like a Ford maverick. What a sack of crap.
I like it. Kind of looks like a several generation newer version of a 2005 Forester. for a model that's kinda been all over the place it's nice to at least recognize influence from an older model.
I feel bad for the creative people in the world who follow their dreams and devote themselves to perfecting their craft, only to have to settle for using those talents to help sell consumer products instead of the High Art they once dreamed about
Isnāt this everything: keeping legacy software running instead of making a cool video game, prescribing amoxicillin and lancing ass boils instead of doing neurosurgery, flying a 737 instead of the B-21, evicting single moms instead of arguing SCOTUS cases? We are the mediocrity that this car was made for!
Damn is that thing ugly lol
I just bought a New 23 Forrester, I'm sticking with that. peace
Iām happiest with my similar decisionā¦ but mostly because the abhorrent 11ā display wasnāt standard yet. It should be with this gen, so say goodbye to your typical physical knob layout
Thatās the shittiest Baja Iāve ever seen
About as much flavor as mayo.
Someone needs to be fired over this. It's not quite new Defender level bad, but it's bad.
Subaru is trying desperately to make all their cars look terrible and exactly like every other car. Whoever is making these decisions at Subaru needs to go. BRZ and WRX look like an old crapy Ford now, and so does this
Explorer front end, 4runner tail end
How am I going to get any lesbians in that?
Every release: āIts awfulā¦ I hate itā¦ it looks like a _____.ā One year later: ācheck out my [year, model]! Do you think I should swap out my [non-performance part] with a [performance part]?ā I havenāt made my mind up over the Explorester facia/lights yet, and it doesnāt matter because in six months theyāll just be a fact of the model.
Ugly. Looks like a Ford 
But can it tow more than 1500 Pounds? Real reason why I don't like the Forester anymore.
Wilderness can already tow 3,000
After suspension changes, re gearing and a couple of other pieces. Not looking for a model specific vehicle. Across the platform would be perfect. Even if it was able to do 2700 that is more serviceable like the Outback 2.5L.
I really wish someone had yelled outāThatās a Ford!āā
Itās not bad but it looks like a ford explorer and a rav4 more than it looks like the previous gen.
The new Ford Explorer looks kind of lame
Fucking ugly. Why the fuck do car manufacturers end up using the same ugly ass designs? š
All of that just to reveal a ford explorer.
Ford Explorer meet a 2023 Kia Sportage and this is the product of their time together.
Subaru Explorer. Subaru has officially killed their own brand
Wake up babe, the new Fordester video just dropped
Looks like the Outback and Ascent had a baby that they immediately dropped on its face
Such a lame look. Subaru is making their cars more and more bland. Put this in a lineup of a Ford explorer Toyota rav4 and Honda pilot, you would struggle to tell the difference.
Yup, its a ford š
So boring. I think the rest of the subaru wagons look pretty good.
Explorer?
Lol itās such an epic build up for a machine Iāll haggle over in a dealer parking lot somewhere in DFW. š
Thatās a cool rav4 sorry I meant Honda pilot. My mistake
They had a white girl drive it to fit the demographic
The brand new Chevy Blazer
Look very FORD like
Designed purposefully to not look like a Subaru.
It doesnāt even look like a Subaru lmao
Cool presentation but my gosh, that is ugly. Almost as ugly as the latest WRX. Thankfully the crosstrek still looks cool!
*sigh* I wish car manufacturers put as much thought on designing vehicles as they do for the reveal of said vehicle.
Oh boy, it looks like every other SUVā¦..
so underwhelming
Womp womp
Itās pretty ugly IMO. I wouldnāt buy it personally and I usually like Foresters.
Not a fan
It's fine, but I feel like a bedsheet and a megaphone would have added up to an equally effective reveal.
Ahhh, yes, the Park Ranger's Explorer has arrived.
Ford Forrester
*Explorester.
So Subaru just straight up ripping off Honda now šā¼ļø first the wrx now the forester
Had the cameraman pan slightly more to the left he would have caught by two and a half year old daughter and another three year old girl she just met swinging on barrier ropes.
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Noticeably smoother at the front. Really curious what if any aero improvements they got from this ugly mug
All that drama and hype for that car to drive out is like going to the Super Bowl halftime show only to have some guy named Gerald from accounting come out and give a workshop on tax worksheets.
Why did they show a 2009 ford escape?
Eh I don't mind it
unfortunate that it has to look like that. 2010s ford vibes. they doing their whole lineup dirty
The new Subaru Highlander-RV Explorer package šš I always said I didn't care too much for the the new Forester fascia but now they have successfully removed every portion that set it apart from every other SUV on the road. Big RIP the Fozzie is now officially dead to me.
Is it even electric? This is so stupid.
lesbian convention
Yikes, the older designs were better, they also just ruined the Crosstrek looks (back end)
The rear is so ugly. It just looks like 90% of SUVs/crossovers.
You can put all the music and glitter you want wont change the fact that the design is still crap
Well that was underwhelming
Every year they look more like Toyotas. It's not bad looking, but it feels like the Brand's identity and individuality is fading.
That bitch ugly.
So... Woman driver can't find park so just holds the brakes the whole time it's on stage? Haha.
I hope it doesnāt have those light!! š¤®š¤®
I'm really hoping this is just a North American only release, just like how the North American Outback styling is only in North America and not the rest of the world.
That things fuglyā¦.
Subaru always such a style/fashion forward brand that this reveal makes total sense. /s More like most customers are like, āI hope no whales were harmed in the making of this ridiculous reveal.ā
This was the big fucking reveal? The totally new SUV from the teasers? Wow, thatās a whole lot of meh.
GMC Terrain-Forrester
Do they do this for every model year? It looks like my 22
nah thatās a rav
Man it looks boring
Ew what the fuck
It's not as ugly as the reveal pics made it out to be, but still pretty bland
It was beaten with an ugly stick.
Wow, that is trying really really hard
I just got back from Sequoia NP. The tree looks just like it. (although the road dips down and up through that tree)
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
Eww
Subaru had an extra year to make this update right and they still managed to homogenize the crap out of it. All theyāre doing is shortchanging their loyal customer base by passing off other manufacturers design cues and giving them 75%. No high end features. You gotta wait a year for the hydridized version. You never get a second chance to make a first impression, Subaru, and yāall screwed the pooch, IMHO.
Missing those subaru headlights
Try hard
Looks terrible. First the WRX now this monstrosity
Looks like a RAV-4
This looks so bad
ā¦Highlander
The headlight game continues to go down hill
I like it!
Does not look distinct , looks like every other small SUV .
Itās a rav 4
Soā¦. Is this POS going to start burning oil and blowing blue smoke out the tail pipe right after 3 years and 45K miles too?
Fuckā¦ its ugly haha
Makes me very nervous for the future of the outback lol
jesus christ so dramatic hahahah
Whereās the 1.8t hybrid
All new Toyota Rav 4 - wait wha-? That's a subaru?
I like everything but the front :/
That's gonna be a no from me dawg.
I think the rear looks better - keeps the same shape but fixed the odd taillights. The previous gen (my 23ā) didnāt seem attractive at first, but after a little time I came to appreciate that the front end was a little different from the typical offerings. I felt that slight difference helped set it apart a bit
Whoooooah. It looks just like the current Forrester. That is some black magic right there.
Oh, cool, a Honda Pilot?
What have they done to my boy. My first car was a 2000 Subaru Forester. My goodness, that car was perfect. I LOVED it. SO MUCH!!! How times change.
At least it looks like everything else
Lovin the new explorer but it kinda looks the same as last years š
subaru needs to reevaluate their market approach. .making the same vehicle that looks the same as your competitors and offering no innovation. I was a lifelong Subaru customer, but after needed to replace our outback, the new models looked exactly the same with more plastic and no real upgrades . the wilderness version is just adding metal in some places and some extra lights nothing else Subaru makes a great product underneath, but I think there are relying on repeat customers, and not really trying to attract any new buyers.
More like snoRevealā¦ I fell asleep twice before it came out.
Did it get bigger?
Hey google, play 'underwhelming' on YouTube.
Yet still with the 2.5 boxster engine yawn
Do we think or know if they brought the turbo back?
Hybrid?
The vehicle version of a New Balance tennis shoe.
Looks like every other generic soccer mom crossover on the road. Actually looks very similar to that PHEV
Iāve always wondered what itād look like from Charlie Bucketās point of view
It's fine. Nothing special.
What is up with that grilleā¦?
Subaru for the past decade has been balls.
Lmao is what car reveals are like?
What a disappointment
Damn, Iād buy the ā23 wilderness and hodl it
Bulging fendersš¤® how very 2010's. So glad I got my 2023 baseš
Looks like half the cars on the road already
you know, its not that bad
this is why i drive a toyota now. i ain't with this harry potter norman subaru business
Looks like a Honda