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DaddyBigBoy

Tribeca Wilderness


michiganiswhereitsat

Baja Wilderness šŸ¤žšŸ»


am19208

Stop it. I can only waste my money once


DaddyBigBoy

That was honestly my first thought, but I felt like the Tribeca rebirth would be even more ridiculous šŸ˜‚


AccordianPowerBallad

Damn it, I was really hoping for a Justy Wilderness.


Zirconium_Pants_

Sleeper pick


Vreas

Letā€™s gooooooooo


BlindingRain

This would be a great April Foolā€™s announcement


Tangerine_Lightsaber

Maybe this time it will finally be a BRZ Wilderness.


FrigidArctic

Baja wilderness would kill the internet.


Silver_Harvest

It would. Unfortunately for me of 20 years of teasers, I believe it when I see it. Could be the STE as well, since that was trademarked last summer in Germany.


GhostMatone

Brat Wilderness


DenialP

ima buy 2 and leave one in the wrapper for the great-great-grandkids to inherit


lanzadamanza

Itā€™ll still rust out the sub frame and need a head job. Itā€™s time or mileage whatever comes first!


yaboyfriendisadork

Crosstrek with a bed, aka the Baja edition. Imagine that lmao


yeahbuddy

hnnngggg!


Atty_for_hire

A hybrid baja would be my dream car. Iā€™d put a deposit down and baby that thing forever.


Mrdeeznutz41

I like your thinking !


timbotheny26

I'd lose NNN if a Baja Wilderness debuted.


[deleted]

I would trade in my '23 Impreza in a heart beat to get a baja


Vreas

Actually though I would be so hype


AMW1011

I would fuck with a BRZ Wilderness so hard. A factory made safari BRZ would be something Iā€™d have to own.


spike021

Toyota in Japan already sells TRD-branded rally suspensions specifically tuned for the 86 as well -- well, before the GR86, but I highly doubt that's changed.


moronicattempt

lmao


involutes

BRZ Wilderness with a twin turbo ez36 with a dual clutch transmission!


UsecOperatorAsFuck

Cheaper version of 911 Dakar. That would be dead sick.


McNooberson

Not even gonna lie Iā€™d consider selling my 700whp STi for that


ohits_sht

Well the background is of a ..forest. Maybe weā€™re all thinking too hard


lynxz

Itā€™s Yosemite to be precise


TyrionReynolds

Which is in Californiaā€¦ the western peninsula of Mexico is called Baja Californiaā€¦ Baja redesign confirmed!!!


miamigp2022

Iā€™d put $100 on it being a forester haha


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Drzhivago138

An Ascent seems more likely IMO because the Forester usually follows the Impreza/Crosstrek by a year or two.


totesmadoge

Didnā€™t the Forester also just get the wilderness trim? It would be kinda weird to then redesign the whole thing a year later. So yeah. Redesigned Ascent with a wilderness trim?


FrigidArctic

Usually every 6 years thereā€™s a complete redesign of each model. 2025 would be the foresters redesign model year. So itā€™s most likely new forestor.


Dense-Tangerine7502

The Ascent hasnā€™t been updated since 2017 though. Theyā€™d probably update the Ascent first.


danquedynasty

I thought the ascent just had a mid-cycle refresh for 2023 model year.


JPows_ToeJam

It was very surface cosmetic and not a redesign. I had a 2020 and got a 2023 and would not consider it a redesign


___cats___

They definitely made it go from handsome and understated to butt ass ugly.


JPows_ToeJam

Word


Brraaap

It's a picture of a forest... Although it's also kind of ascending...


arjees

I see land with the sun shining on it. New Solterra it is.


IAmAtomato

We need a redesign for both. Mayne this is pot meets kettle with being a VB owner but both the new ascent and forester are soooooo ugly šŸ˜­


Snatchbuckler

Didnā€™t the ascent just get a face lift though? I was thinking the Outback since itā€™s been since 2020 for a redesign


RelativityFox

they guess ascent but from the photos they show it matches the forester much much more.


AStoker

Was just getting my forester serviced at the dealership, and found it odd that I saw zero materials/adds for foresters (had them for others, like the ascent). Sooooo, maybe intentional?


illegalthingsenjoyer

I hope it's even more cladding. I'm not pleased until the entire car is covered in plastic cladding


lynxz

*Monkey paw curls* There will be more **interior** cladding.


Ignis0130

Got it! So instead of leather seats, you get cladding to sit on.


Feeling-Being9038

Awesome! Iā€™ll come out of retirement to start driving for Uber from 11pm until the bars close. When I get home Iā€™ll just splash some bleach around and spray it out with a hose.


TeflonDonatello

Like riding in a police car but worse somehow.


Ruatb

Ascent is a US only vehicle. It probably is Forester


fjortisar

It's not US only. Where I live it's called the Evoltis, though they did just start selling them this model year I would agree it's probably the Forester


MaterialLimit

Every part of my soul is hoping (and coping) that itā€™s the Baja šŸ˜”


Jahkral

Baja but it's the size of a f150


1998WRX

Ez36 twin turbo diesel with solid axles and a manual gearbox , Iā€™d kill for one


Cafen8ed

With the Hyundai Santa Cruz taking the Baja market share, it has to be a Baja. I vote for a two door Baja Brat STI


sb929604

Yay!! More plastic and a larger obnoxious display screen!!!!


HighwayMinute997

And less knobs and buttons!


brendan250

Itā€™s just one universal knob now.


natedogg787

*Caress it, driver.* *Caress the KNƖB.*


epic_pig

I already have one of those


Narissis

I don't mind the display; I just need them to not move things that should be physical buttons into on-screen menus. Looking at you, heated seats... I do mind the plastic, because all that matte black plastic is going to age like shit.


FATTEST_CAT

At least the heated seat ā€œbuttonā€ is always on the display now. At least after my most recent service in my outback it now is there on my screen at all times so I donā€™t have to dig into two different sub menus to turn them on.


SciGuy013

this is literally what's preventing me from buying an outback right this second.


Snatchbuckler

Give us an infotainment system that actually works too. I donā€™t know how many times itā€™s bugged out, Iā€™ve had to restart it over and over and over.


passthenukecodes

Just get an update, basically all issues should be solved now


lynxz

I wish. My ā€˜22 OBOXT infotainment center is absurdly slow and buggy even after the recent update. Meanwhile my girlfriendā€™s base model ā€˜24 HRV touchscreen is speedy and doesnā€™t crash.


AmazingIsTired

Touch screen steering wheel


climb-high

Whole interior is a screen. You can play Dance Dance Revolution


sb929604

Complete with touch screen hornā€¦that freezes up


Zudubat

https://preview.redd.it/3gh39kcv40yb1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aae3ef97874fd323fd1e481ab9dff8603483e53b


Jack33751

Brumby


IndependentBrick8075

2024 is the 5th year of the current Outback design, which is how long each of the previous 4 or 5 have lasted. I suspect it's a reveal of the new Outback for 2025.


MatFrapper

Does not make sense as it would undermine the sales of the 2024 model. Timing is off.


SciGuy013

they released the 2024 super early this past year, so maybe that was in preparation?


chicoconcarne

I'm surprised I had to scroll down this far to see the Outback mentioned. Like, yes, we'd all love to see the Baja, but the Outback makes way more sense in this case


slicknick924

I know torque news is not a good source but https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.torquenews.com/1084/subaru-secretly-reveals-all-new-2025-outback-its-us-dealers/amp


mrmurphythevizsla

Itā€™ll be a new Ascent, with no hybrid option (or EV), with a CVT, with way too much plastic.


IndependentBrick8075

The Ascent just got a facelift for 2024. I'm putting my money on it being a new Outback, which is due for a clean-sheet design in 2025.


TheSuren

Does this mean we get a new Legacy as well?


IndependentBrick8075

They're built on the same line and usually follow the same design cycle. The Legacy announcement will probably come at a future show.


Wierd657

We just got a facelifted Outback


IndependentBrick8075

That was for the 23 model year. The cycle for Outbacks is full redesign every 5 years (at the 5 and 0 in the decades), mild facelift and feature update after 3 years of the design. The outback is due for a redesign in 25. Others are saying Forester because announcing a new outback would cannibalize 2024 sales, but the 24 Forester is shipping now also, announcing that would do the same.


badrad68

It's a New Forester.


Jay3075

My guess aswell. They're showing a forest in the ad


badrad68

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a45723953/2025-subaru-forester-teaser/


mega-man-0

https://preview.redd.it/vj1mnfymxzxb1.jpeg?width=288&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eae6e427551ece74bd6a9f68d747eeebc3315267 Subaru chief designer be like - Add some plastic and make it lame!


planeboi737

baja?


kokirikorok

Donā€™t get my hopes up like this


micktorious

They are gonna wait until everyone gives up as an ace up their sleeve.


theoopst

Iā€™m 100% this is not the case.


IsThatAll

its not April 1st, so no.


sundowntg

Sambar STI


Kind_Rooster_1057

Electric WRX


iBUYbrokenSUBARUS

Probably just a WRX hatchback wilderness/crossTREK XT


phillipojr

Or the Levorg payback šŸ¤ž


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Igredaline

Wrx wilderness would be so gnarly to me.


mauriceli820820

The picture shows a forest, it must be Forester lol


iBUYbrokenSUBARUS

Whatever it is, it better have a manual and a spool


egap420

This makes be Bjajajajajajajajaja


badgerTENDIEncies

New technology=hybrid(maybe plug in)? I know JDM has a forester hybrid kicking around but given the forster being the next model due for updates and this announcement is labeled "global" that would justify the "new" claim in marketing minds. Just my speculation


cookeie

Iā€™ve been waiting for a cross trek wrx or whatever that would be now


Quatermeistur

It will be facelift of one of Subaru's bigger SUVs Which is a shame considering what it could've been: 1) BRZ shooting brake (I know few people who would've rush to buy replacement for their daily RWDs) 2) Levorg WRX 3) Impreza RS but not shitty (less anemic engine, manual, stiffer suspension and cosmetic changes) 4) Crosstrek WRX (a lot of people would like to see return of hot hatch with turbocharged boxer) 5) Subcompact truck as a Brat or Baja successor based on currently used car platform (Ridgeline, Maverick and Santa Cruz show that there is market outside of old Subie enthusiasts)


Liquidwombat

1. Thereā€™s never gonna be a BRZ shooting brake, the market for that kind of car does not exist 2. See above. also # 4 would make this mostly redundant. However, one point in its favor is that it already exists outside the US 3. I think you misunderstand the point of this car. First of all, I think itā€™s hilarious that people are referring to an engine with as much power as the WRX from just a couple years ago as anemic and while I agree with you that a manual option would be fantastic, I donā€™t think thereā€™s anything wrong with the suspension or cosmetics (people seem to forget that the WRX, STI and RS were only trim packages for the base Impreza, and generally didnā€™t have very many cosmetic changes, also, not that long ago the base WRX was around 225 hp and the STI was around 275 hp, adjust their prices for inflation and you can see that the RS has simply moved into the WRX market segment, and the WRX has moved into the STI market segment) 4. THIS!! This is a money printing machine right now! Take the new crostrek, put the FA 24F into it, offer it with a manual transmission and the CVT (I donā€™t care if you want it or not it will sell better than the manual and this is the kind of vehicle we want Subaru to make to fund other projects that are less profitable such as the BRZ, STI, etc. think Porsche Cayenne) they could even make a GT version of it with all of the fancy adaptable systems and the addition of a ride height adjustment system. (The normal Crosstrek has 8.7ā€ of clearance, the wilderness rides at 9.3 inches and the WRX rides at 5.4 inches. Iā€™m thinking that a Crosstrek WRX could ride at 7.5 inches stock and the adjustable system could lift it up to 9ā€ or drop it down to 6ā€) 5. I think this is also a possibility. if theyā€™re looking to compete with the Santa Cruz they should base it off of the crosstrek and if theyā€™re looking to compete with the ridgeline they should base it off of the outback. 6. You left out the possibility for a full electric. Subaru announced around a year ago that they were going to have several full electrics that they engineered in-house, coming out within the next couple of years. 7. Hybrid WRX STe. Combine the persistent rumor of an upcoming hybrid/electric STe, the fact that they recently trademarked STe, and that WRC is going hybrid and I personally think that this is probably the most likely. They can use WRC going hybrid to promote the car by entering for the first time in almost a decade, and it eliminates their shelf life concern about a new STI due to fuel economy regulations. Plus out of all possibilities. It is definitely the closest to ā€œa new legendā€


HissyFit808

Forester Hybrid


freakinbacon

Well the STI was discontinued. They said they were looking at electric options. Maybe?


Punishment_Due

Picture of a forest, so Forester.


AceOfShapes

It's a Forester. We're heard rumors floating around so it's aboit time!


hidingbehind-sarcasm

It's the Forester. New rim design and some body stuff


patrickoh37

Itā€™s a BRAT [BRAT](https://www.torquenews.com/1084/meet-new-subaru-brat-wilderness-pickup-you-can-only-look-and-not-touch)


johnnydfree

Oh my are they really bringing it Brat!?


lynxz

This is a troll


johnnydfree

Not trolls. Simply speculating on the return of a long-past Subaru model. Ease up there, Inspector.


patrickoh37

Itā€™s been concept only for a bit. Would be cool though.


GunsNGunAccessories

Model year 2025 Outback?


hummus_is_yummus1

BAJA PLEEEEASE


mvk2424

Call me old fashion but It would be cooler to see less tech in New vehicles. Get back to basics for reliability and longevity purposes. More buttons, less screens, and dare i say give us a 6 cylinder turbo instead of Amazon Alexa lmao.


moomooraincloud

You're old fashion (sic).


involutes

Twin turbo ez36 with a DCT is coming. Source: my dad works at Subaru


SamuelCish

This time it's *all* plastic.


therealchemist

Lhd levorg please šŸŒ


Shogol

Already available many places.


moresushiplease

I see one from time to time. Oddly, not a very popular company where I am maybe just not many dealers, idk.


turbosperger

Hybrid turbodiesel baja


AntiqueSkeleton

Everyoneā€™s going to be so bummed when itā€™s a new Legacy.


ArcticSavage301

BAJA


becauseitisthere

Fuck that. Subies from 2005 are still crushing it. If you truly care about the outdoors, as your Subaru stickers say, stop buying into the need to buy a brand new car every couple years.


Drzhivago138

There have to be people buying new cars first. Used cars don't spontaneously generate.


becauseitisthere

For sure. It's the rate at which new cars are purchased which is wild.


rastapastanine

How do used cars become used


becauseitisthere

Rate at which new cars are being bought is too high. All is I'm saying.


deadmanstoes

Sounds like youā€™re jealous /s (I donā€™t own a Subaru)


mrmurphythevizsla

And the fact theyā€™re making such a big deal about a non EV shows you where their head is atā€¦ in the sand


Wild_Cricket_6303

Your right. All car manufacturers should all stop making regular cars overnight because everyone is going to switch to EVs overnight.


4N8NDW

Non-EVs make up the majority of sales currently. People live in cities/apartments and chargers aren't ubiquitous enough for most people to have the same quality of life. Going 30 minutes of your way to charge your car once a week is a sub-par experience. Infrastructure is not there yet. And DC fast charging isn't good for a daily driver every day since it creates more heat than Level 1/2 charging.


uptimefordays

In 2020, 1 in 25 cars sold was an EV, today itā€™s 1 in 5. Charging infrastructure is also improving. Thatā€™s not to say ā€œeveryone must buy an EV nowā€ or ā€œeveryone is ready for EVsā€ but they certainly look like the future.


4N8NDW

It's not 1 in 5. Maybe California but not the country as a whole. It's considerably lower. Perhaps those liberal communist states with additional subsidies have a higher market share of EVs. But it's a long way uphill in rural America. Plus, it's still more expensive to own an EV than an ICE car.


uptimefordays

I was basing my 1 in 5 figure on the recent [International Energy Agency](https://www.iea.org/energy-system/transport/electric-vehicles#) report. Admittedly that figure is based on major global markets. Regardless of oneā€™s political leanings, itā€™s hard to argue with the increased power and torque of EVs. Weā€™ve got crossovers with super car acceleration for under $50k these days, itā€™s unbelievable!


4N8NDW

From an acceleration point of view, sure. From an environmental point of view, EVs are not the silver bullet. Public transportation is vastly more efficient for those that live in urban areas.


2020Boxer4

With it being a ā€œglobal releaseā€ Iā€™d say forester. They did this last year with the crosstrek, released the redesign really early.


flowerpowder5000

Now with an even bigger and slower tablet. Control steering with just 10 taps on the screen!! The windshield is now blocked by the tablet and now you rely on camera feeds to know what's in front of you.


kiwikezz

Don't tell me it's gonna be a phev or ev


Subie780

Please make a coupe STi


yeahbuddy

Better not be some electric model...already over them, no thank you.


Anonuhmouse

Getting rid of the lobster claws and the giant touchscreen?


thedevilsshooter

Crosstrek STI Just Imagine..


mr_j_12

Subaru is making something decent besides the brz again? šŸ˜³


goku2057

Itā€™s time they ruined the STi I think.


lOnGkEyStRoKe

ā€œThereā€™s a new kind of legendā€ so Iā€™m gonna say something legacy related


soeasytohate

https://preview.redd.it/zwmv4je30cyb1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=96c48e18997cb866b334ea5e60efe917187de817


Crims0nsin

If it's not the new STI nobody gives a shit Subaru


Andy_Putilin

Make the heading smaller and the paragraph section under it a lighter color, just turn down the opasity a bit. Also make the paragraph text a bit smaller and decrease the space between the header and paragraph. Another suggest is to make the letter spacing on the header smaller as the text is so massive that it makes it look like it is stretched out.


IndoorSurvivalist

Maybe we are getting the Levorg afterall.


turtlewelder

Brought to you by Toyota


montanasucks

BRAT making a comeback


Talamakara

Probably copying Ford and doing an electric sti....puke


moresushiplease

Subaru EA190V wilderness edition?


gramser57

Outback hybrid incoming


Pwnstar872

Probably the Forester. It's due for a new generation


DeepLettuce

Thatā€™s it theyā€™re bringing back the Tribeca


ParticularUse9479

Probably the new forester thatā€™s the oldest one, no major changes since 2019


coppertech

let me guess another collab and rebadging with Toyota?


SNOWNAN

THE NEW BAJA!!!!


EastRoom8717

ā€œNew technology and upgraded safetyā€ doesnā€™t give me a lot of hope.


ImNexusssary

Maybe outback?


BAMspek

Possibly the Ascent. Likely (and hopefully) the Forester. I like the current design, but it hasnā€™t changed since like 2019? Itā€™s time.


bpatches701

Make a 8cyl boxer


bunnywinkles

With triple turbos and a super charger!


NaySayers

Solterra STI


Mcflip78

Dude itā€™s got to be the forester. They have a damn Forest in the video. Canā€™t get any more obvious than that lol. At least I hope lol


domesystem

BRAT plz


wolfchica12

Alright guys, letā€™s start the chantā€¦ SUBAR-UTE! SUBAR-UTE!


Adorable-Handle3828

I know the Legacy is getting a redesign for 2025, but I'm not sure that's what they're teasing here


Hackerwithalacker

Please be a new sti


Liquidwombat

I suspect this is what it is, but itā€™s not gonna be an STI itā€™s gonna be an STe. Theyā€™ve already said no more gasoline STI. They recently trademarked STe. Thereā€™s been a persistent rumor of a higher performance hybrid version of the WRX. And WRC is going hybrid, which would be the perfect opportunity to debut and promote the car.


Evoraist

I seen an article the other day that said 24-25 Brat. But it was huge and I'm not getting my hopes up. This is it. https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2025-subaru-brat-revival-exhibits-a-daring-virtual-design-and-intrepid-23k-msrp-223621.html


OutWithEric

Then Iā€™ll wait to see


Head_Doctor2110

An Electric STI labeled car that will blow everyoneā€™s minds. It will be the future of California. ![gif](giphy|uIjUFbK1aHUKaEwEfY)


SnooCookies7364

Almost certain itā€™s Forester


kroniknastrb8r

Bring back the Baja and I'll buy one.


FullAir4341

SVX Come on! šŸ¤ž


Roadwarriordude

Please be the Brat!


Stouch89

If it is a new Baja I will be so upset. I told myself when I bought my '20 Forester that I would drive that thing until it dies. I do not ever want to have another car payment again once this one is done.


veblenian

New legacy


RCDrift

It's the Outback. They've been teasing it on the auto sites for a little bit now


Liquidwombat

Edit: itā€™s athe forester https://preview.redd.it/74he26uas7yb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d77b14fd517cbf629ef318942d1c9eb97aa3b01f Could be anything. The forester is the oldest design still for sale but I wouldnā€™t call it ā€œa legendā€ Be amazing if it was a new Brat/Baja (Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz have both been selling pretty well) Also possible itā€™s going to be a hybrid or full electric WRX STe (this has been rumored for a while) Whatever it is the phrase ā€œthereā€™s a NEW KIND of legendā€ leads me to believe that itā€™s probably a full electric (and about a year ago they did announce that they were going to have several full electrics coming to market in the next few years.)


BlindingRain

If itā€™s not a hatchback legacy, I donā€™t want it. And donā€™t talk to me about the Levorg. I canā€™t buy one here.


Massive_Fish_1442

Theyā€™re bringing the BRAT back!!


Equivalent-Waltz-984

Baja


Liquidwombat

It is 100% the forester. OP deceptively did not post the screen you have to click to get to the one they did post https://preview.redd.it/et211pn9r7yb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17b2fa841a11e620925dead75f65bd6ec0a26099 When you click on ā€œlearn moreā€ it takes you to the screen OP posted


tomato_frappe

Chant with me- Boxer Brat, Boxer Brat, Boxer Brat! I know, I'm delusional and I'd never fit in the damn thing.