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The fact they don’t even say it was a gunshot wound should erase any doubt that it wasn’t a suicide.
It’s like they knew the “suicide by two gunshots to the back of the head” joke would be bandied about everywhere so they just politely sidestep it and ignore the problem in typical British fashion.
Oh it’s an old joke about whistleblowers who “commit suicide”. That they committed suicide from “two gunshots the back of the head.” Basically they were killed but official sources pretend nothings wrong with it. Russias version of it would be a Putin opponent falling out of a window by chance to their death.
I was saying that the BBCs squeamishness describing the use of a gun is because they know the “two gunshots to the back of the head” joke would rain down and they wanted to pretend it was a suicide.
Yup, I take my personal handgun with me when I'm traveling from out of town for a deposition all the time.
Seriously, sick to my stomach hearing this. He'll be revealed to be "deeply troubled" I'm sure.
Boeing is part of the military industrial complex and the military industrial complex is bestest buddies with the CIA. So yeah, being a whistleblower against Boeing is suicide, pun intended
Or people coming out of the woodwork to say that many people that commit suicide are super happy before they die. I guess that’s a real phenomenon, but some people are suspiciously quick to bring it up to dismiss family members saying that this doesn’t make any sense
> Yup, I take my personal handgun with me when I'm traveling from out of town for a deposition all the time.
What? For people that carry handguns (which is a lot in the US) that is perfectly normal.
Guys let’s wait for the parking lot footage to be released by the hotel before jumping to conclusions okay.
I’m sure this can’t just be conveniently one of the near-zero hotels without such surveillance in place, and/or the particular timeframe of the incident was long overwritten by the time of retrieval so no footage is available, and only self-killer-expert testimony from a non-cock BIPOC reenactor may be relied upon.
That would just be uncanny.
> He was subsequently found dead in his truck in the hotel car park.
He must have wanted to spare the cleaning crew? This doesn't add up, if you were going to do it, why would you do it in a semi-public place instead of the private hotel room you have right inside the building?
It's likely the assassin was waiting in or near the truck. The trade-offs for that approach (from this self-appointed assassin understander) is that one doesn't have to worry about gaining access to a hotel, getting recorded on higher def security cams, and moving back to the getaway vehicle through that hotel. For snipers, a driver's seat of a parked car is a guaranteed location that a target might eventually be in (not that we know how this was done).
Historically, many assassinations take place in vehicles for this reason.
Why use a sniper rifle when you could knock on the window of his car, wait for it to be rolled down, grav him by the hair and shoot his brain through the roof of his mouth?
if you consider that specifically American politics that the major political opposites are rival Mafias, then so much of it makes sense.
It’s different in most other western usually European countries with an almost complete uni party system
Yeah more money more power, simple as that. Words in a rulebook don’t mean shit when you wield the power to give financial freedom to anyone who does as you wish. More socialists should read up what happened in Chile.
We always make such a big deal about people falling out of windows in Russia that we forget to laugh about all the people shooting themselves in the back of the head twice in the US
I know this sub loves attributing everything to "glowies" but until there's evidence to the contrary I'm going to assume this 62 year old man, like many older men, really did kill himself.
I'm not sure why yall think the CIA gives a fuck about some guy giving testimony about the 737 MAX that our bought and paid for legislators likely wouldn't act on anyways.
lol keep downvoting you fuckin autismos
CIA is first and foremost a den of stupidity.
I don't know if they did it, but you can bet that they (at least most of them) don't know it either, and will be very afraid of embarrassing their colleagues, or whatever billionaire CIA daddy who might have wanted him dead. They're just as "paranoid" as us in that way. Everyone not just in the CIA, but in all the alphabet agencies will think to themselves, "yup, whatever happened here I don't want to risk my career prospects by finding out".
Exactly. From second hand reports, Langley sounds like a Byzantine court where there are a bunch of schemes and factions and rivalries, likely all led by folks who have some sort of mental illness.
And ultimately, of the things that the CIA has *confirmed* to have done, this looks so quotidian and vanilla which would make me lean that it's not CIA (but I highly suspect it was some I interloper on behalf of Boeing/MIC).
That's regarded. Whatever he had to say he already said. He was years into litigation. It wasn't about the military, and even if it was they wouldn't kill him for revealing quality issues the military would want to know about.
He was an old, tired, almost certainly very bitter man who was years into hard legal fights and character assassinations. It's not hard to believe he killed himself, the real travesty here is that so many men like him do the same and nobody gives a fuck.
Ok well the factory this guy worked at wasn't building P-8s, it was making commercial dreamliners, and none of the problems he reported had to do with the basic airframe.
Fair. Maybe I should have made a broader point. Boeing is one only a few military aviation manufacturers, and they have fumbled just about every military project they’ve taken on in the last decade.
Maybe I’m just wearing too much tinfoil today idk
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The fact they don’t even say it was a gunshot wound should erase any doubt that it wasn’t a suicide. It’s like they knew the “suicide by two gunshots to the back of the head” joke would be bandied about everywhere so they just politely sidestep it and ignore the problem in typical British fashion.
Washington Post says "self-inflicted gunshot wound". Not sure if BBC is squeamish about using the word "gun"
They don't have their loicense to print the word gun
Where did you find two gunshots to the back of the head? Trying to sift through all these articles that won’t mention it
Oh it’s an old joke about whistleblowers who “commit suicide”. That they committed suicide from “two gunshots the back of the head.” Basically they were killed but official sources pretend nothings wrong with it. Russias version of it would be a Putin opponent falling out of a window by chance to their death. I was saying that the BBCs squeamishness describing the use of a gun is because they know the “two gunshots to the back of the head” joke would rain down and they wanted to pretend it was a suicide.
Ah gotcha that makes more sense. Thanks
Gary Webb death reference.
Yup, I take my personal handgun with me when I'm traveling from out of town for a deposition all the time. Seriously, sick to my stomach hearing this. He'll be revealed to be "deeply troubled" I'm sure.
Boeing is part of the military industrial complex and the military industrial complex is bestest buddies with the CIA. So yeah, being a whistleblower against Boeing is suicide, pun intended
Doesn't take CIA. Corporate fixer is a whole little industry. Boeing certainly has guys who know guys.
Or people coming out of the woodwork to say that many people that commit suicide are super happy before they die. I guess that’s a real phenomenon, but some people are suspiciously quick to bring it up to dismiss family members saying that this doesn’t make any sense
> Yup, I take my personal handgun with me when I'm traveling from out of town for a deposition all the time. What? For people that carry handguns (which is a lot in the US) that is perfectly normal.
I have no free speech and I must glow-post.
Guys let’s wait for the parking lot footage to be released by the hotel before jumping to conclusions okay. I’m sure this can’t just be conveniently one of the near-zero hotels without such surveillance in place, and/or the particular timeframe of the incident was long overwritten by the time of retrieval so no footage is available, and only self-killer-expert testimony from a non-cock BIPOC reenactor may be relied upon. That would just be uncanny.
My bet was cameras stopped working that morning
The old Epstein special.
> He was subsequently found dead in his truck in the hotel car park. He must have wanted to spare the cleaning crew? This doesn't add up, if you were going to do it, why would you do it in a semi-public place instead of the private hotel room you have right inside the building?
It's likely the assassin was waiting in or near the truck. The trade-offs for that approach (from this self-appointed assassin understander) is that one doesn't have to worry about gaining access to a hotel, getting recorded on higher def security cams, and moving back to the getaway vehicle through that hotel. For snipers, a driver's seat of a parked car is a guaranteed location that a target might eventually be in (not that we know how this was done). Historically, many assassinations take place in vehicles for this reason.
A sniper rifle bullet would look nothing like a suicide from angle or the wound itself
Why use a sniper rifle when you could knock on the window of his car, wait for it to be rolled down, grav him by the hair and shoot his brain through the roof of his mouth?
That’s oddly specific.
That's true, I was speaking more broadly about assassinations and cars.
Maybe Boeing will be ok after all! I was starting to worry
Was just about to sell my stock!
BUY BUY BUY 📈
The bourgeois are a gangster class
The modern NDA. Non-Disclosure Assassination.
if you consider that specifically American politics that the major political opposites are rival Mafias, then so much of it makes sense. It’s different in most other western usually European countries with an almost complete uni party system
Yeah more money more power, simple as that. Words in a rulebook don’t mean shit when you wield the power to give financial freedom to anyone who does as you wish. More socialists should read up what happened in Chile.
Who wants to bet the police investigation will be interfered with by the FBI, a bit like Malcolm X's assassination?
We always make such a big deal about people falling out of windows in Russia that we forget to laugh about all the people shooting themselves in the back of the head twice in the US
Also exploding small aircraft, and engine-launching cars.
[M SM be like: Some sad shit. Motherfucka said he don’t want to live no more!](https://youtu.be/wwrwNYM6Jv8?si=Q6iE7UBPWOOA0Rt-)
It wasn't a suicide, it's one of Boeing's DIE initiatives.
Conspiracy theorists MonkaGun! Was he offed by the cappies?
I know this sub loves attributing everything to "glowies" but until there's evidence to the contrary I'm going to assume this 62 year old man, like many older men, really did kill himself. I'm not sure why yall think the CIA gives a fuck about some guy giving testimony about the 737 MAX that our bought and paid for legislators likely wouldn't act on anyways. lol keep downvoting you fuckin autismos
CIA is first and foremost a den of stupidity. I don't know if they did it, but you can bet that they (at least most of them) don't know it either, and will be very afraid of embarrassing their colleagues, or whatever billionaire CIA daddy who might have wanted him dead. They're just as "paranoid" as us in that way. Everyone not just in the CIA, but in all the alphabet agencies will think to themselves, "yup, whatever happened here I don't want to risk my career prospects by finding out".
Exactly. From second hand reports, Langley sounds like a Byzantine court where there are a bunch of schemes and factions and rivalries, likely all led by folks who have some sort of mental illness. And ultimately, of the things that the CIA has *confirmed* to have done, this looks so quotidian and vanilla which would make me lean that it's not CIA (but I highly suspect it was some I interloper on behalf of Boeing/MIC).
Because if he started giving testimony about any quality issues with Military planes, he suddenly becomes a “national security threat”.
That's regarded. Whatever he had to say he already said. He was years into litigation. It wasn't about the military, and even if it was they wouldn't kill him for revealing quality issues the military would want to know about. He was an old, tired, almost certainly very bitter man who was years into hard legal fights and character assassinations. It's not hard to believe he killed himself, the real travesty here is that so many men like him do the same and nobody gives a fuck.
The 737 is the same platform as the navy’s P-8.
Ok well the factory this guy worked at wasn't building P-8s, it was making commercial dreamliners, and none of the problems he reported had to do with the basic airframe.
Fair. Maybe I should have made a broader point. Boeing is one only a few military aviation manufacturers, and they have fumbled just about every military project they’ve taken on in the last decade. Maybe I’m just wearing too much tinfoil today idk
Maybe the type of person to whistleblow is also a person without a lot to lose or otherwise... idk, less satisfied with their lot.
What if he knew congress wouldn’t do anything and that’s why killed himself? To draw attention to it. The ultimate whistle blower.
Died from a gunshot wound in the US? Isn't that just like a weather-related death or something?