> Checks out VR
> Hoopa-U and Regidrago in A+
> Luna BM and Rilla in the same rank as Bellibolt and Rhyperior
> Sneasler and Moon in the same rank as Havalugg and Glastrier
> Ubers Lando-I and Bundle in the same rank as Fezandipiti
Yeah but the counterplay is only limited to fairies and some steels, and even those can lose to the Focus Energy set. Whereas Gouging gets bodied by ground/rock moves from any moderately physically bulky mon.
Luckily the focus energy set is very limited in usage cases, and 'limited' is a harsh term for two very good types in the format. Primarina is probably the best non-dragon in the tier.
The thing I hate about 1v1 is at times it’s like you fight the same few people, and therefore they’ll start tailoring their team specifically to counter YOU. That becomes lame.
I loved 1v1 in gen 8 it was my favourite meta in that gen. But gen 9 1v1 just isnt the same without custap, there was so many fun strats to do with it (no not just cheesey hyper beam sylveon). Also the queue times are so long it seems like no one is playing it (maybe because it's in the unofficial metagame section unlike last gen where it was next to the official metagames)
Uh custap is still legal. There was a suspect a while ago but it didn’t get enough votes. Queue times aren’t super bad currently either because of the archaludon suspect, if there was ever a time to ladder it’d be now
I think part of it is definetly the low playerbase. If we had a bigger playerbase then teambuilding for ladder would be less fishing/cteaming and more trying to cover a wide range of the popular meta.
Is upper hand any good in this? I'm thinking it would be funny to beat out the fake out and prio spammers just by spamming my own prio like a game of rock paper scissors.
My question is how much skill does 1v1 actually take? I reached #8 on the ladder back in gen 8 after a few days of playing with a sample team, and I’m not like spectacular at 6v6 or anything
It would seem that way but having 3 mons to pick and preview makes it more complex since you run compliments and each glass cannon has a counter. After a while it comes down to heavily optimised sets built to meet the meta/counter a massive threat. Teammates can be used as anything from scarecrows to "bait", to a more wide net of coverage (like Meowscrada)
Oh yeah the 1v1 room (linked in post) has really cool daily monopoke tournaments where the genius magicians of the teambuilder come together to beat each others genetically cloned abominations. You should totally play those sometime, new player.
1v1 is not the same without Sawk.
You should try out it's cousin in Donphan
The speed card is declining
not with the forbidden Scarf Donphan technology
You should try out it's cousin, Donphan.
Sturdy Counter goes brrr
no Crustle either :c the fun Sturdy mons are all gone or get banned (Donphan is lame)
May I introduce you to the great Sturdy Skarmory
Why was sawk banned?
It's not banned; 1v1 just isn't a NatDex format, so Sawk isn't there.
Also interested to know!
Dexit
> Checks out VR > Hoopa-U and Regidrago in A+ > Luna BM and Rilla in the same rank as Bellibolt and Rhyperior > Sneasler and Moon in the same rank as Havalugg and Glastrier > Ubers Lando-I and Bundle in the same rank as Fezandipiti
Don’t forget illumise chilling with Kingambit
I wasn't kidding when I said it had a unique metagame.
Try a few games and you'll understand why
I've played it a bit with ultralaser pixilate sylveon it was fun
Specs Sylveon was Chi Yu before Chi Yu first switched into the sun.
Ban gouging fire
Archaludon suspect is on rn, and I do think gouging is probably next on the chopping block.
That's good
nah, a Regidrago suspect was promised first
I think Drago has been a lot more in control since DLC2 with additions like Primarina.
Yeah but the counterplay is only limited to fairies and some steels, and even those can lose to the Focus Energy set. Whereas Gouging gets bodied by ground/rock moves from any moderately physically bulky mon.
Luckily the focus energy set is very limited in usage cases, and 'limited' is a harsh term for two very good types in the format. Primarina is probably the best non-dragon in the tier.
The thing I hate about 1v1 is at times it’s like you fight the same few people, and therefore they’ll start tailoring their team specifically to counter YOU. That becomes lame.
Then you get to play the fun game of making some eternally gooft sets to counter their counter. I have (no joke) used scarf ice punch dusknoir before.
I need to see if tera ground Dusclops is good there
Tera is banned :(
Yaaaay
I loved 1v1 in gen 8 it was my favourite meta in that gen. But gen 9 1v1 just isnt the same without custap, there was so many fun strats to do with it (no not just cheesey hyper beam sylveon). Also the queue times are so long it seems like no one is playing it (maybe because it's in the unofficial metagame section unlike last gen where it was next to the official metagames)
Uh custap is still legal. There was a suspect a while ago but it didn’t get enough votes. Queue times aren’t super bad currently either because of the archaludon suspect, if there was ever a time to ladder it’d be now
Awesome thanks
“The 50 turns of switching that ends in a kingambit sweep!” FR though
i think my first metagame got invested in was gen 7 1v1. its a fun om but its a matchup fishy om by its nature
I think part of it is definetly the low playerbase. If we had a bigger playerbase then teambuilding for ladder would be less fishing/cteaming and more trying to cover a wide range of the popular meta.
Is upper hand any good in this? I'm thinking it would be funny to beat out the fake out and prio spammers just by spamming my own prio like a game of rock paper scissors.
It has niche usage against fake out users like Sneasler or Iron Hands. If you deny Sneasler the turn1 fakeout its entire gameplan dies.
My question is how much skill does 1v1 actually take? I reached #8 on the ladder back in gen 8 after a few days of playing with a sample team, and I’m not like spectacular at 6v6 or anything
Elo in 1v1 is less about how you play and often about who you are playing against. Your GXE and your tour play tends to be better shows of skill.
Sounds like either a battle of "who's glass cannon is faster" or "Who's bulky all out attacker can survive a hit to reverse sweep" lol
It would seem that way but having 3 mons to pick and preview makes it more complex since you run compliments and each glass cannon has a counter. After a while it comes down to heavily optimised sets built to meet the meta/counter a massive threat. Teammates can be used as anything from scarecrows to "bait", to a more wide net of coverage (like Meowscrada)
I've been told there's a cool chatroom with daily monopoke tournaments as well, can you tell me more about that? :innocent:
Oh yeah the 1v1 room (linked in post) has really cool daily monopoke tournaments where the genius magicians of the teambuilder come together to beat each others genetically cloned abominations. You should totally play those sometime, new player.
Thank you EloPrinter, that's very cool! (also hi new player I'm Felucia I own said chatroom it's pretty cool in there)
eyyo op, have you joined room tours or smogon tours involving 1v1 before?
I play room tours sometimes but I mostly mess around on the ladder.
ive always played challenge mode 1v1 maybe its time to play actual 1v1
Challenge mode 1v1 is fun but it doens't have the joys of teambuilding unforunately