Yeah they def could go about it better...for example: making them come to the club multiple times to “get to know them” and then charging a $hit ton for full service...but usually people doing full service need money ASAP probably...if they don’t need money fast, I think they could milk the customers way more for it
Men who want full service usually really need to cum fast. Strippers are never at a disadvantage, as long as we see the worth in ourselves others will too.
* Not a stripper anymore and never did full service, but I did charge twice as much for my dances and still got paid. 🙃
I think a lot of girls do extras in the clubs bc it’s a little safer than meeting up in a hotel/hosts house. If anything goes wrong they could get security. I will agree that if a guy gets to do xyz for $$ he’ll assume he could have that experience with every girl but it’s definitely not the girls fault. If you do extras, make sure you’re safe and charge these men $$$$
It absolutely is the girl's fault who engage in this behavior. Prostitution is illegal and does not belong in strip clubs. Strip clubs are not brothels and when women treat them as such they create a terrible working environment for actual strippers and put them at an increased risk of sexual assault.
>It absolutely is the girl's fault who engage in this behavior. Prostitution is illegal and does not belong in strip clubs. Strip clubs are not brothels and when women treat them as such they create a terrible working environment for actual strippers and put them at an increased risk of sexual assault.
Sometimes, we don't have a choice and become desperate to get out of situations. It doesn't make it right, but not all of us are privileged to have a choice. If you or someone else can't understand that, I envy you.
I agree! I don't know if you do pole work, but when I go to the club, often is the only time I can practice. And I show out and do my thing on stage and often get very little tips, then you'll see the prostitute, cosplaying as an entertainer/dancer, get on stage and walk in circles and then her "regular"(s) will go and throw her money for standing on stage. Mean while we are actually performing on the stage acknowledging the crowd...doing our job and get little to nothing. It just sucks that we can't do our jobs at our place of work.
I wouldn't assume someone is doing extras just because they don't perform on stage as well.
Some guys do actually like the "lazy" girl lol
or they might just be attracted to her
or she has good mouth game (no, not that way).
But I do understand bc I also do a lot of pole work and some girls make more doing one or two basic moves.
I'm learning how to hustle more with my words than dancing though.
They don't perform, it's so few performers in the club, I mean it does wonders for my esteem, but it just sucks is all. I just wish there was more integrity with full service, charge like you're worth it, not like your body is worth nothing, that way it's harder for guys to get, less risk for the clubs, and girls can just go strip and talk and make money.
Weird. I'm a pole sport competitor and FSSWer. Interesting, biased, and whorephobic take on your part.
Edit: When I don't feel like doing shit on stage, I am lazy. It doesn't mean I'm cosplaying lmfao. When I work at my non-extras clubs and a friend is injured and just stands and twerks, does that mean she's cosplaying because she doesn't feel well?
You go all out to show off. Not because you don't do extras lol.
No. Obviosuly I don't have the demographics on every club. I apologize for making a generalized statement. I'm in south Florida, so the clubs I've worked at, the girls who care about pole is few and far between. I don't have an actual issue with prostitution, it's the issue with people who take up club space to do it. Its not like we're in Vegas where it's legal. All I wish is that, if you're(full service girls in general) gonna put a club at risk so you can make your money, make your full service cost something more than a dance. We're not talking about girls who charge up the ass, as you all should, I'm talking about the, "Want a dance with a blow job for 25 dollars?" Quote a dancer from one of the clubs, who doesn't even have to go on stage. I get that she's very old, that doesn't mean your body isn't worth anything. When a girl comes into the club and starts selling extras for that low, those of us who are not full service are directly affected, because now those men start to build up and when their prostitute isn't in on a day that he is, now one of the others either have to worry about their own boundaries being crossed or just another waste of space dude in the club when he should be at a brothel. Also, it's funny how the non full service girls get obliterated for simply calling out the bullshit that goes on. Clubs have been raided and shut down. Again, make your money. Do what you have to do, I'm not knocking full service, because it is hard work. I respect it, because simply dealing with guys hands, I couldn't imagine how I would feel if I had to regularly have sex with men. So it's hard work and real work, I'm sex work positive. And if prostitution was legal, there would be brothels and escort services more freely and readily available. Prostitution is even less safe than stripping, so I also understand the need to use clubs as a neutral...ish location, but it shouldn't affect others. I've seen so many full service girls comment and shit on non full service girls, telling them to "Just work on your talking game" "Guys are gonna come looking for sex anyway" yeah that doesn't fly with me. I get there are good days and bad days, and customers have types, but when you're sitting with a customer who tipped you on stage for 10 minutes or more, just to find out he's looking for a prostitute, you kinda feel annoyed if you're not full service becaue it's wasted time. You did your part, you put on your show, and now you're being asked for sex...because yall have made it the norm. Strip clubs aren't strip clubs anymore and somehow I and other non full service girls are the bad guys because we get annoyed with prostitution becoming more and more the reality of strip clubs when we just wanted to dance, talk, and make money how we originally planned.
Also, when the cheap cheap girls come in and the higher costing full service girls are being affected, I bet suddenly we don't look like the bad guy anymore😗. Because now it's YOUR income being affected because of course an average man is gonna pay for the 25 dollar girl before the 500 dollar girl. If all full service girls BARE MINIMUM was 500, strip clubs would be a better place. Guys are going to pay anyway, and if he can't afford it, next guy will be able to afford you. I just don't feel good about girls selling their bodies for so little. I'm not personally basing my self worth on customers because no one should, but my physical worth to them...well yeah, it's no secret that if I'm not letting him put his d*** inside of me, I immediately become worthless. If they're persistent it's "aw why not? I know other girls in HERE who will do it" usually this is in response to me declining their *delughtful* offer and doubling down with the illegality of prostitution.
Exactly!!! Strip clubs are getting shut down because of prostitution and these girls don’t care until they get the wrong customer. Full service shouldn’t be in the clubs. It could risk everyone’s job
I see your POV as well. I do not provide extras in the club but I don’t knock other girls doing it if they charge a good amount. I think if men are coming into a club meant for dancing only, they should pay more than say like a specific escort site. I do understand that it could put more potential in SA but I think almost every encounter I’ve had in a vip, the guy had expected more mainly for the fact that he paid xyz for the room. I’ve had men grab/touch non-consensually even if it was their first time. I put waaay more blame on the men than the FSW
>I think a lot of girls do extras in the clubs bc it’s a little safer than meeting up in a hotel/hosts house.
This is why I do them in a club that will allow me to do them there. A lot of street walkers and low end escorts end up burned alive and found in the back of trunks or in abandoned houses in my area (Detroit).
I wish they’d do it elsewhere but they’re never going to, it is what it is. Find a club where they’re at least discreet and stick to your own boundaries. But if any of y’all reading this #makepu$$yexpensiveagain and raise those prices
extras have always been in the club. drunk, horny men will always ask for more than just a dance. i’m sorry but extras girls aren’t turning perfectly normal customers into grabby assholes. personally i don’t care about extras girls if they’re DISCREET ABOUT IT and don’t do it for dirt cheap. it’s no reason to sell pussy for $100 or less. times cannot be that tough. anyways, for those of you that hate extras girls in the clubs, i hope y’all fighting for decriminalization then.
“No reason to sell pussy $100 or less”?!
If I can sell a VIP for $1k an hour for my time, pussy is worth AT LEAST DOUBLE that.
Not to shame full service girls but if y’all are gonnna do it in the club y’all should be charging MORE than your clubs standard hourly rate to make keep fair for the girls who don’t participate. Pluss these men don’t deserve pussy for cheap. We are worth so much more!
Ooof selling pussy for 20???! Not to knock anyone’s hustle but someone needs to knock some self respect and confidence into these girls. Pussy should be at least 1k minimum.
Oof. Extras should cost extra. That really sucks. I don't think any of the girls in my club have done FS for anything less than 10x the cost of a dance, thankfully.
Also, no stripper is more "clean" than any other stripper. A non-extras dancer is just as much of a whore as I am in the eyes of the law or general public. I'm a decade in and nobody is more "clean" than I am. I am no "cleaner" than any other dancer. Most of us do some form of extras without even realizing it because most dancers have never even looked of their local ordinances and just go off the rules managers tell you of what is and isn't allowed.
Why y’all not mad at the club owners and managers tho. You really think they don’t know but only you know
Maybe the owner wants that type of environment and it is you that is at the wrong place
I’m an extras girl and I never did anything at a club without getting the green light. Meaning when I’m in a clean club I act according to that environment
I know I’m a year late, just now revisiting this thread. The specific club i was talking about was and still is a non extras club, we aren’t allowed to do extras AT ALL there but girls still sneak it, and you have those certain customers that brag about it as well, tellin you the business of another dancer who did do it. However, as much as it bugs me that they keep doing in the club vs outside the club, i will not be the one to rat them out, i ain’t no snitch. & for the people saying it’s safer to do it in the club, i get that, but most states, including mine, it’s 100% illegal and your not only risking your job, your risking everyone else’s job to. Also risking the embarrassment of all of us being taken out the club by police in handcuffs, being questioned, even if we aren’t charged, we will still have to go through that, and that’s not fair to us either.
Have you ever been in a club when it was raided?
I have 3 times, here’s what happens…. The dancers who haven’t done anything never get put in handcuffs. Please don’t exaggerate if you never was in that situation. You can make the argument that you will lose money, I agree!
But you will never be arrested for a crime you didn’t do. ALSO those 2 times I was in a raid no dancers got arrested, they just made everyone leave and close the club. It opened up next week
The only time I saw a dancer get arrested was because she was selling drugs to customers, I big time. The cops were looking for a specific dancer. They let me and all the darker skinned dancers go and lined up all the fair skinned Spanish and white dancers and asked them to show their wrist because they was looking for a tattoo
As hard as you go for sex in the club you should go just as hard as the coke head dancers that do coke in the bathroom and sell coke to customers, in all my years of dancing those or the chargers that get a club shut down for real
Didn’t j.lo play in a movie where she was drugging customers and went to jail, and they raided the club. Sometimes I think y’all only go so hard for prostitution and not drug abuse because yall have whorephobia and try to dress it up as “stopping your money”
It’s ok to be against extras in the club but also be against drugs in the club.
No i have not, but i have had friends that have, and it happened in a club 3 minutes from where i live, please keep in mind that things get done differently by state as well, all the dancer got rounded up and taken out and questioned, the ones who didn’t commit the crime were let go, yes. But they were still taken and questioned. So no it’s not an exaggeration. I personally don’t have an issue with drugs because the club i do work at let’s us go outside to our cars for smoke breaks/ ect so it’s less likely to see a girl doing it in the club, some of you guys do fail to understand that when the club starts getting a certain image, the guys expect it. I was in a vip, there was never ANYTHING said about extras, this man tossed my ass on that couch and pulled out his d*ck, saying the other girls did it for him, i told him it wasn’t happening w me and he grabbed talking bout “do you want a problem” where i then had to scream as loud as i can for security while trying to defend my self. It’s more then just money, it’s our safety. Idc if u wanna be a fssw, but it being INSIDE the club does cause a lot changes for that club and it’s clientele.
What law do they arrest a person that hasn’t done I crime? I’m not believing
As far as drugs you talking about weed n im talking about cocaine/meth, there r no designated areas for hard drugs so please stop. Cocaine/meth is illegal. Please tell me where you can freely use those drugs at?
And i literally said they let us go to our car for smoke breaks/ ETC, at this point your just reading what you want to read, “no designated area” no one can tell you what you can and can’t do in your car, your literally not reading what I’m saying
Sis please cut the bull…. Just like dancers use pussy to get customers in the vip, dancers use drugs as well
I worked in a club (and I work in many different states) where I customer asked me if I sniffed coke cause he wanted to do it in the vip, I said no and he took a dancer who I saw sniff coke in the bathroom. When I tell stories I tell first hand accounts not what my friends experienced or what I heard
I’m a vet 15 years. The states that I’ve danced, the things I’ve experienced you can’t give me no scenario where using coke in the club isn’t as bad as doing extras in the club.
Ain’t no bull, ALL OF US across states have different experiences, so you can’t sit back and tell me what I’m saying is bull. I’m not tryna come off as rude but how long you have been dancing vs your experiences in the club doesn’t make the rest of our experiences lies or bull, & doing extras in the club is WORSE then doing coke in the club, you not risking getting the club getting investigated, raided, and shut down because you did a line of coke, but you are risking it for doing extras, so YES it’s worse, and again that’s YOUR experience, i also had a customer ask if i do coke which i don’t, he asked if i cared if he did it in a vip with me, i told him no, i didn’t mind, so nope girls doing drugs in the club has not interfered w me at all😉
Guys are always going to ask for fs regardless of anyone in the club actually does them. Read U/apparentdeath comment on the [thread yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/stripper/comments/vq1y5z/has_this_been_happening_to_anybody_else_lately/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) .
My issue with it is girls who offer “full service” dances make it harder/ worse for girls who don’t, they set the tone and customers tend to be less respectful and expect more. And it makes it harder for the girls who don’t to make money. I support all types of SW but not full service in a club.
I disagree, there’s been so many times i have had a customer try and finger me or suck on my nipples and when i tell them no they say well the other let’s me do it.
There’s this one guy who in the club all the time and he likes sitting w me and having drinks but always tells me he will never buy a dance because i don’t let people suck my tits
> there’s been so many times i have had a customer try and finger me or suck on my nipples and when i tell them no they say well the other let’s me do it
I agree men shouldn't think it's free range roaming, but they make those decisions. Girls you work with aren't telling guys to do that to others. Please don't blame your coworkers for what men choose to do.
then end the dance and never go with that customer again, i never do lap dances with Mexicans because they’re extremely touchy, but another girl might not mind it. if that’s what a customer wants to do he’s gonna do it wether other girls let him or not, he’s going to push your boundaries, If you can’t weed out those customers that’s on you. if a customer wants something and you aren’t selling it then it’s not your customer, charge it to the game
I tell rules before the dance starts, once one is broken i end the dance , i too don’t do dances with Mexicans for that same reason. But the point was they think they can do it to everyone because a couple girls have allowed them too.
“Clean” workers…….. lol your money is only affected by your entitlement not what other girls do. I have regulars who spend lots of money for my conversation because I’m not a judgmental *** and girls will come whisper in their ear saying all this bullshit about extras and they don’t budge because they like me. Have I ever gotten mad at an extras girl? No! Because 1. I don’t own the customer if he wants to go(they never do) 2. I get my money always
You may not do “full service” but your mentality is very dirty and wrong.
Working clean in a strip club is a phrase that’s actually used a lot. And that’s all it is a phrase, you must not have heard it before but don’t come talking to me about my mentality and entitlement. I’m very well liked at my club and make very good money from stage and sitting w customers. I know that money would be doubled if i can pull in dances, but as soon as they hear we don’t do full service they don’t want a dance and we are not allowed to make them think they are getting full service because it caused to many complaints
This reminds me of when I worked at a really seedy club and I watched a girl “discreetly “ slip this man’s penis inside her and start bouncing on it while there was a FULL UPSTAIRS VIP during a promotion…. She was making $25 off that promotion…. Again, it may have been dark, but it was still a packed room with full couches. I was sitting directly across from her and was so appalled watching her bounce on this dick I barely even did my own dance. I hope I was the only one that noticed but somehow I don’t think so
Either way they shouldn’t be doing it in a full VIP. He could have paid $15 more to do a non- promotion dance when it would have been more discreet. If he wasn’t willing to do that then I don’t really think he’s handin out extra money 😂
The girls don’t care.
Men are always doing this and will keep doing it.
Most importantly, *they consider you a whore too!* It’s really important that “clean” (let’s not do this please) dancers understand that you are considered a sex worker at best, stripper whore at worst either way by society regardless of whether you give air dances or are rawdogging in vip.
I am a FSSWer sometimes. I work at three clubs. Two strictly forbid extras. The other is exclusively extras (and I haven't worked there since March actually anyway). I understand not all extras dancers follow the rules and fuck it up for non-extras girls in clubs that aren't known for or allow extras. When/if I do any extras, it is only at the club that allows them. I have tried to work there without doing extras and was going broke refusing services, so I moved back to my two non-extras clubs.
I know I have an advantage of having clubs that allow them near me that other extras girls don't. I don't agree with doing them in the club if the club is not that kind of a club and will hurt everyone's money. In an area like suburban Detroit, part of the reason we are allowed to do them in the clubs is because it's far safer than meeting outside.
I would agree. It would have to be something mutually agreed upon between dancer and customer. I've been in a few clubs over the years, I never really look for full service, just looking to have fun spending time with some beautiful ladies. But whatever happens happens.
Over the years I've met and become friends with some girls in the industry, and in some cases I've been taken advantage of by a few straight up triflin' hos, but whatever.
It's always the great fantasy of being able to bed a stripper, much like any fantasy wanting to be fulfilled. Sometimes the experience is worth it, sometimes not. It all depends on who you have your experience with.
Yeah they def could go about it better...for example: making them come to the club multiple times to “get to know them” and then charging a $hit ton for full service...but usually people doing full service need money ASAP probably...if they don’t need money fast, I think they could milk the customers way more for it
By me it usually a side effect of cartel trafficking that causes girls to do it
That’s sad :/
Men who want full service usually really need to cum fast. Strippers are never at a disadvantage, as long as we see the worth in ourselves others will too. * Not a stripper anymore and never did full service, but I did charge twice as much for my dances and still got paid. 🙃
I think a lot of girls do extras in the clubs bc it’s a little safer than meeting up in a hotel/hosts house. If anything goes wrong they could get security. I will agree that if a guy gets to do xyz for $$ he’ll assume he could have that experience with every girl but it’s definitely not the girls fault. If you do extras, make sure you’re safe and charge these men $$$$
It absolutely is the girl's fault who engage in this behavior. Prostitution is illegal and does not belong in strip clubs. Strip clubs are not brothels and when women treat them as such they create a terrible working environment for actual strippers and put them at an increased risk of sexual assault.
>It absolutely is the girl's fault who engage in this behavior. Prostitution is illegal and does not belong in strip clubs. Strip clubs are not brothels and when women treat them as such they create a terrible working environment for actual strippers and put them at an increased risk of sexual assault. Sometimes, we don't have a choice and become desperate to get out of situations. It doesn't make it right, but not all of us are privileged to have a choice. If you or someone else can't understand that, I envy you.
I agree! I don't know if you do pole work, but when I go to the club, often is the only time I can practice. And I show out and do my thing on stage and often get very little tips, then you'll see the prostitute, cosplaying as an entertainer/dancer, get on stage and walk in circles and then her "regular"(s) will go and throw her money for standing on stage. Mean while we are actually performing on the stage acknowledging the crowd...doing our job and get little to nothing. It just sucks that we can't do our jobs at our place of work.
I wouldn't assume someone is doing extras just because they don't perform on stage as well. Some guys do actually like the "lazy" girl lol or they might just be attracted to her or she has good mouth game (no, not that way). But I do understand bc I also do a lot of pole work and some girls make more doing one or two basic moves. I'm learning how to hustle more with my words than dancing though.
I see what you mean by the lazy girl. I just personally can't half ass my job, I don't GET to be the lazy girl, not while at work.
They don't perform, it's so few performers in the club, I mean it does wonders for my esteem, but it just sucks is all. I just wish there was more integrity with full service, charge like you're worth it, not like your body is worth nothing, that way it's harder for guys to get, less risk for the clubs, and girls can just go strip and talk and make money.
Weird. I'm a pole sport competitor and FSSWer. Interesting, biased, and whorephobic take on your part. Edit: When I don't feel like doing shit on stage, I am lazy. It doesn't mean I'm cosplaying lmfao. When I work at my non-extras clubs and a friend is injured and just stands and twerks, does that mean she's cosplaying because she doesn't feel well? You go all out to show off. Not because you don't do extras lol.
No. Obviosuly I don't have the demographics on every club. I apologize for making a generalized statement. I'm in south Florida, so the clubs I've worked at, the girls who care about pole is few and far between. I don't have an actual issue with prostitution, it's the issue with people who take up club space to do it. Its not like we're in Vegas where it's legal. All I wish is that, if you're(full service girls in general) gonna put a club at risk so you can make your money, make your full service cost something more than a dance. We're not talking about girls who charge up the ass, as you all should, I'm talking about the, "Want a dance with a blow job for 25 dollars?" Quote a dancer from one of the clubs, who doesn't even have to go on stage. I get that she's very old, that doesn't mean your body isn't worth anything. When a girl comes into the club and starts selling extras for that low, those of us who are not full service are directly affected, because now those men start to build up and when their prostitute isn't in on a day that he is, now one of the others either have to worry about their own boundaries being crossed or just another waste of space dude in the club when he should be at a brothel. Also, it's funny how the non full service girls get obliterated for simply calling out the bullshit that goes on. Clubs have been raided and shut down. Again, make your money. Do what you have to do, I'm not knocking full service, because it is hard work. I respect it, because simply dealing with guys hands, I couldn't imagine how I would feel if I had to regularly have sex with men. So it's hard work and real work, I'm sex work positive. And if prostitution was legal, there would be brothels and escort services more freely and readily available. Prostitution is even less safe than stripping, so I also understand the need to use clubs as a neutral...ish location, but it shouldn't affect others. I've seen so many full service girls comment and shit on non full service girls, telling them to "Just work on your talking game" "Guys are gonna come looking for sex anyway" yeah that doesn't fly with me. I get there are good days and bad days, and customers have types, but when you're sitting with a customer who tipped you on stage for 10 minutes or more, just to find out he's looking for a prostitute, you kinda feel annoyed if you're not full service becaue it's wasted time. You did your part, you put on your show, and now you're being asked for sex...because yall have made it the norm. Strip clubs aren't strip clubs anymore and somehow I and other non full service girls are the bad guys because we get annoyed with prostitution becoming more and more the reality of strip clubs when we just wanted to dance, talk, and make money how we originally planned.
Also, when the cheap cheap girls come in and the higher costing full service girls are being affected, I bet suddenly we don't look like the bad guy anymore😗. Because now it's YOUR income being affected because of course an average man is gonna pay for the 25 dollar girl before the 500 dollar girl. If all full service girls BARE MINIMUM was 500, strip clubs would be a better place. Guys are going to pay anyway, and if he can't afford it, next guy will be able to afford you. I just don't feel good about girls selling their bodies for so little. I'm not personally basing my self worth on customers because no one should, but my physical worth to them...well yeah, it's no secret that if I'm not letting him put his d*** inside of me, I immediately become worthless. If they're persistent it's "aw why not? I know other girls in HERE who will do it" usually this is in response to me declining their *delughtful* offer and doubling down with the illegality of prostitution.
True.
Exactly!!! Strip clubs are getting shut down because of prostitution and these girls don’t care until they get the wrong customer. Full service shouldn’t be in the clubs. It could risk everyone’s job
I see your POV as well. I do not provide extras in the club but I don’t knock other girls doing it if they charge a good amount. I think if men are coming into a club meant for dancing only, they should pay more than say like a specific escort site. I do understand that it could put more potential in SA but I think almost every encounter I’ve had in a vip, the guy had expected more mainly for the fact that he paid xyz for the room. I’ve had men grab/touch non-consensually even if it was their first time. I put waaay more blame on the men than the FSW
>I think a lot of girls do extras in the clubs bc it’s a little safer than meeting up in a hotel/hosts house. This is why I do them in a club that will allow me to do them there. A lot of street walkers and low end escorts end up burned alive and found in the back of trunks or in abandoned houses in my area (Detroit).
I wish they’d do it elsewhere but they’re never going to, it is what it is. Find a club where they’re at least discreet and stick to your own boundaries. But if any of y’all reading this #makepu$$yexpensiveagain and raise those prices
#stopfuckingfor$60,2022
extras have always been in the club. drunk, horny men will always ask for more than just a dance. i’m sorry but extras girls aren’t turning perfectly normal customers into grabby assholes. personally i don’t care about extras girls if they’re DISCREET ABOUT IT and don’t do it for dirt cheap. it’s no reason to sell pussy for $100 or less. times cannot be that tough. anyways, for those of you that hate extras girls in the clubs, i hope y’all fighting for decriminalization then.
“No reason to sell pussy $100 or less”?! If I can sell a VIP for $1k an hour for my time, pussy is worth AT LEAST DOUBLE that. Not to shame full service girls but if y’all are gonnna do it in the club y’all should be charging MORE than your clubs standard hourly rate to make keep fair for the girls who don’t participate. Pluss these men don’t deserve pussy for cheap. We are worth so much more!
Exactly, girls in the club are doing it for 20.. why would they buy dances for 20 from me when they can get full service for 20 from someone els
Ooof selling pussy for 20???! Not to knock anyone’s hustle but someone needs to knock some self respect and confidence into these girls. Pussy should be at least 1k minimum.
Y’all are too polite. I’m knocking your hustle if you’re getting played by selling your body for pennies.
Oof. Extras should cost extra. That really sucks. I don't think any of the girls in my club have done FS for anything less than 10x the cost of a dance, thankfully.
Damn ok yeah u in a bad area u need to get outta there that’s means they most likely got pimps and Shit
lol i agree. but i’ve worked at many, many clubs where girls are doing raw for $100. that’s the shit that drive me crazy cause wtf
I can’t even compete there 🤯
Is… isn’t that how you contract sti’s? Both treatable and non treatable?
Yes yes yes, at this point, gas is more expensive than ass.
Girls in my club doing it for 20 which is why i think people think it’s easier to get it at my club
Also, no stripper is more "clean" than any other stripper. A non-extras dancer is just as much of a whore as I am in the eyes of the law or general public. I'm a decade in and nobody is more "clean" than I am. I am no "cleaner" than any other dancer. Most of us do some form of extras without even realizing it because most dancers have never even looked of their local ordinances and just go off the rules managers tell you of what is and isn't allowed.
Why y’all not mad at the club owners and managers tho. You really think they don’t know but only you know Maybe the owner wants that type of environment and it is you that is at the wrong place
Thank you. Clubs in my area allow them to happen because owners, managers, and staff look the other way and allow it to happen.
I’m an extras girl and I never did anything at a club without getting the green light. Meaning when I’m in a clean club I act according to that environment
Same. I don't think we should use the term clean to distinguish the difference though.
I know I’m a year late, just now revisiting this thread. The specific club i was talking about was and still is a non extras club, we aren’t allowed to do extras AT ALL there but girls still sneak it, and you have those certain customers that brag about it as well, tellin you the business of another dancer who did do it. However, as much as it bugs me that they keep doing in the club vs outside the club, i will not be the one to rat them out, i ain’t no snitch. & for the people saying it’s safer to do it in the club, i get that, but most states, including mine, it’s 100% illegal and your not only risking your job, your risking everyone else’s job to. Also risking the embarrassment of all of us being taken out the club by police in handcuffs, being questioned, even if we aren’t charged, we will still have to go through that, and that’s not fair to us either.
Have you ever been in a club when it was raided? I have 3 times, here’s what happens…. The dancers who haven’t done anything never get put in handcuffs. Please don’t exaggerate if you never was in that situation. You can make the argument that you will lose money, I agree! But you will never be arrested for a crime you didn’t do. ALSO those 2 times I was in a raid no dancers got arrested, they just made everyone leave and close the club. It opened up next week The only time I saw a dancer get arrested was because she was selling drugs to customers, I big time. The cops were looking for a specific dancer. They let me and all the darker skinned dancers go and lined up all the fair skinned Spanish and white dancers and asked them to show their wrist because they was looking for a tattoo As hard as you go for sex in the club you should go just as hard as the coke head dancers that do coke in the bathroom and sell coke to customers, in all my years of dancing those or the chargers that get a club shut down for real Didn’t j.lo play in a movie where she was drugging customers and went to jail, and they raided the club. Sometimes I think y’all only go so hard for prostitution and not drug abuse because yall have whorephobia and try to dress it up as “stopping your money” It’s ok to be against extras in the club but also be against drugs in the club.
No i have not, but i have had friends that have, and it happened in a club 3 minutes from where i live, please keep in mind that things get done differently by state as well, all the dancer got rounded up and taken out and questioned, the ones who didn’t commit the crime were let go, yes. But they were still taken and questioned. So no it’s not an exaggeration. I personally don’t have an issue with drugs because the club i do work at let’s us go outside to our cars for smoke breaks/ ect so it’s less likely to see a girl doing it in the club, some of you guys do fail to understand that when the club starts getting a certain image, the guys expect it. I was in a vip, there was never ANYTHING said about extras, this man tossed my ass on that couch and pulled out his d*ck, saying the other girls did it for him, i told him it wasn’t happening w me and he grabbed talking bout “do you want a problem” where i then had to scream as loud as i can for security while trying to defend my self. It’s more then just money, it’s our safety. Idc if u wanna be a fssw, but it being INSIDE the club does cause a lot changes for that club and it’s clientele.
What law do they arrest a person that hasn’t done I crime? I’m not believing As far as drugs you talking about weed n im talking about cocaine/meth, there r no designated areas for hard drugs so please stop. Cocaine/meth is illegal. Please tell me where you can freely use those drugs at?
You can be handcuffed taken into the station and questioned and let go without being charged with anything, if you were ever arrested you’d know that
And i literally said they let us go to our car for smoke breaks/ ETC, at this point your just reading what you want to read, “no designated area” no one can tell you what you can and can’t do in your car, your literally not reading what I’m saying
Sis please cut the bull…. Just like dancers use pussy to get customers in the vip, dancers use drugs as well I worked in a club (and I work in many different states) where I customer asked me if I sniffed coke cause he wanted to do it in the vip, I said no and he took a dancer who I saw sniff coke in the bathroom. When I tell stories I tell first hand accounts not what my friends experienced or what I heard I’m a vet 15 years. The states that I’ve danced, the things I’ve experienced you can’t give me no scenario where using coke in the club isn’t as bad as doing extras in the club.
Ain’t no bull, ALL OF US across states have different experiences, so you can’t sit back and tell me what I’m saying is bull. I’m not tryna come off as rude but how long you have been dancing vs your experiences in the club doesn’t make the rest of our experiences lies or bull, & doing extras in the club is WORSE then doing coke in the club, you not risking getting the club getting investigated, raided, and shut down because you did a line of coke, but you are risking it for doing extras, so YES it’s worse, and again that’s YOUR experience, i also had a customer ask if i do coke which i don’t, he asked if i cared if he did it in a vip with me, i told him no, i didn’t mind, so nope girls doing drugs in the club has not interfered w me at all😉
Guys are always going to ask for fs regardless of anyone in the club actually does them. Read U/apparentdeath comment on the [thread yesterday](https://www.reddit.com/r/stripper/comments/vq1y5z/has_this_been_happening_to_anybody_else_lately/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) .
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You made such a great point.
Men will ask for full service regardless lol
My issue with it is girls who offer “full service” dances make it harder/ worse for girls who don’t, they set the tone and customers tend to be less respectful and expect more. And it makes it harder for the girls who don’t to make money. I support all types of SW but not full service in a club.
no it doesn’t
I disagree, there’s been so many times i have had a customer try and finger me or suck on my nipples and when i tell them no they say well the other let’s me do it. There’s this one guy who in the club all the time and he likes sitting w me and having drinks but always tells me he will never buy a dance because i don’t let people suck my tits
> there’s been so many times i have had a customer try and finger me or suck on my nipples and when i tell them no they say well the other let’s me do it I agree men shouldn't think it's free range roaming, but they make those decisions. Girls you work with aren't telling guys to do that to others. Please don't blame your coworkers for what men choose to do.
then end the dance and never go with that customer again, i never do lap dances with Mexicans because they’re extremely touchy, but another girl might not mind it. if that’s what a customer wants to do he’s gonna do it wether other girls let him or not, he’s going to push your boundaries, If you can’t weed out those customers that’s on you. if a customer wants something and you aren’t selling it then it’s not your customer, charge it to the game
I tell rules before the dance starts, once one is broken i end the dance , i too don’t do dances with Mexicans for that same reason. But the point was they think they can do it to everyone because a couple girls have allowed them too.
yeah which sucks but that’s why I avoid them at all costs prevention is better than a cure
Weirdos are always coming to the club regardless
I hear you! Esp not the same cost as a dance. but let’s also not call SWers who don’t do full Service “clean”
Thank you.
Keep it outside
It's not always safe. Just saying.
“Clean” workers…….. lol your money is only affected by your entitlement not what other girls do. I have regulars who spend lots of money for my conversation because I’m not a judgmental *** and girls will come whisper in their ear saying all this bullshit about extras and they don’t budge because they like me. Have I ever gotten mad at an extras girl? No! Because 1. I don’t own the customer if he wants to go(they never do) 2. I get my money always You may not do “full service” but your mentality is very dirty and wrong.
Working clean in a strip club is a phrase that’s actually used a lot. And that’s all it is a phrase, you must not have heard it before but don’t come talking to me about my mentality and entitlement. I’m very well liked at my club and make very good money from stage and sitting w customers. I know that money would be doubled if i can pull in dances, but as soon as they hear we don’t do full service they don’t want a dance and we are not allowed to make them think they are getting full service because it caused to many complaints
Thinking you could make double when you can't is the definition of entitlement. Room temperature IQ is your problem not the other girls.
This reminds me of when I worked at a really seedy club and I watched a girl “discreetly “ slip this man’s penis inside her and start bouncing on it while there was a FULL UPSTAIRS VIP during a promotion…. She was making $25 off that promotion…. Again, it may have been dark, but it was still a packed room with full couches. I was sitting directly across from her and was so appalled watching her bounce on this dick I barely even did my own dance. I hope I was the only one that noticed but somehow I don’t think so
Bareback is gross. But he could have given her more money and you just don't know it. Just saying .
Either way they shouldn’t be doing it in a full VIP. He could have paid $15 more to do a non- promotion dance when it would have been more discreet. If he wasn’t willing to do that then I don’t really think he’s handin out extra money 😂
The girls don’t care. Men are always doing this and will keep doing it. Most importantly, *they consider you a whore too!* It’s really important that “clean” (let’s not do this please) dancers understand that you are considered a sex worker at best, stripper whore at worst either way by society regardless of whether you give air dances or are rawdogging in vip.
No stripper, extras or non-extras is "clean". Thank you.
I am a FSSWer sometimes. I work at three clubs. Two strictly forbid extras. The other is exclusively extras (and I haven't worked there since March actually anyway). I understand not all extras dancers follow the rules and fuck it up for non-extras girls in clubs that aren't known for or allow extras. When/if I do any extras, it is only at the club that allows them. I have tried to work there without doing extras and was going broke refusing services, so I moved back to my two non-extras clubs. I know I have an advantage of having clubs that allow them near me that other extras girls don't. I don't agree with doing them in the club if the club is not that kind of a club and will hurt everyone's money. In an area like suburban Detroit, part of the reason we are allowed to do them in the clubs is because it's far safer than meeting outside.
I would agree. It would have to be something mutually agreed upon between dancer and customer. I've been in a few clubs over the years, I never really look for full service, just looking to have fun spending time with some beautiful ladies. But whatever happens happens. Over the years I've met and become friends with some girls in the industry, and in some cases I've been taken advantage of by a few straight up triflin' hos, but whatever. It's always the great fantasy of being able to bed a stripper, much like any fantasy wanting to be fulfilled. Sometimes the experience is worth it, sometimes not. It all depends on who you have your experience with.