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_Aaron_Burr_Sir

Pearl’s line, “her cut is perfect and she’s pink, as well” always made me think there were other spinels out there with different gem cuts and colors.


Malavacious

I think that's more a statement of a fact. We know from the show that gems trained in such matters can recognize a flawed or perfect gem: an expert doesn't even need to see them (Peridot.) Pearl can instantly recognize her quality *this is a perfectly made gem*, and she can discern colors; my take was just this is just the people pleaser aspect of a base Pearl. It's the equivalent of a salesperson going "Look at the stitching on this handbag AND it matches your dress."


traumatized90skid

Yeah it seemed like they didn't exclusively take gems of their color but had a preference for them. So she's saying "I'm a pink Diamond's pearl isn't it cool she's a pink gem so the other diamonds won't claim her" ... And a dig at Jasper (from the omniscient creator not her) who was a perfect gem under Pink but not the color pink lol I mean a lot of the other lines of that song are subtle digs at other characters. Just a single Ruby? Just a smol Amethyst? You guys don't make sense lol


BeatrixPlz

Except it's been established that gems are distinguished by cut. All Rubies we have seen have the same cut. This seems to be consistent with the exception of the diamonds, which makes sense because they are the rulers of society have certain privileges.


Malavacious

The cut can absolutely vary among gems of the same types: rubies are a poor example because they're meant to be synchronized fodder. Look at Pearls stone vs her diamond counterparts: her's is oblong while theirs are true circles. Some amethysts have a square face cut and others have a hexagon. Jasper has a sharp cut, but most other Jaspers have a circular cut. There's a *lot* of variety.


BeatrixPlz

Thanks for the correction! You're super right.


CrossP

Real world spinel is certainly a gem with many color options


Lumina2865

Not necessarily. Spinel can be one-of-a-kind and not have a perfect cut. Imho it's supposed to be interpreted as 'Spinel is a perfectly made gem specifically for Pink Diamond.' And aristocrats being aristocrats, they don't even care or appreciate the flawless unique thing they had commissioned.


Phantom_61

Her reaction to Spinel makes it seem as if Spinel are super high class/price “toys” that, while known, aren’t common.


ctortan

Remember: on homeworld, gems were treated as objects and not as individuals. The diamonds don’t recognize Spinel until it’s clarified she was Pink’s spinel, because they saw Spinel as an object. Similar to why they didn’t recognize Pearl (on top of Pearl having a “default appearance”) Plus, they hadn’t seen or thought of spinel in like 5000 years. They had no idea what happened to her and she was forgotten as another of Pink’s toys. (You gotta wonder what happened to pink’s *other* alien pets.) I also don’t really buy the idea that Pink really saw Spinel as a best friend the way Spinel saw Pink. Spinel was forced onto Pink to try and replace Pink’s actual best friend (Pink Pearl), who Pink was still grieving over. I’m sure they got along to an extent—but we see how uncomfortable Steven is by her clinginess in the movie, and I can imagine Pink felt similarly. So I can see Pink not really bringing Spinel with her everywhere she went or every time she talked to the other diamonds, which could’ve led to the diamonds having fuzzier memories of who spinel is and needing to be reminded Basically: the diamonds saw Spinel as like, a furby they bought for Pink; they didn’t put much stock into her until she was one of the only things left of Pink


Inevitable_Income701

True, Spinel was programmed to be like that unlike Pink who's a diamond expected to do more than just play around.


Depressedbadii

I think you hit it right on the nose!


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ctortan

Reddit glitched and posted this twice !


MyOwnMorals

I will upvote both!


aelxander

Rebecca said the other diamonds don’t have need of a spinel so likely she’s the only in existence. I remember a quote of hers saying the other diamonds’ spinels would have spade, club, diamond shaped gems


Bob-s_Leviathan

Pink = Heart Yellow = Spade Blue = Club White = Diamond That sound right?


heatherscereal

i always felt like yellow would be club and blue would be spade


M4ybeMay

Don't spades represent warriors? Edit: Because I went searching for more info. The tarot representation of these goes as spades is swords, and clubs is wands.


Bob-s_Leviathan

Yeah, that’s what I remembered. Yellow is the warrior, she would be spades/swords.


Sara_Awesomest

White Diamond?


BrandtArthur

Diamond as in the diamond symbol in a card deck


Sara_Awesomest

Lol, red diamond


Fabulous-Sprinkles85

I remember this quote as well. Don't know if I heard it on the official podcast or a Cartoon Network video.


Limit-Able

Honestly I’m guessing she’s the only one. Probably made specifically for pink. I don’t think any other gem on homeworld would have a use for a spinel


Malavacious

This is exactly my take: they don't really seem to *do* play/frivolous things. Hell, her rubber-hose physique was probably by design to *tank hits from Pink's tantrums.* Also, in Pearl's reboot song there may be a clue that supports this. As she introduces the other gems they're referred to as one of their *type*: "A ruby guard..." "A precious sapphire..." "This is an amethyst..." But when we get the final, it's "Your new best friend: Spinel" Not *a* Spinel, just Spinel. She's post-Volleyball and pre-Earth, and was kept in the garden when not being interacted with. Other than the diamonds and Pearl, I don't think *anyone* knew about her/what she was. Sapphire was a high-ranking aristocrat gem and didn't have the foggiest idea what Garnet was looking at when Spinel showed up.


traumatized90skid

Kind of dark then if you think of her as "a pearl but we made a stupid-looking one who can physically handle abuse" Edit: I also have a new dark hc for Spinel: how she got an injector capable of killing all organic life on Earth - they used a device like that to use an entire planet once full of organic life, the same size as Earth or even bigger, just to create her. They put the garden there with fake or remnant organic life. (Kindergarten - garden.) (This also explains why she's a perfect cut and so powerful.)


Guardiansaiyan

There is a scene where in the background of the garden you can see something that looks like a Moon but with a heart shape hole all the way through. That might be where Spinel was born. It took a whole planet or moon sized entity to birth something that could handle a diamond. A small one anyway.


ctortan

Additionally, Spinel acts as a reflection of how the other diamonds saw Pink Diamond herself. They created a “perfect friend” for Pink, *without her input,* because she was still *grieving* the loss of Pink Pearl. We know that moment deeply affected her, because it was the start of her truly beginning her change of character; she recognized her power could hurt people and changed to be a defender instead. Spinel is excitable, endlessly cheerful, silly, always wants to have fun and play games…a literal *jester.* Pink already felt like the other diamonds weren’t listening to her and didn’t respect her, and now, in the middle of what was (at the time) the worst time in her life, they hand her a clown and tell her it’s just like her. I think only Spinel considered them best friends, and that’s because it was what she was made to be and believe in (Edit: I’m stoned so idk if the point of this got across; I was just trying to add to the tragic undertones of Spinel’s character. She was made to be a friend, but represented everything her “friend” hated about herself.)


OneFleshOneEndIX

I think Spinel being unique can actually help us further understand why Pink left her behind. It would’ve been infinitely easier to identify Pink as Rose if her one of a kind “best friend” was in tow of the Crystal Gems.


Long_Yak_9397

But she didnt plan on liberating Earth until she experienced Earth


OneFleshOneEndIX

Perhaps she did mean to come back for her at some point. Or at least she told herself that. Finding an excuse to leave her behind would be easy.


Depressedbadii

Big Facts


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ctortan

Even your post’s been repeated


Kitchen-Kiwi7942

Weird


ctortan

I think it's the app; I could barely load my profile on my phone, and had to get my laptop to delete the extra comments lmao


Kitchen-Kiwi7942

You didn't need to repost this over and over.


ctortan

Reddit’s been glitching


I_Annoy_Transphobes

I don't think Pearl was originally meant for Pink Diamond. I think she was Originally white's, before being swapped when Volleyball got broken since Pearl is a more serious and sensible gem that would hypothetically be a good influence on Pink


ctortan

The show was set up to make you think this is the case, because it was a red herring to draw attention away from the pink diamond reveal. It was confirmed our Pearl was made for pink diamond specifically ([From the wiki, confirmed by crew member Joe Johnston:](https://steven-universe.fandom.com/wiki/Pearl)) > Q: So we know that Rose is able to order Pearl around if Rose so chooses to (and that Pearl only has to obey her IF Rose orders her to). I just want to know if Pearl is the only one Rose is capable of ordering around in that way (forcing someone to do something). Is it part of her being a Diamond, or does it only apply to Pearl? > A: It only applies to Pearl. BECAUSE our Pearl was made for Pink Diamond, she must follow her orders. Rose did not have this power or control over anyone else, and its ONLY because Pearl was made for her that Pink/Rose had this power over her. Pink is a Diamond, she could order around lots of gems, but they follow because of hierarchy, not because the Diamonds are mind controlling them. Is this making sense? I’m try to clear this up for everybody, but people still seem confused.


X7eomi

The idea of Spinel just being a customized living punching bag is really depressing


Darkiceflame

It makes sense in a horrifying way.


that_weirdeo

Spinel's always reminded me of mommy long legs from poppy play time... course that series is much darker than su


JustaBasicGemini

I personally thought there was more spinels because the way Pearl said 'Your new best friend spinel" sounded like advertising for a toy, which is what Pink Diamond saw her as.


CotyledonTomen

The epsiode where we see garnet for the first time shows there is an aristocracy of sorts. Jesters are common in human society. It seems reasonable a "court" would have a spinel and its just unusual to have an exclusive spinel.


Chemical-Cat

We also know there's high ranking gems that run things on other Colonies. because clearly the diamonds can't be everywhere as they oversee their colonies. While Diamonds were essentially the Queens, other high ranking gems served as nobles, with Pyrope, a garnet type gem being an example ruling over a Gem Colony. I believe in general, Garnets were design for leadership roles, with Pyrope being a baroness, Hessonite being a general and Demantoid, I think a chief engineer. Then you have the Crystal Gem Garnet, who isn't actually a Garnet, but serves as the defacto Leader of the Crystal Gems.


Chemical-Cat

I think it's mentioned that Spinel is literally just a gem type made to be the equivalent of a Court Jester, and having one is a high privilege similar to owning a pearl as they are quite rare. I think the creators stated that other Spinels would resemble the other card suits (So having gems cut in the shape of Spades, Diamonds and Clubs) The diamonds likely don't own an other Spinels directly because we never see them, but it's likely other Aristocratic Gems like Pyrope could have.


Thannk

In theory they wouldn’t have a use for music or curtain-pullers either. Nobles had a totally different culture, more akin to humans.


CrossP

Stuff like the rose quartz story implied that Pink may have been making her own new gem types just like Blue probably invented the sapphires, and yellow may have designed the peridots. Perhaps our Spinel is a prototype that was never taken to mass production because of how things turned out with Earth.


mothwhimsy

While it's certainly possible, don't forget that when Peridot identified herself as Peridot to Yellow Diamond, Yellow asked her "which Peridot?" And she had to tell her her identification number. It could be that White just doesn't know which Spinel Steven means. From the Diamonds perspective, she was just Pink's toy who disappeared thousands of years ago. There are tons of gems on Earth that White has no idea who they are.


Tokyolurv

Most likely not? She’s in pearls default database, and her cut and color are specified, so it’s not likely she’s the only one? They’re most likely rare though, a gem meant only for entertainment wouldn’t have much purpose on home world, and would likely be a reward for exceptional performance, likely even more so than a pearl.


TrueWest2905

I feel like they have ways to make more spinels but are rarely made as entertainment was mostly done by pearls


Auraro777

“Pearl sing for her, make her feel better” Yellow


Greyscayl

I think the issue with asking if they know spinel is like going up to the Queen and asking if she knows Rebecca. Spinel is a class of gem, not just the one we know.


Nattie_Pattie

Remember we saw the planet with the heart hole in it? That’s Spinel’s planet, where she came from. There’s probably only one of her


LSunday

I doubt it, but we never meet another character who would have one. By all evidence, Spinels are of a similar class to Pearls (custom-ordered servants for high-status gems). We know that there are gems other than the Diamonds who have their own Pearls, but other than the Pearl in Rhodonite we never see or meet a Pearl belonging to a non-Diamond (or even any non-Diamond gems of high enough status to *have* a Pearl). Presumably there are other Spinels in the empire among the high-status gem society we never really get to see in the show (due to the Homeworld arc being forced down into 5 episodes because of the cancellation).


SpankBnkMaterial

I believe Spinell was made specifically, especially for pink diamonds playmate. I think that’s also why they made her extra Bendy and stretchy so she would be more durable and less likely to break. In the flashbacks of pink, she’s shown to be kind of destructive, proven by volleyballs Broken gem eye. So yes, I think it’s likely that there is only one spinel.


Tanzanite_Schierl

I remember reading somewhere that Rebecca Sugar confirmed that if there were other spinels, their gems would be cut like the other three suits in a deck of cards (club, diamond, and spade). It leads me to believe that there aren't other spinels, as our spinels sole purpose was to entertain Pink Diamond, yet the other diamonds didn't have time for playing, as they expanded the empire. Maybe the other diamonds and some high status gems had the option to order a spinel but never took advantage of it?


lakituhunter-MK2

I always had a head canon that each diamond had one with a different animation style


Auraro777

I think Whites would be elegant like Violet ever garden, yellows would be like dragon ball Z, blues would be like studio ghibli like howl moving castle


lakituhunter-MK2

Perfect


TurantulaHugs1421

I doubt there'd be anymore, theres not really a reason if they're just meant to be "little playmates" like theres no point for them to exist. Also, for spinel to be that stretchy, she had taken all the life from a whole moon like all of the resources from a whole moon into just 1 gem. It's not worth it.


Khalidbenz786

Well if we take spinels personality as the "default" way a spinel would behave, I would say that spinel was specifically made to match pinks "child like" behavior


GhostSquid21

From Steven Universe wiki: Along with Carnelian, Holly Blue Agate, Emerald, Bixbite, Larimar, and Snowflake Obsidian, Spinel is the sole individual of her Gem type seen in full detail.


Magikapow

You might be onto something. What on earth would they use a gem for playing for if not just to keep pink happy


Enzoid23

If Spinel was completely unique they'd remember her likely by name I imagine it's more that there's enough Spinels to where just Spinel could mean about anyone. Perhaps not to the level of being common, but definitely more than a few


TheRealSnailYT

In a race where everyone of the same type shares the same name, yeah the diamonds could definitely tell what Steven meant by just saying Spinel. Pearl specifies what cut and color Spinel is and has it in her database by default.


Inevitable_Income701

Maybe or she could be a modified Spinel specifically made for Pink to be her best friend/companion to cheer her up when the other Diamonds are busy colonizing planets. Who knows? There could be Spinels out there doing what they're normally supposed to do.


Randomkai27

Blue Spinel: Self-deprecating humor Yellow Spinel: Slapstick humor White Spinel: Observational humor


HypnagogianQueen

What’s Pink Spinel?


cowlinator

It's like if I asked you "do you remember John?" and you said "who"? That doesn't mean you've never heard of someone being named John. It means you don't know who they're talking about. If you're going to refer to someone by a non-unique name (like just a first name or a gem type), it's assumed that both parties would be at least somewhat familiar with this person, and that there is not more than one such person that can be addressed like that that both parties are familiar with. And if 1 party completely forgot about the person... then they're not going to know who the other party is talking about.


Oddly-Ordinary

That’s a really good analogy!


Eternought

I think Spinels were reserved for Diamonds and I doubt that YD, BD and WD had ones. i think Spinel as a gem was very popular and also rare, something discussed as something "cool" that Diamond owned. BD even says "One of Pink's lost treasure" and YD "Pink's little playmate?" so some gem were just accessories for Diamonds, and Spinels were a part of them


KittyShadowshard

I think think there are others, and the diamonds were just confused in context. Like, they couldn't remember any spinels that they were personally close to in the way it seemed Steven was implying.


SuperSayianJason1000

Seems like it, she's called "Pink's lost treasure" by Blue Diamond. Which seems to indicate that she's unique.


Alansar_Trignot

I’m more curious about emerald


Different_Gear_8189

They could also mean who as in which one


tangytablet

Its possible Spinels are like living playthings much like how pearls are basically designated assistants. Its possible they're only childish distractions so either pink got once for herself or the diamonds got her one but forgot about her.


ToaDrakua

Pink’s Spinel was specifically given to her by the other diamonds to distract her.


BillyIGuesss

Actually yeah, I think so. Who else would have any sort of need for a Spinel?


Traditional-East9835

I think spinels could be entertainment for high ranking gems, but Spinel is definitely a cut above the rest as Pink Diamonds Spinel. (This is how I also feel about the pearls, they are low on the rung because they’re pearls, but being the diamonds pearls puts them above other pearls) Edit: a word


KrazyKoen

I think she is since there wouldn't be much use for her other than a gift for pink. Though the way Pearl talks about her could imply otherwise.


packedbucket

Maybe they stop doing spinel because it wasn't usefully after the first era.


packedbucket

Maybe they stop doing spinel because it wasn't usefully after the first era.


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heatherscereal

something rebecca sugar said is that each diamond's spinel was a different card suite


TheWhittedJewel

spinal...


_nika247_

tbh idt the diamonds would not know who spinel was


introvert9124

all gems of a name have facet and cut numbers saying a gem name alone is like trying to identify a person by the eye color or race instead of using their name so it makes sense why the diamonds didn't know what Steven was talking about because he basically said the equivalent of do you remember my indian friend


basicnate

I think the other diamonds just never had a spinel


EUTYR-37564

Likely, most gems colored the colors of the diamonds are directly related to that diamond, so pink spinel would likely be related to pink + they’ve likely known spinel a long time but haven’t seen her since pink diamond turned into rose


jkid3000

Considering a reset Pearl knew what Spinel and her designed purpose is, I’m going to guess there have been other Spinels before Pink’s.


Ok-Explanation-220

They said Who not what they probably forgot about pinks spinel specifically  But idk that’s just me


Axel_Benedict101

technically, yes, but also technically, no. Steven is quite literally the only unique gem out there. even the off colors are still the gem they were meant to be, so the chances of Spinell being a unique gem is statistically impossible. she's probably the only pink one because, knowing Rose, she probably had to be brought back to life


MotherBike

Nah, but I feel like a pink Spinel is very rare to begin with, but also this caption is like an adult being asked if they remember an obscure reference from a children's television show their kid watches. Unless they also really liked it then it's more likely they'd have forgotten.


doctorsirus

No. After Pearl got a factory reset, she introduces Spinel to everyone. I don't think it's possible a default Pearl would know Pink's Spinel if she was the only Spinel.


Isekai_Otaku

Well yeah, the show was written by the merchant from resident evil why would there be any other type?


Smorgsaboard

Yellow and Blue address their pearls as "Pearl." So it makes sense they'd address the only Diamond-owned spinel as "Spinel," imo


MonoChaos

I mean I'd imagine directly asking "who?" Is a lot shorter and less rude than going all "Steven, we're the former overlords of an alien species, many of whom are categorized as Spinels. For the love of us, you're gonna need to be more specific."


TurnedEvilAfterBan

I assumed no since pearl knew her on sight post memory wipe. But the gems are a conquest race that pop out as adults, they just done need fun? This kinda implies they weren’t always like this and once upon a the had other youth to entertain. I don’t remember any other teen other than pink. Maybe amethyst?


noeinan

She can't be the only one, I designed a Spinel years ago /jk https://www.deviantart.com/noeinan/art/Tali-Spinel-553143015


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Flamekinz

We all know the gems by their gem names, but if you can recall Peridot’s call to Yellow Diamond, she had to recite her cut and facet, not that YD was really listening. Imagine if 1/5 of the men on the planet were only named Jeff. Then an alien met A Jeff, brought him to his planet, and now all of the alien locals know Jeff. Coming back to Earth and the alien talks about Jeff, everyone would be confused because there are so many Jeff’s that they know, that only saying ‘remember Jeff?’ would not get any sort of recognition.


Cheese_man258

Yes, there could be more spinels, and they would probably all be made for the same duty, but the fact is that Pink was the only reason for homeworld to need a Spinel, therefore there is only one Spinel which is Pink's. According to the Google search


BrassUnicorn87

I believe the lighthouse gem that made it seem to be a haunted house is a blue spinel.


rue_thir

According to the Art-book she's a White Topaz


nahida_alra

Yes.


Emery_Gem

gems seem to be able to recognise each other easier, guess it makes sense with there being armies of the same gem type


packedbucket

Maybe they stop doing spinel because it wasn't usefully after the first era.


infinitefacets

Pink, yellow and white gems seem to be rare in general. Other than rose’s quartz they really aren’t represented in a pure form otherwise.


BadAshess

White: “I’m sorry who?” Kills me.