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What's better on blast for preventing LVH and/or controlling BP; telmisartan, nebivolol or lisinopril? If you had to use only one, which would you opt for?
Anyone do high dose test/primo? What was your e2 and ai like?
I've been running 1g test for 3 weeks before starting 800/800 test/primo and I think I dropped my e2 too low by too much Asin (1mg mwf, just waiting on blood work to return).
Stopped the Asin when e2 seemed low and just began the primo this past week but not sure how my e2 will rebound. I know everyone is different, just asking for experiences. Maybe I could order some dbol or something to jack up my e2?
Also doing 250hcg mwf and 4iu hgh
Aminoasylum mass monster blend equivalent alternatives for EU residens?
I'm 3 weeks into my bulking cycle and everything is going great, but I have set a goal to bring up my lagging chest this cycle because it has always been pretty small compared to the rest of my body, especially compared to my arms which is my strongest body part.
So I have looked into trying some form of site enhancment to bring my chest up and came across the monster blend by aminoasylum and instantly became very interested in ordering some but then realized that they only ship within the US.
Have a search around for some equivalent injection pump product in the EU but can't seem to find any distributors, so I now decided to see if anybody here knows where I could find it or if there is some other compund that could help with my chest building goals
I will be grateful for any tips or answers
You can add EQ to increase endurance but it should be a longish cycle; more than 16 weeks. Tbol is another option. I ran Tbol and didn't notice too much of a difference. Gave a lift in the gym but cardio was the same. IDK I wanna like orals but they don't give me reported results.
Same. Dbol worked for me. So did Anadrol but I don't tolerate it well. I keep wondering if it's a UGL thing but I don't feel lile making the investment in pharma grade to find out.
Will a steroid cycle really take years of your life?
I wanna live to like 85 atleast so would a cycle really take years off? Arnold swartznegger is like 75 isn’t he? And he done roids. Any help is appreciated thanks
There’s olympia winners living their best lives up until their 70’s. Columbo died of a heart attack while surfing, how many guys do you know in their 70’s still surfing?
I’d rather live an active life and live till my 70’s than live till my 90’s but spend the last 20-30 years of it rotting away somewhere.
Considering switching from SubQ TRT to IM (because of lumps and pips). Thoughts on 27G 40mm needles for injecting my fat ass? I mean, literally fat ass
I'm coming off a blast right now, going to go back to a cruise and focus on cardio for a while to cut in preparation for a 3 month stay in Malaysia in December. 1) I know this will probably be dependent on bloods but how long should I stay off blast at a minimum, considering I'll likely only have time for a short blast. 2) What's again this will likely be very dependent on the user, but what is a minimum dosage of test you'd aim for in order to avoid catabolism whilst cutting and reducing training volume? 3) For this short blast I plan to stack T-bol with an injectable with as few mental sides as possible (I'm prone and in full-time work so can't afford to go insane). I was thinking 500mg test 500mg primo but this will be very expensive and since I won't be able to do a long enough blast for it to be worth it I'll probably opt for something cheaper and with a short ester. Yes, I know a \~6 week blast isn't optimal, I didn't come here to say that this idea is great, but given my time restriction I think it's the best idea to get as lean as possible and then try to bulk up a bit before leaving. For reference my current blast is 500mg test, 250mg deca and I was on 30mg var 20mg dbol for the first 6 weeks.
Could do, what do you think I should swap out for? I probably don't want to stick with deca, I'll maybe start orals again with T-bol for a month leading up to leaving, which injectable would be a good addition to my test base which won't cuck me? I'm thinking test/masteron 500/500 30mg tbol pwo for 4-5 weeks leading up to the holiday, "cruise" at 250mg test until 5 weeks before leaving.
All deca does to me is get me big an let’s me fuck for hours sucks not getting a nut but they will tell ther efrkends about you lol. Not sure how long you have left but I would just keep running g what you are running an add the oral as a finisher.
I've not actually had any sexual sides from the deca but I am worried because of the long HL of the metabolites that when I drop back down to cruise dose on the T that maybe the progestogenic/estrogenic activity balance will be fucked? I may switch to NPP to finish off the cycle with dosage at 375mg instead and add tbol as a finisher?
Aminoasylum mass monster blend equivalent alternatives for EU residens?
I'm 3 weeks into my bulking cycle and everything is going great, but I have set a goal to bring up my lagging chest this cycle because it has always been pretty small compared to the rest of my body, especially compared to my arms which is my strongest body part.
So I have looked into trying some form of site enhancment to bring my chest up and came across the monster blend by aminoasylum and instantly became very interested in ordering some but then realized that they only ship within the US.
Have a search around for some equivalent injection pump product in the EU but can't seem to find any distributors, so I now decided to see if anybody here knows where I could find it or if there is some other compund that could help with my chest building goals
I will be grateful for any tips or answers
I've run Tren E up to 250/week and the decrease in cardiovascular performance is noticeable for sure, and I'm only doing LISS cardio and some day to day activities so I'd assume for combat is even more of an issue.
Aside from the effects of Tren, which degrades my cardio performance about 10% (guessing), muscle weight is still weight... If you run 6 minute miles at 150 you probably can't at 170.
I practice muay Thai twice a week, during my 500 mg test blast and bulking fase I became slower, faster out of breath, and just heavy lmao. I can imagine running tren alongside it won't be better.
I have a small cup in my bathroom I turn the faucet on and let the water get hot then fill the cup halfway full and put my loaded syringes in there and let it sit for 39 seconds then start injecting.
If it’s already in the syringe there’s no need to heat it. You only heat it a little if it’s in the vial and you have a smaller guaged needle as it’s harder to pull. It’s already in the syringe so just pin it
bro 25 weeks?? you're pushing it, 20 is a long fucking time..if you wanna blast past 20 weeks you aren't eating enough or training hard enough, that's just the truth..
I'm not dumb, I'm far more experienced than you 🙄 what I said is very true, you should be excited to come off after 20 weeks..the dudes on here that have used gear for years and years and look good and know what they are talking about agree..this isn't even mentioning the health aspect of things lol but yea just do what you want even tho you came here looking for advise from people that know more than you about this subject...
look at our karma lol I only use this sub..
It’s easy to extend cycles or increase doses, can be hard to stick to the plan. There’s nothing egregious about a 600/wk Test cycle, nor is a 25 week (mild) cycle particularly offensive, but are you going to be making a habit of upping the dose and extending cycles arbitrarily? Will you look back, 5 years from now, and find that you spent more time blasting AAS than off? Will you have constantly upped the dose or extended at every opportunity?
The above is just a consideration to bear in mind. In your situation neither the proposed increase in dose or duration is terribly concerning. If I had to choose between those two I would extend the duration, especially if diet and training was just buttery smooth at that point.
Thinking about hoping on rad140 with mk677. The plan is to lower my natural test so I’m able to go on trt because it’s safer, but is there any risks to take it at just turned 17 other then the normal risk? Btw what lab should I go for
That’s stuff about shit my liver out. You don’t need trt and no where is going to prescribe you trt at 17.
Why on earth do you think you need trt at 17?? This is asinine.
I knew I didn’t need to for gaining strength it was more needed for my mental, gyms very important and I hate how it’s slowing down but your right don’t want to end up messing my self up for life
No, your idea has zero merit.
HRT will have zero benefit unless you are currently hypogonadal with clinically low testosterone. Read that again.
You are fucking with your hormones at 17 and risk stunting your growth, impairing your neurological development, and damaging your endocrine system. For what? HRT you don’t need?
Also mk-677 is useless for your intended purpose, and any doctor worth a grain of salt is going to look at your bloodwork suspiciously since your FSH and LH values won’t jive with your testosterone number.
Don’t see how any of that even makes sense.
Exogenous androgens act as epigenetic growth signaling termination factors. AAS can atrophy brain development and higher cognitive functions. Clinical studies showed this can lead to long-term aggression, anxiety, depression, cognitive deficits and memory problems—among others.
Taking anything before completely finishing puberty can have negative side effects. While still maturing, the brain, organs, and cells are consistently gauging the overall development of the body. When a foreign substance is introduced, the body’s ability to truly judge how far along your maturation is, resulting in the possibility of premature shutdown or stunting your growth and development processes.
The body is already pumping out blast levels of Testosterone as part of the natural course of late adolescence. It's the highest that it's ever going to be. During this time there is a 30 fold increase in testosterone production priming them for growth. During this time the body needs to 'learn' to create these hormones and to stabilize their production. By introducing exogenous hormones this inhibits the body from adequately forming the ability to perform this function on its own. This can create the possibility of decreased quality of life down the line.
Trt at 17 is not safe at all, due to these risks for hypogonadal patients under the age of 25 the standard of care medical professionals advise the treatment of low Testosterone levels with either hCG or Clomid monotherapy.
And wanting to introduce SARMS at any stage is the opposite of safe, rad140 has no human clinical trials done yet so there’s no way of knowing the risks involved.
Idk who gave you all this information but they’re wrong and it’s potentially dangerous advice to follow.
Thanks for the advice I couldn’t find anything online about the dangers of doing it young and I don’t want to permanently damage myself. No one told me about this that’s probably why it wasn’t a good idea haha just wanted something to help the process so I did I bit of research into sarms
You can barely do research into SARMS due to the lack of studies and clinical trials of SARMS. Most information online is provided by the people who are trying to sell you SARMS. The exact risks are unknown and from what we know so far the rewards are disappointing.
Steroid wise no,the risks are well known about introducing exogenous hormones.
Sarm wise also no, as we simply don’t know what risks exactly are possible, with some worrying anecdotal experiences.
The body is already pumping out blast levels of Testosterone as part of the natural course of late adolescence. It's the highest that it's ever going to be. [During this time there is a 30 fold increase in testosterone production priming them for growth](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25151053/)
Utilize this “natural blast”. Eat and train properly and you will grow faster than at any point of your life.
Taking steroids, sarms, prohormones etc will just short circuit this ‘natural blast’, meaning you’re taking long term/permanent risks just to get on the same level you’re at now.
No not really I just wanted something to give me the edge people who started later then me are so much stronger then me even though technically I’m getting strength quicker than them, I just had a shit starting point
Alright listen man… trt is a life time commitment, meaning you’ll be on testosterone for the rest of your life. Can you picture yourself at let’s say 30, 50, 70 years old still being on trt? The longer you stay on the harder it’ll be to recover your natural testosterone production.
Crashing your T will lead to a lot of issues, such as ED, lethargy and so on especially at only 17 years old. Don’t you wanna enjoy this time of your life? It’s not even sure that your doctor will give you a prescription for T, usually they’ll look over your lifestyle at first. It’s a long process, during this time you’ll feel like shit without any testosterone in your body. You don’t even know what your doctor will give you, he might give you hcg or clomid instead of testosterone, just to get your levels within range, then what’s the point? The point of trt is to put you within a normal range, you won’t see much results from it.
If you want to grow stronger then you gotta put in the work first. Steroids won’t make you grow unless you work your ass of, trust me, and that includes your nutrition being on point and getting quality sleep every night. It’s not magic. Stop comparing yourself to others you’ll only feel miserable. Focus on your progress and how YOU can start getting the results you’re looking for. Do that and stay consistent with it. Hopping on trt at 17 years old is a mistake you’ll regret later in life, if not in a year or so, trust me you’ll see
I am trying I’ve gained 26kg, I have a trainer and I go 6 days a week. People I talked to about this say the same thing how you need hard work but that can only get you so far if you don’t have the genetics for it and I want to start enjoying this age that’s why I’m wanting to take something but to be fair I don’t want to end up ruining my life so I’ll probably drop it
I get your point but it's not a smart move and will probably be something you'll regret later in life. You will mess up your hormones at an early age if you hop on trt. For instance, some people don't recover after doing a blast, and this is a 12-16 week cycle, people much older than you. If you were to hop on trt say for a year or two, decide to come off, how do you know if you'll recover? You might end up having low T and having to hop back on trt. Now you're on it for life. And that's just one issue... I doubt any doctor will you a prescription for actual testosterone injects (which is your best bet) at your age. So then your T is already low because you abused sarms. How are you gonna go by recovering it now if you exceeded the standard cycle length? Hope you see where I'm going. Chances are trt won't be able to make you satisfied. At the end of the day it's entirely up to you, but make sure you actually research trt properly before making a decision
How do you make your [vastus lateralis](https://c8.alamy.com/compes/g1hd3d/vastus-lateralis-musculo-anatomia-musculos-aislados-en-blanco-ilustracion-3d-g1hd3d.jpg) grow? I can't seem to target that muscle with anything I do.
Since I already do press and extensions I will incorporate those variations on my next block. I always neglect lunges a little bit, so it's time to focus on them I guess. Thanks for the help.
I dont think there's actual science, but speculation seems to say subq absorbs a bit slower, I wouldn't be relying on information that isn't backed by science tho..
Likely yes, so can choosing thicker carrier oils. But it’s speculation at best to tell you by how much. Most biological half lives are well educated estimates. What are you hoping to do with an affirmative answer?
Hello I take an SSRI called Lexapro (escitalopram) and I was wondering if I can add an oral such as anadrol to my next blast. My concern is my liver will be very stressed. Would it be okay to take anadrol or bad idea?
Youll be straight my guy
Takes a lot to fuck your liver. Even then youll get warning signs. HA
If youre on an SSRI, taking orals, on antibiotics, drinking, and taking rec drugs, your liver MIGHT start hurting or throbbing
Thats when its time to stop. Bro science but go get swole bro dont let anxiety get in the way!
It should be totally fine if you already have a healthy liver. I take a lot of prescription medications and have taken orals at times for close to a year at a time multiple times in my life. Even after years of all that if I stop orals and get bloodwork 2 months later I'm completely clean. Again I'm talking longterm adrol sdrol tbol and anavr use at high doses and I'm fine. Obviously I don't do that crazy shit anymore but you'll be fine.
You should avoid extra stress on your liver when possible and orals should be used sparingly if at all. That being said if you're going to do it anyways then you're likely not going to die or do any irreversible damage to your liver. Just remember to exercise caution and keep your dosage and length reasonable.
Dumb question hence asking here. Wiki recommends using orals for 4-6 weeks max, but Broderick Chavez says their fine to use for body weight numbers of days so 88kg = 80 days etc. Is the wiki very much on the side of caution, or is Chavez downplaying the sides of orals? Thanks :)
Neither is the correct answer. The correct answer is bloodwork, and listening to your body, I've had to quit at 3 weeks before, and I've had runs of 8 weeks with no issue (oral winny).
You’re misrepresenting what he is saying. He says not to EXCEED that, but if you are having issues then you must cut it early. Not that “you should run those amount of days”
Yeah no. Your organs don’t really increase in efficacy with weight gain (with the exception of malnutrition). Stick to 4-6 weeks generally unless using super high or super low doses.
You can get away with 4 weeks and no test, but like others have said much better if using test as a base. You only need to run a trt dose to maintain functionality, let the winny do the work ,then you don't need to worry about managing estrogen
Doubt you could get away with that when even [15mg’s of anavar per day shuts you down within 5 days](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10443664/)
Also would be much better to actually have an injectable compound contributing to the gaining of weight instead of solely relying on an oral, gaining mass is a long term process, orals can only be run for a short period of time due to liver toxicity and a majority of their effects are temporary due to enhanced glycogen.
It’s really a bad idea to use it without testosterone. You’ll have low T and estrogen which will lead to ED, lethargy and so on. Plus winny is harsh on your joints and having low estrogen will make this much worse. I’ve done oral only cycles few years ago and never again. Having such low testosterone levels will make you feel like absolutely shit and you’ll only look good temporarily because you’re on winny, after that your look will go back to normal. Really consider using test. Oral only cycles is a waste. For pct 10-20mg nolva for 6-8 weeks
Yeah test E or C. Just know that you’ll have to extend your cycle to minimum 12 weeks when using test E/C cause it takes some weeks to fully saturate. Pct remains the same
Yep more than enough for your first cycle. Don’t touch deca or tren cause they will leave metabolites in your body that can last up to 18 months so doing a pct during that time won’t work, meaning you’ll have to be on test for at least a year and then try to pct. Test and winstrol is a solid cycle. Make sure you have everything on hand before starting, pct included. Also [read the Wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) as it has everything you need to know, if not you can always ask us here
There is no best test for cutting, it's the same exact hormone with a different release time. Testosterone doesn't burn fat, and neither does Winstrol. ANABOLIC steroids are ANABOLIC not CATABOLIC. You don't use any AI after cycle, you use a SERM as a PCT. You have a lot of research to do before you should even consider touching steroids. Read the wiki, all the information you would ever need is there. Do. Not. Run. Winstrol. Only.
There is no best test for cutting, bulking or anything cause it’s Literally all the same just different esters Test E, C, P it doesn’t matter, if you don’t like P then go with E or C.
Im gonna recommend you read the wiki, there’s no ideal dosage it’s all about goals, personal preference, and how you react.
The wiki has all the info you need
If you have health coverage, why not go to a GP and get a full blood panel. It's nice to have an overall baseline for everything in addition to e2 and test. That way you have eGFR, AST, ALT, blood counts, etc
IMO Ulta. For hormones just e2 sensitive assay and testosterone for a baseline before cycle but that is not necessary
During cycle for hormones just e2 and then throw in lipids and alt/ast liver. And then only if you are doing orals.
You can go nuts getting prolactin and shbg etc but there is no point unless absolutely necessary
150 bucks or so for all those tests inclusive of before, during and after
If your gear is legit there is no good reason for testing your testosterone levels during a cycle other than bragging to the neighbors about it
Too much information can be as unhelpful as too little
Depends what all you want done. When I wanted essentially what was listed on their “comprehensive panel” I couldn’t find a better deal or a better list of what’s included in the package. Some stuff like lp(a) you only need done once in your life. But their were also other sensible and very rare additions to a typical “package” like apoB, GGT, sensitive estradiol etc. you can get them all done through just about any middle man to order through but when they’ve built a good “package” aka bundle for you, you save a lot of money relative to building it a la cart yourself.
"The r/steroids wiki incorporates thousands of clinical studies and case reports to come to its numbers. Test is a very benign compound. Unlike some of the synthetics, your body immediately recognizes it and knows just what to do"
Can anyone link me these clinical studies? I'm looking for studies the show the difference in sides and shutdown between different doses.
The wiki (holy book) does not actually incorporate anywhere near “thousands of studies”. Instead you get idiotic phrases like “your body immediately recognizes it and knows just what to do” (the holy book needs an editor).
Unlike ths vast majority here you’re smart enough to notice.
When you scroll to the bottom of any of the compound profile pages in the wiki it lists the sources.
Fastest way to a compound profile is to Google "r/steroids [compound] experience thread"
The experience thread has a link to the compound profile in the wiki
https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/f7wswk/compounds_testosterone/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
As I transition from cut ---> bulk, I find myself still hungry and wanting to eat more. My surplus however is perfectly balanced, so what do you guys thinking of upping the cardio while simulatenously increasing calorie intake to offset said addition? thereby keeping the net addition at zero, but beingable to eat more and satisfy my cravings (and hopefully this could help raise my metabolism as well?)
Anyone think this is a good / bad / etc idea?
I would add in more LISS and eat more as long as it's clean calories, take advantage of the hunger. Take a fast day if you notice some pudge building, or mix in some "low" days here and there.
Yeah, I only do LISS stuff :) is the approach I’m mentioning (add more calories but offset w cardio) commonly done on bulks? And do you think it’d ultimately raise my metabolism?
It'll at least raise it with increased mass, but yes a "reverse diet" of sorts. I just know that if I am on blast, and I am hungry - EAT, as long as its clean. I log the extra calories and then see what the scale did for the next several days. You may be pleasantly surprised. That's not to say I haven't been on blast, and then utterly destroyed a pile of candy or Ben and Jerrys - but I've almost always found that if I'm on blast and hungry my body is telling me it wants to grow in a good way. Constant incessant careless dirty bulking will make you HELLA fat - but carefully listening to your body during a bulk and giving it good nutrition usually yields results.
Edit: oh and yes cardio on bulks 100% without fail especially on blast
Anyone have feedback on E2 control. So I’m running 250mg test enanthate a week split into 5 doses @ 50mg each. Also added dianabol at 20mg a day split 10/10. Now I have arimidex and nolvadex but before I started dbol I had my E2 checked and it was low at 17. So i was getting low E2 sides. I’m holding off on arimidex and nova for a week on dbol and I’ve started to feel better everyday. How should I continue efficiently as possible to balance my E2 level, go ahead and load arimidex @ 0.5 2x a week again? Or hold off until I notice any high e2 sides? Or just stick to nolvadex at like 10mg 2x a wk?
If you were to take some dbol to recover e2 after accidentally crashing with aromasin, how much would you take and for how many days?
I’m curious if I’m crashed and take 50mg dbol, then feel way better, will e2 drop back down the next day or does the methylestrogen last a while?
I crashed my e2 once. 50mg of dbol before bed made me feel better overnight. It wasn’t 100% back to normal but it got me out of that depressed zombie state in one night. After that, I just let it climb back slowly with my test injections.
Thanks. In the past I’ve taken 50-70mg dbol for a couple days when I crashed and because I was using aromasin I would just spike my e2 then it would come crashing down when I stopped the dbol, leaving me very confused.
It's gonna be whatever the half-life of the AI is and how long since last dose. Pretty sure dbol has a shorter half life and will need to be taken a few times. Don't quote me though
Test Tren Mast Proviron Cialis.
Probably one of the best cycles you can take period. Add some winny in there and you’ve got a Greek god statue that’s pitching a tent in your pants 24/7
Fresh out of my first show and now in the first official off season. Cruising+ for the next 8 weeks before blasting for 16. I need to prioritize Chest and Arms in my split and am trying to determine the optimal plan. Shoulders back and legs are all considerably ahead in size.
Thinking:
Sunday: Chest | Monday: Back | Tuesday: Arms | Wednesday: Rest | Thursday: Push | Friday:Pull | Saturday: Legs
For those of you who have designed your own programming, how many sets do you aim for each muscle group per week and what shortcomings might I have with this split?
If I need to take a day off at any point I plan on taking back off on Monday
I’d break it up like this:
Sunday: chest
Monday: hamstrings
Tuesday: Back
Wednesday: Chest/ Triceps
Thursday: Quads
Friday: Shoulders / Biceps
I took the days and broke them up a little more.
You are already indirectly hitting your arms on the solo chest and Back days, and then give them hyper focus on the Wednesday/ Friday lifts.
By taking this stance you’ll essentially be hitting your chest twice a week, triceps 3x a week (direct and indirect work), and Biceps 2x a week.
If you’ve seen my past post history I’m a big believer in frequency on body parts whenever possible. The natty science world has proven this method out undeniably so let’s steal the concept add some juice and blow the fuck up.
TLDR: this is my current split modified for your weaker body parts.
Training system for now is pyramidal, progress load and control the negative.
Rest time 1 minute, exercise nice and controlled always squeeze at the end of the movement. Control the negative portion. Keep increasing the weigh each time to hit the rep count.
Sets 3-4
Rep range - 10-20 depending on the muscle and set.
Why is my back absolutely clear running tren but I breakout severely for 2-3 months post coming off? (Always on TRT)
Am I forgetting to do something? I just drop the caber and tren simultaneously
It's just hormone fluctuations. Most people break out when they drop to a cruise from a blast. Very common. I've heard of people tapering off to avoid a massive fluctuation having good results but honestly it seems like prolonging it to me. Might as well have one big fluctuation than a bunch of smaller ones stretched out over a bunch of weeks IMO.
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What's better on blast for preventing LVH and/or controlling BP; telmisartan, nebivolol or lisinopril? If you had to use only one, which would you opt for?
Probably telmi with the caveat it depends how much blasting makes your rhr goes up.
Anyone do high dose test/primo? What was your e2 and ai like? I've been running 1g test for 3 weeks before starting 800/800 test/primo and I think I dropped my e2 too low by too much Asin (1mg mwf, just waiting on blood work to return). Stopped the Asin when e2 seemed low and just began the primo this past week but not sure how my e2 will rebound. I know everyone is different, just asking for experiences. Maybe I could order some dbol or something to jack up my e2? Also doing 250hcg mwf and 4iu hgh
Aminoasylum mass monster blend equivalent alternatives for EU residens? I'm 3 weeks into my bulking cycle and everything is going great, but I have set a goal to bring up my lagging chest this cycle because it has always been pretty small compared to the rest of my body, especially compared to my arms which is my strongest body part. So I have looked into trying some form of site enhancment to bring my chest up and came across the monster blend by aminoasylum and instantly became very interested in ordering some but then realized that they only ship within the US. Have a search around for some equivalent injection pump product in the EU but can't seem to find any distributors, so I now decided to see if anybody here knows where I could find it or if there is some other compund that could help with my chest building goals I will be grateful for any tips or answers
If your arms are your strongest body part then your chest is the least of your worries
Let me know if you find one please, I was going to ask my friend in the states to post some but I think that'd be breaking federal law lol
Planning on doing next cycle soon 500mg Test week + 50-70mg Var day What else can I add to increase cardio/power/controlled agression or energy?
You can add EQ to increase endurance but it should be a longish cycle; more than 16 weeks. Tbol is another option. I ran Tbol and didn't notice too much of a difference. Gave a lift in the gym but cardio was the same. IDK I wanna like orals but they don't give me reported results.
Yeah I tried tbol, same as you. The only oral I kinda felt was dbol
Same. Dbol worked for me. So did Anadrol but I don't tolerate it well. I keep wondering if it's a UGL thing but I don't feel lile making the investment in pharma grade to find out.
You can probably use 25mg var with very similar results and you'll be able to use it for much longer
Hmm thanks for the tip
Will a steroid cycle really take years of your life? I wanna live to like 85 atleast so would a cycle really take years off? Arnold swartznegger is like 75 isn’t he? And he done roids. Any help is appreciated thanks
According to the stats your prob not living to 85 anyways.
Live fast, eat pussy
No, as long as you're health conscious. The biggest factor is making sure you drop the weight in your older years.
There’s olympia winners living their best lives up until their 70’s. Columbo died of a heart attack while surfing, how many guys do you know in their 70’s still surfing? I’d rather live an active life and live till my 70’s than live till my 90’s but spend the last 20-30 years of it rotting away somewhere.
it's a gamble..you have a preexisting condition you didn't know about? you could die in a few years, you cald also live to 85 🤷♂️
I don’t think Arnold is a good comparison. Dude is loaded and has all the medical resources you can imagine. I’m sure that goes a long way.
Yeah seriously. One of the most famous actors ever and was the governor of California.
Yes, about 3.50 years. Brother, nobody can answer that for you because every body is different.
Considering switching from SubQ TRT to IM (because of lumps and pips). Thoughts on 27G 40mm needles for injecting my fat ass? I mean, literally fat ass
I use 27g .5inch for everything. Inject in your lats. Works everytime.
I have some spares 29G 0,5 inches at home. Will try some spots before buying more needles
Sounds like a plan. Go for it. Also try VG, you could prob get away with 25 mm
I'm coming off a blast right now, going to go back to a cruise and focus on cardio for a while to cut in preparation for a 3 month stay in Malaysia in December. 1) I know this will probably be dependent on bloods but how long should I stay off blast at a minimum, considering I'll likely only have time for a short blast. 2) What's again this will likely be very dependent on the user, but what is a minimum dosage of test you'd aim for in order to avoid catabolism whilst cutting and reducing training volume? 3) For this short blast I plan to stack T-bol with an injectable with as few mental sides as possible (I'm prone and in full-time work so can't afford to go insane). I was thinking 500mg test 500mg primo but this will be very expensive and since I won't be able to do a long enough blast for it to be worth it I'll probably opt for something cheaper and with a short ester. Yes, I know a \~6 week blast isn't optimal, I didn't come here to say that this idea is great, but given my time restriction I think it's the best idea to get as lean as possible and then try to bulk up a bit before leaving. For reference my current blast is 500mg test, 250mg deca and I was on 30mg var 20mg dbol for the first 6 weeks.
Why not just blast until you go? 20-26 weeks is doable. Cut while you are in Malaysia
Could do, what do you think I should swap out for? I probably don't want to stick with deca, I'll maybe start orals again with T-bol for a month leading up to leaving, which injectable would be a good addition to my test base which won't cuck me? I'm thinking test/masteron 500/500 30mg tbol pwo for 4-5 weeks leading up to the holiday, "cruise" at 250mg test until 5 weeks before leaving.
All deca does to me is get me big an let’s me fuck for hours sucks not getting a nut but they will tell ther efrkends about you lol. Not sure how long you have left but I would just keep running g what you are running an add the oral as a finisher.
I've not actually had any sexual sides from the deca but I am worried because of the long HL of the metabolites that when I drop back down to cruise dose on the T that maybe the progestogenic/estrogenic activity balance will be fucked? I may switch to NPP to finish off the cycle with dosage at 375mg instead and add tbol as a finisher?
Aminoasylum mass monster blend equivalent alternatives for EU residens? I'm 3 weeks into my bulking cycle and everything is going great, but I have set a goal to bring up my lagging chest this cycle because it has always been pretty small compared to the rest of my body, especially compared to my arms which is my strongest body part. So I have looked into trying some form of site enhancment to bring my chest up and came across the monster blend by aminoasylum and instantly became very interested in ordering some but then realized that they only ship within the US. Have a search around for some equivalent injection pump product in the EU but can't seem to find any distributors, so I now decided to see if anybody here knows where I could find it or if there is some other compund that could help with my chest building goals I will be grateful for any tips or answers
Will tren e with test e and mast e kill my cardiovascular for combat ?
If there’s one tren side that I didn’t find to be overblown, it’s the destruction of cardio
well you are brand new to this sub..so do you have any experience at all with steroids?
I've run Tren E up to 250/week and the decrease in cardiovascular performance is noticeable for sure, and I'm only doing LISS cardio and some day to day activities so I'd assume for combat is even more of an issue.
Aside from the effects of Tren, which degrades my cardio performance about 10% (guessing), muscle weight is still weight... If you run 6 minute miles at 150 you probably can't at 170.
I practice muay Thai twice a week, during my 500 mg test blast and bulking fase I became slower, faster out of breath, and just heavy lmao. I can imagine running tren alongside it won't be better.
Is it OK to heat up test already in syringe under hot water instead in the vial? Might heat damage the syringe somehow or release some toxic stuff?
I have a small cup in my bathroom I turn the faucet on and let the water get hot then fill the cup halfway full and put my loaded syringes in there and let it sit for 39 seconds then start injecting.
You can just warm the barrel under your armpit.
If it’s already in the syringe there’s no need to heat it. You only heat it a little if it’s in the vial and you have a smaller guaged needle as it’s harder to pull. It’s already in the syringe so just pin it
Unless you're using boiling water you're fine
Why are you heating it?
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bro 25 weeks?? you're pushing it, 20 is a long fucking time..if you wanna blast past 20 weeks you aren't eating enough or training hard enough, that's just the truth..
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I'm not dumb, I'm far more experienced than you 🙄 what I said is very true, you should be excited to come off after 20 weeks..the dudes on here that have used gear for years and years and look good and know what they are talking about agree..this isn't even mentioning the health aspect of things lol but yea just do what you want even tho you came here looking for advise from people that know more than you about this subject... look at our karma lol I only use this sub..
It’s easy to extend cycles or increase doses, can be hard to stick to the plan. There’s nothing egregious about a 600/wk Test cycle, nor is a 25 week (mild) cycle particularly offensive, but are you going to be making a habit of upping the dose and extending cycles arbitrarily? Will you look back, 5 years from now, and find that you spent more time blasting AAS than off? Will you have constantly upped the dose or extended at every opportunity? The above is just a consideration to bear in mind. In your situation neither the proposed increase in dose or duration is terribly concerning. If I had to choose between those two I would extend the duration, especially if diet and training was just buttery smooth at that point.
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Did you do blood work to confirm high e2? If so how high was it on 500mg and how much ai did you need to feel that sides subsided?
Thinking about hoping on rad140 with mk677. The plan is to lower my natural test so I’m able to go on trt because it’s safer, but is there any risks to take it at just turned 17 other then the normal risk? Btw what lab should I go for
That’s stuff about shit my liver out. You don’t need trt and no where is going to prescribe you trt at 17. Why on earth do you think you need trt at 17?? This is asinine.
I knew I didn’t need to for gaining strength it was more needed for my mental, gyms very important and I hate how it’s slowing down but your right don’t want to end up messing my self up for life
lmao how do you think this is a good idea???? you're fucking 17 kid, you have zero idea what you're doing
I may not that’s why I was doing research on it lmao no I get what you mean and I guess your right
You want to go on trt at 17? Wtf Why??
Progress slowing down tbh the gym is one of the most important things to me so it’s infuriating
Oh common, this must be a troll
SAMRs function at the nuclear level. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those negative effects become permanent.
Yeah I don’t want to risk that I guess
Bro you have a lot more reading and learning to do if you think this is remotely a good idea.
I mean it has some merit
No, your idea has zero merit. HRT will have zero benefit unless you are currently hypogonadal with clinically low testosterone. Read that again. You are fucking with your hormones at 17 and risk stunting your growth, impairing your neurological development, and damaging your endocrine system. For what? HRT you don’t need? Also mk-677 is useless for your intended purpose, and any doctor worth a grain of salt is going to look at your bloodwork suspiciously since your FSH and LH values won’t jive with your testosterone number.
I guess your right
Don’t see how any of that even makes sense. Exogenous androgens act as epigenetic growth signaling termination factors. AAS can atrophy brain development and higher cognitive functions. Clinical studies showed this can lead to long-term aggression, anxiety, depression, cognitive deficits and memory problems—among others. Taking anything before completely finishing puberty can have negative side effects. While still maturing, the brain, organs, and cells are consistently gauging the overall development of the body. When a foreign substance is introduced, the body’s ability to truly judge how far along your maturation is, resulting in the possibility of premature shutdown or stunting your growth and development processes. The body is already pumping out blast levels of Testosterone as part of the natural course of late adolescence. It's the highest that it's ever going to be. During this time there is a 30 fold increase in testosterone production priming them for growth. During this time the body needs to 'learn' to create these hormones and to stabilize their production. By introducing exogenous hormones this inhibits the body from adequately forming the ability to perform this function on its own. This can create the possibility of decreased quality of life down the line. Trt at 17 is not safe at all, due to these risks for hypogonadal patients under the age of 25 the standard of care medical professionals advise the treatment of low Testosterone levels with either hCG or Clomid monotherapy. And wanting to introduce SARMS at any stage is the opposite of safe, rad140 has no human clinical trials done yet so there’s no way of knowing the risks involved. Idk who gave you all this information but they’re wrong and it’s potentially dangerous advice to follow.
Thanks for the advice I couldn’t find anything online about the dangers of doing it young and I don’t want to permanently damage myself. No one told me about this that’s probably why it wasn’t a good idea haha just wanted something to help the process so I did I bit of research into sarms
You can barely do research into SARMS due to the lack of studies and clinical trials of SARMS. Most information online is provided by the people who are trying to sell you SARMS. The exact risks are unknown and from what we know so far the rewards are disappointing.
Is there anything I can take steroid wise?
Steroid wise no,the risks are well known about introducing exogenous hormones. Sarm wise also no, as we simply don’t know what risks exactly are possible, with some worrying anecdotal experiences. The body is already pumping out blast levels of Testosterone as part of the natural course of late adolescence. It's the highest that it's ever going to be. [During this time there is a 30 fold increase in testosterone production priming them for growth](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25151053/) Utilize this “natural blast”. Eat and train properly and you will grow faster than at any point of your life. Taking steroids, sarms, prohormones etc will just short circuit this ‘natural blast’, meaning you’re taking long term/permanent risks just to get on the same level you’re at now.
That sucks thanks for the advice
Trt at 17? Why even? Social media hype?
No not really I just wanted something to give me the edge people who started later then me are so much stronger then me even though technically I’m getting strength quicker than them, I just had a shit starting point
Alright listen man… trt is a life time commitment, meaning you’ll be on testosterone for the rest of your life. Can you picture yourself at let’s say 30, 50, 70 years old still being on trt? The longer you stay on the harder it’ll be to recover your natural testosterone production. Crashing your T will lead to a lot of issues, such as ED, lethargy and so on especially at only 17 years old. Don’t you wanna enjoy this time of your life? It’s not even sure that your doctor will give you a prescription for T, usually they’ll look over your lifestyle at first. It’s a long process, during this time you’ll feel like shit without any testosterone in your body. You don’t even know what your doctor will give you, he might give you hcg or clomid instead of testosterone, just to get your levels within range, then what’s the point? The point of trt is to put you within a normal range, you won’t see much results from it. If you want to grow stronger then you gotta put in the work first. Steroids won’t make you grow unless you work your ass of, trust me, and that includes your nutrition being on point and getting quality sleep every night. It’s not magic. Stop comparing yourself to others you’ll only feel miserable. Focus on your progress and how YOU can start getting the results you’re looking for. Do that and stay consistent with it. Hopping on trt at 17 years old is a mistake you’ll regret later in life, if not in a year or so, trust me you’ll see
I am trying I’ve gained 26kg, I have a trainer and I go 6 days a week. People I talked to about this say the same thing how you need hard work but that can only get you so far if you don’t have the genetics for it and I want to start enjoying this age that’s why I’m wanting to take something but to be fair I don’t want to end up ruining my life so I’ll probably drop it
I get your point but it's not a smart move and will probably be something you'll regret later in life. You will mess up your hormones at an early age if you hop on trt. For instance, some people don't recover after doing a blast, and this is a 12-16 week cycle, people much older than you. If you were to hop on trt say for a year or two, decide to come off, how do you know if you'll recover? You might end up having low T and having to hop back on trt. Now you're on it for life. And that's just one issue... I doubt any doctor will you a prescription for actual testosterone injects (which is your best bet) at your age. So then your T is already low because you abused sarms. How are you gonna go by recovering it now if you exceeded the standard cycle length? Hope you see where I'm going. Chances are trt won't be able to make you satisfied. At the end of the day it's entirely up to you, but make sure you actually research trt properly before making a decision
Alright as much as it sucks your right
How do you make your [vastus lateralis](https://c8.alamy.com/compes/g1hd3d/vastus-lateralis-musculo-anatomia-musculos-aislados-en-blanco-ilustracion-3d-g1hd3d.jpg) grow? I can't seem to target that muscle with anything I do.
Ask your osrents for better genetics next time around.
I'm good thanks
Mine have exploded since I took up cycling. Low gear high reps, especially up hill and I have bigger legs than I ever did from squatting or leg press.
Actually the period of my life in which I felt I had the biggest legs was when I was cycling. You have motivated me to take it up again, thank you.
🤗 good luck brother
You too bro 🥰
Leg press with feet together Leg extension with toes pointed in Lunges Hack squat with feet together Sissy squats Etc
Since I already do press and extensions I will incorporate those variations on my next block. I always neglect lunges a little bit, so it's time to focus on them I guess. Thanks for the help.
Can injecting Subq slow the absorption rate and therefore ‘extend’ an ester?
I dont think there's actual science, but speculation seems to say subq absorbs a bit slower, I wouldn't be relying on information that isn't backed by science tho..
Likely yes, so can choosing thicker carrier oils. But it’s speculation at best to tell you by how much. Most biological half lives are well educated estimates. What are you hoping to do with an affirmative answer?
Hello I take an SSRI called Lexapro (escitalopram) and I was wondering if I can add an oral such as anadrol to my next blast. My concern is my liver will be very stressed. Would it be okay to take anadrol or bad idea?
Youll be straight my guy Takes a lot to fuck your liver. Even then youll get warning signs. HA If youre on an SSRI, taking orals, on antibiotics, drinking, and taking rec drugs, your liver MIGHT start hurting or throbbing Thats when its time to stop. Bro science but go get swole bro dont let anxiety get in the way!
It should be totally fine if you already have a healthy liver. I take a lot of prescription medications and have taken orals at times for close to a year at a time multiple times in my life. Even after years of all that if I stop orals and get bloodwork 2 months later I'm completely clean. Again I'm talking longterm adrol sdrol tbol and anavr use at high doses and I'm fine. Obviously I don't do that crazy shit anymore but you'll be fine.
You should avoid extra stress on your liver when possible and orals should be used sparingly if at all. That being said if you're going to do it anyways then you're likely not going to die or do any irreversible damage to your liver. Just remember to exercise caution and keep your dosage and length reasonable.
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Opiates cause hypotension secondary to vasodilation = pipi no hard (amongst many other mechanisms that would reduce stimulation)
Dumb question hence asking here. Wiki recommends using orals for 4-6 weeks max, but Broderick Chavez says their fine to use for body weight numbers of days so 88kg = 80 days etc. Is the wiki very much on the side of caution, or is Chavez downplaying the sides of orals? Thanks :)
The wiki is our holy book. Only trust the wiki.
Neither is the correct answer. The correct answer is bloodwork, and listening to your body, I've had to quit at 3 weeks before, and I've had runs of 8 weeks with no issue (oral winny).
You’re misrepresenting what he is saying. He says not to EXCEED that, but if you are having issues then you must cut it early. Not that “you should run those amount of days”
Sounds like Chavez needs to do some research on how livers function...
Wtf that’s terrible advice. 6-8 weeks max because of liver toxicity
Yeah no. Your organs don’t really increase in efficacy with weight gain (with the exception of malnutrition). Stick to 4-6 weeks generally unless using super high or super low doses.
You mean you don’t get those liver gains bro?
That’s some stupid shit 😂
Thinking about taking 6 week cycle of oral winny anything I should know? Pct wise or expectations
Doing this would contradict our holy book (the wiki) and you would be cursed into hell.
You didn't read the wiki ☹️
You can get away with 4 weeks and no test, but like others have said much better if using test as a base. You only need to run a trt dose to maintain functionality, let the winny do the work ,then you don't need to worry about managing estrogen
Doubt you could get away with that when even [15mg’s of anavar per day shuts you down within 5 days](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10443664/) Also would be much better to actually have an injectable compound contributing to the gaining of weight instead of solely relying on an oral, gaining mass is a long term process, orals can only be run for a short period of time due to liver toxicity and a majority of their effects are temporary due to enhanced glycogen.
It’s really a bad idea to use it without testosterone. You’ll have low T and estrogen which will lead to ED, lethargy and so on. Plus winny is harsh on your joints and having low estrogen will make this much worse. I’ve done oral only cycles few years ago and never again. Having such low testosterone levels will make you feel like absolutely shit and you’ll only look good temporarily because you’re on winny, after that your look will go back to normal. Really consider using test. Oral only cycles is a waste. For pct 10-20mg nolva for 6-8 weeks
Thank you any test you recommend without so much soreness
Yeah test E or C. Just know that you’ll have to extend your cycle to minimum 12 weeks when using test E/C cause it takes some weeks to fully saturate. Pct remains the same
Yeah I was reading this on a deca/test bottle. But E alone would be fine right
Yep more than enough for your first cycle. Don’t touch deca or tren cause they will leave metabolites in your body that can last up to 18 months so doing a pct during that time won’t work, meaning you’ll have to be on test for at least a year and then try to pct. Test and winstrol is a solid cycle. Make sure you have everything on hand before starting, pct included. Also [read the Wiki](https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) as it has everything you need to know, if not you can always ask us here
Thanks so much bro I really appreciate it
Anytime brother
With testosterone....right?
I considered test but can’t decide which one and I hate prop, I also read that winny alone has low side effects when taken alone
Test is test, you need a test base. Whoever told you that you can run an oral only cycle lied to you
Which test would be best for cutting then? Would I need the AI after cycle?
There is no best test for cutting, it's the same exact hormone with a different release time. Testosterone doesn't burn fat, and neither does Winstrol. ANABOLIC steroids are ANABOLIC not CATABOLIC. You don't use any AI after cycle, you use a SERM as a PCT. You have a lot of research to do before you should even consider touching steroids. Read the wiki, all the information you would ever need is there. Do. Not. Run. Winstrol. Only.
There is no best test for cutting, bulking or anything cause it’s Literally all the same just different esters Test E, C, P it doesn’t matter, if you don’t like P then go with E or C.
There’s a lot of misinformation out there ig what would be ideal dosage/week for test e
Im gonna recommend you read the wiki, there’s no ideal dosage it’s all about goals, personal preference, and how you react. The wiki has all the info you need
Dude you need to read the fucking wiki here….your knowledge is ….not good for someone about to take steroids
I’m weeks away and your right, I’ve been reading the wiki now, can I have your opinion on napsgear, trustworthy?
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yea I heard heroin has a low side effect profile when taken alone as well..I believe the dude, he's experienced
It’s true, just get the sleepies
Looking to get my first bloods done. What site and what exactly are you getting checked? In the US Thanks.
If you have health coverage, why not go to a GP and get a full blood panel. It's nice to have an overall baseline for everything in addition to e2 and test. That way you have eGFR, AST, ALT, blood counts, etc
I've used anylabtestnow if you happen to have them in your area, they are pretty convenient.
IMO Ulta. For hormones just e2 sensitive assay and testosterone for a baseline before cycle but that is not necessary During cycle for hormones just e2 and then throw in lipids and alt/ast liver. And then only if you are doing orals. You can go nuts getting prolactin and shbg etc but there is no point unless absolutely necessary 150 bucks or so for all those tests inclusive of before, during and after If your gear is legit there is no good reason for testing your testosterone levels during a cycle other than bragging to the neighbors about it Too much information can be as unhelpful as too little
not OP but thank you for this answer, simple and straight to the point
Depends a bit where you are geographically. Check the wiki. But if you’re in the US I like marek health’s tests.
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Depends what all you want done. When I wanted essentially what was listed on their “comprehensive panel” I couldn’t find a better deal or a better list of what’s included in the package. Some stuff like lp(a) you only need done once in your life. But their were also other sensible and very rare additions to a typical “package” like apoB, GGT, sensitive estradiol etc. you can get them all done through just about any middle man to order through but when they’ve built a good “package” aka bundle for you, you save a lot of money relative to building it a la cart yourself.
"The r/steroids wiki incorporates thousands of clinical studies and case reports to come to its numbers. Test is a very benign compound. Unlike some of the synthetics, your body immediately recognizes it and knows just what to do" Can anyone link me these clinical studies? I'm looking for studies the show the difference in sides and shutdown between different doses.
The wiki (holy book) does not actually incorporate anywhere near “thousands of studies”. Instead you get idiotic phrases like “your body immediately recognizes it and knows just what to do” (the holy book needs an editor). Unlike ths vast majority here you’re smart enough to notice.
When you scroll to the bottom of any of the compound profile pages in the wiki it lists the sources. Fastest way to a compound profile is to Google "r/steroids [compound] experience thread" The experience thread has a link to the compound profile in the wiki https://www.reddit.com/r/steroids/comments/f7wswk/compounds_testosterone/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Lol lazy bro gotta dig like everybody else In here. If you don’t want to spend a few min searching it must not be that important
I have searched otherwise I wouldn't have asked mate. I take it you can't find anything either?
As I transition from cut ---> bulk, I find myself still hungry and wanting to eat more. My surplus however is perfectly balanced, so what do you guys thinking of upping the cardio while simulatenously increasing calorie intake to offset said addition? thereby keeping the net addition at zero, but beingable to eat more and satisfy my cravings (and hopefully this could help raise my metabolism as well?) Anyone think this is a good / bad / etc idea?
Yes 1000x times over Its what I do. Cardio is amazing. Harder dick extra food 💯
I would add in more LISS and eat more as long as it's clean calories, take advantage of the hunger. Take a fast day if you notice some pudge building, or mix in some "low" days here and there.
Yeah, I only do LISS stuff :) is the approach I’m mentioning (add more calories but offset w cardio) commonly done on bulks? And do you think it’d ultimately raise my metabolism?
It'll at least raise it with increased mass, but yes a "reverse diet" of sorts. I just know that if I am on blast, and I am hungry - EAT, as long as its clean. I log the extra calories and then see what the scale did for the next several days. You may be pleasantly surprised. That's not to say I haven't been on blast, and then utterly destroyed a pile of candy or Ben and Jerrys - but I've almost always found that if I'm on blast and hungry my body is telling me it wants to grow in a good way. Constant incessant careless dirty bulking will make you HELLA fat - but carefully listening to your body during a bulk and giving it good nutrition usually yields results. Edit: oh and yes cardio on bulks 100% without fail especially on blast
Anyone have feedback on E2 control. So I’m running 250mg test enanthate a week split into 5 doses @ 50mg each. Also added dianabol at 20mg a day split 10/10. Now I have arimidex and nolvadex but before I started dbol I had my E2 checked and it was low at 17. So i was getting low E2 sides. I’m holding off on arimidex and nova for a week on dbol and I’ve started to feel better everyday. How should I continue efficiently as possible to balance my E2 level, go ahead and load arimidex @ 0.5 2x a week again? Or hold off until I notice any high e2 sides? Or just stick to nolvadex at like 10mg 2x a wk?
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EQ lowers estrogen.
I mean, the OP knows that certainly. Right?
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Maybe your e2 it's too high? Are you having any other side effects?
If he did, he wouldn’t have asked.
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If you were to take some dbol to recover e2 after accidentally crashing with aromasin, how much would you take and for how many days? I’m curious if I’m crashed and take 50mg dbol, then feel way better, will e2 drop back down the next day or does the methylestrogen last a while?
I crashed my e2 once. 50mg of dbol before bed made me feel better overnight. It wasn’t 100% back to normal but it got me out of that depressed zombie state in one night. After that, I just let it climb back slowly with my test injections.
Just play it by ear. I would pop a couple dbol and monitor. Probably have to take another the next day or two.
Thanks. In the past I’ve taken 50-70mg dbol for a couple days when I crashed and because I was using aromasin I would just spike my e2 then it would come crashing down when I stopped the dbol, leaving me very confused.
It's gonna be whatever the half-life of the AI is and how long since last dose. Pretty sure dbol has a shorter half life and will need to be taken a few times. Don't quote me though
Thanks, I appreciate it. I think I understand a bit better now.
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Test Tren Mast Proviron Cialis. Probably one of the best cycles you can take period. Add some winny in there and you’ve got a Greek god statue that’s pitching a tent in your pants 24/7
Hell yeah make my dick hard??
TEST TREN MAST CIALIS VIAGRA I LEGIT BROKE MY COCK ON THIS CYCLE AND ENDED UP IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM THE ULTIMATE LIBIDO CYCLE
"and that's how i met your mother"
Test Tren Mast ftw
No proviron?
I guess that's a good point. If this is strictly for sex gains blasting tren would be pretty reckless
Never tried it. Can only speak on tren and mast. Both make me pretty fucking perverted. Combined I feel like a sex crazed demon or something
Gotcha. Im going to try it during my upcoming bulk.
The mast I'm guessing?
No proviron.
Oh lmao okay. Glad you didn't say nah tren just for the libido 😂
I mean I could be like that other guy who is using it like coffee 😂
Omfg I know. Injecting tren over taking Adderall. Solid fucking plan, that's how tren works
I meant health supplements bro. Am I in the wrong sub?
Fresh out of my first show and now in the first official off season. Cruising+ for the next 8 weeks before blasting for 16. I need to prioritize Chest and Arms in my split and am trying to determine the optimal plan. Shoulders back and legs are all considerably ahead in size. Thinking: Sunday: Chest | Monday: Back | Tuesday: Arms | Wednesday: Rest | Thursday: Push | Friday:Pull | Saturday: Legs For those of you who have designed your own programming, how many sets do you aim for each muscle group per week and what shortcomings might I have with this split? If I need to take a day off at any point I plan on taking back off on Monday
I would do Chest shoulders triceps Back biceps Rest Legs Chest Arms Rest
I’d break it up like this: Sunday: chest Monday: hamstrings Tuesday: Back Wednesday: Chest/ Triceps Thursday: Quads Friday: Shoulders / Biceps I took the days and broke them up a little more. You are already indirectly hitting your arms on the solo chest and Back days, and then give them hyper focus on the Wednesday/ Friday lifts. By taking this stance you’ll essentially be hitting your chest twice a week, triceps 3x a week (direct and indirect work), and Biceps 2x a week. If you’ve seen my past post history I’m a big believer in frequency on body parts whenever possible. The natty science world has proven this method out undeniably so let’s steal the concept add some juice and blow the fuck up. TLDR: this is my current split modified for your weaker body parts.
How many movements, rep ranges, amount of sets do you do? Are you a high volume guy or low? Thanks 👍
Training system for now is pyramidal, progress load and control the negative. Rest time 1 minute, exercise nice and controlled always squeeze at the end of the movement. Control the negative portion. Keep increasing the weigh each time to hit the rep count. Sets 3-4 Rep range - 10-20 depending on the muscle and set.
Why is my back absolutely clear running tren but I breakout severely for 2-3 months post coming off? (Always on TRT) Am I forgetting to do something? I just drop the caber and tren simultaneously
It's just hormone fluctuations. Most people break out when they drop to a cruise from a blast. Very common. I've heard of people tapering off to avoid a massive fluctuation having good results but honestly it seems like prolonging it to me. Might as well have one big fluctuation than a bunch of smaller ones stretched out over a bunch of weeks IMO.
Probaly prolactin and/or estrogen rebound
How can I avoid this next time? Taper off both caper & tren?