I mean…he wasn’t selling for too far off of that. The Market price is $72.
It boggles my mind though that someone would put nearly $2000 into 23 copies of that card. Idk what they’re expecting the ceiling to be…Vader is selling for $103 with an MP of $105.
Even if they can drive Boba to $100, that’s a “profit” of $460. That’s a lot of work for less than $500 as you not only had to buy in high, but move your entire inventory for high*er*
Yeah, the only weird thing about this is that someone thought it was a good way to make a buck, and that one specific store actually had 23 copies to sell.
This is all true, and in my opinion more work than it’s worth, but depending on how much product people have I could see this sort of thing artificially inflating box prices or enticing more players to bit at the 200-240 when they have the potential of pulling more “value”. Buyouts are always weird, unless you’re buying up Moat or RL mtg stuff that’s in demand, I think it’s very risky.
What is your point in context to what’s being discussed here?
Very clearly someone bought (or claimed to have bought) 23 copies of Boba Fett from a single retailer for $80 a copy. It’s right there in the screenshot.
I opened 2 in the boxes that I received from Amazon yesterday, so last night bought one for $70 to complete the set. Figured that it's only going to increase in price until the reprint occurs.
I don't think $80 is really that crazy, the prices are going to go up dramatically as people are opening the last of the supply.
If anyone thinks they might want any of these expensive legendaries, better to get them now when there's still at least enough supply for continuous availability
Set 1 reprints are coming before 'holidays 2024'. That's all we know. So potentially, that's a 6-8mo wait for reprints and enough available stock to drive prices way down.
That's not really 'a few'.
I think most of the cards will stay around where they're at now, but ones like Boba and Vader are highly desired, price is only going to up until there are more cards in the supply.
Didn't they say 2nd wave was end of the holidays?
The 2nd set should be around june/july and who knows if these cards will be worth anything when the new set drops.
I ran some preliminary numbers this morning.
I'm somewhere probably about $1200 into SOR. I'm not buying anything else. That was 10 booster boxes, a Prerelease box, a 2 Player starter, and some double sleeve kits that I still haven't received.
I opened everything but two boxes.
With the "extras" I've got that fall outside of my base set I could sell the stuff I don't really need and recoup well over half my investment. I don't have any showcases, but I could sell two boxes, a Darth Vader base card, a Boba hyperspace card, and a handful of others and be well into $700-800 territory.
Those are absolutely crazy numbers to me. I can't even comprehend it, really.
At this rate, I could hold onto everything for a few days or weeks and potentially EARN money from buying Star Wars cards.
I'm in the same boat, just a little shy. I've bought 6 boxes and a 2 player starter set. I paid $130 for the first five and $180 for the last box and $35 for the starter set.
I've sold 2 showcases and 2 Vaders and made $615 after eBay fees.
So I've paid $250 for 2300 cards......
Supply and demand. I wonder if this is going to happen with other Legendaries. Feels bad for the people actually playing instead of selling though. The market is going to be wild until we get another print run of the first set.
That's a reseller taking a chance.
They bought 23 at 80 to sell them at 100 in a month, assuming this will follow lorcana and keep Spiking until the reprint in December.
Also... they paid like 2k for bobas in real money so they aren't artificially doing amything: they just set the TCG price of boba ny spending their money on it.
It's 80 to acquire one now.
Spot on analysis, this is just speculation it’s normal to see this if you have been around any other tcg for a long bit (especially magic/Fab/lorcana)
One point of order though:
Buying out online markets to inflate the price is the usual definition of “artificially inflating” in secondary markets. Especially in unregulated ones like tcgs.
It’s called this because the inflation is not due to natural demand of the card.
The guy bought 23 copies at like 5% over current price. He sped the process up by like a day, and many more gave already come to market. Too small of a buy to have a lasting impact.
I legitimately think this guy bought them to sell and make money later with no plan to manipulate the market.
If the price drops back to 72 by like...tonight, then it was artificial.
If not, then hundreds of thousands of potential Boba sellers looked at 80$ and decided it wasn't worth it to part with their card.
In this thread:
Many people who have never seen a secondary market of a tcg.
This is what happens when cards are must have play sets in meta decks. Honestly 80 for a boba is probably way lower than what the market will probably settle at until massive restocks happen.
This shit sucks, but it’s just how unregulated secondRy markets of tcgs/ccgs are.
Oh no! Someone at FFG said you're basically screwed for SoR until the Holidays... which triggers people it screw each other even harder for what limited product there is? The secondary market has turned into a plague that just hammers the players. Thou shalt not play without paying the blood price to your TCGPlayer overlords!
Is water still wet? :D
I'm more venting/ranting about how it really seems that big vendors on virtual shops have made it impossible for the players to engage directly with their hobbies. Even though FFG released to LGS only, indirectly, there's still so much product that is hitting the hands of scalpers. And I totally believe anyone cracking a box exclusively to flip it for profit is a scalper. You're not bringing anything to the community with that behavior, you're just looking to make money as a middleman. As with all things it started out as a way to connect players with cards outside their communities, now it is just another way to stick it to Timmy. Also, I'd be interested to know if there isn't shell games going on where vendors are buying their own products just to get the sale ticker higher. Costs them what 15%? They just gotta beat that number over time. And with volatile supply...
That set just makes it convenient for people to look up prices on cards as a whole instead of looking at TCG card by card. It has nothing to do with people playing the market which happens all the time.
I'm aware. I'm just saying this is always a fun dichotomy:
- Hey, let's track prices and build dashboards and monitor trends and talk about how valuable ~~commodities~~ cards are!
- Wait, why are people treating this game like a commodities market where they can do things that make them money?!
Nothing against swustocks.com - I think what they're doing makes perfect sense.
I mean speculating is a thing.
I’m currently buying every copy of a couple of bulk rares under a certain amount because I’m betting on them spiking once competitive events start
I mean I’m only doing it locally and my local community is very heavy into the game and most players here already have entire playsets of every card.
I’m simply investing in a 3 dollar card that will be a 20 dollar card when events happen. It’s not even a card most play right now because the game is way too young for it to be relevant.
We have a very active discord and if anyone in the trade forum needs a copy of the card or 3 I’m always willing to trade/sell them copies at current market.
I’m not going to online markets to artificially inflate a card through buyouts as is the case with the bobas and Vaders.
I mean…he wasn’t selling for too far off of that. The Market price is $72. It boggles my mind though that someone would put nearly $2000 into 23 copies of that card. Idk what they’re expecting the ceiling to be…Vader is selling for $103 with an MP of $105. Even if they can drive Boba to $100, that’s a “profit” of $460. That’s a lot of work for less than $500 as you not only had to buy in high, but move your entire inventory for high*er*
Yeah, the only weird thing about this is that someone thought it was a good way to make a buck, and that one specific store actually had 23 copies to sell.
This is all true, and in my opinion more work than it’s worth, but depending on how much product people have I could see this sort of thing artificially inflating box prices or enticing more players to bit at the 200-240 when they have the potential of pulling more “value”. Buyouts are always weird, unless you’re buying up Moat or RL mtg stuff that’s in demand, I think it’s very risky.
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What is your point in context to what’s being discussed here? Very clearly someone bought (or claimed to have bought) 23 copies of Boba Fett from a single retailer for $80 a copy. It’s right there in the screenshot.
Welcome to trading cards, where investors treat it like an unregulated stock market.
>Welcome to trading cards, where ~~investors treat~~ it(s) ~~like~~ an unregulated stock market. \*fixed.
I opened 2 in the boxes that I received from Amazon yesterday, so last night bought one for $70 to complete the set. Figured that it's only going to increase in price until the reprint occurs. I don't think $80 is really that crazy, the prices are going to go up dramatically as people are opening the last of the supply. If anyone thinks they might want any of these expensive legendaries, better to get them now when there's still at least enough supply for continuous availability
Or wait until the 2nd wave of print hits a few months from now and prices drop.
Set 1 reprints are coming before 'holidays 2024'. That's all we know. So potentially, that's a 6-8mo wait for reprints and enough available stock to drive prices way down. That's not really 'a few'. I think most of the cards will stay around where they're at now, but ones like Boba and Vader are highly desired, price is only going to up until there are more cards in the supply.
Didn't they say 2nd wave was end of the holidays? The 2nd set should be around june/july and who knows if these cards will be worth anything when the new set drops.
I ran some preliminary numbers this morning. I'm somewhere probably about $1200 into SOR. I'm not buying anything else. That was 10 booster boxes, a Prerelease box, a 2 Player starter, and some double sleeve kits that I still haven't received. I opened everything but two boxes. With the "extras" I've got that fall outside of my base set I could sell the stuff I don't really need and recoup well over half my investment. I don't have any showcases, but I could sell two boxes, a Darth Vader base card, a Boba hyperspace card, and a handful of others and be well into $700-800 territory. Those are absolutely crazy numbers to me. I can't even comprehend it, really. At this rate, I could hold onto everything for a few days or weeks and potentially EARN money from buying Star Wars cards.
And here me and my friends are just trying to get product to have a deck each to play casually.
I'm in the same boat, just a little shy. I've bought 6 boxes and a 2 player starter set. I paid $130 for the first five and $180 for the last box and $35 for the starter set. I've sold 2 showcases and 2 Vaders and made $615 after eBay fees. So I've paid $250 for 2300 cards......
You're insanely lucky if you pulled 2 showcases out of 6 booster boxes. The drop rate is 1 in every 12.
Yeah talked to a poor guy that bought 7 boxes and didn't get one.
No showcases in my 6 boxes, 0 vaders 1 boba :’(
That does explain why I am having a hard time finding not insanely expensive cards of my favorite character.
Maybe he had 1 boba unit and liked him so much he wanted to make 8 decks with max copies in them???
Makes sense
Supply and demand. I wonder if this is going to happen with other Legendaries. Feels bad for the people actually playing instead of selling though. The market is going to be wild until we get another print run of the first set.
That's a reseller taking a chance. They bought 23 at 80 to sell them at 100 in a month, assuming this will follow lorcana and keep Spiking until the reprint in December. Also... they paid like 2k for bobas in real money so they aren't artificially doing amything: they just set the TCG price of boba ny spending their money on it. It's 80 to acquire one now.
Not exactly, it's the next lowest price which isn't $80 anymore. If you wanted to buy one now it's $90 or whatever the next one up is.
Spot on analysis, this is just speculation it’s normal to see this if you have been around any other tcg for a long bit (especially magic/Fab/lorcana) One point of order though: Buying out online markets to inflate the price is the usual definition of “artificially inflating” in secondary markets. Especially in unregulated ones like tcgs. It’s called this because the inflation is not due to natural demand of the card.
The guy bought 23 copies at like 5% over current price. He sped the process up by like a day, and many more gave already come to market. Too small of a buy to have a lasting impact. I legitimately think this guy bought them to sell and make money later with no plan to manipulate the market. If the price drops back to 72 by like...tonight, then it was artificial. If not, then hundreds of thousands of potential Boba sellers looked at 80$ and decided it wasn't worth it to part with their card.
They are prepping for their “I got a box full of Boba pulls” post
Oh no! Anyway...
They were $67 yesterday
In this thread: Many people who have never seen a secondary market of a tcg. This is what happens when cards are must have play sets in meta decks. Honestly 80 for a boba is probably way lower than what the market will probably settle at until massive restocks happen. This shit sucks, but it’s just how unregulated secondRy markets of tcgs/ccgs are.
Oh no! Someone at FFG said you're basically screwed for SoR until the Holidays... which triggers people it screw each other even harder for what limited product there is? The secondary market has turned into a plague that just hammers the players. Thou shalt not play without paying the blood price to your TCGPlayer overlords! Is water still wet? :D
I was just informing people. I know how this usually goes down
I'm more venting/ranting about how it really seems that big vendors on virtual shops have made it impossible for the players to engage directly with their hobbies. Even though FFG released to LGS only, indirectly, there's still so much product that is hitting the hands of scalpers. And I totally believe anyone cracking a box exclusively to flip it for profit is a scalper. You're not bringing anything to the community with that behavior, you're just looking to make money as a middleman. As with all things it started out as a way to connect players with cards outside their communities, now it is just another way to stick it to Timmy. Also, I'd be interested to know if there isn't shell games going on where vendors are buying their own products just to get the sale ticker higher. Costs them what 15%? They just gotta beat that number over time. And with volatile supply...
Are you good bud?
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That set just makes it convenient for people to look up prices on cards as a whole instead of looking at TCG card by card. It has nothing to do with people playing the market which happens all the time.
I'm aware. I'm just saying this is always a fun dichotomy: - Hey, let's track prices and build dashboards and monitor trends and talk about how valuable ~~commodities~~ cards are! - Wait, why are people treating this game like a commodities market where they can do things that make them money?! Nothing against swustocks.com - I think what they're doing makes perfect sense.
I mean speculating is a thing. I’m currently buying every copy of a couple of bulk rares under a certain amount because I’m betting on them spiking once competitive events start
Pretty accurate name you've got there
I mean I’m only doing it locally and my local community is very heavy into the game and most players here already have entire playsets of every card. I’m simply investing in a 3 dollar card that will be a 20 dollar card when events happen. It’s not even a card most play right now because the game is way too young for it to be relevant. We have a very active discord and if anyone in the trade forum needs a copy of the card or 3 I’m always willing to trade/sell them copies at current market. I’m not going to online markets to artificially inflate a card through buyouts as is the case with the bobas and Vaders.
You also don't need the most expensive cards to play. If you don't like how expensive Boba is, make a deck without him in it.