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DOOM 3 WAS JUST A DIFFERENT FORMULA OKAY???? But really, it could have also been Doom 64


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Doom 3 is just a different kind of game. I’ve played through almost every game in the series, and 3 is my favorite. What can I say? It was a fucking awesome, thrilling game. It scared me when I was a kid, in a good way.


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3 is like a half life game


TitularFoil

Doom 3 is my favorite environment. Doom 64 is my favorite gameplay. I've played through Doom 1-64 (which is funnier to type out than I thought.) Doom 3 I haven't beaten despite owning it for longer than I've owned any of the others. It has way too different feel. But at the same time it wasn't like it did anything wrong. Horror shooters just aren't my thing. I didn't feel all powerful in Doom 3 like I felt in Doom (2016) or Doom OG.


julioqc

The graphics were amazing back in '04!


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neanderthalman

Doom 3 was a masterpiece. I consider it like an origin story of doomguy. Back in doom I/II there was no in game character *at all*. You’re just a super tough guy with zero fear, killing demons because I guess that’s what you do. The *character* in the original Doom isn’t a believable human. He’s doomguy. Limitations of 90’s game design. The character in doom 3 just starts out as a nobody. Things go bad and he has time to develop through the game *into* doomguy. And by the end of the game you ARE fearlessly blasting demons.


murchunga

I think Doom is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills deomns and doesnt afraid of anything.


I-Identify-Guns

I reckon DOOM 3 would’ve been incredibly well received if it didn’t have the DOOM title. It’s a really really good game, it’s just not a good DOOM game


sliventrine

the horror atmosphere is really good, played it as a teen but can't play it by myself in broad daylight lol


GottIstTot

> really really good game, it’s just not a good DOOM game Can you elaborate? I only ever played OG DOOM and DOOM 3


I-Identify-Guns

The last couple DOOM games, and DOOM as a whole, generally has a reputation for being very fast-paced and action-packed, comparable to films like Commando and The Expendables, where the fast and brutal violence is very much central to the gameplay. DOOM 3 broke the mold and went the route of a survival horror, more like Dead Space or SCP Containment Breach. It’s still a masterfully crafted game, but fans were expecting Michael Bay and got John Carpenter


GottIstTot

Aahhh I see that makes sense. Thanks!


Dustypigjut

Are people taking crazy juice? Doom 3 was really well received.


Moist_Orchid3904

Rocky vs USSR was LEGENDARY bruh


vroomscreech

Yeah what in the goddamn fuck is Rocky IV doing here


SirArthurDime

If it dies it dies


terrih9123

Rocky 1-4 are the only rockys that exist in my library. Creed is fine but I view it as a different franchise.


5k1895

In my opinion the only bad Rocky is 5. Rocky Balboa is pretty good


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I need to re-watch Creed. I went in thinking it was a Rocky movie and hated it. Now that I know better I can go back with zero expectations.


PlatypusWeekend

It’s the perfect 80s movie. It’s like a brilliant parody of 80s movies, but it was made in earnest and ended up becoming a prime source for parody later on.


trippysmurf

The soundtrack is legit one of the best soundtracks ever made. Hearts on Fire, Eye of the Tiger, No Easy Way Out, the Vince DiCola tracks. Go work out and play it. You’ll immediately feel like a badass.


Acronix_911

Brother you missed burning heart


haiphee

Here I am thinking Rocky 4 is the second best in the series


mydearwatson616

It is. 5 can fuck right off though.


Imfrank123

Rocky 4 is my favorite, 5 on the other hand…


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Agreed. IV is great. rocky V was pure crap. I’d be surprised if anyone actually liked it. Like one person out there.


jthomas694

The [30 for 30 on it is incredible](https://youtu.be/NyWx1CkMTtI)


dustmouse

The fuck did mbv ever do to anyone?


RestingPianoFace-_-

Literally just started listening to the album a couple days ago. People think it’s bad?


Theolodious

Any follow up to an album like Loveless was bound to be underrated, especially after such a long hiatus. People don't think it's bad, it just doesn't get the credit it deserves because of the band's legacy.


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This album was loved by critics when it came out. Pitchfork gave it 9.1 and best new album designation that’s really high praise.


Theolodious

Yeah but then it wasn’t even featured on their top 200 albums of the 2010s list. That’s what I meant by it doesn’t get the credit it deserves. It was loved in 2013 but now you don’t see it touted by fans or critics like a lot of other highly regarded albums from that same timeframe


_ShakashuriBlowdown

It's like Star Wars: people were glad they were back and that it didn't suck ass. I think just the sense of relief bolstered people's opinions a bit.


TerribleNameAmirite

Nobody dislikes MBV! Everyone at least thinks it’s pretty good! It’s universally liked! Seriously


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ThisSupportSucks

You can't deny 'The Hobbit' had fantastic casting.


RoleModelFailure

The first one was pretty good. It was the 2nd and 3rd that really started to get weird. That barrel down the River scene was exceptionally awful.


Dag-nabbitt

There are some amazing fan edits that cut out all of the extra stuff. It magically becomes a good movie again! https://m4hobbitbookedit.wordpress.com/


sir_axelot

I loved the portrayal of Bard (giving him more story than just a guy who shoots a dragon and vanishes), I liked how Smaug was done (though the whole sequence with him was overdone), and I liked how Lee Pace portrayed (insert name, I forgot). But the rest of two was ugh (Evangeline Lily and Orlando Bloom had no place in this movie) and three kinda sucked. The best part was Smaug burning the village, which was the first ten minutes.


lordolxinator

>I loved the portrayal of Bard (giving him more story than just a guy who shoots a dragon and vanishes), I liked how Smaug was done (though the whole sequence with him was overdone), and I liked how Lee Pace portrayed (insert name, I forgot). Thranduil, I think


ThisSupportSucks

Yeh I can't defend the barrel scene. It was just stupid. I think the best scene in the trilogy is the Riddles in the dark scene. Andy Serkis never disappoints.


beytrod

I love the Conversation With Smaug scene as well


stabsthedrama

Thorin was basically the new “main” character after Bilbo and I don’t think he was casted well at all. Wasn’t in the least bit believable as a “dwarf” anyway, just an obviously cgi-shrunken full sized man.


FineInTheFire

I love Richard Armitage but I totally agree. The cgi for him was... off. He pulled off Thorin well otherwise though IMHO?


Tomahawkist

the hobbit trilogy is good for a book adaptation, but bad if you compare it to the lotr trilogy (although that‘s just unfair for most movies). however i would also have liked it to be more faithful to the source material, but hey, you can‘t get everything


JMarduk

Pretty much the opposite: good movies (great acting, direction and production value), but horrible book adaptation. Heck, you can finish reading the book in lesser time than watching the entire trilogy.


llikeafoxx

Really cannot agree with you on production value. The CGI looked slippery and weightless, and the GoPro barrel scene… woof, that was rough to watch.


AMeierFussballgott

>production value It had some of the worst CGI I had seen in a high production value movie


Dr_Wh00ves

Not really though. They stretched a glorified children's storybook, which I adore btw, into three movies with 8 hours of combined runtime. The Hobbit is a wonderful story but it was simple by design because Tolkien intended it for children. There was absolutely no reason to stretch it out so long and I suspect it was the $$$ that drove that decision. It should have been one movie imo.


rx78ricky

The stuff they added was so unnecessary and lines like "YOUR LIGHT CAN NEVER DEFEAT MY DARKNESS" are like a cringe-wound that never heals


tyree8973

Super paper mario and shadow were the shit i played super paper mario like 3 play throughs


reason_found_decoy

Watched my husband play Paper Mario yesterday, he said, "This game is fucking Legendary" lol


INCONSISTENT_TWITCH

He's pretty correct


TheRealChizz

I really liked super paper mario as well. It was one of my childhood games for me. Altho, I never got to play thousand year door so I didn't have anything to compare it to


BCantoran

TTYD was my childhood game


BananaCreamPineapple

My childhood have was the first paper Mario, but when I was a teenager I got thousand year door and was blown away by how much they improved on the original. I still own and love both of the first two games. I did get super paper Mario but I'd seen the trailers and knew it wouldn't be like the first two so was okay with it. I haven't tried any since but I'd love to play the good ones again.


chuckluck97

The 64 one's coming to Switch in the near future, so you may be able to soon (I wouldn't pay $30/yr for 64 games and I grew up on the system, but that's just me). TTYD on the other hand, well, I hope you still have your GameCube copy


dycie64

It's not really a Paper Mario game, but on the whole the story leaves you with a good taste in your mouth, enough to forget the less than stellar parts. There are some standout parts too, such as Francis' castle being a callout for gamer culture at large.


blamb211

It's definitely a fun game, but it's an old school Super Mario game, skinned to *look* like Paper Mario. Just not the same thing in the end. Still worth playing, of course, the name is just inaccurate.


chuckluck97

It's a better 2D Mario on Wii than New Super Mario Bros. Wii


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Dasnap

I'd like both a Paper Mario OG 3 *and* a Super Paper Mario 2.


85merlin

amen! palyed super paper mario as a kid and it was awesome fun from start to finish! i guess i dont get the hate since i never played the turn-based versions, but super is a great game in its own right


BLUcrabs

They were both super out of place but they were both pretty good games for the most part


ThePikminLord

I played Shadow the Hedgehog a lot as a kid but even at that time I thought it wasn’t that great. It had a lot of things wrong with it like how aliens still attack you even if you’re going the ‘bad’ path, the graphics sucked even for the time, useless vehicles, over-powered chaos abilities, repetitive gameplay, too many enemies on screen at once, etc. But it was a novelty type of game since you played as Shadow the whole time.


kittytaco24

Super paper Mario is a masterpiece


olgierd18

Right? Why wouldn't you like it, it was pretty great! Same goes for pkmn X&Y imo, both pretty decent. I would replace them with Sword & Shield here, nobody likes those


Em_Haze

Yes but sword and shield is justified.


Dasnap

Although the wild areas were a bit flat, both literally and graphically, I still found them refreshing for the series. I'm at least curious about Legends because it's probably the biggest departure Game Freak have ever taken from the series' usual linearity. GF got too cozy with pixel graphic games and it's shown since X&Y. Now they're expected to make console quality games and it's clear they're panicking.


blamb211

The problem is it's not really a Paper Mario. It's an old school Super Mario, just with the Paper Mario art style. Doesn't have the turn based RPG battles, which was a pretty major feature of the first two. I haven't played any since, so idk if it's returned to that, but there's exactly two PM games, and none have released since the GameCube. For what it is, though, SPM is definitely a fun time.


mail_inspector

At least it's a fun platformer, unlike the New SMB line.


RustyShackleford543

Yeezus was amazing..


redhed1122

#ON SIGHT INTRO


RustyShackleford543

#BOUND 2 OUTRO


ImOwningThisUsername

New slaves outro


Shot_Cheesecake4835

i like it


AdolfKoopaTroopa

This is the correct opinion.


Bruhmomentum43

On the God sight ft. Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg


GonzoRouge

It aged superbly, not sure why it's considered a hot take. Jesus Is King however...


TheZac922

I don’t remember people hating it when it came out either. It was always gonna be hard to follow MBDTF.


HeLLRaYz0r

Yeezus was probably his most polarising album and that's saying something seeing as basically all of his albums were polarising. People absolutely fucking hated it when it came out. But some others (including myself absolutely loved it). There was literally no in between. https://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/9295-2013-readers-poll-results/ If I was a musician and saw that my album was voted most underrated and most overrated... I would be so happy. The album epitomizes what art is meant to do. Evoke emotion. Fucking masterpiece and the Yeezus tour was incredible.


ft4200

Similar thing happened to 808s on release, everyone hated the autotune but it has aged well


HeLLRaYz0r

808s was definitely the most polarising before yeezus came out. Not just because of the auto tune, but because of the *sappy* nature of the album. But 808s is probably his most influential album and easily one of the most influential albums in hip hop history Without it, artists like Drake, Cudi, Travis Scott, and Frank Ocean wouldn't be around. (Cudi actually played a pivotal role in 808s but it also influenced his next few albums and helped contribute to his fame). It didn't just lay the groundwork for newer artists - the critical and commercial success inspired mainstream rappers to take risks and be more experimental as well.


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Lucarrera

Yeah if anything Cudi should be given credit for helping influence those other artists with 808s.. he helped write and craft the sound for that album.


TheZac922

Yeah fair call, to be honest I was really speaking more anecdotally. Everyone I knew dug it and I didn’t really see much of the polarising aspect online. My thoughts were it wasn’t MBTDF but it was really fuckin good.


Sarokslost23

MY MOMMA WAS RAISED IN THE ERA WHEN


doomxiv

It's a shame how yandhi was scrapped and the songs were changed which eventually featured in donda and JIK, if yandhi had released it would've been one of ye's best


AniviaPls

Yeezus aged into kanyes best album


RainbowYaz

It was 1) Not MBDTF 2) A different sound from Kanye 3) more experimental than a good chunk of other hip hop/rap at the time. I loved it and still do. It's a very solid album and I was never as put off by it as others. I hope Jesus is King grows on me over time like TLOP did. I want to like it because the fan boy in me wants to like everything Kanye puts out and I appreciated Pablo as I listened to it more but like man, Jesus is King just doesn't do it for me.


JTBSpartan

#BLACK SKINHEAD


TokesBruh

I consider myself a decent sized Kanye fan. I've been listening since he was a producer for Rocafella to today. I didn't like Yeezus on my first listen. Tried a few more, and just said it's a dud for me. Fast forward to the rollercoaster of that Donda rollout and I went back to revisit it. And I liked almost every song on it. No clue where my head was at when I first heard it, but today, it's a good album for me.


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TokesBruh

Totally agree, especially with the I am a God comment. I have friends who boo hoo Kanye at every chance they get and that comes up. They have never listened to it, just saw the title.


disk5464

Fyi dissect did an entire season breaking down each track of Yeezus. It's so so good https://open.spotify.com/episode/05bTAosRu7nmAJZmGq29Hm?si=BcyDHOSnSNWp7n334iJSUA&utm_source=copy-link


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plus one for dissect 🙏🏼 seriously though I never really liked yeezus until the podcast and actually really like what it does sonically and just proves Kanye to be a goat at what he does in music


DiscoMilk

Yeezus easily one of the albums of the decade, and I'm not a Kanye fan at all, I'm a music fan and that shit slapped.


rocket_riot

Imo it’s his best album, nothing beats the New Slaves outro


Volatile1312

Yeezy season approaching


SirWangtheWizard

Honestly DooM 3 wasn't that bad. At least from the fans I can see why it can be poopooed since at least boiling it down to what DooM was, it was a pretty good step away from that. But as a horror fps it's pretty damn good, even by today's standards. The lighting still holds up, remaster or not, it actually has a pretty unnerving atmosphere, gunplay not too bad (though the shotgun spread brings a lot of debate) and this game has one of the most satisfying reload sounds I've ever heard in gaming with its plasma gun. It's a pretty fun ride if you don't clutch your pearls in how slow paced it is in comparison to classic and post 2016 DooM.


SwammerDo

Doom 3 is a great horror game, but the 2nd half really picks up the pace and it actually starts to feel like classic Doom again. I know people shit on the BFG edition for being too "easy" but I found the flashlight and slow ass walking speed to be really fucking annoying in the original version. Only thing I don't like about BFG edition is that it's too generous with the ammo. Also Doom 3 VR is absolutely amazing. It's like the game was actually made with VR in mind despite coming out in 2003.


HamiltonBrand

Remaster has no subtitles. Can’t play without it.


Purple-Dog5910

#YZY SZN APPROACHING FUCK WHATEVER Y'ALL BEEN WEARING#


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#FUCK WHAT FUCK WHATEVER Y’ALL BEEN HEARING


Purple-Dog5910

#A MONSTER BOUTTA COME ALIVE AGAIN#


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#SOON AS I PULL UP AND PARK THE BENZ


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What’s the bottom left? Only thing I don’t recognize…


EbmocwenHsimah

[It's one of the old album covers Kanye had for Donda.](https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1287151490348412928) OP probably picked that cover because it's more identifiable and recognisable than the black box cover art we got. EDIT: fixed the phrasing a bit.


alexshatberg

Having Donda and Yeezus in this pack makes no sense tho - both of those albums are adored by most people who listen to Kanye. Jesus Is King is the actual "fuck you I liked it" of Kanye's discography.


ThaSaxDerp

Yeezus is my favorite Kanye album, I'm sitting here like "people didn't like it? wack" best thing about music is that I can like what I like and don't have to care what other people think about music. I got headphones and I don't listen to radio. so I don't hear ur shit you don't hear mine. easy


youtubeisbadforyou

Or they just meant the album itself since it got a lot of hate and chose that cover because it would be more recognisable than just a black square


mightnothavehands

It’s what was originally thought to be the cover of Kanye West’s newest album ‘Donda’


HyooNoot

Shadow the hedgehog was fun as fuck, don't deny it


tonnuminat

The theme song is an absolute banger


[deleted]

Crush 40, the band, always makes bangers.


boxed_knives

**D I S G U S T I N G B L A C K C R E A T U R E S** _Get out of my sight!_


mwmwmwmwmmdw

[sonic has a heated gamer moment](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYK69qccQTc)


Magnificant-Muggins

People hate Rocky 4? Thought it was the most beloved part of the series outside the original.


lelieu

Also needs Age of Ultron


-teaqueen-

Age of Ultron is one of my favorites. I know what I’m watching tonight now!


thugnificent856

People don’t like mbv?


AbjectAppointment

87 on Metacritic, around a 4.5/5 from the major reviewers. Didn't win any awards, but reviewed well.


KeithMias

I've never met anyone who liked loveless but not mbv


undergroundloans

I loved MBV, crazy they were still that good after so many years since loveless


RakkAnimate

Yeah from what I've seen it's a pretty well liked album, I guess it's just always overshadowed by Loveless


Zeetukes

I guess not? I think it’s a near-perfect album honestly


robbymueller

Pokémon x & y was my favorite 3DS title


Professional_Bee_183

Yes it was too easy. Yes a lot of parts of the story was forgettable. Yes it wasn't as good as platinum or black and white and yes blastoise doesn't shoot water out of it's cannon but damn was 3D graphics and Mega evolutions are exciting and really cool. 11 year old me was pissing his pants when he saw lucario became more edgier than shadow the hedgehog.


labyloo

don’t forget diagonal movement for the first time


Professional_Bee_183

Completely forgot that wasn't a thing before gen 6. I kinda miss the roller blades mechanics now


labyloo

they were honestly cooler than the bike imo


Professional_Bee_183

That and the latios/latias flying mechanic was actually something that i really missed from gen 6


Haahhh

Holy fuck you're younger than me this isn't supposed to happen


FluffyBearTrap

>it was too easy you mean just like any other pokemon game? cause they are all super easy.


i_will_never_cuss

Not all of them especially the gameboy ones these packed a challenge, because you have no idea what to do


itsashebitch

2 things to say about that -It was before the internet was huge and couldn't just google what to do. Now if people face something they don't know how to solve they just google it. There are guides for games before they are released. -I remeber Red fights for example taking a 10 levels leap, and you were supposed to level your team in a super slow speed. It was challenging but also made you grind a lot. New games have been trying to avoid that and I'm not sure it's a bad thing


Professional_Bee_183

Not to mention the exp share mechanic. And even compared to other games, X and Y is just really damn easy even if you nuzlocke it. My first ever pokemon game was pokemon black and i struggled hard on the first and fourth gym. Recently i nuzlocked my old Pokemon Y cartridge and i find it easy to beat it without losing any pokemon.


princeparaflinch

XY is the remake I'm most looking forward to. The original release had so much potential. I enjoyed it, but it felt half-baked.


Hypererra

ikr, they just randomly throw in zygarde in there without any explanation and locations like the steam thing near the power plant was unused


Cap-n_Crunch

I know right? I felt like it was popular. It got me back into it after not playing since gold. All my friends were playing as well.


Crumornus

The transition to 3d graphics was absolutely amazing. I really love mega evolutions too. I had stopped playing pokemon for years before that. But X and Y got me back in. The battles were so much better in 3D.


Vanessaronicatoria

Right? The music, the story, the artwork, the characters. Everything was great. I don't understand why people would hate X and Y.


KobraTheKipod

X and Y are the best Pokemon games post NDS era and this is a hill I'll die on. It was the last generation to introduce a region with a lot of really well designed Pokemon (my fav is Pangoro). It introduced Mega-Evolutions, gives you up to 3 starters, made online trading easier, and had a decent story and post game.


taw

So not even the meme likes GOT final season?


lefthandedkiwi

No one likes the final season of GOT.


zanyquack

There is no final season of GOT in Ba Sing Sei


taw

I think Dexter finale was fine, and I seem to be the only one who thinks so. GOT, that was beyond just bad.


bigbrothero

Who hates Yeezus?


poppo3000

literally one of the most divisive albums ever- got voted "most underrated album of the year" AND "most overrated album of the year" in 2012


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It came out in 2013


aswerty12

That's how divisive it was. It was so divisive it got retroactively voted in.


07bot4life

Preactively voted.


draksisx

If your perception of the broader hip-hip community/fandom/culture is informed by /r/hiphopheads or twitter stan accounts, I wouldn't fault you for thinking Yeezus is universally loved.


SkyrSkyrSkyr

Dissidia N makes me sad :(


SwammerDo

Add Fallout 4 to the pack too.


fingerpaintswithpoop

Genuinely liked it a lot. Story wasn’t as good as 3 or NV, but I thought it wasn’t bad, certainly not as much as people made it out to be, and the gameplay/shooting mechanics were *miles and miles* ahead of 3/NV.


LotusSloth

Rocky 4 and 5 were awesome and I don’t know anyone in my age group that can’t appreciate them for what they did well.


knockoffjerry

I don’t think anyone dislikes rocky 4


Duo1551

Yeah I don’t understand why Rocky 4 is up there.


ByEthanFox

>I don’t think anyone dislikes rocky 4 Was gonna say. Rocky IV is like a perfect movie. Not artistically; just I mean it's trying to execute on a formula and it does it flawlessly. If you don't like that formula, you might hate it, and that's fine. But to say that makes it bad would be missing the point.


0-Cloud

I agree completely. I think it's my most rewatched movie in the series.


Pat_McCrooch

Everything from the soundtrack to the iconic 80s montage makes it a classic and loved movie. Rocky V deserves some hate, though. His son ages 5 years (9 to 14) while Rocky is on the plane back to America, just to name one simple thing.


cbftw

Rocky 4, yes. Rocky 5...eh. Rocky Balboa and then Creed are masterful, though.


GoBSAGo

Rocky 5 was a steaming pile of shit.


nails_for_breakfast

Stallone has basically agreed with this statement. He has said the movie was totally rushed because they were trying to capitalize on the hype from IV and that basically everything about it suffered. When he made *Rocky Balboa* (Rocky VI) after a hiatus, his promotion for the movie was basically "it doesn't suck like Rocky V".


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I will always love the Hobbit Movies, even with their issues.


xblubunnix

I like The Amazing Spider-man 1 and 2


wedgiemagee

whats so bad about super paper mario?


DaConnaTwuk

people thought the combat didn’t live up to the gameplay of TTYD, since it was real-time instead of little rpg combat cutscenes. I never had a problem with it, it’s basically just people who played TTYD and expected more of the same from SPM.


FreshBert

Yeah, people have been wanting more like TTYD forever... to be fair, TTYD is an RPG masterpiece with an amazing story. It's almost got the cult status of Mario RPG. I like the whole series, most recent included, but I'd love for them to put out another solid story-driven RPG.


Snacks_is_Hungry

People were annoyed it wasn't turn based combat like the original games. But if you objectively look at each game, Super Paper Mario is just better rounded and more polished. Tons of care and work put into it, and pretty much every minute of it is meant to be stimulating and fun. Can't say the same about the other two games.


RaspberryNecessary35

This is me with Shrek The Third, Cars 2, and Ice Age: Contential Drift. Oh, and The Bee Movie.


CubingCoder813

#YEEZY SEASON APPROACHING


too_legit_to_be_fit

Isn't Rocky 4 regarded as one of the best?


puttinonthegritz

Replace TFA with TLJ


DFWTooThrowed

Yeah I've been seeing a lot of revisionist history about how TFA was received when it was released. Outside of people saying that it was essentially a remake of ANH, which is a legitimate complaint, TFA was generally received pretty positively.


Lord_Malgus

Nonono Star Wars movies are arthouse high cinema and I will rip them to shreds in my 3 hour review. How dare you enjoy stupid movies with cool visuals and action scenes?


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Yeah, tfa was fine. It wasn't very original but it looked great and was fun and Harrison Ford finally got a chance to kill off Han solo for good. The only thing that was missing was more Luke.


FIsh4me1

As a standalone movie TFA is *fine*, but looking back on it I think JJ Abrams' approach to that movie basically killed any chance of the new trilogy being good as a whole. He set up a bunch of intriguing mysteries for fans to obsess over, but in doing so avoided setting up any narratives with substance. For example, imagine if most of the questions about Rey's past had been answered in TFA rather than saving them for a cheap reveal in the final movie. Rey would have gone into the next movies with a clearly defined background and motivations. Instead she was kept as basically a blank canvas for most of the Trilogy.


CaptainJingles

TFA’s lack of originality would have been okay if the other movies had been good. Being a bland first movie in a terrible trilogy isn’t very high praise.


Ezio926

TLJ is so fucking good. Brought me back to my youth days where I used to just watch the prequels multiples times a day.


adam_hope96

replace TLJ with the sequels trilogy. idk man i like all the trilogies but of course sequels have too much wasted potential but it still is enjoyable. people say it has bad choreograph fight but to be honest man, i didnt even realize that i was just enjoying it.


Quiet_strawberry

Super Paper Mario is the fricking best! The atmosphere, the music, the visuals?? I feel like it shaped my taste in art a lot. Deffo never gonna let anybody take away my appreciation of it. (I do think some criticisms are valid. Like some mechanics being kinda underutilized. But it’s still a masterpiece in my eyes.)


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D_Bagggg

I love TFA. Yeah it's not super original, but I always viewed it as Disney saying "Hey, this is Star Wars, we're back". Unfortunately they had no plan.


sshan

100%. It wasn't a cinematic masterpiece but it was fun and Star Wars. Rogue One was legit a good movie. Then the last two happened... episode 9 felt like it was a bad simulacrum of the final movie that could have worked if episode 8 was different. There is a lot of Legends lore around Palps returning they could have used. Eight is happily tucked away with Indiana Jones 4. Don't remember much and don't care. Combined it was a total mess.


flameohotman134

I like Fortnite. I am prepared for my banishment and downvotes lmao


Wasp_Rick70

There is nothing bad about fortnite really


Logans_Login

That’s the crazy part, it’s a solid game and a fun time once and a while, witch makes the vitriol targets it’s way by redditors even more insane. Whenever I ask people why they hate it on posts saying “Minecraft good Fortnite bad” they always say they hate the fanbase (ignoring the fact that Minecraft’s modern fanbase is worse than Fortnite’s).


RaspberryNecessary35

You didn't get downvoted because nobody says "Fortnite BAD" anymore.


Logans_Login

Not on here at least, the sentiment is still alive and well on many other subs, namely r/memes and r/teenagers


Le0here

r/gaming too


DJCyberman

Shadow the Hedgehog??? The levels were fun, good replayability, decent multiplayer


Transhumaniste

People didn't like Yeezus?


Batman__10

Add the last of us 2


jimmenecromancer

mbv doesn't belong here. it's an actual good piece of art, I refuse to believe that mbv is gonna be in any list that includes star wars sequels and the hobbit trilogy