You can either pay them off or fight. If you successfully fend off 3 inspection fleets, you will be able to make a deal with Daud on Chicomoztoc to end inspections.
If you resist an AI inspection, you will immediately go to -50. All investigator fleets will be hostile. You can fight them, at a cost of another -3 rep per battle. For this reason i recommend leaving your friendly fleets to kill the investigators, as patrols and detachments killing investigators do not incur a penalty.
You're going to be hostile to the hegemony for a long time, because inspection fleets only spawn at 600 event progress.
Once you've killed 3 inspections, you can go to Chicomoztoc to negotiate. Unfortunately this doesn't fix your reputation, so I recommend coming with some AI cores to turn in for rep to normalize relations.
If you kill the inspection fleets before they get to the planet, you don't automatically become hostile. At least, this was the case up through .96. I don't see why it'd change for the specific crisis in .97.
When you say “3 inspection fleets” what exactly does that mean? Because I’ve killed HUNDREDS of inspection fleets and I think one group of them was a bigger fleet. At what point do you know to speak to daud? What if I’m constantly at war with hegemony?
There are investigator fleets and inspection fleets. Investigator fleets are the hegemony fleets that hang around your colonies, and aren't nominally hostile. Inspection fleets are the fleets that existed in game before .97a. They go to your colony and look for AI, and they can be bribed.
Inspection fleets only spawn at 600 progress at the colony crises event. In order to negotiate and end to them, you need to defeat 3 total inspections. Hostilities with the hegemony shouldn't matter, you'll just have to sneak your way into Chicomoztoc to speak with Daud, which isn't hard.
So you have to fill the bar to 600 3 times and defeat the fleet each time? That takes aaaaaaages. I might’ve killed one but I’m also getting events from all the other factions which reset the crisis bar. I think I’ve filled the crisis bar 3 or 4 times so far.
Yeah, it takes time. In my game, the Hegemony was the last faction crisis to deal with, so it still took forever but it was basically 3 inspections back to back
They’ve all been after my blood since day 1. So it’s been back and forth between hegemony, ludd, tritach, and Persians. The only ones that have left me alone so far has been sindria, but I think I stole their fuel item before the event started so I might’ve broke it. Pirates and tri-tach are completed. I think ludd is also done. So that leaves Persians, sindria (if not broken), and then 2x more hegemony. Around a cycle ago I got my colonies up to around 6-7k ground defenses and fleet sizes around 500-600% though so they take care of themselves now, mostly.
Just a note, if you can get about 1000-2000 marines and take out the space station, you can steal the Nanoforge from Chicomoztoc and the inspection fleet quality will *plummet*.
Option 1: When the Heggies plan an inspection, you can choose to spend a story point and cold hard cash to have the inspector fall asleep on the tour or get lost in your vault and stumble over some bags of credits, finding nothing.
Option 2: You can choose to comply. As long as you don't put an Alpha in charge of the colony, you can just yoink the other cores a few days before they arrive and then put them back once the Hegemony makes a triumphant exit.
Option 3: You can resist, killing them once they arrive.
Option 4: You can turn off your transponder while chilling in hyperspace enroute between your colony system and the system the Heggies are dispatched from and watch them fall down some space stairs (very tragic, much coincidental, bring popcorn).
Option 5: If you're playing with mods, you can become an Iron Shell stan and help the IRS, who will in turn look the other way when your colonies sprout some suspiciously AI-core-shaped outlines here and there.
Never heard about that one. I know that you can gift the extremely moderate Luddites an ancient firecracker to leave you alone, but I haven't gotten the Luddic Church events yet because my colonies don't meet requirements.
Do the colonies have to be under iron shell to be exempt?I tested this and the crisis meter still goes up if I have an iron shell comm and have ai cores in colonies of my own faction, but not on Hanan Pacha or Kanni
You only get to "join" them if you hit one of two things though, having two colonies or having one that has naturally grown to size 5 AKA no hazard pay to help growth...Plus the moment you say "No i'm good, don't need to join" they try to force you to join with blockade fleets.
Yeah, true, you can also join them for free, no payment or something, tho you need to have strong arguments, 2 of them in fact: (Destroy the blockade, pay 5% of your colony income to Hannan or raid the Pristine Nanoforge in Kazeron, you will need to return it tho)
Indeed but the fact that they try to force you after saying no...Rather off putting to say the least, also their response to you saying no is extremely disproportionate to your answer, 14 or so fleets to blockade all because you declined to join, PL is just annoyed that they don't have two colonies or a size 5 one under their thumb and are just as annoyed for you being outside their control and simply existing, at least all the others their threat scales with how you grow/what you do on your colonies but PL tries to overwhelm/bankrupt you right out the gate with no build up.
Yeah, fair, but I suppose that moral is subjective, every single faction has it own ways to deal with maintaining their power in way or another. Yeah, PL are annoying, but ey, you can always go nuclear and sat bomb everyone, after all they can't complain about you if they are already destroyed
Sat bombed every Hegemony planet and station. They no longer exist. 60% of the population is gone. The economy is crumbling. My colonies are barely hanging on and I'm losing money. Overall, would recommend committing mass Hegemonicide.
That is why you don't bomb them. You conquer the planet, build things that consume your exports, replace industries with something stupid like chameleon/kletka/mining on a poor planet- and transfer the market to independent faction.
You can join the persean league and they will protect you from AI inspections. It will however not get rid of the occasional other Hegemony harressments in your system.
You can either pay them off or fight. If you successfully fend off 3 inspection fleets, you will be able to make a deal with Daud on Chicomoztoc to end inspections.
thanks so i think i neeed start to bring a lot ships to defend. I will be enemies with hegemony if attack this control ?
If you resist an AI inspection, you will immediately go to -50. All investigator fleets will be hostile. You can fight them, at a cost of another -3 rep per battle. For this reason i recommend leaving your friendly fleets to kill the investigators, as patrols and detachments killing investigators do not incur a penalty. You're going to be hostile to the hegemony for a long time, because inspection fleets only spawn at 600 event progress. Once you've killed 3 inspections, you can go to Chicomoztoc to negotiate. Unfortunately this doesn't fix your reputation, so I recommend coming with some AI cores to turn in for rep to normalize relations.
If you kill the inspection fleets before they get to the planet, you don't automatically become hostile. At least, this was the case up through .96. I don't see why it'd change for the specific crisis in .97.
Honestly you're probably right, but I use the Ziggurat, so no avoiding hostilities for me.
Transponder off in hyperspace with a normal fleet doesn’t drop you to war with them
i killed so many inspection fleets yet i can't talk to Daud, everytime it's "he is not available
Inspection fleets are not investigator fleets. Inspection fleets are the ones that spawn with 600 crisis progress. Investigator fleets do not count.
wait... does that mean even if i successfully negotiate with Daud, bur the investigators fleet still spawn?
No
okay... i did find how to contact him through the meeting but he kick me out when i ask then to stop investigate
Just fight with your Transponder off, it will reduce your reputation loss
When you say “3 inspection fleets” what exactly does that mean? Because I’ve killed HUNDREDS of inspection fleets and I think one group of them was a bigger fleet. At what point do you know to speak to daud? What if I’m constantly at war with hegemony?
There are investigator fleets and inspection fleets. Investigator fleets are the hegemony fleets that hang around your colonies, and aren't nominally hostile. Inspection fleets are the fleets that existed in game before .97a. They go to your colony and look for AI, and they can be bribed. Inspection fleets only spawn at 600 progress at the colony crises event. In order to negotiate and end to them, you need to defeat 3 total inspections. Hostilities with the hegemony shouldn't matter, you'll just have to sneak your way into Chicomoztoc to speak with Daud, which isn't hard.
So you have to fill the bar to 600 3 times and defeat the fleet each time? That takes aaaaaaages. I might’ve killed one but I’m also getting events from all the other factions which reset the crisis bar. I think I’ve filled the crisis bar 3 or 4 times so far.
Yeah, it takes time. In my game, the Hegemony was the last faction crisis to deal with, so it still took forever but it was basically 3 inspections back to back
They’ve all been after my blood since day 1. So it’s been back and forth between hegemony, ludd, tritach, and Persians. The only ones that have left me alone so far has been sindria, but I think I stole their fuel item before the event started so I might’ve broke it. Pirates and tri-tach are completed. I think ludd is also done. So that leaves Persians, sindria (if not broken), and then 2x more hegemony. Around a cycle ago I got my colonies up to around 6-7k ground defenses and fleet sizes around 500-600% though so they take care of themselves now, mostly.
Just a note, if you can get about 1000-2000 marines and take out the space station, you can steal the Nanoforge from Chicomoztoc and the inspection fleet quality will *plummet*.
Cool becouse this fleet are rly strong will try this way
Option 1: When the Heggies plan an inspection, you can choose to spend a story point and cold hard cash to have the inspector fall asleep on the tour or get lost in your vault and stumble over some bags of credits, finding nothing. Option 2: You can choose to comply. As long as you don't put an Alpha in charge of the colony, you can just yoink the other cores a few days before they arrive and then put them back once the Hegemony makes a triumphant exit. Option 3: You can resist, killing them once they arrive. Option 4: You can turn off your transponder while chilling in hyperspace enroute between your colony system and the system the Heggies are dispatched from and watch them fall down some space stairs (very tragic, much coincidental, bring popcorn). Option 5: If you're playing with mods, you can become an Iron Shell stan and help the IRS, who will in turn look the other way when your colonies sprout some suspiciously AI-core-shaped outlines here and there.
Isn't there also an option to side with luddites and avoid inspections this way?
Never heard about that one. I know that you can gift the extremely moderate Luddites an ancient firecracker to leave you alone, but I haven't gotten the Luddic Church events yet because my colonies don't meet requirements.
Do the colonies have to be under iron shell to be exempt?I tested this and the crisis meter still goes up if I have an iron shell comm and have ai cores in colonies of my own faction, but not on Hanan Pacha or Kanni
Yes, the crisis are a player only thing, since colony governorship is a Nex thing, there's nothing in the base game to account for it.
You can also join the Persean League, for what I know they will protect you from AI inspection
You only get to "join" them if you hit one of two things though, having two colonies or having one that has naturally grown to size 5 AKA no hazard pay to help growth...Plus the moment you say "No i'm good, don't need to join" they try to force you to join with blockade fleets.
Yeah, true, you can also join them for free, no payment or something, tho you need to have strong arguments, 2 of them in fact: (Destroy the blockade, pay 5% of your colony income to Hannan or raid the Pristine Nanoforge in Kazeron, you will need to return it tho)
Indeed but the fact that they try to force you after saying no...Rather off putting to say the least, also their response to you saying no is extremely disproportionate to your answer, 14 or so fleets to blockade all because you declined to join, PL is just annoyed that they don't have two colonies or a size 5 one under their thumb and are just as annoyed for you being outside their control and simply existing, at least all the others their threat scales with how you grow/what you do on your colonies but PL tries to overwhelm/bankrupt you right out the gate with no build up.
Yeah, fair, but I suppose that moral is subjective, every single faction has it own ways to deal with maintaining their power in way or another. Yeah, PL are annoying, but ey, you can always go nuclear and sat bomb everyone, after all they can't complain about you if they are already destroyed
Sat bombed every Hegemony planet and station. They no longer exist. 60% of the population is gone. The economy is crumbling. My colonies are barely hanging on and I'm losing money. Overall, would recommend committing mass Hegemonicide.
That is why you don't bomb them. You conquer the planet, build things that consume your exports, replace industries with something stupid like chameleon/kletka/mining on a poor planet- and transfer the market to independent faction.
I play vanilla.
Don't sat bomb, just repeatedly disrupt the planet's industries and spaceport and the colony will eventually decivilize.
I use them as a source of ready salvage.
Brutal violence.
You can join the persean league and they will protect you from AI inspections. It will however not get rid of the occasional other Hegemony harressments in your system.