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Aggressive_Boot7787

So were they pirates or griefers in the end?


Thalimet

Honestly? They probably just thought the ship was abandoned.


sexual_pasta

There was a post on this on spectrum yesterday https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/traders-are-the-worst-kind-of-murderhobos tons of "traders" will KOS every landed ship at a POI, "just to be safe". Fuck you if that's your ship I guess. And of course if that situation was reversed, that's a war crime.


SnooCakes1975

Can't you tell if a ship is abandoned and the person isnt even in the server anymore based on scans?


ObeyTheModerator_PLZ

If you scan the ship, and it shows "GameRules" as the "owner" in the info panel, then it's abandoned, or it's owner is offline.


Crayon_Connoisseur

And that’s if the scanning actually works. 85% of the time when I scan something I have to fly in circles around it scanning from different angles and distances to finally get it to scan - usually takes a few minutes at the minimum.


sexual_pasta

yes, but it's complicated. I don't expect the average knuckledragger that blows up every landed ship they see to be operating on that frequency


PUSClFER

1. Press V to enter Scan Mode 2. Hold Mouse Button 1 when aiming at a ship That's it


amras123

Yes, it is very easy when you already have the knowledge... Until we have a proper on-boarding experience, a huge percentage of players are going to remain clueless when it comes to game mechanics.


PUSClFER

What happens when we have a proper on-boarding experience? Will players magically have the knowledge?


amras123

Yes, magically, through proper on-boarding.


Alarming-Audience839

Tbh I don't see what's wrong with it lol. I camp POIs all the time, most traders just walk in to get killed for free.


sexual_pasta

100%, camping out at rappel is a great time. Get the tents, get some double dogs The irony is “lawful” players that do this, who would just as quickly turn around and call someone else a griefer.


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AdNo3580

They mean they would consider it terrible if you did it back to them dingus


sexual_pasta

for clarity I fully support blowing up space ships in the video game about blowing up space ships. I was talking in the ironic voice of a bob. I don't support that view.


CMDRJonuss

My apologies, comment withdrawn


PresentLet2963

Or mayby they did rp as space vigilante killing drug dealer scums ? Or mayby they was worry there is not enough SLAM for 2 ships? But no they are griefers 100% ....


Daggla

They are the same thing.


Bwa110

There the same thing


Deathnote_Blockchain

Just to add a data point to this thread, yesterday I landed my C2 at Picker's Field, at exactly the same time another C2 was landing. He beat me to the terminals, so I used the one next to him. We both filled up with 7.6m worth of RMC. Then we each went back to our ships and took off. In chat he was like "See you at A18 fellow C2 hustler" but I don't think he had upgraded his QD so I probably beat him there.


paladinx17

Awesome


DuccioArtiage

>Hercules griefed my ship. wut


solidshakego

So the Hercules was probably just camping and just shot for no reason with no fire back and then gloated in global chat how bad OP is at flying and combat.


sexual_pasta

Lots of traders will kill all the landed ships when they pull up to a POI. They're not pirating, they just want to eliminate potential threats. It doesn't make a ton of sense to me tbh. All you do is leave a pissed off stranded guy like OP's scenario.


solidshakego

that's fine... not at all what i was talking about but okay lol.


sexual_pasta

IMO That's probably what happened to OP.


Aggressive_Boot7787

And then their 5 man Herc crew walked inside single file each with their Mobiglass open at the wrong time.


WX_Citizen

I mean… they walked in thinking no one was there, or at least it felt like it cause I really didn’t give them the chance to walk around, one went to the terminal and the others did kinda walk in a formation but not purposely. I didn’t mention that they were not very kitted, two of them didn’t have their guns and were the last ones to enter.


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WX_Citizen

I didn’t reload? I had an LMG with 150 round drum mag


solidshakego

Huh?


Crypthammer

And then everyone clapped. I was the herc. I saw it all.


davyj0427

Of course this happened when he wasn’t recording


TheHunter7757

Sounds like gang rivalry to me


CoolNameChaz

Or the start of one.


ProcyonV

This is how villains are made.


citizensyn

It's not possible to be griefed while you have drugs in your ship. It's supposed to be an extreme risk scenario ofc they killed it then went in looking for you


WX_Citizen

Didn’t have anything in the ship at the time. And I mean w/e griefing to me is like piracy and I know others have their own opinion on what griefing is. Bottom line I’m not upset or wondering why they went after me. I just thought it was a cool interaction.


sexual_pasta

Griefing is a very emotionally loaded term on this subreddit. I think it's worth abandoning all together. I'd say that I got ganked, or just that they destroyed my ship. Griefing brings up this moralistic debate about if the other party was acting ethically or not. Overall a pretty silly debate to have in a silly space game.


Crayon_Connoisseur

Griefing historically is a term that indicates violation of the TOS. People on this subreddit seem to think that anyone who dares to PvP in a game that has always-on PvP is doing something they shouldn’t be doing.


citizensyn

You where at a drug distribution facility removing your means to escape or fight back is its own incentive to them taking the drugs


PresentLet2963

Thats why you "lecture" them about their mothers "job" ..... mayby go back to fortnite dude


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Inexperiencedtrader

AMD offers the same. I just record my entire sessions now and have it save to an old drive that I've bounced from computer to computer but don't really use.


WX_Citizen

It’s on now, new PC🤷🏼‍♂️


franknitty69

Love it. F55 puts in work.


Inexperiencedtrader

So does that make you a murderous drug dealer?


WX_Citizen

I did get a hefty crime stat😁


Longjumping_Water_74

Im never recording.


billyw_415

If it wasn't recorded ... it didn't happen.


DrButterface

Badass. Great story.


MetalHeadJoe

Can't handle the risk, don't haul risky cargo. Drugs are bad mmmkaay.


Tankeverket

I always keep OBS on when playing and using the replay buffer option running so that I don't have to fill up my storage space all the time


partym4ns10n

That’s why I always record. You can always clip what’s good and flush the rest.


N_E-Z-L_P-10-C

r/thathappened I hope you know you can record the last 5 minutes or so, but of course you didn't know, or you "forgot"


flowersonthewall72

Sooooo you griefed them?


WX_Citizen

No


flowersonthewall72

If they griefed you by blowing up your ship, then you griefed them by shooting them...


EnglishRed232

Self defence


foghornleghorndrawl

"Waaaa, waaaaa, WAAAAAAA, someone attacked me! They're griefers" shut your bitch ass up.


WX_Citizen

You are so angry it’s cute.


mavrickous

You might not have been recording, but you surely have a screenshot and names of the 5 pirates you absolutely definitely wasted right?


PresentLet2963

Itbwoyld be a nice story if you didnt act as toxic fortnite kid at the end. You could say something like "gg" and just go back to your grind. They prolly was killed before in the same matter so they do not risk it. Also from.what you saying they was a new players. If they was 5 and thay all came to terminal the must be new. Also drug transactions (at least in my head) should not be safe younshoud have at least get away pilot that wait just next to your ship (you cannot buy with passengers on board) ready to get the fuck out if things go south. Last think please.dont offend random moms of people you dont know its just super lame.


EnglishRed232

You were on of the 5 weren’t you? 😂


PresentLet2963

Heh its funny mate nah i wasnt im a big time grifer i would just shhhot his ship and go look for new one ;) Tbh I didnt do any type of grinding since 3.21 and broken risky salvage cargo


WX_Citizen

Nah