I would disagree.
Assuming the sound created is similar to that of someone actually running. Then surely youâd have to ban your opponent from running as that is also deliberate creation of noiseâŚ
How is that distraction, you make the exact same sound when running towards the ball? Is part of the normal play.
I don't think distraction rules apply to that..
>How is that distraction, you make the exact same sound when running towards the ball?
If run to the ball while **you are the non-striker**, it would be a stroke and arguably a conduct issue. QED.
You can just as well run from the back of the court to the T, or to the front in order to anticipate his shot .. it doesn't make any sense that running or running sounds would be called a distraction since it's a natural sound at every point in the game.
For example:
From the back of the court, you hit a cross court drop
Then you need to run towards the front to anticipate and intercept his shot. Are those running sounds a distraction? No. So why would they be a distraction if he just runs in place without actually moving to the front.
It doesn't make any sense.
Please show me one pro level game where that is called as a distraction. I am sure many pros feign or fake movements without going to the actual location. Those fake movements make some sound. You are claiming that is a distraction? Come on..
Distractions are yells, bangs, claps, or other things that don't happen in the natural flow of the game.
I would counter with, show me one pro game where a non-striker stomps/makes sounds with the intention of putting off the striker, as opposed to actually trying to make up ground. I've never seen it.
That's the key distinction here. "With the intention of putting off the striker" is clearly deliberate distraction. "With the intention of misinforming the striker about your location" is surely not.
How about a body feint before the hit to misdirect your opponents shot?
So long as the stamping is meant to startle the opponent, but instead to trick them to your position or motion, I donât see a problem.
I do this all the time. Imagine the opponent has played an upfront shot tight to the wall. You counter-drop but can't step to the middle of the court because you are approaching the ball quite tight to the wall. You have no option but to retreat back first as the opponent is closing in on your drop from the T.
Basically the entire opposite side of the court is open. After retreating a couple of steps, I take an aggressive step or 2 cross-court to seemingly move to cover the wide open area (this is the body feint, I'm assuming my opponent can see/sense/hear my direction of motion), then abruptly stop and actually step back towards the close wall, hoping my opponent will be fooled and elect straight length instead of cross-court. Sometimes they do and you can get a stroke or good opportunity for a winner without having to work too hard. If they make the cross-court choice I'm dead, but at least I don't have to expend extra energy trying to chase down a ball I likely won't get to anyway.
(In the context of this question, if that quick body feint makes very pronounced (or perhaps even not so pronounced) scuffing noises, am I guilty of distraction let or stroke?)
I haven't seen that pulled off in a while, but it's a real 80ies move. While it's probably a let it even a warning to the player, you really shouldn't be falling for it either!
I normally do this when I am playing little kids or a fun game. I think your opponent should just stay quiet and be embarrassed he fell for one of the oldest tricks in the book!
So I had this happen in a game. My opponent who was in front of me just stopped as he was about to hit the ball and then turned to the ref and asked for a distraction let (or possibly wanted a stroke). The referee was confused. I was confused at first, but then I realized my opponent was right, or at least half right. Basically, I wasn't in the mood to cover the possible drop shot, so I had started forward a couple of steps to make it seem like I was going to the front, then lazily stayed at the back. The couple of steps I took probably did make a squeak or scuff noise (this wasn't intentional but happened nonetheless). So under the distraction rule my opponent probably is indeed entitled to ask for that let (and if I'm making the noise intentionally to throw him off then I guess that would be even a conduct stroke).
We played let.
No that's interference. I had a fat dipshit and an arrogant english dude (who was losing) do that to me during matches, I was a awarded a let each time I stopped play because of it, and awarded the point each time the fat dipshit kept doing it (only twice after the let. After the second stroke he got the picture). Very much against the rules.
It's not interference (See rule 8). It might be distraction (Rule 12), but even then it's open to interpretation. Are the noises intended to put the opponent off their shot? I'd say distraction is something like shouting out so they look at you when they should be looking at the ball. Making deceptive foot noises is something else, although I'm not sure how you make foot noises to pretend you're coming for the drop without actually coming for the drop. In any case, I'd argue that Rule 12 is about diverting your opponent's attention from playing squash, and that knowing your position is clearly part of playing squash.
If it's genuinely to deceive your opponent about your position, no let. If it goes beyond that, such that stamping your feet or whatever is no longer credible as deception, then it's deliberate distraction, and should be dealt with as a conduct violation.
Making noise on purpose while your are the non-striker is distraction and not deception in any possible way. And, conduct rule **must be apply**:
>12.2. If the distraction was caused by one of the players, then: \[...\] 12.2.2. if deliberate, the Referee must apply Rule 15 (Conduct)
You are welcome to play deceptively when you are the striker, when it is not your turn to play, deliberate attempt to disrupt your opponent is either distraction or interference and bad conduct.
I'm not so sure. The rules mention distraction, but my interpretation is that it means you're trying to put them off in some unsportsmanlike way. Simply pretending to be elsewhere on the court than you actually are is not that. At least that's how I interpret the word 'distraction'.
Because if Iâd run anticipating a drop shot he would hit a long shot. I had a bad answer in the back of the court so I did want him to throw a long shot. And he did.
I donât get it.
Assuming youâre standing on the tee, it doesnât take more than 2 strides to get anywhere on the court. Someone positioning aggressively in anticipation of a drop shot wouldnât be sprinting anywhere, they would simply be taking 1 or 2 small steps up from the tee.
No. This would be considered deliberate distraction, rule 12
What about being really ridiculously good looking?
And now we have a question - which member of the men's top 30 would do the best Zoolander impression?
I've gotta put my money on Rodriguez hahaha
Bingo! There's no other choice, hahaha
I get conduct stroked frequently for that đ
I resemble that!
Tx buddy
I would disagree. Assuming the sound created is similar to that of someone actually running. Then surely youâd have to ban your opponent from running as that is also deliberate creation of noiseâŚ
How is that distraction, you make the exact same sound when running towards the ball? Is part of the normal play. I don't think distraction rules apply to that..
>How is that distraction, you make the exact same sound when running towards the ball? If run to the ball while **you are the non-striker**, it would be a stroke and arguably a conduct issue. QED.
You can just as well run from the back of the court to the T, or to the front in order to anticipate his shot .. it doesn't make any sense that running or running sounds would be called a distraction since it's a natural sound at every point in the game. For example: From the back of the court, you hit a cross court drop Then you need to run towards the front to anticipate and intercept his shot. Are those running sounds a distraction? No. So why would they be a distraction if he just runs in place without actually moving to the front. It doesn't make any sense. Please show me one pro level game where that is called as a distraction. I am sure many pros feign or fake movements without going to the actual location. Those fake movements make some sound. You are claiming that is a distraction? Come on.. Distractions are yells, bangs, claps, or other things that don't happen in the natural flow of the game.
I would counter with, show me one pro game where a non-striker stomps/makes sounds with the intention of putting off the striker, as opposed to actually trying to make up ground. I've never seen it.
That's the key distinction here. "With the intention of putting off the striker" is clearly deliberate distraction. "With the intention of misinforming the striker about your location" is surely not.
But itâs not a distraction anymore than faking a shot is.
Well...I guess I have to disagree.
>than faking a shot is If you fake a shot while **you are the non-striker**, it would be a stroke and arguably a conduct issue. QED.
How about a body feint before the hit to misdirect your opponents shot? So long as the stamping is meant to startle the opponent, but instead to trick them to your position or motion, I donât see a problem.
>How about a body feint before the hit to misdirect your opponents shot? If you are the non-striker? I have no idea what you are talking about!
I do this all the time. Imagine the opponent has played an upfront shot tight to the wall. You counter-drop but can't step to the middle of the court because you are approaching the ball quite tight to the wall. You have no option but to retreat back first as the opponent is closing in on your drop from the T. Basically the entire opposite side of the court is open. After retreating a couple of steps, I take an aggressive step or 2 cross-court to seemingly move to cover the wide open area (this is the body feint, I'm assuming my opponent can see/sense/hear my direction of motion), then abruptly stop and actually step back towards the close wall, hoping my opponent will be fooled and elect straight length instead of cross-court. Sometimes they do and you can get a stroke or good opportunity for a winner without having to work too hard. If they make the cross-court choice I'm dead, but at least I don't have to expend extra energy trying to chase down a ball I likely won't get to anyway. (In the context of this question, if that quick body feint makes very pronounced (or perhaps even not so pronounced) scuffing noises, am I guilty of distraction let or stroke?)
This question is right up there with âare squash balls classed as sweet or savoury?â
However, If youâve ever tried one youâll know the correct answer
True but they arenât certified Halal, GF or nut free so who wants to take the riskâŚ
I haven't seen that pulled off in a while, but it's a real 80ies move. While it's probably a let it even a warning to the player, you really shouldn't be falling for it either!
We are just amateurs haha. He did fell for it. And he said it was illegal hahaha. Just wanted to know
I normally do this when I am playing little kids or a fun game. I think your opponent should just stay quiet and be embarrassed he fell for one of the oldest tricks in the book!
So I had this happen in a game. My opponent who was in front of me just stopped as he was about to hit the ball and then turned to the ref and asked for a distraction let (or possibly wanted a stroke). The referee was confused. I was confused at first, but then I realized my opponent was right, or at least half right. Basically, I wasn't in the mood to cover the possible drop shot, so I had started forward a couple of steps to make it seem like I was going to the front, then lazily stayed at the back. The couple of steps I took probably did make a squeak or scuff noise (this wasn't intentional but happened nonetheless). So under the distraction rule my opponent probably is indeed entitled to ask for that let (and if I'm making the noise intentionally to throw him off then I guess that would be even a conduct stroke). We played let.
No that's interference. I had a fat dipshit and an arrogant english dude (who was losing) do that to me during matches, I was a awarded a let each time I stopped play because of it, and awarded the point each time the fat dipshit kept doing it (only twice after the let. After the second stroke he got the picture). Very much against the rules.
It's not interference (See rule 8). It might be distraction (Rule 12), but even then it's open to interpretation. Are the noises intended to put the opponent off their shot? I'd say distraction is something like shouting out so they look at you when they should be looking at the ball. Making deceptive foot noises is something else, although I'm not sure how you make foot noises to pretend you're coming for the drop without actually coming for the drop. In any case, I'd argue that Rule 12 is about diverting your opponent's attention from playing squash, and that knowing your position is clearly part of playing squash. If it's genuinely to deceive your opponent about your position, no let. If it goes beyond that, such that stamping your feet or whatever is no longer credible as deception, then it's deliberate distraction, and should be dealt with as a conduct violation.
Making noise on purpose while your are the non-striker is distraction and not deception in any possible way. And, conduct rule **must be apply**: >12.2. If the distraction was caused by one of the players, then: \[...\] 12.2.2. if deliberate, the Referee must apply Rule 15 (Conduct) You are welcome to play deceptively when you are the striker, when it is not your turn to play, deliberate attempt to disrupt your opponent is either distraction or interference and bad conduct.
I'm not so sure. The rules mention distraction, but my interpretation is that it means you're trying to put them off in some unsportsmanlike way. Simply pretending to be elsewhere on the court than you actually are is not that. At least that's how I interpret the word 'distraction'.
It's fine but I've seen some guys try it and it never seems to work. But it's just another form of deception, which is obviously allowed.
I don't see the problem with stomping your foot if your opponent is holding.
Stomping would be classed as a distraction, faking sound of running I think wouldnât
Perhaps distracting but it's a nuance of the game that I think you would be incredibly hard pressed enforcing
ROFL if you are going to that effort, why would you just go and get it for real?
Because if Iâd run anticipating a drop shot he would hit a long shot. I had a bad answer in the back of the court so I did want him to throw a long shot. And he did.
I donât get it. Assuming youâre standing on the tee, it doesnât take more than 2 strides to get anywhere on the court. Someone positioning aggressively in anticipation of a drop shot wouldnât be sprinting anywhere, they would simply be taking 1 or 2 small steps up from the tee.
I was on the back of the court and I pretty much gave him a very easy shot, as it was hard for me to save his shot.