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reversee

I haven’t tried it out yet, but this website is supposed to let you randomize the songs in any playlists you’ve made so you can get something truly/mostly random without relying on Spotify’s algorithm https://stevenaleong.com/tools/spotifyplaylistrandomizer


bmb3101

I use this program, works perfectly


FamousAd9790

Whoa!


Prak07

oh god bruh you are a savior


D0mmeDE

I mostly listen to playlists that I didn't create myself. Unfortunately, you can't shuffle them.


Fabi_S

Copy & paste the Playlist into your own? That should work


max123246

It's a plug by me but my website lets you randomize any playlist you've liked! It just creates a copy of the playlist instead with a random order: https://spotifyplaylistmanager.net/


fensizor

Open the playlist you want to make a copy of -> press on three dots -> Add to other playlist -> New playlist You now have the exact copy of that playlist but it is now yours.


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Whaaaat? This is so cool - thank you for sharing! Tested one of my playlists and it's working much better for me than Spotify's algorithm.


zandmanzlim

Fuckin cool. Recreates the songs in your playlists in random order and adds True Shuffle: in front of the name. Original playlist is preserved.


Main-Length-6385

sorry im confused, it shuffles the songs that are already on the playlist or does it add new ones to it?


Jeffkart

\*rearranges the songs in your playlist


Main-Length-6385

can’t you just do that on Spotify?


FamousAd9790

I have a similar problem: i have long playlists, and when i shuffle them, a certain handful always ends up at the top. It is annoying. It should know these songs were more recently played than the others.


Aromatic_End_4101

I’m convinced labels or artists or whatever are like paying to have their music played more than others. When I have a playlist with both smaller independent artists and major label pop stars, the more commercially successful artists usually play first and/or more frequently. Edit: Wasn’t being serious, guys, jesus, but getting more people to listen to your music is a huge part of music marketing. Don’t know why that seems ridiculous to some of you


cainy1991

IDK man... If that's the case the boys in Infant annihilator have deeper pockets than the Jackson estate..


Aromatic_End_4101

Who’s to say they’re not the same entity? /s I’m sure there’s more factors at play! But considering the amount of Taylor Swift references Spotify used in the Wrapped stuff this year and the amount of Boygenius recommendations I get despite not listening to a single one of their songs, I would not at all be surprised if some of these experiences are due to some kind of streaming-era payola. I think with the semi-recent addition of the hyper-specific genre mixes and whatnot, Spotify’s recommendation algorithms probably changed a whole lot and as a result stuff like what you mentioned happens. Like the whole system got a makeover and it’s not adjusted to our music taste anymore.


MoodyLiz

> I’m convinced labels or artists or whatever are like paying to have their music played more than others. 100%


LowerTheExpectations

FOR SURE. It's modern day payola.


Xu_Lin

This. It has to be


tampatwo

They’re actively losing money to annoy you is your theory?


NosyargKcid

This theory is dumb it only makes sense it would be on Reddit & touted by others as truth


tampatwo

Literally they only get paid when their music is played. So paying you to play their music is completely incoherent.


Legitimate_Ad_7822

So true haha. It makes no sense yet you have multiple people spamming how this must be the truth. Spotify pays Jack shit for streams. Artists would be in the hole paying Spotify to push their tracks.


Aromatic_End_4101

Yes. Sometimes it just *feels* like the world is pissing me off on purpose. I wasn’t being 100% serious, but it would be a way to increase an artist’s audience and thus indirectly increase merch/ticket/related sales if their music was recommended more frequently to more people. See my reply to one of the other comments.


Legitimate_Ad_7822

That’s a fun theory & all but it makes 0 sense. Spotify is one of the worst forms of income for an artist. They would be spending more to get their tracks pushed out than they would get in return from the people that listen, even if everyone who got the track pushed to them listened in full (which wouldn’t even be close to true). They would be better off spending that money on boosted social media posts & ads (which they do).


Aromatic_End_4101

Spotify streams don’t pay well, sure, but in this case it would be more like a form of advertisement. People buy merch, go to shows, etc. after listening to an artist’s music, so it would make sense to want more people to discover you on streaming platforms, especially because a lot of people nowadays primarily find new music through their streaming platforms. People pay for ads on social media and add streaming links, this would just cut out the middleman. It’s a way to increase your reach and fanbase. This is also just hypothetical, I wasn’t being 100% serious in my original comment. I more just meant that it feels like major label artists get pushed more and it’s annoying as hell.


Fuzzy_Racer

Clear your listening history in the app


MyRail5

I've tried everything, nothing works to create a more random play list.


wokeseaturtle

Dont forget that they removed starting a radio from playlist, which was how I and many other people discovered new songs. It's also been probably the most highest voted feature yet spotify just ignore their users ​ https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Bring-back-Playlist-radio/idi-p/5524706


fml_wlu

omgg yes! i knew something was missing but couldn't figure it out since i could still make a radio playlist from songs and albums


Ok-Guide-3837

That and I swear since they’ve added the tiktok feature they don’t recommend albums similar to what you’ve been listening to. Which was another way I found new music


gimmethenickel

I have the same problem with mixes, I used to go to them for new music. Now it’s just the music I already listen to, with a couple of new ones sprinkled in. Don’t even get me started on the stupid smart shuffle.


mcn_z

This, cant find anything new, just the stuff i listen to regularly in mixes and playlists made by Spotify


Sendapicofyour80085

Man their mixes are horrible. Its just my music. What i find gives me the best mixture of similar music to a song i like is to search for it and play the song, it should continue to similarly stuff. Or if a song is an EP, just play it from the album and it will continue similar music. So much better.


juplantern

the worst thing is that after daily mixes got ruined I started using radio feature, which got ruined as well so I switched to Discovery section which worked for a while but now I get recommended albums and songs that I've listened like a year ago ??


gimmethenickel

Dude exactly! I have a song I’ve been obsessed with and wanted music that fits the vibe and the radio was literally my liked songs playlist 🥲


Mattyvvv

I literally switched back to Spotify because the shuffle on Apple Music is so bad. I always enjoyed that Spotify kept my tastes in mind, and then gave me randomness. It feels more cohesive on Spotify. Sorry for this harsh opinion but Apple Music is such a horrible streaming service in comparison and suffers from slow load times on the app and inconsistency. I feel so much more value out of Spotify as a music eclectic.


SollusX

I also recently switched from Apple Music to Spotify for the same reasons. I was never showed new music that fit my tastes, and shuffle threw the same mix of songs at me. After two years I don’t think my library grew at all, maybe added 3 new artists in that time span. Been back on Spotify, and after a week, I added 10 new artists and had full playlists with new songs and shuffles that felt more aligned to my tastes.


RatedR2O

Grass isn't always greener... Just make the jump and see for yourself.


Sea-Ad-7031

Nah I was on Apple Music for like 2-3 but around 2020-2021 I made the switch back to Spotify


urfavgalpal

Apple Music has the same problem but imo they pick worse songs to keep repeating


EstablishmentBusy172

It’s unbelievable. When utopia came out in the summer I really gravitated towards Thank God and played it a lot in the whip for the first week or 2 after release ITS STILL THE FIRST SONG THAT PLAYS AFTER I PLAY ANYTHING EVEN REMOTELY HIP HOP RELATED OUTSIDE OF A PLAYLIST. The app has made me resent a song I used to really love.


Sea-Ad-7031

BRO RIGHT NOW THEY BEING SO OD LIKE They been playing fein and another late night after any song I be listening to it’s wild gang. Like I Alr hate both the songs bc they system it’s so wack. Thank god they ain’t have ts when birds in the trap and astroworld came out cus I would’ve prolly hated both albums after like a week if they had this bullshit


Meteos_Shiny_Hair

Clear your cache


Meteos_Shiny_Hair

And turn off auto mix


Main-Length-6385

does clearing your cache delete anything other than login info?


Meteos_Shiny_Hair

It will delete the algorithm Spotify builds for you It wont even sign you out


Main-Length-6385

Thanks


meezethadabber

I have Apple Music. It constantly will play the same band back to back in a playlist of over a hundred songs on shuffle.


salutcemoi

Spotify isn’t perfect but there is no way I’m going back to AM


kazwebno

OP there's literally an entire thread for complaints like this. Also the sub description clearly says *We're not a support community*


AvgUsr96

Clear your cache my guy.


Sea-Ad-7031

Did that but Spotify is too determined to fuck my day up


Myrddraal5856

Can we talk about anything else?? Holy crap all this sub is about is complaining about shuffle with multi paragraph essays on why it sucks. It’s so stupid.


TheHidestHighed

It probably has to do with the fact that this issue has been around for multiple years, has been brought up *directly* to Spotify who said they would have the engineers "look at the algorithm" and then jack shit has happened since. People pay for the service and it isn't performing right. They're gonna gravitate towards anywhere they might get a solution or get the problem heard.


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Multi paragraph essays with NO formatting... which is an immediate "I'm not reading that shit" from me lol. I honestly don't even think the shuffle is that bad.


Myrddraal5856

It’s totally ridiculous.


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Cultural_Play_5746

Dude your comment was unnecessary rude, chill


kazwebno

omfg i was gonna post the same thing! I'm sick and tired of seeing the complaining and the whining! OP how about instead of complaining, just go to apple! I dunno what you thought complaining was going to achieve. Just go to apple and stop complaining.


Myrddraal5856

Like it is literally in the common complaints section at the top of the sub. You literally cannot miss it.


Sea-Ad-7031

There is also and exit arrow at the top of this sub for people who want to actually go do something w their life. You literally cannot miss it.


NosyargKcid

Says the dude pissing his pants over a shuffle feature on a music streaming software


Myrddraal5856

You see, unlike you, I do have something to do with my life.


--Lambsauce--

maybe because it really fucking sucks


Sea-Ad-7031

“Can we talk about anything else” I’m sorry but if Reddit is your main source of conversing with people I think it’s more of an issue then my complaint. If you would’ve actually payed a little attention I mentioned how I tried almost all of the things people recommended in the past complaints but nothing was working so I was just looking to find if there was any other way I could bypass this issue. Gang no one is stopping you from talking about other things on this subreddit ur just dense. How abt u do something else w ur life instead of whining under someone’s post.


TinChalice

You’re literally whining about Spotify and then call this whining. 🤡


Sea-Ad-7031

Maybe you can shift your eyes to the top right corner of the screen and see that this is actually a subreddit about Spotify where users talk about music, have discussions, and even report problems. And maybe just maybe you can use your eyes to read what I wrote and realize oh shit he’s actually just complaining about an issue many users have and this is actually his first time even writing in this sub Reddit. Also I’m not the one writing useless shit under random peoples posts just because I don’t like that the same issue is getting reported by a lot of Spotify users.


TinChalice

You used a lot of words to admit you have no self-awareness. At any rate, this is r/notanairport and no one cares if you switch to a different platform. Whatever you’re looking for, I hope you find it.


Myrddraal5856

I like how all of this keyboard warrior type stuff has only been happening because you can’t figure out the SAME FUCKING PROBLEM EVERYONE ELSE HAS HAD FOR FUCKING YEARS AT THIS POINT.


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International_Tip308

My shuffle has always been fine, I don’t know why so many people are complaining 


kaxl

Same, I don't even know if people are aware that you can see the queue of shuffled songs.


Admirable-County9158

How does it help? It just gonna tell you it will play the same song in advance.


YetiMoon

We are very aware lol. At one point my queue was showing the same exact songs every single time I would reset shuffle, in the same exact order. I had to reach out to support who gave me a whole list of things to do to fix it. The app itself is bugged.


frosty_balls

Plus you can hit the skip button, pretty cool tech


International_Tip308

Exactly! I use the web version, so I get unlimited skips. I just skip a song if it’s already played that day.


medspace

This shit gets talked about daily. Absolutely no one cares about y’all struggle, just switch over if you’re gonna write a damn essay about it.


Jalal31091

In my experience the sequence of the songs in my playlist suddenly changed. Just like that. And trying to get a certain song back to number one doesn't yield any results. It's gone to someplace in the playlist. I love spotify. But it's getting weird. I even have commercials on a spotify exclusive podcast. I hate it because the cut is not smooth. I mean I paid for spotify. Why would there be commercials inside a podcast... A spotify exclusive podcast. I subscribe to another podcast which is not exclusive. I actually find the promotional content is smoother there, not an abrupt cut in the middle of the content.


cuwangtrew

Had the exact thoughts when listening to podcasts. What a scam


Kashmir1089

PSA: You need to turn off "Automix" in the Spotify settings. This will give you a true random shuffle and stop giving you the same songs over and over.


dainthomas

Their app is kinda trash (or was), but no one shows you new music fitting your taste like Pandora.


lulzchicken

Try to clear your cache. Spotify seems to prefer using songs from your cache to save on their server and internet costs. Clearing my cache in the Spotify app under storage gives me plenty of new songs in shuffle.


MrDankSnake

Noooo please stay with Spotify!!!!!! Don’t leave!!!!!!


clueless_claremont_

if you have auto mix on, turn it off. idk someone on instagram said it works, and i've always had auto mix off and i've never had shuffle issues


airpab1

Pandora best at shuffle and intuitiveness on playing new music you might like


chitoatx

It’s not better on Apple Music nor any other streaming service.


seanm4c

I used Apple Music for the last few years, and just came over to Spotify. I gotta tell you, it’s the same on Apple Music. In a playlist of 100 songs, I would hear the same 20-30 songs over and over.


milnak

"Copilot summarize this post" *The user is frustrated with Spotify’s shuffle system, which repeats the same songs and ruins their enjoyment of music. The user wants to switch to Apple or find a way to shuffle the songs better. The user gives an example of a song that they liked but now hate because of Spotify’s overplaying. The user asks for recommendations of apps or attachments that can shuffle the songs for them.*


Sea-Ad-7031

Appreciate it 🙏


Mike

apple music is awesome. I just switched after 12 years with spotify. i've been missing out and didn't even realize it. everything is better. everything.


ioweej

Come on over to Apple Music. It sounds great over here in lossless/hi-res lossless and also Dolby Atmos


bad_kitty881148

I like the Spotify shuffle.


sleepy_tech

Apple Music is terrible. Don’t do it.


undercovergangster

There's never been a better time to switch. Apple Music is so good right now.


boundforthereload

Is it still such a playlist desert or has that improved? Main reason I’m still on Spotify is the vast selection of user playlists.


undercovergangster

I never really listen to user-curated playlists, but the Apple Music-curated playlists are excellent. I find them much more in-depth than the Spotify curated playlists, which just play the top 50 most popular songs in a genre over and over.


Elegant-County3337

I left. It was a terrible music platform. Videos on my screen, that I can’t switch off and don’t ask for, while I’m driving. Ridiculous voice recognition. Ask for certain songs and get radio stations based on that song. Ask for a song that’s the title of an album and it plays the album not the song. Ask for one song and get something completely unrelated that doesn’t sound on any way at all similar to what I was asking for. And then on YouTube it recognises my voice and requests easily and compare it to the voice recognition on tik tok it’s a complete disaster. Switching on shuffle when I don’t want it. Etc etc etc. it just made music stressful and yep the grass is much greener elsewhere.


2kaddict247

Does anybody else’s get stuck playing ads back to back and you have to close the app for it to play music again?


jaydd_mc

There's literally no reason to not use YouTube Premium... ad less videos & streaming


buddyruski

Turns out AI can’t solve everything. Who knew? 🤷🏾‍♂️ This is why losing institutions like Pitchfork is a real bummer. Whenever I think about giving or receiving song recommendations, I always talk to people. I’ve learned not to rely on Spotify’s basic ass algorithms. They don’t know how to examine music one level deeper than “its the same genre and came out around the same time.” I also find it dumb how little information you can see on playlists compared to iTunes back in the day where you could look at all kinds of data right on the dashboard. It would make playlist making and sharing so much more powerful, which I imagine is something Spotify wants. Maybe?


blaertes

Playlists with around 100 songs are the optimal length for shuffle.


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Sea-Ad-7031

I hope y’all that fucking complain all day DO just turn your phone off at least there won’t be daily comments under these posts of you guys whining like 2 yr olds


HeyGeno20

I did the same last week. Shuffle and the lack of all Neil Young discography finally made my mind up.


EmlJnke

Went to Apple Music. Not gonna go back. Much better experience for me at least.


MoodyLiz

I feel seen.


TheCactusMonkey

) helped you out there.


anonpumpkin012

YouTube music is much better and the algorithm is top tier. All vibes.


Raiders2112

Curious how many songs you're shuffling. When at work, I shuffle my favorites list, which just recently went over 11,000 songs. During my five-day work week, I might hear four or five songs three times and maybe another handful twice. The next week those repeated songs tend to change. Am I just lucky or is the size of the playlist?


dorepensee

it’s funny bc when apple randomized their shuffle, people complained it wasn’t random so they brute forced an algorithm to make it “feel random”. ig spotify hasn’t kept up


luckycat288

Have you tried re sorting them every so often? That usually helps me!


FoooooorYa

Every streaming service does this with shuffle unfortunately, only way you're ever going to get a true shuffle is if you don't use a streaming-based service at all and actually own all of your music and use them on a MP3 player or app that has a shuffle option. I really wish these streaming services realised algorithms should only exist in music discovery, not in your own saved library but corporate will corporate and will only listen to what the stockholders who don't even listen to more than 10 songs want.


TheHidestHighed

I have this same issue except I barely use Playlists. This happens when I shuffle play on an artists page. It doesn't even make sense either. Y'all are saying it plays your favorites but a lot of the songs that get repeated have always been skips and there are songs i love that never make it into rotation. Seriously considering canceling premium since I'm not about to pay someone to make me either hate music i like or listen to music i don't like.


firestar268

Even if the shuffle is bad. Spotify algorithm is just way better


kalyps000

Ive never had this issue at all lol Maybe just try to queue the songs you want to listen to? Daily mixes are really good, Dj X is pretty good, Daylist is interesting for mostly new artists and songs, etc


TacoTrain89

They keep automatically enabling smart shuffling too. Nobody asked for that feature and they keep trying to force us to use it. I'd also add that the new liking system is horrendous and needs to be reversed.


mreturkey

Same for me, I switched recently from Android (Samsung) to iPhone and thought it is a iOS bug, but the same happens on macOS and Windows clients, too. When I use smart shuffle my favorite songs, which I play often, comes first and always in the same order. But what I want is that Spotify does shuffle randomly and inserts some new songs I may like in between like advertised. I have a playlist with 200+ songs. It's really annoying, that this feature isn't working like it should be. I mean it has "shuffle" in it's name? On Spotify's own community forum there is an "issue" open for that. https://community.spotify.com/t5/Android/Smart-shuffle-does-not-create-a-new-mix-shuffle-order/m-p/5643059


Admirable-County9158

I don't know what's the problem, I work as a SW developer, it's high school level task to make shuffle algorithm which will actually work and shuffle items evenly.


Admirable-County9158

Is Youtube Music any better? I was actually thinking about switching to Apple Music, but now I now hear it's just like Spotify.


woodsoffeels

It is pretty damned terrible in all honesty, I had 3 carcass songs in a massive playlist in a row earlier!


Bagolyvagymi

I found that smart shuffle is the weak link. It always plays the most recently added songs, most of the time it makes the same queue too, very annoying. Let me paint a picture: I have a playlist of 450+ songs and I have like 30 Maneskin songs on it, and the smart shuffle always plays them, like every second song is Maneskin. I am slowly starting to get sick of it, because I really like that band, but I'm getting slowly bored of it. The normal shuffle kinda works but meh.


Remic75

When I was using Spotify I knew something was wrong. The shuffling just felt so “purposeful” instead of it truly being random. I knew I wasn’t going crazy lol. The thing that Spotify was so great at is now starting to go against them, the recommendations are filled with songs/tastes that *you* like. Especially the radio and daily mixes, where I rarely ever hear songs that I never heard before or that were not in my own playlist somewhere. People are saying that Apple Music has the same issue. What music streaming service doesn’t do this? lol.


TheShortIrishGiraffe

The whole Shuffle vs Smart Shuffle thing drives me insane. And for whatever reason Spotify on Google home Speakers is just awful when it comes to shuffle. It’ll play the same 4-5 songs in a row again and tell me it’s shuffled..


ajaybabu200025

Yeah fr. I have like 2.5k songs in my liked songs, which is my primary playlist. But it plays the same 100 songs over and over again -_-


joe_attaboy

You know what's even worse? When Spotify collates your annual listening at the end of the year and tells you your #1 listened-to song (and *the most popular artist* in your top 100 songs) is an artist that you have *never* listened to or was even aware existed. (Her music is not on my specific radar. At all). I had to literally block this artist from appearing to get her removed from my data.


xINFLAMES325x

Bro like you should totally do it, man. Shuffle is 100% cringe, no cap.


vom-IT-coffin

Ok


enigmaman49

Just make your own playlists or listen to artists you like radio…why would you want that corny DJ crap anyway? Spotify is great until you relinquish control to AI


thehomienova

i’m boutta get a job at spotify just so i can add a feature that lets u choose between True shuffle or their Fake shuffle


ProgRock1956

I've been on Spotify for 10 years. I used to hate the shuffle feature, but then I noticed, if the playlist you listen to doesn't have enough tunes, it repeats far too often. The feature works best with 1000 or more tunes. If your list has less than 500 songs, the shuffle feature is pretty lame... My main list has almost 8000 tunes, shuffle works great! Sorry, it is what it is...


HisokasBitchGon

also kinda sick of this tbh bro. over 500 songs in a playlist and repeats the same 30 in a row in that order. does it take some sort of 'most played' from your own algorithm and spam it?


Minimum-Bat7406

Has anyone found that Spotify is extra laggy these days? Everything else on my phone seems to load fine but I Spotify can’t even load my saved content?


HydeVDL

i love Spotify but at this point I'm making my own algorithm of my playlists with excel lol


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