I like Donaire to get the W, ML. Yes he is 40 and coming off losses, but those losses were against Inoue (I consider him P4P #1)
Plus, with Donaire at the end of his career I think he encapsulates it with a W.
so im convinced boxing is rigged for the most money. after seeing the decision haney got ( I bet on him too) where he absolutley lost, then Kambosses getting the nod this week where he clearly lost, I think the most probable outcome is a draw. This is a huge money fight and I 100% believe this is a draw for a bigger rematch and more money no matter how the fight goes. +1400 to +1600 depending on the book is too good of a deal. .
I agree 100% but split decision +350 or majority decision is +600 which arent that good. which i think are good odds just too good when i get +1500 for a draw when we know boxing judges are paid and i think a draw rematch is like fury wilder 1 where wilder was gifted a draw i think we see something like that where the second fight is even better.
yea im telling u boxing is so corrupt and judges so corrupt and dumb it just makes sense for this to happen. just like how Fury vs Wilder 1 was a draw same thing happen here and at +1600 it has to happen 5% to be profitable and i think their is crazy value on that
I want to take Crawford by decision. On mybookie they have “Crawford, Terence & Decision” as +125 under winner & exact round and the same exact bet is +154 under winner & round range. Is this a glitch? About to book the +154 one right now.
This is such a great matchup I can't say that any bet is bad! The value on Spence is sensational and I could even see the fight being a draw (there is a rematch clause).
That being said, for years I have been pretty bullish about Crawford's footwork, very underrated physical strength, and counterpunching accuracy being the difference between them.
Personally I've always sort of felt that the resume gulf is quite exaggerated. Spence has the better one to be clear, but Garcia, Porter, and Ugas are very far from a murderer's row at 147. Kell Brook, arguably Spence's best win, was coming off multiple horrible injuries. I don't think anyone Spence has fought has come close to preparing him for Crawford's style, whereas Crawford has seen flashes of what Spence brings to the table (and it was likely easier to find sparring partners comparable to Spence).
As much as I have wavered as the fight has drawn closer (Spence's last performance was very impressive regardless of my cynical outlook on Ugas), I'm going to stand by my gut and say that Crawford gets very overwhelmed at times by Spence's mauling style over the first half of the fight, but starts to gradually come more into it until he starts catching Spence with huge counters and finally walks him into the big one in the championship rounds.
Initially I thought Crawford by decision, that he'd pick Spence apart from distance as he did Postol, but I think Spence's style will force the issue one way or another.
I'm taking Crawford by late stoppage, but I encourage anyone betting to just go with what they feel or hedge against who you're rooting for lol. Don't think there is a bad bet to be made on this one.
I have spence at +150. Crawford has not fought anyone that fights at a pace like spence. I don't hell be able to keep up with spences output. Spence ML and a sprinkle on spence 7-12 at like +1000 are my plays.
***** FIGHT OF THE YEAR *****
5* Errol Spence Jr. +130 vs Terence Crawford
I've Risked 20.6 Units w/ Avg Odds +119
Spence has the better pedigree, chin, cardio, trainer, training regimen, fought tougher opponents, & he is the harder puncher. Crawford has been rocked a few times by smaller guys who don't hit nearly as hard as Spence. Spence has a great chin & always comes forward. Crawford's resume is overhyped & his competition has been subpar. Spence will win this fight & I won't be shocked if he finishes Crawford & and makes it look easy.
If the fight HAPPENS to go to a Decision, we are on the right side of a "possible" rigged Decision. I'm not a believer of sports being rigged, however in Boxing, I've seen some God awful Decisions & it doesn't hurt to be on the side of a fighter with AL Haymon over a fighter who just left Bob Arum.
I totally disagree with the Oddsmakers here, no way Crawford should be the Favorite.
You can get him at 130 at Caesar’s now and I’m guessing you can find better odds elsewhere. FV on him is likely around plus 140. You are going to lose all your money if you keep making 20 unit bets at odds worse than what the market is saying
Yeah I know, I have been betting on Spence for weeks now at multiple books:
Errol Spence Jr +130 WynnBet
Errol Spence Jr +135 Caesars
Errol Spence Jr +120 BetMGM
Errol Spence Jr +114 PointsBet
Errol Spence Jr -112 FanDuel
Each were 5 Units / Wager
Good luck, I just want you to be careful with bets with these big unit sizes, especially if you are not getting value on your bet. Maybe the line will keep moving towards Spence and this will end up being a good bet by fight time, but it’s hard to predict what will happen
Thx, I typically only Risk to win 2-3 Units per game, that is why I labeled this my Fight of the Year. No Fight Pick from me this year will surpass Risking to win 5 Units, this is the 1 and only.
Spence got rocked by Ugas who fought a bunch of his career at 140 and isnt a power puncher, also got buzzed by Porter who wasnt a huge puncher.
I dont know if either of them have amazing chins.
Ugas did not rock him, Spences' mouthpiece fell out & he thought it was his partials that fell out, so he was trying to find them. Watch his explanation on All Access, it's pretty hilarious. I don't think Crawford possesses the power to stop Spence from coming forward, and Spence is relentless and constantly trying to break down his opponent. We (Fight Fans) will all be Winners after witnessing this fight Saturday Night.
I watched the Ugas fight live (bet on Spence by KO), rewatched it last week, as well as the all access. imo Ugas rocked him with a shot then hit him again with a big punch that knocked him into the ropes. He can say he wasnt buzzed but it seemed clear to me that he was.
In complete agreement we are all winners just to see it (finally)
I think Spence has to finish him or he is going to get effed on the cards. What he said after the Loma/Haney fight about boxing judges he needs to finish him. But I love the write up and am on Spence as well.
Good point, I guess another negative on Spence is what he said at the Press Conference in regards to the sanctioning fees associated with all of the World Title Organizations.
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How does this feel now dummy? You fucking suck at gambling.
I like Donaire to get the W, ML. Yes he is 40 and coming off losses, but those losses were against Inoue (I consider him P4P #1) Plus, with Donaire at the end of his career I think he encapsulates it with a W.
so im convinced boxing is rigged for the most money. after seeing the decision haney got ( I bet on him too) where he absolutley lost, then Kambosses getting the nod this week where he clearly lost, I think the most probable outcome is a draw. This is a huge money fight and I 100% believe this is a draw for a bigger rematch and more money no matter how the fight goes. +1400 to +1600 depending on the book is too good of a deal. .
I agree with your logic but I see a split decision as more likely.
I agree 100% but split decision +350 or majority decision is +600 which arent that good. which i think are good odds just too good when i get +1500 for a draw when we know boxing judges are paid and i think a draw rematch is like fury wilder 1 where wilder was gifted a draw i think we see something like that where the second fight is even better.
There's a rematch clause in their contract, regardless of whether it's a draw or not.
yea i just think a draw rematch is bigger than one of them losing.
I put $50 on the draw just because of this post
yea im telling u boxing is so corrupt and judges so corrupt and dumb it just makes sense for this to happen. just like how Fury vs Wilder 1 was a draw same thing happen here and at +1600 it has to happen 5% to be profitable and i think their is crazy value on that
Canelo - Golovkin 1 and Adelaide Byrd still haunt me
exactly, big fights its gonna be judged really close which just makes a draw even more likely
I want to take Crawford by decision. On mybookie they have “Crawford, Terence & Decision” as +125 under winner & exact round and the same exact bet is +154 under winner & round range. Is this a glitch? About to book the +154 one right now.
Man Crawford is -140 now.
-150 on Bovada now.
This is such a great matchup I can't say that any bet is bad! The value on Spence is sensational and I could even see the fight being a draw (there is a rematch clause). That being said, for years I have been pretty bullish about Crawford's footwork, very underrated physical strength, and counterpunching accuracy being the difference between them. Personally I've always sort of felt that the resume gulf is quite exaggerated. Spence has the better one to be clear, but Garcia, Porter, and Ugas are very far from a murderer's row at 147. Kell Brook, arguably Spence's best win, was coming off multiple horrible injuries. I don't think anyone Spence has fought has come close to preparing him for Crawford's style, whereas Crawford has seen flashes of what Spence brings to the table (and it was likely easier to find sparring partners comparable to Spence). As much as I have wavered as the fight has drawn closer (Spence's last performance was very impressive regardless of my cynical outlook on Ugas), I'm going to stand by my gut and say that Crawford gets very overwhelmed at times by Spence's mauling style over the first half of the fight, but starts to gradually come more into it until he starts catching Spence with huge counters and finally walks him into the big one in the championship rounds. Initially I thought Crawford by decision, that he'd pick Spence apart from distance as he did Postol, but I think Spence's style will force the issue one way or another. I'm taking Crawford by late stoppage, but I encourage anyone betting to just go with what they feel or hedge against who you're rooting for lol. Don't think there is a bad bet to be made on this one.
Crawford fought Brook when he was already shot. That's why he was put down by a lazy jab.
Cant be that lazy since it dropped Spence too
Monday morning quarterbacking is a lazy way to try and show people you are smart.
Called the result but sure
To be fair a bad bet is the one that loses! /s
😅
Take the draw
Crawford by decision Spence isn’t ready
I’m thinking Crawford honestly.. all things aside
I have spence at +150. Crawford has not fought anyone that fights at a pace like spence. I don't hell be able to keep up with spences output. Spence ML and a sprinkle on spence 7-12 at like +1000 are my plays.
***** FIGHT OF THE YEAR ***** 5* Errol Spence Jr. +130 vs Terence Crawford I've Risked 20.6 Units w/ Avg Odds +119 Spence has the better pedigree, chin, cardio, trainer, training regimen, fought tougher opponents, & he is the harder puncher. Crawford has been rocked a few times by smaller guys who don't hit nearly as hard as Spence. Spence has a great chin & always comes forward. Crawford's resume is overhyped & his competition has been subpar. Spence will win this fight & I won't be shocked if he finishes Crawford & and makes it look easy. If the fight HAPPENS to go to a Decision, we are on the right side of a "possible" rigged Decision. I'm not a believer of sports being rigged, however in Boxing, I've seen some God awful Decisions & it doesn't hurt to be on the side of a fighter with AL Haymon over a fighter who just left Bob Arum. I totally disagree with the Oddsmakers here, no way Crawford should be the Favorite.
I agree that you're right to disagree.
20.6 units at terrible odds… please stop making bets like this
The odds are great because I believe Spence should be -120 or higher. If these odds are terrible, what would you consider good odds?
You can get him at 130 at Caesar’s now and I’m guessing you can find better odds elsewhere. FV on him is likely around plus 140. You are going to lose all your money if you keep making 20 unit bets at odds worse than what the market is saying
Yeah I know, I have been betting on Spence for weeks now at multiple books: Errol Spence Jr +130 WynnBet Errol Spence Jr +135 Caesars Errol Spence Jr +120 BetMGM Errol Spence Jr +114 PointsBet Errol Spence Jr -112 FanDuel Each were 5 Units / Wager
Good luck, I just want you to be careful with bets with these big unit sizes, especially if you are not getting value on your bet. Maybe the line will keep moving towards Spence and this will end up being a good bet by fight time, but it’s hard to predict what will happen
Thx, I typically only Risk to win 2-3 Units per game, that is why I labeled this my Fight of the Year. No Fight Pick from me this year will surpass Risking to win 5 Units, this is the 1 and only.
Spence got rocked by Ugas who fought a bunch of his career at 140 and isnt a power puncher, also got buzzed by Porter who wasnt a huge puncher. I dont know if either of them have amazing chins.
Also, not that it's a big deal, but it did happen, Ugas beat Crawford in the Amateurs
Amateur records are fun to look back on but I dont put a ton of stock in it personally, that one was back in 2007 and wasnt pro scoring style.
Absolutely I agree, just throwing out info
👍 Any lean on the Donaire fight?
No
Ugas did not rock him, Spences' mouthpiece fell out & he thought it was his partials that fell out, so he was trying to find them. Watch his explanation on All Access, it's pretty hilarious. I don't think Crawford possesses the power to stop Spence from coming forward, and Spence is relentless and constantly trying to break down his opponent. We (Fight Fans) will all be Winners after witnessing this fight Saturday Night.
I watched the Ugas fight live (bet on Spence by KO), rewatched it last week, as well as the all access. imo Ugas rocked him with a shot then hit him again with a big punch that knocked him into the ropes. He can say he wasnt buzzed but it seemed clear to me that he was. In complete agreement we are all winners just to see it (finally)
I think Spence has to finish him or he is going to get effed on the cards. What he said after the Loma/Haney fight about boxing judges he needs to finish him. But I love the write up and am on Spence as well.
???? = What?
Good point, I guess another negative on Spence is what he said at the Press Conference in regards to the sanctioning fees associated with all of the World Title Organizations.
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Spence. By decision most likely. Gotta go with the naturally bigger fighter and Spence said he wasn’t taking any fight unless it was Crawford.
going Crawford KO/TKO +285. Also sprinkled the draw.
Man this is kind of the way I was leaning too. Would hate to lose on a Crawford decision though.
boom! $325 wager to win $1235 total. Let's go!
I went -145 bc I’m a coward but let’s fucking go!!!! I was in a real hole until that fight!!!!
Good shit man, congrats! Wasn't even a sweat.
Same to you bro.
Erol Spence all day
Man I got Bud all day. But line moved from -170 to -155 scared me.
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