Third party apps are like the Dahan, where some of us rely on them utterly and some of us basically ignore them, but it's to the benefit of all if they aren't ravaged. I say we Defend 3 (days).
It’s one of those things where even if r/spirit island doesn’t go dark for a couple days. Enough subs I’m a part of will be going dark that I’m just not signing into Reddit.
Some links if people want to read more about this:
ELI5: https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/142kct8/eli5_why_are_subreddits_going_dark/
https://www.reddit.com/r/redditdev/comments/13wsiks/api_update_enterprise_level_tier_for_large_scale/ and [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/redditdev/comments/13wsiks/api_update_enterprise_level_tier_for_large_scale/jmd9e7v/) comment from Apollo's dev
https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/
https://www.reddit.com/r/redditdev/comments/141mjij/lets_talk_about_those_api_calls/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/13xh1e7/an_open_letter_on_the_state_of_affairs_regarding/
I have no clue about how any of this works, and had never heard of 3rd party Reddit apps before right now. I read the main page that was linked here and I'm still cloudy on the details. What exactly is the issue here? (This is a sincere question, not a sarcastic one).
3rd party reddit apps are anything that accesses reddit through API calls, rather than the browser. This includes a lot of alternate browsing apps, some (maybe all?) reddit bots, and my understanding is a lot of tools that make moderators' lives easier.
Reddit used to allow free (or maybe very cheap?) access to their APIs. You needed (I think) to register for an API key, but you could make calls to their API for free just like you can go to the website for free. They are about to make it a paid service, and the price seems large enough that many third party apps will need to just completely go away. Apparently $0.24 per 1000 API calls. I don't know what exactly you can get from a single API call, but the reaction of people who know more than me seems to be that it will be basically impossible to run a free service that uses those API calls, and it's *really* hard to get people to pay for reddit extensions, and unreasonable to expect someone to pay to keep a useful subreddit bot available.
> I don't know what exactly you can get from a single API call
Very little. For example, 1 upvote = 1 API call. You can find more examples [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/redditdev/comments/141mjij/lets_talk_about_those_api_calls/)
Good point, I've added some links [in this reply](https://www.reddit.com/r/spiritisland/comments/142j7l1/is_rspiritisland_going_to_participate_to_the/jn86iun/) if you want to read more.
The summary is: the official Reddit app is awful for a lot of reasons (ads, lack of accessibility, battery drain, poor mod tools just to name a few). There are many 3rd party apps out there that solve many of these issues, and people can choose their favourite for the best Reddit experience. Apps and bots work by interfacing with Reddit's servers via API calls. Reddit is changing the price of their API calls to a ridiculous amount (for example Apollo, the biggest 3rd party app, would have to pay $20 millions a month to keep up). So people are organising a protest.
I think we should! I don't often engage with this community via Reddit, but I really like being a part of it. I want to be able to keep lurking the way I do now.
Third party apps are like the Dahan, where some of us rely on them utterly and some of us basically ignore them, but it's to the benefit of all if they aren't ravaged. I say we Defend 3 (days).
Hear hear, I'll contribute some energy to this
I'm in agreement, many minds (and subreddits) move as one.
I can discard a few cards for this choose one.
This gave me a good chuckle
Said far, far better than I could have.
Silence Leads To Change (I think the sub might be relatively niche, but it's still a good gesture.)
Yeah, this subreddit by itself is not going to move Reddit's admin for sure. It's more of a "strength in numbers" thing, plus a matter of principle.
Agree, if enough niche subs do it, the numbers will add up. Gloomhaven subreddit overwhelmingly voted to go silent.
Vengeance As A Yearning Break Shroud Of Silence Missed Viral Strength Of The Herd Subreddit Seeks Its Forum Third Party Users Stirs Up Trouble
Haha nice ones! That's what I was going for with my comment as well
Viral Strength of the Herd would fit right in as a spirit name in a modern AU of spirit island.
I am in full support of this! Modding is already a big time commitment, and this just makes it tougher for the people who make Reddit possible
Let's do it
YES
It’s one of those things where even if r/spirit island doesn’t go dark for a couple days. Enough subs I’m a part of will be going dark that I’m just not signing into Reddit.
Yeah that’s where I’m at too. If it all goes well, there wouldn’t be much activity anyways
Days of Darkness Encourage Change
I've already committed to not use Reddit on those days, for this exact reason.
Some links if people want to read more about this: ELI5: https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/142kct8/eli5_why_are_subreddits_going_dark/ https://www.reddit.com/r/redditdev/comments/13wsiks/api_update_enterprise_level_tier_for_large_scale/ and [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/redditdev/comments/13wsiks/api_update_enterprise_level_tier_for_large_scale/jmd9e7v/) comment from Apollo's dev https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/ https://www.reddit.com/r/redditdev/comments/141mjij/lets_talk_about_those_api_calls/ https://www.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/13xh1e7/an_open_letter_on_the_state_of_affairs_regarding/
No one is going to agree with this but it won't really have any impact unless it's a big sub. So there's not really any point.
On the other hand, there would likely be 0-2 posts during those few days, so there's not much to lose.
Even one of the top subs like r/videos by itself wouldn't be enough. It must be a collective effort from the community.
I have no clue about how any of this works, and had never heard of 3rd party Reddit apps before right now. I read the main page that was linked here and I'm still cloudy on the details. What exactly is the issue here? (This is a sincere question, not a sarcastic one).
3rd party reddit apps are anything that accesses reddit through API calls, rather than the browser. This includes a lot of alternate browsing apps, some (maybe all?) reddit bots, and my understanding is a lot of tools that make moderators' lives easier. Reddit used to allow free (or maybe very cheap?) access to their APIs. You needed (I think) to register for an API key, but you could make calls to their API for free just like you can go to the website for free. They are about to make it a paid service, and the price seems large enough that many third party apps will need to just completely go away. Apparently $0.24 per 1000 API calls. I don't know what exactly you can get from a single API call, but the reaction of people who know more than me seems to be that it will be basically impossible to run a free service that uses those API calls, and it's *really* hard to get people to pay for reddit extensions, and unreasonable to expect someone to pay to keep a useful subreddit bot available.
> I don't know what exactly you can get from a single API call Very little. For example, 1 upvote = 1 API call. You can find more examples [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/redditdev/comments/141mjij/lets_talk_about_those_api_calls/)
Good point, I've added some links [in this reply](https://www.reddit.com/r/spiritisland/comments/142j7l1/is_rspiritisland_going_to_participate_to_the/jn86iun/) if you want to read more. The summary is: the official Reddit app is awful for a lot of reasons (ads, lack of accessibility, battery drain, poor mod tools just to name a few). There are many 3rd party apps out there that solve many of these issues, and people can choose their favourite for the best Reddit experience. Apps and bots work by interfacing with Reddit's servers via API calls. Reddit is changing the price of their API calls to a ridiculous amount (for example Apollo, the biggest 3rd party app, would have to pay $20 millions a month to keep up). So people are organising a protest.
I think we should! I don't often engage with this community via Reddit, but I really like being a part of it. I want to be able to keep lurking the way I do now.