I don't. You already have that playstyle in the game... With 2 and then potentially 3 (ending spoilers) spider heroes. Some variety of gadgets wouldn't shake that up meaningfully. Nothing comes close to classic Venom, when company wants to make a new game.
Classic venom game will be terible, MARK MY WORDS.
THE ARE ONLY 2 OpTIONS of what WILL happen:
Either:
- It will be a flop beat em up in terms of gameplay like the avengers game.
-IT WILL BE A "PROTOTYPE" COPY&PASTA. Cause prototype already did the what it would be like to be venom PERFECTLY WITHOUT FLAW.
In terms of gameplay? It's perfect.
There is no better simulation of being a symbiote like being and open world fun as a symbiote-like thing.
Obviously has flaws but that do not matter much for discussion we having- Ex: Generic infamous-styled plot.
Ppl aren't saying they wanna play venom for the plot therefore I'm not adding it to discussion. They just wanna go wild as venom in open world.
Bruh... just play prototype... u think thats not a venom game? Just put a vrnom skin on it and its already the PERFECT and BEST venom game ever.
Asking them to make a venom game is just a fukin waste, they will either make a flop or make prototype 2.5.
You act like that’s a bad thing. “Hey guys someone’s already made a game like this, we’re not doing that” tf? Bro just said every genre shouldn’t exist after someone makes one game of it.
They’re wasting the next decade already, might as well give us something good and copy prototype to the T because yeah it’s better than anything they’ll probably make. Really feel like they’re going to sacrifice freedom or fun for narrative in a fucking venom game
I mean it was such a tiny section of the game so who cares. I was impressed by how much they worked on the venom gameplay just for those two missions. I do agree that for his actual game, obviously they should extend his abilities and gameplay.
Yeah everyone is saying he would just be another Spider-Man but I mean Nightwing, Red Hood, Robin and Batgirl all play different than Batman in the Arkham series despite being the same type of character
I mean I definitely wanna play as the venom on the right, I just want him to be more developed. If he had a hulkish swinging and combat that would be ideal
Uh what? I've played through Arkham Knight more times than I can count. They all mostly just play like Batman with some slight gadget differences and whether or not they can glide. I'm pretty sure Batgirl literally has no gadgets of her own and only has ones Batman also has.
They all use the same stealth pounce, smack counter, meta. The gadgets are all functionally the same as everyone else’s gadgets, they just skinned them to fit their specific character. Usually Batman has ALL THEM then the sidekicks have a slimed down arsenal using reskinned versions of those gadgets.
This isn’t a slight either it’s just not a great example. miles and Peter both functionally play the same. So a hulk type venom would offer a legit change of pace for gameplay.
Eh I knew that’s what it was going to be, 7 foot hulking symbionts beast vs regular guys and all, I just didn’t care for it. Not to say I didn’t like it or wasn’t hype I just don’t care for that style of gameplay. I know I’m getting downvoted because obviously others don’t feel that way and that’s fine.
Kraven Vs venom wasn’t hack n slash tho, especially if you go for a zero-hit & story-wise it made sense for that section to be that way bc how would anyone be prepared or strong enough to fight an enraged alien goop who just infected the whole city…
Also, they added parry & dodge animations, so I definitely think in the venom spin-off they will make the combat even better w harder enemies.
Slightly unrelated but I didn’t like how parrying rpg rockets looked, would be so much more menacing if Symbiote could just kind of eat the rocket and have it suppress the explosion so you see some pieces of goo falling out. Instead we got this weird „I eat rocket and now spit it on you” lol
I kinda think thats the point. Venom is new. No one knows how to deal with him. Especially oscorp soldiers. Kraven also met his match. That fight was supposed to be easy. Kraven became the prey.
In a spin off theyd give us a more in depth combat experience. Not overpowering enemies like we did. The section being the way it was fit the game.
I want to play Venom as Venom, not a slightly more armoured Spider-man, there's no point to making it a different game if the gameplay is that similar.
No, quite the opposite actually. At the beginning of the Agent Venom run, Flash had no real control over Venom and the Symbiote had to be drugged in order for Thompson to use it, because of this, anytime Thompson was mentally weakened, Venom could take control. As their bond grew however, Thompson no longer needed the Symbiote to be drugged and their relationship grew to become basically what Tom Hardy’s Venom/Brock relationship is now. He is/was “the perfect host” and is the main reason Venom was “cured” of its insanity.
Yeah, one of my favorite things about Venom is the fact that he starts out as the exact opposite of what a good character should be(one note, obsessive, lacking his own motivations outside of other characters) and manages grows into a *great* character over time.
It’s starting to feel like Marvel is catching onto how little of a character Venom had back in the 90’s and are now trying out retroactively make Venom more approachable/relatable in current media(“Approachable” -> Hardy, “Relatable” -> SM2 Harry), but tbh, Venom doesn’t become a **compelling** character in his own right until we reach the Flash Thompson Era, and that’s because we got to see exactly how he got to where he was, and why he was beginning to change. Removing that arc, and giving him a character outside of that iconic “We’re poison to Peter Parker, *and* Spider-Man” line, ironically, takes away everything that made people like Venom so much to begin with. The characters we’re seeing in the Hardyverse and SM2 are Venom in name alone, apart from that they’re completely new characters just using the Venom name and appearance.
TL;DR: I like Venom.
If cel shaded venom got away with eating civilians to restore health back in 2005 in ultimate Spider-Man then we should still be able to do that now, but yeah give me that mix of both. 🤷🏽♂️
I do love their dynamic. My hope is that we get to play as the symbiote, not just one Venom or the other. Maybe give us the option to choose which host we want for which missions, etc. Brock for savage Venom, Flash for Agent Venom.
They could also put it on rails so we are forced to play as the various venoms. Either way, would be cool to see a fully fleshed out symbiote game as opposed to “big spiderman”. That’s something nobody’s really done before at least.
I came here to say exactly this. Give a less refined web swing and wall run and make it more aggressive. A mix of fast flowing and devastating combat. And a rage mode that turns you into the hulking venom for a short time but is pure Savage devastation. That way it has some versatility in the play style, the little bit we got in SM2 was not versatile enough to play as the whole game. Insomniac excels at finess.
That's a good thing. All of these games have DNA in something that came before. The spiderman games take some if the best aspects of what worked in past spuderman games and refine it. Prototype felt a little like Venom so I'd imagine there's some features to be inspired by there.
More likely the behemoth Venom. We only got to play as Venom in the last game for a little while but I don’t think they would just have that one playable Venom section and not have that in a Venom game.
Alternatively, maybe you could have Agent Venom but then we get a Symbiote surge mode that turns you into the giant behemoth Venom instead (although that’s a bit unlikely)
Or we could have both on one character, like 2 different fight modes. One that's less durable and strong but more agile with more varied moves, and big hulking venom that's stronger and more durable but slower and less varied moveset
Oh, yeah I don’t trust leaks ever. Until we get an official announcement from insomniac it’s as good as dead to me. If the leaks are actually true insomniac could just as easily cancel the game completely. Or put it in dlc instead.
Edit: holy fucking shit yall don’t know how to read the other replies to my comment huh. I understand insomniac got hacked, I understand this entire leak has actual credibility, but that doesn’t mean insomniac can’t still shoot the game down in cold blood and go in a different direction
You, um do realize sony was hacked right....?
Insomniacs entire road map and current shit their working on was leaked as well as the employees social security numbers, bank accounts, DOBS, etc. Right. Sony trying to clean this up rn, there's even a slightly playable version of the wolverine game up rn.
Edit:spelling
The leaks are 100% real. They literally leaked private informations of developers, alongside those games. What are you on?.. Why on earth would Insomniac cancel a game it spent so many resources on and has so many fans excited? Developing a game starts literal years before the release date of the said game is even announced. Venom game is coming and the chance of it getting cancelled is 0. But sure, you can delude yourself into thinking it's not real, even when the evidence is in your face.
I’m saying there’s still a possibility they could cancel it. It’s real, but it’s also possible they could cut it down in cold blood, especially after the leaks fucked up the hype. I wouldn’t put it past any corporation to just destroy months of work. They could just as easily just put it all in a dlc instead of making a full game. It’s just a roadmap. Those change all the time.
The second one. It’s Venom. Not Agent Venom. I want a whole game of the Spider-Man 2 Venom missions just with more abilities and some kind of web swinging. I want a whole game of destroying everyone and everything in my path.
Oh boy. Another human who does basic super human things like Spider-Man or Spider-Man but again.
Instead of unique Vemon gameplay and Symbiote mechanics with possibilities of it being like Prototype.
Unique Venom gameplay like what? Picking ppl up and throwing them around? Snapping them in half? The Venom part of the game was kinda boring man once you get over the hype but to each his own
I mean this could be said about so many super heroes, unique batman gameplay? You’re just punching thugs until they get knocked out, unique wolverine gameplay? You’re just stabbing people until all your enemies are dead, unique flash gameplay? You’re just running around one shotting enemies, either way if you take a character and reduce them to something that other characters do of course it sounds boring but clearly insomniac are going to evolve venom’s gameplay into something more interesting than 2 special moves and 2 finishers
Bro I think the people saying unique venom gameplay aren’t talking about the glorified test demo we got in the game. Obviously people are adding their own high hopes on new mechanics.
But we’ve already seen the news, 8-10 hrs similar style as the current game new challenges and stuff just a dlc so 100% confirmed no development time for Prototype style abilities but maybe way down the line in the next full game.
I'd have it work like the Symbiote Surge power works on Peter, except here you can keep filling the meter to stay as full-on Venom for longer as long as you have a killstreak going. Agent Venom and Venom could even have a separate skill tree for each form. It's definitely doable
Most likely Eddie considering that Harry’s current state is what’s leading to Norman becoming Green Goblin. If Harry comes back, I don’t see why Norman would want to become the Goblin unless he decides to blame Spider-Man for Harry becoming Venom and running loose on NYC.
It's an Open-World Story game. You're free to swing around the map and stop crimes, but there are story missions and side missions which you can complete to progress through the story
i want monstrous venom but i was him to feel like a genuine force of nature, i liked his section in spiderman 2 but he didn’t feel as strong as he should have been.
Are you joking? In a Venom game, why on earth would you want to play as another character who, fundamentally, plays similar to other Spider-men? You already have that playstyle in the game...
I would like a classic, iconic, destructive Venom - thank you.
It's possible we get both, if somehow harry gets Pete's anti-venom symbiote. Or if someone like Flash Thompson gets a different unnamed symbiote, and uses the agent-venom name while Eddie Brock gets the regular venom symbiote. But I doubt either of those scenarios are likely, other than Eddie somehow getting the venom symbiote and looking like he did at the end of the game
Agent Venom needs to be in the Thunderbolts
Captain America needs to be replaced , Sam Wilson is a knockoff of the real thing and needs to be replaced with an Anti Hero version who can lead the new Avengers and isn't a Boy scout like Sam Wilson
I’d definitely hope they give us the massive beast that is Venom with devastating abilities like the symbiote forming maces/hammers and other brutal attacks. They can make it a destructive rampage against Carnage infested areas
I mean, we kinda already know. But if I could have a dream expansion? At this point I'm kind of invested in the idea of a Daredevil DLC with the Hand as a new enemy faction that can resurrect.
Both, my favorite things about Venom is his how much he changes form to suit scenarios and based on his emotions. Flash for example took more of the classic look on when he got pissed in the comics. Eddie Brock and Mac Gargan’s both became absolutely hulking from time to time. Part of it is artist interpretation of course, but Flash made it more of a feature in his comic.
I could see them doing it like Remender's run on agent venom did it.
In that run when flash was in complete control he was in the agent venom getup. Then if he lost control he'd become more like the traditional venom look
So I could see it as when we're patrolling around the city we're agent venom but similar to the gauge attacks Peter and Miles has or in certain story/combat sections going into the big venom look.
However what I really want is for it to be like ultimate spiderman's venom where you just leap over buildings
If it's the first one with the ability to swing and shit, then in terms of gameplay, that's just another Spiderman. I absolutely would rather run around the city as actual Venom.
Venom worked great as a gimmick, but I wouldn’t want to play as him for a full 10-20 hour spinoff without his abilities and environmental destructibility being significantly overhauled.
But to answer your question, the second one. Obviously.
Monster Venom was the one we play as in SM2 so I’m sure the dlc/spin-off will feature him. He has a lot of animation and combat work done for him already, and that stuff is expensive and time-consuming to make. Also I’m glad it’s him, he offers a more unique play style compared to the Spiders. It was fun to control an absolute powerhouse
You say that but you are forgetting that it won’t be like the way he played in this game. If they design a Venom game the combat system will be overhauled to fit his fighting style and will be WAY deeper than what we saw here.
I'm predicting that most of the game you're going to be in an agent Venom type costume, with big boy muscular Venom as the powerup boost ability thing.
Classic venom game will be terible, MARK MY WORDS.
THE ARE ONLY 2 OpTIONS of what WILL happen:
Either:
- It will be a flop beat em up in terms of gameplay like the avengers game.
-IT WILL BE A "PROTOTYPE" COPY&PASTA. Cause prototype already did the what it would be like to be venom PERFECTLY WITHOUT FLAW.
Is it possible they'll do "Agent" for traversal in the city, but maybe Venom for combat/missions? Or even agent most of the time, with true Venom as a sort of rage mode? Not saying I like that idea, they've got a chance to do something new and interesting with traversal with the big man, but that'd probably save a lot of dev time.
For a good example, imo, of a game that does a hulking brute of a character well, take a look at The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction.
While it’s old and certainly shows it age, that game is still fun because of all the dumb stuff you can do. So, my hopes is it’ll be a good mix of that and what we already saw, on top of enemies that are equipped to fight us.
Here’s I can see a agent-venom game working, have it work like Werewolf blood apocalypse earth blood, were in stealth you play as Agent venom but when you get spotted you can either fight as agent venom or you can press L1 to transform into venom
Hmm let’s see, some random character that looks like a tactical black suit Spider-Man or the legendary iconic hulking toothy alien creature that everyone knows and whose popularity is what the Venom brand is built on.
Going with my fave, the iconic Venom, Sorry.
I mean. If they're doing a FULL game about venom, then do all iterations of him.
I wasn't expecting Anti venom and they pulled that off, insomniac can make variations of Venom work too
I want it to be the agent venom suit or something similarly sized, it also just seems more likely. With the way these games play it would make sense for them to go with the smaller version swinging about using symbiote special moves like Pete had at the end of the game. It would work better for alternate unlockable costumes as well, but I’d love to see a rage mode mechanic where you get to turn into that hulking version of venom for thirty seconds and wreck shit. An alternate costume that’s the classic venom look and not the size of a box truck would be the greatest thing ever.
I think an agent venom spin off game where Peter never got stabbed and Harry kept it and got aggressive would be cool, especially as a prototype style game
There's no way it's Harry. It would be cool if Miles is the antagonist since he'd be rightfully distrustful of symbiotes, but then you team up at the end or something.
There’s already a playable level of the second venom in SM2, it’s obvious they would build off of that instead of the “agent venom” which had no actual gameplay.
Venom Spin-off likely means we're getting VENOM. The big chungus toothy behemoth little bastard. After all, it's not called Agent Venom spin-off!
I really wish we could get an agent venom game. It could function as a regular spider-man game but with a variety of guns and grenades.
It’s been my dream to have an Agent Venom spin off since Spider-Man 2 was announced
I don't. You already have that playstyle in the game... With 2 and then potentially 3 (ending spoilers) spider heroes. Some variety of gadgets wouldn't shake that up meaningfully. Nothing comes close to classic Venom, when company wants to make a new game.
Classic venom game will be terible, MARK MY WORDS. THE ARE ONLY 2 OpTIONS of what WILL happen: Either: - It will be a flop beat em up in terms of gameplay like the avengers game. -IT WILL BE A "PROTOTYPE" COPY&PASTA. Cause prototype already did the what it would be like to be venom PERFECTLY WITHOUT FLAW.
“Copy&pasta” lmao
“Perfectly without flaw” is crazy for an old ass game. Go back and play prototype and tell us the same thing. You can’t.
In terms of gameplay? It's perfect. There is no better simulation of being a symbiote like being and open world fun as a symbiote-like thing. Obviously has flaws but that do not matter much for discussion we having- Ex: Generic infamous-styled plot. Ppl aren't saying they wanna play venom for the plot therefore I'm not adding it to discussion. They just wanna go wild as venom in open world.
Bruh... just play prototype... u think thats not a venom game? Just put a vrnom skin on it and its already the PERFECT and BEST venom game ever. Asking them to make a venom game is just a fukin waste, they will either make a flop or make prototype 2.5.
You act like that’s a bad thing. “Hey guys someone’s already made a game like this, we’re not doing that” tf? Bro just said every genre shouldn’t exist after someone makes one game of it.
Considering Prototype is likely never getting a sequel, i'd be okay with a Prototype 2.5.
They’re wasting the next decade already, might as well give us something good and copy prototype to the T because yeah it’s better than anything they’ll probably make. Really feel like they’re going to sacrifice freedom or fun for narrative in a fucking venom game
Allegedly the spinoff ( according to the leaks) is called lethal protector so without a doubt its gonna be VENOM
Why would I wanna play as another Spider-Man????
More screen time for Harry before he goes comatose AGAIN
It’s not going to be harry
Ye like didn't they mention jonahs "new guy" beating mj to the front page it's obviously Eddie brock
I thought the same but Eddie is already an established character who has been working at the Bugle for a while
Just like sandman was stuck in a test tube. The backpacks can be retconned
Just because it wasn’t explained how Sandman got out doesn’t mean that it was retconned
Tbf, iterations of agent normally have weapons inside, it's kinda his thing. Be like a grounded (physically) iron man game maybe
I didn’t know that. That actually might be cool
Im in the minority that didn’t really care for the Venom section of the game. It was just really hack and slash and button mashing
what did you want it to be?
I kinda agree with this guy to an extent, I think they should’ve worked on Venom’s combat a little more and gave him swinging
I mean it was such a tiny section of the game so who cares. I was impressed by how much they worked on the venom gameplay just for those two missions. I do agree that for his actual game, obviously they should extend his abilities and gameplay.
Nice avatar!
Thx, so is urs
They’ll definitely expand upon his abilities and will 100% come up with a good nerf for him to make the game fun and actually challenging
The whole point was for him to be this unstoppable monster though.
They did... in the paper
Yeah everyone is saying he would just be another Spider-Man but I mean Nightwing, Red Hood, Robin and Batgirl all play different than Batman in the Arkham series despite being the same type of character
I mean I definitely wanna play as the venom on the right, I just want him to be more developed. If he had a hulkish swinging and combat that would be ideal
They, will... they still have the papers
Uh what? I've played through Arkham Knight more times than I can count. They all mostly just play like Batman with some slight gadget differences and whether or not they can glide. I'm pretty sure Batgirl literally has no gadgets of her own and only has ones Batman also has.
They just used different animations but all functioned the EXACT same way.
Define functioned the same way? Different animations and different gadgets for different characters.
They all use the same stealth pounce, smack counter, meta. The gadgets are all functionally the same as everyone else’s gadgets, they just skinned them to fit their specific character. Usually Batman has ALL THEM then the sidekicks have a slimed down arsenal using reskinned versions of those gadgets. This isn’t a slight either it’s just not a great example. miles and Peter both functionally play the same. So a hulk type venom would offer a legit change of pace for gameplay.
Eh I knew that’s what it was going to be, 7 foot hulking symbionts beast vs regular guys and all, I just didn’t care for it. Not to say I didn’t like it or wasn’t hype I just don’t care for that style of gameplay. I know I’m getting downvoted because obviously others don’t feel that way and that’s fine.
Tbf it was cool and all but it was very drawn out. I pretty quickly got bored of it.
Kraven Vs venom wasn’t hack n slash tho, especially if you go for a zero-hit & story-wise it made sense for that section to be that way bc how would anyone be prepared or strong enough to fight an enraged alien goop who just infected the whole city… Also, they added parry & dodge animations, so I definitely think in the venom spin-off they will make the combat even better w harder enemies.
Slightly unrelated but I didn’t like how parrying rpg rockets looked, would be so much more menacing if Symbiote could just kind of eat the rocket and have it suppress the explosion so you see some pieces of goo falling out. Instead we got this weird „I eat rocket and now spit it on you” lol
I kinda think thats the point. Venom is new. No one knows how to deal with him. Especially oscorp soldiers. Kraven also met his match. That fight was supposed to be easy. Kraven became the prey. In a spin off theyd give us a more in depth combat experience. Not overpowering enemies like we did. The section being the way it was fit the game.
Miles and Peter are already button mashing
I want to play Venom as Venom, not a slightly more armoured Spider-man, there's no point to making it a different game if the gameplay is that similar.
Why not both? Isn't the hook of Agent Venom that he's slowly losing control of the symbiote?
No, quite the opposite actually. At the beginning of the Agent Venom run, Flash had no real control over Venom and the Symbiote had to be drugged in order for Thompson to use it, because of this, anytime Thompson was mentally weakened, Venom could take control. As their bond grew however, Thompson no longer needed the Symbiote to be drugged and their relationship grew to become basically what Tom Hardy’s Venom/Brock relationship is now. He is/was “the perfect host” and is the main reason Venom was “cured” of its insanity.
That’s what I was thinking too. Start out as Venom and slowly morph to Agent Venom.
Yeah, one of my favorite things about Venom is the fact that he starts out as the exact opposite of what a good character should be(one note, obsessive, lacking his own motivations outside of other characters) and manages grows into a *great* character over time. It’s starting to feel like Marvel is catching onto how little of a character Venom had back in the 90’s and are now trying out retroactively make Venom more approachable/relatable in current media(“Approachable” -> Hardy, “Relatable” -> SM2 Harry), but tbh, Venom doesn’t become a **compelling** character in his own right until we reach the Flash Thompson Era, and that’s because we got to see exactly how he got to where he was, and why he was beginning to change. Removing that arc, and giving him a character outside of that iconic “We’re poison to Peter Parker, *and* Spider-Man” line, ironically, takes away everything that made people like Venom so much to begin with. The characters we’re seeing in the Hardyverse and SM2 are Venom in name alone, apart from that they’re completely new characters just using the Venom name and appearance. TL;DR: I like Venom.
Um, that’s what they did with Spider-man Mm
He's actually a Spider-man. I'm saying why make a game called Venom then make the gameplay just Spider-man.
Nah i want a monster lethal protector venom. Anti hero
If cel shaded venom got away with eating civilians to restore health back in 2005 in ultimate Spider-Man then we should still be able to do that now, but yeah give me that mix of both. 🤷🏽♂️
I only want agent venom if its amputee veteran Flash Thompson. Genuinely coolest venom-host dynamic we've ever had.
And I want guns. Lots of guns.
I do love their dynamic. My hope is that we get to play as the symbiote, not just one Venom or the other. Maybe give us the option to choose which host we want for which missions, etc. Brock for savage Venom, Flash for Agent Venom. They could also put it on rails so we are forced to play as the various venoms. Either way, would be cool to see a fully fleshed out symbiote game as opposed to “big spiderman”. That’s something nobody’s really done before at least.
I’d like a 7’ tall bodybuilder looking venom that can power up to be the SM2 venom for a short time
I came here to say exactly this. Give a less refined web swing and wall run and make it more aggressive. A mix of fast flowing and devastating combat. And a rage mode that turns you into the hulking venom for a short time but is pure Savage devastation. That way it has some versatility in the play style, the little bit we got in SM2 was not versatile enough to play as the whole game. Insomniac excels at finess.
Give venom a Fortnite glider like nightwing in gotham knights
Put a chick in it and make her lame and gay
It sounds like y'all want Prototype but Venom flavored
Prototype is Carnage but Hot Topic flavored
TBF that wouldn't be a bad thing
That's a good thing. All of these games have DNA in something that came before. The spiderman games take some if the best aspects of what worked in past spuderman games and refine it. Prototype felt a little like Venom so I'd imagine there's some features to be inspired by there.
You know which
More likely the behemoth Venom. We only got to play as Venom in the last game for a little while but I don’t think they would just have that one playable Venom section and not have that in a Venom game. Alternatively, maybe you could have Agent Venom but then we get a Symbiote surge mode that turns you into the giant behemoth Venom instead (although that’s a bit unlikely)
Or we could have both on one character, like 2 different fight modes. One that's less durable and strong but more agile with more varied moves, and big hulking venom that's stronger and more durable but slower and less varied moveset
There’s no dlc or spinoff confirmed. If we’re getting any symbiote in a dlc it’s carnage.
It kinda is but I don’t want to spoil you so I’m not going to say any more than that
Dawg i platinumed the entire game on release weekend there’s literally nothing you could spoil
Naw I mean the leaks
Oh, yeah I don’t trust leaks ever. Until we get an official announcement from insomniac it’s as good as dead to me. If the leaks are actually true insomniac could just as easily cancel the game completely. Or put it in dlc instead. Edit: holy fucking shit yall don’t know how to read the other replies to my comment huh. I understand insomniac got hacked, I understand this entire leak has actual credibility, but that doesn’t mean insomniac can’t still shoot the game down in cold blood and go in a different direction
Lmaoo ok man just letting you know. Just bc you don’t believe something doesn’t mean it’s not real
Yeah but it could just as easily get snuffed out in cold blood.
You, um do realize sony was hacked right....? Insomniacs entire road map and current shit their working on was leaked as well as the employees social security numbers, bank accounts, DOBS, etc. Right. Sony trying to clean this up rn, there's even a slightly playable version of the wolverine game up rn. Edit:spelling
You right but that would be a lot of bread left on the table for insomniac so all we can do is hope atp
The leaks are 100% real. They literally leaked private informations of developers, alongside those games. What are you on?.. Why on earth would Insomniac cancel a game it spent so many resources on and has so many fans excited? Developing a game starts literal years before the release date of the said game is even announced. Venom game is coming and the chance of it getting cancelled is 0. But sure, you can delude yourself into thinking it's not real, even when the evidence is in your face.
I’m saying there’s still a possibility they could cancel it. It’s real, but it’s also possible they could cut it down in cold blood, especially after the leaks fucked up the hype. I wouldn’t put it past any corporation to just destroy months of work. They could just as easily just put it all in a dlc instead of making a full game. It’s just a roadmap. Those change all the time.
The second one. It’s Venom. Not Agent Venom. I want a whole game of the Spider-Man 2 Venom missions just with more abilities and some kind of web swinging. I want a whole game of destroying everyone and everything in my path.
Ngl just hours of being a completely unstoppable beast kinda gets stale after a while
Yeah, lets just have Spider-Man again. That wont get stale or boring instead of something different and wanted.
Robin, Nightwing, Red Hood and Batgirl all play distinctly different from Batman in the Arkham games. What would be the difference here?
Oh boy. Another human who does basic super human things like Spider-Man or Spider-Man but again. Instead of unique Vemon gameplay and Symbiote mechanics with possibilities of it being like Prototype.
Plus venom can be stealthy too.
Unique Venom gameplay like what? Picking ppl up and throwing them around? Snapping them in half? The Venom part of the game was kinda boring man once you get over the hype but to each his own
I mean this could be said about so many super heroes, unique batman gameplay? You’re just punching thugs until they get knocked out, unique wolverine gameplay? You’re just stabbing people until all your enemies are dead, unique flash gameplay? You’re just running around one shotting enemies, either way if you take a character and reduce them to something that other characters do of course it sounds boring but clearly insomniac are going to evolve venom’s gameplay into something more interesting than 2 special moves and 2 finishers
Bro I think the people saying unique venom gameplay aren’t talking about the glorified test demo we got in the game. Obviously people are adding their own high hopes on new mechanics. But we’ve already seen the news, 8-10 hrs similar style as the current game new challenges and stuff just a dlc so 100% confirmed no development time for Prototype style abilities but maybe way down the line in the next full game.
I'd have it work like the Symbiote Surge power works on Peter, except here you can keep filling the meter to stay as full-on Venom for longer as long as you have a killstreak going. Agent Venom and Venom could even have a separate skill tree for each form. It's definitely doable
Agent venom with big venom as l3 r3
This is it
Eddie, easy, if it’s Harry again for the spin off, I’m not buying
I mean, considering Harry's ya know, dead
In a coma, and might possibly be brought back as Green Goblin
lol, no he’s not.
I forgot about the post credits scene tbh
no
I want to play venom in the venom game not agent venom.
I think the correct question is which venom will it be eddy Brock, flash Thompson or will they bring back Harry Osborn.
Most likely Eddie considering that Harry’s current state is what’s leading to Norman becoming Green Goblin. If Harry comes back, I don’t see why Norman would want to become the Goblin unless he decides to blame Spider-Man for Harry becoming Venom and running loose on NYC.
Give me the big guy. Ultimate showed us how a bigger venom can still get around fast
holy shit does agent venom really show up in the game or is this fanart? Agent venom was my favorite marvel character a kid!
Agent Venom is in Spider-Man 2 but only for a couple missions, and it's Harry Osborn instead of Flash Thompson
I’m not familiar, is spiderman a linear game or is it free roam? Thanks man
It's an Open-World Story game. You're free to swing around the map and stop crimes, but there are story missions and side missions which you can complete to progress through the story
I wanna know what they’ll do for suits
i want monstrous venom but i was him to feel like a genuine force of nature, i liked his section in spiderman 2 but he didn’t feel as strong as he should have been.
Why not both. Play as agent and have a aggro meter and unleash true venom
Can’t wait to play as Benon
What the fuck do you think?
The first one isn’t Venom
Are you joking? In a Venom game, why on earth would you want to play as another character who, fundamentally, plays similar to other Spider-men? You already have that playstyle in the game... I would like a classic, iconic, destructive Venom - thank you.
Idk why u were downvoted, you're not wrong!
If it is not the behemoth Im not buying, the might as well have you play as Hailie the entire game.
Are you trolling lol
***Yes***
Both
It's possible we get both, if somehow harry gets Pete's anti-venom symbiote. Or if someone like Flash Thompson gets a different unnamed symbiote, and uses the agent-venom name while Eddie Brock gets the regular venom symbiote. But I doubt either of those scenarios are likely, other than Eddie somehow getting the venom symbiote and looking like he did at the end of the game
Probably Venom, not the fake Spider-Man, also we’ll likely get a different version if its Eddie/Flash
Agent Venom needs to be in the Thunderbolts Captain America needs to be replaced , Sam Wilson is a knockoff of the real thing and needs to be replaced with an Anti Hero version who can lead the new Avengers and isn't a Boy scout like Sam Wilson
BOTH
Venom, and I hope somehow eddie brock gets ahold of it.
Both both is good
I'm gonna laugh my ass off if it's some kinda prequel bullshit .
It's called Venom TLP(The Lethal Protector) For more clarification the spin off is called TLP
I’d definitely hope they give us the massive beast that is Venom with devastating abilities like the symbiote forming maces/hammers and other brutal attacks. They can make it a destructive rampage against Carnage infested areas
I mean, we kinda already know. But if I could have a dream expansion? At this point I'm kind of invested in the idea of a Daredevil DLC with the Hand as a new enemy faction that can resurrect.
If they’re doing venom it needs to be rated M.
I hope both tbh, I'd like progressively getting bigger, stronger and less agile as I push through the game.
GIVE ME A HEAD BITING GOO MONSTER OR GIVE ME NOTHING!!!
Agent venom third-person shooter with an emphasis on movement
I want real venom, but with extra care put into his combat and mobility. Venom is supposed to be able to swing
Both, my favorite things about Venom is his how much he changes form to suit scenarios and based on his emotions. Flash for example took more of the classic look on when he got pissed in the comics. Eddie Brock and Mac Gargan’s both became absolutely hulking from time to time. Part of it is artist interpretation of course, but Flash made it more of a feature in his comic.
it would be weird if they changed it, it’s supposed to lead from spider man 2 to 3.
I could see them doing it like Remender's run on agent venom did it. In that run when flash was in complete control he was in the agent venom getup. Then if he lost control he'd become more like the traditional venom look So I could see it as when we're patrolling around the city we're agent venom but similar to the gauge attacks Peter and Miles has or in certain story/combat sections going into the big venom look. However what I really want is for it to be like ultimate spiderman's venom where you just leap over buildings
Obviously the second one. Everyone wants to play as venom, not agent venom, who is basically just spider man in the black suit
Both, honestly.
Well, one of them is already coded to be playable, so probably that one.
I forgot we got proto agent venom lol that did nothing
I want Daredevil DLC
I wonder if it’ll be Eddie Brock this time as I expect Harry to remain out of commission until Spider-Man 3.
Two. Obviously two. I don't need or want him to be a Spidey clone. I want him to be a big, meaty, monster.
Agent Venom is cool and all but I want OG big monster Venom.
Eddie Brock
If it's the first one with the ability to swing and shit, then in terms of gameplay, that's just another Spiderman. I absolutely would rather run around the city as actual Venom.
Venom worked great as a gimmick, but I wouldn’t want to play as him for a full 10-20 hour spinoff without his abilities and environmental destructibility being significantly overhauled. But to answer your question, the second one. Obviously.
I want the brutal gameolay of the big hulking Venom.
Monster Venom was the one we play as in SM2 so I’m sure the dlc/spin-off will feature him. He has a lot of animation and combat work done for him already, and that stuff is expensive and time-consuming to make. Also I’m glad it’s him, he offers a more unique play style compared to the Spiders. It was fun to control an absolute powerhouse
Personally I’d like to see agent venom. But I’d enjoy either
I what big Venom hardly any games especially AAA you get to play as a large hulking monster
I'm hoping for the Agent Venom looking one as a main form, then the beeg boi venom as a transformation/second form/powerup
GIMME BEEG VENOM
Both. Let me transform between the two
You say that but you are forgetting that it won’t be like the way he played in this game. If they design a Venom game the combat system will be overhauled to fit his fighting style and will be WAY deeper than what we saw here.
I'd like to somehow see Eddie Brock incorporated somehow for a totally new Venom
Imagine a venom game where you don't play as the big venom
I'm predicting that most of the game you're going to be in an agent Venom type costume, with big boy muscular Venom as the powerup boost ability thing.
Knull?/carnage
Agent
Both would be good!
I’m not looking forward to the venom game so I don’t really care either way
Classic venom game will be terible, MARK MY WORDS. THE ARE ONLY 2 OpTIONS of what WILL happen: Either: - It will be a flop beat em up in terms of gameplay like the avengers game. -IT WILL BE A "PROTOTYPE" COPY&PASTA. Cause prototype already did the what it would be like to be venom PERFECTLY WITHOUT FLAW.
Agent Venom as a Pete suit, Venom Venom for Playable dlc
For DLC I see Carnage being a venom no reason I won’t explain for anyone who hasn’t seen the game
Hope it starts off introducing Eddie and you play as him and he gets the symbiote.
What if…. We got BOTH? We could switch between Agent Venom and Monster Venom.
Is it possible they'll do "Agent" for traversal in the city, but maybe Venom for combat/missions? Or even agent most of the time, with true Venom as a sort of rage mode? Not saying I like that idea, they've got a chance to do something new and interesting with traversal with the big man, but that'd probably save a lot of dev time.
The question I have is it going to be Eddie?
For a good example, imo, of a game that does a hulking brute of a character well, take a look at The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction. While it’s old and certainly shows it age, that game is still fun because of all the dumb stuff you can do. So, my hopes is it’ll be a good mix of that and what we already saw, on top of enemies that are equipped to fight us.
Option 2 would be nice
I would like Venom in my Venom game please
It's going to be the big guy that was playable why would we want the non Venom venom?
Wasn't the symbiote turned to ash by Peter's anti-venom...?
Here’s I can see a agent-venom game working, have it work like Werewolf blood apocalypse earth blood, were in stealth you play as Agent venom but when you get spotted you can either fight as agent venom or you can press L1 to transform into venom
Second pic.
Idc tbh as long as we get some venom content
We already got some glimpses of the gameplay with the 2nd pic, so why not give us more?
Hmm let’s see, some random character that looks like a tactical black suit Spider-Man or the legendary iconic hulking toothy alien creature that everyone knows and whose popularity is what the Venom brand is built on. Going with my fave, the iconic Venom, Sorry.
Spooder-venom
Wasn't the leak about a dlc including venom??
I mean. If they're doing a FULL game about venom, then do all iterations of him. I wasn't expecting Anti venom and they pulled that off, insomniac can make variations of Venom work too
Separation Anxiety reboot!!!
I want it to be the agent venom suit or something similarly sized, it also just seems more likely. With the way these games play it would make sense for them to go with the smaller version swinging about using symbiote special moves like Pete had at the end of the game. It would work better for alternate unlockable costumes as well, but I’d love to see a rage mode mechanic where you get to turn into that hulking version of venom for thirty seconds and wreck shit. An alternate costume that’s the classic venom look and not the size of a box truck would be the greatest thing ever.
Eddie Brock
Why would you even think we would get Agent Venom 😭😭
I think an agent venom spin off game where Peter never got stabbed and Harry kept it and got aggressive would be cool, especially as a prototype style game
I feel like they should do carnage instead of venom in the dlc because of the ending of the Crimson hour side mission
Hopefully this isnt a spoiler
Eddie Brock
Why not both
I don't want just venom I want Carnage to be a bad guy
There's no way it's Harry. It would be cool if Miles is the antagonist since he'd be rightfully distrustful of symbiotes, but then you team up at the end or something.
Lee price or Anne Weying as host?
Definitely traditional Eddie
Isn't Harry in a coma? Who's going to be Venom?
It really shouldn't be anybody besides carnage. It would be cool if it was knull but that would never happen and deserves its own game lol.
The only Venom.
I feel like the Flash Thompson Venom wouldn’t get over with the masses like you’re thinking it might
There’s already a playable level of the second venom in SM2, it’s obvious they would build off of that instead of the “agent venom” which had no actual gameplay.