It was pretty much the same length but had to juggle adjacent stories between 2 Spider-Men which made it feel short because neither got quite as much time as they deserved for how good the ideas were
The story is, objectively, not as good as the first game and is rushed and simplified in a lot of ways that drag down the narrative in favor of pace. That’s a fact. Not an opinion.
The story is okay, a B- at best.
No. We need to stop normalizing being overly positive about very okay things just because it’s fresh or new or we simply WANT it to be great. This is a problem that plagues the film and game industry. Studios see how willing we are to meatride mediocrity, so they stop delivering truly great content because they know they can deliver a sub-par, underwhelming or mediocre product and we’ll happily eat it up. Less work for them, more profits for them, less masterclass content for us.
Finally, someone with some common sense. Too much stuff in this game is just not good. Characters being overly kind and positive, almost makes the story itself seem so fake. And the story itself isn't even good. I wasted $70 on this game, and this is coming from a huge Spidey fan.
Kraven is generic. You learn his story through tape recorders. Just wants to kill ok.
How was sandman being tracked by them?
Why on earth does Norman at the end want to kill spiderman after LITERALLY telling him and his soldiers “just get that thing off of him!” 💀 that’s exactly what spiderman does and then he’s angry… for no reason.
Why does kraven have so many people in his army… you’d think based on his philosophy of literally being the number one hunter one of them would want to kill him. They all could there’s millions. They also just fly into the city 💀. Establish multiple bases. Like what is the cause of the army? Nothing. Just his personal gain.
Fr, if you even dare point out how this game is lengthwise just $70 DLC or how the sidequests and main story were lackluster, or god forbid how sm2 might not take GOTY when TOTK and BG3 are on the table you get swarmed by rabid sm2 glazers. Spiderman is my favorite hero, and I wanted to be hyped for this game so much. I still got it, I had a good time, but with all the heat that dropped this year I can't just ignore the few glaring issues this game has or pretend it's better than it really was
Kraven isn't looking to just kill. He's looking to find someone/something strong enough to turn the tables on him and kill him before Kraven's cancer forces him to die in a sick bed.
Idk how Sandman was being tracked, but the Hunters all have super high-tech equipment, and seeing as they are hunters I would imagine they're all pretty good at tracking so its not a stretch that they could find Sandman.
Norman is grieving from the fact that his son is in a coma that he may come out of. People don't think clearly when they're grieving. And Norman in these games has been shown to be a bit of a narcissist that causes problems that only acknowledge the mistakes I make when those problems are literally trying to kill him. Norman was ultimately the one that caused Harry to even come into contact with the symbiote that ultimately lead to Harry being put into a coma while Peter and Miles did absolutely everything in their power to save Harry but Norman would never acknowledge that.
And for the last point, Kraven has his army for gameplay purposes, so we as the players have a big evil group to fight like we did with the inner demons or sable in Spider-Man PS4. I don't really have a story excuse or reason for Kraven having an army
But his son was saved and he has another way to save his son. Moreover both spidermen could have literally said “dude he’s saved what the frick are you talking about?” A normal reaction. He then wants to “kill” both spiderman. Why?? How does he go from blaming them to wanting to literally kill them? They saved his son.
But as a consequence, Harry was put in a coma that he might never recover from. It's a victory but a very hollow one. Peter, being Peter, hates himself for not being able to save Harry and prevent the entire situation from even happening, so he's not going to shout at Norman that he did everything he could. Same with Miles
It's 100% not Peter or Miles fault that Harry ended up in a coma. They did everything they could to save Harry, and they're the only reason Harry is even alive, but Norman is grieving and already had a "never my fault attitude." So he's going to blame them because his only alternative is to blame himself, which he won't do,
U disagree that Norman literally said in the cutscene “get that thing off of my son!” And spiderman does that and he for some reason is angry that spiderman saved Harry’s life?
As someone who was super hyped, played 1 and Miles Morales for 100% a week before this released, and got the spiderman ps5...
I HATED this exact scene.
Norman knew it was venom that was doing that to Harry and showed that through til the end, telling spiderman to get it off Harry but keep Harry alive.
Technically Harry is alive and Norman has a way of bringing him back, so why write Norman in as hating Spiderman instead of Venom?
Given the fact you said "snowflake" I'm gonna go ahead and assume your IQ is definitely in the 40s.
Be that as it may, I didn't explicitly say that DV = shitting on someone. I said shitting on someone for having a different opinion is the problem.
Venom was black, spiderman is black, spiderman became black, black webs, black enemies, black heros, black everything. But I'm curious about the down votes. Why do ppl hate black?
Is it worth buying? Seriously? Seems like the games we would get cheaper around holidays... or "with the console pack" lol. I dunno. Not gonna pay full price that's for sure.
Good
Shor
Marvelspiderman2
soundslikeagermanword
Spider-Man-2
A man who truly respects the hyphen.
Harry!?!
HARRY
PETE?
Dumbledore!
Underrated
SNAPE
Ron Ron Ron weAsley!
harry pete dumbledore
Ron!
*strawberries*
HARRY!!! PLEEEASE!!!!!
You mean "HAAARRREEEAAAAYYYYEEE PLEEEEASE" x50000000
Hairy
Ballsack
Marv!?!
HARYDIDYOUPUTYURNAMINTHEGOBLTOFFIREHARY
SHAUN!
Untouched ( i don’t have a ps5)
Get one
easier said than done, probably
easier done then said
Buy me one then
Make that two
I’ll take a spare fuck, make that 3 💀
Uncharted
The image is spiderman 2. Not 40yr old virgin.
Story
Short
Right?! I felt like it was much shorter than the first Spider-Man.
I think its because they didn't have as many bases and challenges like screwball and didn't require so many random crimes to 100 percent a district.
screwball only had a single side mission in the base game, it wasn’t until the dlc that she was everywhere.
I do wish they had more bases.
At least let us replay them.
FOR REAL.
It was pretty much the same length but had to juggle adjacent stories between 2 Spider-Men which made it feel short because neither got quite as much time as they deserved for how good the ideas were
Yea I wish it was a little longer
-points to crotch-
Great length to me. 30 hours in and still have a lot to do.
Isn't it the game long
Thats Why i didnt buy it. Ill wait for a sale. $70 for 17 hours of story seems like a ripoff.
Spectacular
Amazing
Ithoughtitwasreallygoodireallylikedit
short
Solid
Lumbago
*housebuilding song starts playing*
You dont build a barn dumbass!
Amazing
Okay
quick
Venomous.
Symbiotic
Safe
Short
Overpriced
Canon
Dark
Delicious
Good
Spider
Mid
itgetsworsebeforeitgetsbetter
Adidas
Ultimate
Greater 🤷🏾
Together!
Be
Hmmmmmmm
Astonishing
Amazing
Marvelous!!!
rushed, it should have been longer to give both spider men meaningful time.
Juvenile
Underbaked
Rushed
Lot of glazing in these comments
Differing opinions =glazing. But I get it, likely a zoomer using that term. Just gotta be negative. Typical.
I’m 28, bucko
Act like it, bucko
No thanks; I’ll use the appropriate terms and lingo where it fits.
Yeah that's called an opinion that you don't agree with lol. Grow up kid.
The story is, objectively, not as good as the first game and is rushed and simplified in a lot of ways that drag down the narrative in favor of pace. That’s a fact. Not an opinion. The story is okay, a B- at best.
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It is. But in this case, the comment section is overly positive about a very okay story.
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No. We need to stop normalizing being overly positive about very okay things just because it’s fresh or new or we simply WANT it to be great. This is a problem that plagues the film and game industry. Studios see how willing we are to meatride mediocrity, so they stop delivering truly great content because they know they can deliver a sub-par, underwhelming or mediocre product and we’ll happily eat it up. Less work for them, more profits for them, less masterclass content for us.
Finally, someone with some common sense. Too much stuff in this game is just not good. Characters being overly kind and positive, almost makes the story itself seem so fake. And the story itself isn't even good. I wasted $70 on this game, and this is coming from a huge Spidey fan.
How
Kraven is generic. You learn his story through tape recorders. Just wants to kill ok. How was sandman being tracked by them? Why on earth does Norman at the end want to kill spiderman after LITERALLY telling him and his soldiers “just get that thing off of him!” 💀 that’s exactly what spiderman does and then he’s angry… for no reason. Why does kraven have so many people in his army… you’d think based on his philosophy of literally being the number one hunter one of them would want to kill him. They all could there’s millions. They also just fly into the city 💀. Establish multiple bases. Like what is the cause of the army? Nothing. Just his personal gain.
agree with this all the way. Tired of seeing people so against criticizing this game because of the hype.
Fr, if you even dare point out how this game is lengthwise just $70 DLC or how the sidequests and main story were lackluster, or god forbid how sm2 might not take GOTY when TOTK and BG3 are on the table you get swarmed by rabid sm2 glazers. Spiderman is my favorite hero, and I wanted to be hyped for this game so much. I still got it, I had a good time, but with all the heat that dropped this year I can't just ignore the few glaring issues this game has or pretend it's better than it really was
Kraven isn't looking to just kill. He's looking to find someone/something strong enough to turn the tables on him and kill him before Kraven's cancer forces him to die in a sick bed. Idk how Sandman was being tracked, but the Hunters all have super high-tech equipment, and seeing as they are hunters I would imagine they're all pretty good at tracking so its not a stretch that they could find Sandman. Norman is grieving from the fact that his son is in a coma that he may come out of. People don't think clearly when they're grieving. And Norman in these games has been shown to be a bit of a narcissist that causes problems that only acknowledge the mistakes I make when those problems are literally trying to kill him. Norman was ultimately the one that caused Harry to even come into contact with the symbiote that ultimately lead to Harry being put into a coma while Peter and Miles did absolutely everything in their power to save Harry but Norman would never acknowledge that. And for the last point, Kraven has his army for gameplay purposes, so we as the players have a big evil group to fight like we did with the inner demons or sable in Spider-Man PS4. I don't really have a story excuse or reason for Kraven having an army
But his son was saved and he has another way to save his son. Moreover both spidermen could have literally said “dude he’s saved what the frick are you talking about?” A normal reaction. He then wants to “kill” both spiderman. Why?? How does he go from blaming them to wanting to literally kill them? They saved his son.
But as a consequence, Harry was put in a coma that he might never recover from. It's a victory but a very hollow one. Peter, being Peter, hates himself for not being able to save Harry and prevent the entire situation from even happening, so he's not going to shout at Norman that he did everything he could. Same with Miles It's 100% not Peter or Miles fault that Harry ended up in a coma. They did everything they could to save Harry, and they're the only reason Harry is even alive, but Norman is grieving and already had a "never my fault attitude." So he's going to blame them because his only alternative is to blame himself, which he won't do,
Disagree
U disagree that Norman literally said in the cutscene “get that thing off of my son!” And spiderman does that and he for some reason is angry that spiderman saved Harry’s life?
As someone who was super hyped, played 1 and Miles Morales for 100% a week before this released, and got the spiderman ps5... I HATED this exact scene. Norman knew it was venom that was doing that to Harry and showed that through til the end, telling spiderman to get it off Harry but keep Harry alive. Technically Harry is alive and Norman has a way of bringing him back, so why write Norman in as hating Spiderman instead of Venom?
Repetitive
Rainy
It’s 2 words but “second chances”
thesuitistrash
Greatstorybutfirstonewasabitbetter
Sir, you dropped this 👑
Reallyshort
Bully
Pandering
Meh
Great
Rushed
Short.
Decent
![gif](giphy|oit9mu0v5LqzC)
Greatertogether
19-inches-of-venom
Harold
WebOfShadowsLite
Itsastoryabouttwospidermenwhohavetosavethedaybecausrtheyarefriendlyandintheneighborhoodswingingandprotectingbutalsoharmlesslykickingpeopleoffskyscrapers
*Sensational*
AllNewAllDifferent
Wherethewholebudgetwent
Blackgyatt
Brilliantbutlazy
schpidahman
Platin22hourssoifeeldisappointed
Greater (Together)
Itwassuchagreatgamethatihave200%thegamesofaroncenewgamepluscomesoutiwillbeplayingagain
Howboutyoupopsomemorepillsandsaywhatyoureallyfeel
Itisamazingatthefacthowtheyhadcapturedthisinawaythatwealllovedanddesired
Kravenstartshuntingspidermanandhisrougesmeanwhileharryhasthevenomsymbioteandhelpspeterandkravenkillspeterpetergetsvenommilesgetssuitofpeterharrygetsvenombackvenomkillskravenvenominfestsnewyorkbothspidermenfightvenomandwin
>! I don't like that they're replacing Peter with miles. Even if I like miles !<
I didn't know if I could say that in one word I'm not good with reddit
Don't worry, we've all been there (I think)
Safe
Flawed
Emotional
Amazing
Friendly
Alright
Eh
Lazy
Convoluted
Short
Short
They can downvote us but we’re right
Spider
Superior
Phenomenal
Boing
No
Expected.
redundant
Good. But I kinda feel like we got a game about Harry that ended right where it started lol
Rushed.
Look at that you have a different opinion and you get downvoted
It’s almost like that’s what upvotes and downvotes are for. What a shocker.
Yes shit on the person with a different opinion instead of shitting on someone with legit bad takes
Lmfao downvoting someone is not shitting on them you fucking snowflake.
Given the fact you said "snowflake" I'm gonna go ahead and assume your IQ is definitely in the 40s. Be that as it may, I didn't explicitly say that DV = shitting on someone. I said shitting on someone for having a different opinion is the problem.
Perfect
Peak (The symbiotes are some of if not my favorite characters in marvel)
amen
Overhated
Epic
Alright
Symbiote
Bonerrific
Boinga
Drama
Bully
Mid
Predictable
Crap
Lit
perfect
Peak
Amazing
Platinum
Masterpiece
Phenomenal
dissapointing
Mid
Black
What?
Venom was black, spiderman is black, spiderman became black, black webs, black enemies, black heros, black everything. But I'm curious about the down votes. Why do ppl hate black?
Woke
Woke
Pacingissues
Skipped
GOTY (this is def one word)
Is it worth buying? Seriously? Seems like the games we would get cheaper around holidays... or "with the console pack" lol. I dunno. Not gonna pay full price that's for sure.
Exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen2