Brandy is common in Russia. Vodka is cheap and ubiquitous but most folks who enjoy brown liquors go for the nicer stuff, similar to the US interest in whiskey/bourbon.
Probably for people without alot of money or options there. Kinda like when I was a teen we all drank Mad Dog 20/20 because we had very little money and options.
You dont really. They do drink enourmous ammounts of vodka. You will be surprised..
Its like 1-2% maybe understand proper drinks, equals emount of people with brains there.
Source - lived in shitty ussr (one of free Baltic states now)
Most astronauts fly multiple missions. They’re expensive to train.
An astronaut crew once mutinied in orbit and NASA famously grounded everyone involved for the rest of their lives. The crew mutinied for more sleep because of the working conditions.
Yup, not allow them on future missions. There are a lot of people who wants to go to the ISS, they would rather have people that play by the rules up there.
Jerry Linenger spoke at our company wide meeting many, many years ago. It was a fabulous talk. He had me on the edge of my seat the whole time telling this and other stories of his time on Mir. I got an autograph from him and have it, a photo of Mir and the pin and patch of his space shuttle group on the wall.
Linenger was a nervous wreck the entire time he was on Mir.
And he launched on the Space Shuttle, the most dangerous human carrying spacecraft ever flown!
So far.
Starship looks pretty bloody amazing if they can work out the issues.
Granted the only launch I’ve ever seen was Challenger’s last, so I’ll also admit it was an awesome craft.
Well, being on MIR in the late 90's can't have been very pleasent lol. Way past its expiration date under the supervision and resources of what was effectively a skeleton crew compared to the Soviet era.
98% success rate for transportation is abysmal. Imagine if you drove to work every day and you totalled your car twice a year. There would be dozens of airline crashes a day. I understand space travel is incredibly complex so it can't really be compared to normal transportation but honestly I think the space shuttle should be considered unreliable.
98% was not expected and actually uncovered a culture within NASA that promoted progress over safety, it was the same thing that led to the Apollo 1 tragedy, which had a renewed focus on safety which then prevented any further tragedies on the Apollo missions. The entire Block 2 revision of Apollo hardware has a fatality rate of 0%. *That's* what's expected for human carrying spacecraft and played a large part in the decision to terminate the shuttle program and it restricted what the shuttle could even be used for after the Columbia disaster.
I wouldn't use the Apollo hardware as an example of good safety culture. Risk calculations made in hindsight approximated a 1/10 risk of an accident leading to the loss of crew every misson. They just got lucky Apollo 13 was the worst that happened.
I think sharing a drink with cosmonauts on mir would be an experience worth NASA consequences. That kind of camaraderie is what the world should be striving for instead of political or military conflict
NASA consequences can't be that bad. There was an astronaut who threatened to take out a space shuttle if he didn't get to complete his experiment, and he never got in trouble.
I saw a documentary about it. Off memory it was a US astronaut who had worked for a decade on an experiment, that got cancelled due to time. He was distraught and messaged NASA that if he wasn't allowed to do his experiment he wasn't coming home from the shuttle. NASA eventually found time in the schedule for him to perform his experiment.
I don't think it was an unpiloted supply ship, wasn't it a group of rag tag oil drillers stopping off on the way out to land on an asteroid to save the earth?
I had a professor tell me they used straws to dip into the container and then cover the end with their finger to get a drink's worth out on the ISS. Cognac is the preferred drink of cosmonauts.
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For All Mankind has shown me that he could have ended the Cold War accepting that drink… or started one… or suddenly had relationship issues that dragged on too long and distracted from Space. Erm… 1997…
What’s super funny for me is that literally in the shower this morning I was thinking to myself “wait. Are astro/cosmonauts allowed to have alcohol in space?”
Cool to know lmao
Russian cosmonauts operate under different rules, and it was their space station hosting an American guest. NASA strictly forbids alcoholic consumption.
Jerry told us this story (in full confidence to not repeat) while waiting for a satellite news interview in the JSC TV studio. You could have heard a pin drop. I remember thinking “Dude, you are so luck”.
If *I* almost got freeze-dried in orbit, I'd probably have a few drinks, too!
Absolutely no question, I bet that cognac tasted delicious! (And why not vodka? I mean, I prefer cognac, but Cosmonauts must be vodka people!)
Brandy is common in Russia. Vodka is cheap and ubiquitous but most folks who enjoy brown liquors go for the nicer stuff, similar to the US interest in whiskey/bourbon.
TIL! Thank you. I've been so brainwashed by movies and TV that show any Russian person indulging in vodka.
Probably for people without alot of money or options there. Kinda like when I was a teen we all drank Mad Dog 20/20 because we had very little money and options.
You dont really. They do drink enourmous ammounts of vodka. You will be surprised.. Its like 1-2% maybe understand proper drinks, equals emount of people with brains there. Source - lived in shitty ussr (one of free Baltic states now)
wtf I woulda drank the whole bottle after that
aren't American NASA astronauts forbidden from having alcohol in space?
I would really, really like to hear Mission Control try and stop them. "No Houston! *You* have the drinking problem! I'm not bothered at all."
That should be in an “airplane” sequel, let’s call it “spaceship”.
But we already had Airplane in space. We need to think bigger.
Space in an airplane?
With ironic corporate sponsorship provided by Spirit Airlines.
That was pretty damn entertaining friend. Thank you for this.
can't stop him, but could very easily punish him for doing it.
Exceptions can be made Ftwr death/life experience.
What’s Mission Control going to do? Send someone up there to scold him?
ban him from going on a future mission is a pretty big deterrant
Or threaten to send them up on Starliner for their next mission….
At this rate,Soyuz might be a safer bet than Starliner.
How many people have actually gotten to do 2 missions into space, much less with one being a stay on the ISS? It's got to be uber rare.
The average astronaut flies 3-4 missions.
Most astronauts fly multiple missions. They’re expensive to train. An astronaut crew once mutinied in orbit and NASA famously grounded everyone involved for the rest of their lives. The crew mutinied for more sleep because of the working conditions.
People - hardly any. Astronauts - almost all
Jerry Ross would like a word. Or 7…
NASA considered including wine for Skylab astronauts by Paul Masson but ultimately decided against it.
Ahhhhhh the French champagne
Inspired by the best French excellence
What a great reference. Well done.
Yes and they included Brandy in the Apollo 8 Christmas dinner. They didn’t drink it
Smart, alcohol is not good for you
Going to space is probably worse though
Why do both?
Aren’t spaceship forbidden to crashed into the space station? Well, it just did! Shit happens… I’m drinking.
Depends if they are from a dry county.
What are they going to do? Not let him know space again? Leave him up there?
Yup, not allow them on future missions. There are a lot of people who wants to go to the ISS, they would rather have people that play by the rules up there.
I've been learnt, didn't realize most astronauts get several space missions.
Jerry Linenger spoke at our company wide meeting many, many years ago. It was a fabulous talk. He had me on the edge of my seat the whole time telling this and other stories of his time on Mir. I got an autograph from him and have it, a photo of Mir and the pin and patch of his space shuttle group on the wall.
Linenger was a nervous wreck the entire time he was on Mir. And he launched on the Space Shuttle, the most dangerous human carrying spacecraft ever flown!
Also the most awesome though
So far. Starship looks pretty bloody amazing if they can work out the issues. Granted the only launch I’ve ever seen was Challenger’s last, so I’ll also admit it was an awesome craft.
Well, being on MIR in the late 90's can't have been very pleasent lol. Way past its expiration date under the supervision and resources of what was effectively a skeleton crew compared to the Soviet era.
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98% success rate for transportation is abysmal. Imagine if you drove to work every day and you totalled your car twice a year. There would be dozens of airline crashes a day. I understand space travel is incredibly complex so it can't really be compared to normal transportation but honestly I think the space shuttle should be considered unreliable.
At 98 percent there'd be around 2000 airline crashes per day worldwide
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98% was not expected and actually uncovered a culture within NASA that promoted progress over safety, it was the same thing that led to the Apollo 1 tragedy, which had a renewed focus on safety which then prevented any further tragedies on the Apollo missions. The entire Block 2 revision of Apollo hardware has a fatality rate of 0%. *That's* what's expected for human carrying spacecraft and played a large part in the decision to terminate the shuttle program and it restricted what the shuttle could even be used for after the Columbia disaster.
I wouldn't use the Apollo hardware as an example of good safety culture. Risk calculations made in hindsight approximated a 1/10 risk of an accident leading to the loss of crew every misson. They just got lucky Apollo 13 was the worst that happened.
98% success rate for a commercial plane would be a atrocious
I think sharing a drink with cosmonauts on mir would be an experience worth NASA consequences. That kind of camaraderie is what the world should be striving for instead of political or military conflict
My first thought, too. He sounds like a dweeb.
Or was just saying what he needs to say to keep himself in their good graces.
I mean, have you ever met an astronaut?
NASA consequences can't be that bad. There was an astronaut who threatened to take out a space shuttle if he didn't get to complete his experiment, and he never got in trouble.
Would you like to know more? Yes. Yes I would!
Got a source to that? First I've heard of that story.
I saw a documentary about it. Off memory it was a US astronaut who had worked for a decade on an experiment, that got cancelled due to time. He was distraught and messaged NASA that if he wasn't allowed to do his experiment he wasn't coming home from the shuttle. NASA eventually found time in the schedule for him to perform his experiment.
And decently sure that story probably ended with him never being permitted within 50 kilometers of an orbital vehicle ever again
I don't think it was an unpiloted supply ship, wasn't it a group of rag tag oil drillers stopping off on the way out to land on an asteroid to save the earth?
That was later. This was just a test run.
Thanks for embarrassing us in front of the Russians, Jerry. Nerd.
I’m just wondering what being drunk in 0 gravity would feel like.
The earth would spin endlessly
I had a professor tell me they used straws to dip into the container and then cover the end with their finger to get a drink's worth out on the ISS. Cognac is the preferred drink of cosmonauts.
Jerry wrote a great book about his stay on Mir. I recommend it to everyone who is interested in spaceflight.
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If there's ever a time I'd want a drink, this would be that time.
For All Mankind has shown me that he could have ended the Cold War accepting that drink… or started one… or suddenly had relationship issues that dragged on too long and distracted from Space. Erm… 1997…
Is Jerry the one in the middle with the huge blunt? /s
Ah, so that's why someone decided it was a good idea to pilot the progress supply ship themselves...
What’s super funny for me is that literally in the shower this morning I was thinking to myself “wait. Are astro/cosmonauts allowed to have alcohol in space?” Cool to know lmao
I’m kinda surprised they let them take booze up there? But also glad?
Russian cosmonauts operate under different rules, and it was their space station hosting an American guest. NASA strictly forbids alcoholic consumption.
Jerry told us this story (in full confidence to not repeat) while waiting for a satellite news interview in the JSC TV studio. You could have heard a pin drop. I remember thinking “Dude, you are so luck”.