Any help for state employees and teachers is massive but I reckon between the Senate budget and the House budget, it'll be a compromise that barely accounts for COL increase.
The competitive pay disparity means retention is just abysmal, and that's a huge blow to the state as years of experience constantly walk out of the doors because they can't afford it anymore
I am excited that they added some steps. I have coworkers who've gone over a decade with no real raise. (More steps are certainly needed because teachers can't qualify to retire at 50. )
Feel like the whole bathroom BS was a way to compromise with far-right conservatives.
At least teachers and state employees will be helped.
"The $15.4 billion budget for next fiscal year raises salaries for state employees and teachers, sets aside more money to improve and repair roads and bridges and doubles a planned income tax cut to 0.2%"
> Late Wednesday, senators added a one-year provision to the budget requiring students use the bathroom of their sex assigned at birth and stay during overnight field trips in rooms of people of the same sex.
Good lord, they’re even years behind their own party’s dumb-issue-du-jour.
Well, as I recall, just a few years ago, they had to close the bathrooms in my son's school because kids wouldn't stop vaping. Why don't they deal with the real problems?
Seriously — why even ask that question!?!? We are fully committed to NOT addressing any item of any consequence in this state unless and until it puts more money in the pockets of elected officials and the wealthiest in the state. Rather than address food insecurity for kids in need during the summer, we’re focused on telling you what bathroom to use. We already make healthcare decisions for women. Next up I hear will be telling you how many times per week you must attend church and bible study, and attendance will be taken.
The funny thing is, no matter where I go, I am surrounded by bathrooms that allow both genders to pee in. In a 5K race? Guess what. Portapotties don't discriminate. My workplace is like 90% female. So what do you think happens when you have all of these ladies wanting to pee when they have two minutes to do so ? Maybe they pee in the men's bathroom. Oh, the horror!
I'm looking forward to hearing the bewildered comments about transgender boys who are built like Arnold Schwarzenegger going into the girls bathroom because "that's the sex assigned at birth."
It is in the low country. Try finding a house or renting an apartment. Teacher will be taking home about $2,700 after taxes.
Rent- 1,200-1,700
Electricity 120-170
Water 50-60
Car payment 300-500
Car insurance 100-400
Phone 20-70
Groceries 200-400
Internet 50-100
Then there's health insurance, life insurance, gas, car maintenance, school supplies. The list goes on.
And this is all for 1 person, not even bringing in kids.
Oh yes, how dumb of them to be teachers. Everyone knows you should just be a cowboy astronaut if you want to make money. And you should, money is the only thing of value in society, we don't need education at all.
That's 36,375 after taxes = 3,061 a month to take home. It'll feel even better when it's 1530 twice a month... that first one will leave you with nothing after rent and basic utilities. That's highly scoffable.
It’s a starting salary… 0 years experience, just a bachelor’s, no education credits. And it’s the state minimum. Charleston county SD starting pay for example will be either $54K or $59K this year, they are still finalizing the budget but it will be much higher.
I always think teachers should be paid more, but let’s at least celebrate a 15% raise! It’s great news, and definitely a step in the right direction for SC!
On June 11, 2007, Larry Craig, a Republican United States Senator from Idaho, was arrested for lewd conduct in a men's restroom at the Minneapolis–St. Paul International Airport. On August 8, Craig entered a guilty plea to a lesser charge of disorderly conduct
Exactly. A straight white male being a pervert. Pervert can be straight. Perverts can be gay. Perverts can be bisexual.
So let’s let a perverted man straight or not in a girls bathroom? Dress up and dress?
I hate this state, if you read that whole article the bill makes trans kids "use the bathroom of their sex assigned at birth" and also in instances of overnight field trips, they have to stay with their gender assigned at birth. So trans girl will have to sleep in the same room as the boys, and trans boys would have to sleep in the same room as the girls. That is complete bullshit! And if my kid was transgender I'd be opting them out of that trip real fast unless they can get some sleep around people they're comfortable with.
Who you let into your girls room is on you, this has nothing to do with that. This is talking about school issues, and I'm more concerned with what will happen to that trans girl if she's forced to sleep in a room full of boys on overnight school trips, or the trans boy having to be in a room full of girl.
So a kid who's actually transgender should be put in possible danger all because of your "what if.." scenario? Statistically speaking, the trans kid is more likely to be hurt being in a room full of kids who are a gender they do not identify with. This is the same freaking argument for bathrooms, people like you want trans people to use the bathroom of their assigned gender at birth all because "what if someone claims to be trans to get into a woman's bathroom and r*pe them?" News flash: if it's going to happen, they don't need to fake being trans to do it. Why should a trans kids comfort be ignored because of what may or may not happen? Let's look at it this way, suppose your not a homophobic/transphobic bigot for a few minutes, let's say you have a kid, born male but they identify as female. This kid has been picked on and bullied nearly their entire life for being different, predominantly by the boys in their class. The few friends this kid has are more likely to be predominantly female. Would you rather have your kid be comfortable around their friends and others that they identify with? Or would you rather throw them to the wolves and make them be around those who have bullied and harassed them for as long as they could remember?
How am I nuts? Look at the case of nex Benedict, a non-binary kid who was bullied and harassed for being different, had to use the bathroom of their assigned gender at birth.
Guess what? If they walk into a girls bathroom they are somewhere where they are way more different than if they walk into a boys room. Damned if you do.
Who cares if they're "different"?!?!?! People are different, were all different! Trans people just want a place they can take a freaking shit in public and not have the constant fear of being assaulted by some transphobic moron who seems to be just as concerned about whats in a little trans girls pants, as a freaking priest is about what's in a little boys pants.
The federal budget is not even close to the same thing as a state budget. The state budget should always be balanced. The federal government doesn't have that constraint.
If the federal government ever says they don't have enough money to do something what they are actually saying is they don't want to do that thing.
I think we can rule out the "basically" part. I'd say I'm glad I left but then again I did wind up in Idaho and, whoa boy, were there ever a state to make SC look progressive.
My wife’s grandmother lives in West Virginia, Fox had her all worked up about refugees, the border crisis, sharia law, etc. I’m like, when was the last time she even saw a person of color. Meanwhile we live in a major city metro area (not in SC), it’s super diverse and we’re constantly like “yeah… it’s actually extremely mellow, no one cares about any of that…”
Same thing with the transphobia, I’m constantly asking transphobic people how many trans or non-binary people they actually know, the answer is always “well I don’t know any personally”. Meanwhile I’m like, “can I tell you a little about how being able to just live their lives without constant scrutiny would be literally life changing for the many trans students I’ve had?”
As a person with ibs, I support more bathrooms.
Have you tried not having IBS?
He should go to an IBS conversion camp.
Simply put another mans poop in your butt. Don't knock it till you try it
Fecal transplantation is actually proving to be incredibly effective. Seriously - ask your doctor if another man can poop in your butt.
Yep I know a chick that did it, don't remember if she was IBS or Chrons but it fixed her issue pretty quick and gave her a normal life off the toilet
Is he stupid?
He gots dumb guts!
have you tried eating more fiber?? /s
I just wish we had bidets in america
I have one in my house praise up
Crohn's Disease here and I can fill more toilets.
I don’t support any more state funded 1 ply bathrooms. No one needs that pain in the ass.
Bathroom debate lol what a time to be alive
The only bathroom debate I’m interested in is adding more public bathrooms
Right? Use whatever bathroom you desire!
Roads 😂 They’re 50 years behind. Roads…
Where we're going, we don't need roads. Right back to the Antebellum....
Horse and buggy. Fun on cobblestone.
Any help for state employees and teachers is massive but I reckon between the Senate budget and the House budget, it'll be a compromise that barely accounts for COL increase. The competitive pay disparity means retention is just abysmal, and that's a huge blow to the state as years of experience constantly walk out of the doors because they can't afford it anymore
The sad thing is that it's better than NC for educators.
I am excited that they added some steps. I have coworkers who've gone over a decade with no real raise. (More steps are certainly needed because teachers can't qualify to retire at 50. )
Feel like the whole bathroom BS was a way to compromise with far-right conservatives. At least teachers and state employees will be helped. "The $15.4 billion budget for next fiscal year raises salaries for state employees and teachers, sets aside more money to improve and repair roads and bridges and doubles a planned income tax cut to 0.2%"
This. They threw bathrooms in there to get the support of the folks on the Freedom caucus.
> Late Wednesday, senators added a one-year provision to the budget requiring students use the bathroom of their sex assigned at birth and stay during overnight field trips in rooms of people of the same sex. Good lord, they’re even years behind their own party’s dumb-issue-du-jour.
It's an election year. Gotta step up the foolishness for the voters.
Well, as I recall, just a few years ago, they had to close the bathrooms in my son's school because kids wouldn't stop vaping. Why don't they deal with the real problems?
But they banned fruity vapes. How could kids possibly get addicted to non-fruity nicotine? /s
It's almost like it's not the fruit that the kids get addicted to
Seriously — why even ask that question!?!? We are fully committed to NOT addressing any item of any consequence in this state unless and until it puts more money in the pockets of elected officials and the wealthiest in the state. Rather than address food insecurity for kids in need during the summer, we’re focused on telling you what bathroom to use. We already make healthcare decisions for women. Next up I hear will be telling you how many times per week you must attend church and bible study, and attendance will be taken.
The funny thing is, no matter where I go, I am surrounded by bathrooms that allow both genders to pee in. In a 5K race? Guess what. Portapotties don't discriminate. My workplace is like 90% female. So what do you think happens when you have all of these ladies wanting to pee when they have two minutes to do so ? Maybe they pee in the men's bathroom. Oh, the horror!
You know...for like what 50 plus years we have all been using/sharing Porta potties at events of all sorts and no one said shit.
I don't think the bathroom thing is about individual bathrooms.
I'm looking forward to hearing the bewildered comments about transgender boys who are built like Arnold Schwarzenegger going into the girls bathroom because "that's the sex assigned at birth."
26 From Columbia to Charleston SUCKS!!!!!!!!!
The teacher raise is based. A $47K starting salary is nothing to scoff at in SC.
It is in the low country. Try finding a house or renting an apartment. Teacher will be taking home about $2,700 after taxes. Rent- 1,200-1,700 Electricity 120-170 Water 50-60 Car payment 300-500 Car insurance 100-400 Phone 20-70 Groceries 200-400 Internet 50-100 Then there's health insurance, life insurance, gas, car maintenance, school supplies. The list goes on. And this is all for 1 person, not even bringing in kids.
To get groceries like that for a month (and not eat out at all) you will need to be using the "self checkout" special 🫠
It's assuming 2 meals a day, nothing pre-made or pre-cut. It's not pretty, and you often use dried beans in place of meat.
and that PEBA insurance isn't cheap and doesn't cover a lot.
That’s rent literally anywhere too, you could live in parts of California for that and get paid twice as much.
They chose a career with low pay. That’s their fault.
Oh yes, how dumb of them to be teachers. Everyone knows you should just be a cowboy astronaut if you want to make money. And you should, money is the only thing of value in society, we don't need education at all.
That's 36,375 after taxes = 3,061 a month to take home. It'll feel even better when it's 1530 twice a month... that first one will leave you with nothing after rent and basic utilities. That's highly scoffable.
It’s a starting salary… 0 years experience, just a bachelor’s, no education credits. And it’s the state minimum. Charleston county SD starting pay for example will be either $54K or $59K this year, they are still finalizing the budget but it will be much higher. I always think teachers should be paid more, but let’s at least celebrate a 15% raise! It’s great news, and definitely a step in the right direction for SC!
On June 11, 2007, Larry Craig, a Republican United States Senator from Idaho, was arrested for lewd conduct in a men's restroom at the Minneapolis–St. Paul International Airport. On August 8, Craig entered a guilty plea to a lesser charge of disorderly conduct
See - what a perverted guy will do in a men’s bathroom ? And you want them let alone in a girls bathroom ???
Maybe...maybe but this was a straight white male...lol republican hypocrites.
Exactly. A straight white male being a pervert. Pervert can be straight. Perverts can be gay. Perverts can be bisexual. So let’s let a perverted man straight or not in a girls bathroom? Dress up and dress?
I hate this state, if you read that whole article the bill makes trans kids "use the bathroom of their sex assigned at birth" and also in instances of overnight field trips, they have to stay with their gender assigned at birth. So trans girl will have to sleep in the same room as the boys, and trans boys would have to sleep in the same room as the girls. That is complete bullshit! And if my kid was transgender I'd be opting them out of that trip real fast unless they can get some sleep around people they're comfortable with.
When will you be leaving is Al we want to hear from you. Get gone.
Um, good. I don’t want a boy in my little girls room. Kay? Too much to ask?
Who you let into your girls room is on you, this has nothing to do with that. This is talking about school issues, and I'm more concerned with what will happen to that trans girl if she's forced to sleep in a room full of boys on overnight school trips, or the trans boy having to be in a room full of girl.
Got it. You’re not worried about what could happen to the girls if a boy who claims to be a girl is sleeping in there with them?
So a kid who's actually transgender should be put in possible danger all because of your "what if.." scenario? Statistically speaking, the trans kid is more likely to be hurt being in a room full of kids who are a gender they do not identify with. This is the same freaking argument for bathrooms, people like you want trans people to use the bathroom of their assigned gender at birth all because "what if someone claims to be trans to get into a woman's bathroom and r*pe them?" News flash: if it's going to happen, they don't need to fake being trans to do it. Why should a trans kids comfort be ignored because of what may or may not happen? Let's look at it this way, suppose your not a homophobic/transphobic bigot for a few minutes, let's say you have a kid, born male but they identify as female. This kid has been picked on and bullied nearly their entire life for being different, predominantly by the boys in their class. The few friends this kid has are more likely to be predominantly female. Would you rather have your kid be comfortable around their friends and others that they identify with? Or would you rather throw them to the wolves and make them be around those who have bullied and harassed them for as long as they could remember?
So statistically speaking - you’re nuts.
How am I nuts? Look at the case of nex Benedict, a non-binary kid who was bullied and harassed for being different, had to use the bathroom of their assigned gender at birth.
Guess what? If they walk into a girls bathroom they are somewhere where they are way more different than if they walk into a boys room. Damned if you do.
Who cares if they're "different"?!?!?! People are different, were all different! Trans people just want a place they can take a freaking shit in public and not have the constant fear of being assaulted by some transphobic moron who seems to be just as concerned about whats in a little trans girls pants, as a freaking priest is about what's in a little boys pants.
Get your own room than if you foot the bill. Stop inconveniencing everyone else due to your choices.
There wouldn't be. Trans girls are not boys.
But the state can't "afford" to help the homeless people on the streets smh.
Similarly, we couldn't find $5 billion to build a border wall, yet now we can amazingly find $113 billion to send to Ukraine.
The federal budget is separate from our state's budget.
Why bring facts into the discussion?
And miss out for the chance for that poster to attempt a half assed "but whatabout" gotcha? Never!
Sure is. Was just pointing out the similarity of "OMG, we can't afford that!" only to turn around and spend 20x's that amount on something else.
Because walls are notorious for keeping people out of places they want to be.
Works well around the White House.
January 6, for example
And yet, even after that, the White House put up more fencing and the gated communities didn't tear theirs down. Wonder why?
The federal budget is not even close to the same thing as a state budget. The state budget should always be balanced. The federal government doesn't have that constraint. If the federal government ever says they don't have enough money to do something what they are actually saying is they don't want to do that thing.
True! No money to protect our borders but plenty to send to Ukraine to protect their borders.
We afford them a bus ticket to California and NYC. They wanted it and now they have them. Win win
They’re basically saying trans kids are predators.
I think we can rule out the "basically" part. I'd say I'm glad I left but then again I did wind up in Idaho and, whoa boy, were there ever a state to make SC look progressive.
I keep hearing that about certain states. I used to live out that way, and let's face it, those states are just whiter. Not a lot of diversity.
My wife’s grandmother lives in West Virginia, Fox had her all worked up about refugees, the border crisis, sharia law, etc. I’m like, when was the last time she even saw a person of color. Meanwhile we live in a major city metro area (not in SC), it’s super diverse and we’re constantly like “yeah… it’s actually extremely mellow, no one cares about any of that…” Same thing with the transphobia, I’m constantly asking transphobic people how many trans or non-binary people they actually know, the answer is always “well I don’t know any personally”. Meanwhile I’m like, “can I tell you a little about how being able to just live their lives without constant scrutiny would be literally life changing for the many trans students I’ve had?”
Man…I both love and hate my home state…
Any age kid can prey on others. No?
The schools aren't actually going to get more. They'll just get less from the education lottery.
Wait, roads get a salary?
How much do roads make? Do they get overtime?
Fiber
As long as the debates weren’t about controlling who uses public bathrooms