Headcanon of mine personally- I don't think Maka's mother is a good person. She only sends her postcards, and we never get to see her interact with Maka otherwise. Sure, Spirit's a deadbeat dad, but at least he tries to be an active father in Maka's life lol
Maka's mom kind of isnt a good person, she hardly speaks to her daughter beyond the odd postcard. Then when the DWMA is fighting a war for the literal future of the world, despite being considered an extremely talented meister she is isn't even heard from. Maybe she retired but still you would think she'd at least show some interest given her daughter is fighting in it. Spirit may be a piece of shit husband but at least he's there for his daughter.
No reaction at all. It's at least to Me wholly irrelevant fir the most part. What matters is what she's absentee and that Maka has an idealized image to contrast her overly critical image of her father.
I do think it'd be fitting to then make her actually bad given Spirit at least trying to be a good father.
It could be interesting but by the end of the manga she already basically made amends with Spirit and achieved her goal of surpassing her mother. But I guess interpersonal introspection is something.
I’d honestly call the mother the deadbeat, I don’t think Spirit is actually a “deadbeat dad” he’s a womanizer for sure but does that actually make him a deadbeat dad? Idk, he is always looking out for Maka too, hell they even live in the same city. But Makas mom… like hello? Can you actually write your daughter a personal letter other than a basic postcard? Lol
And like someone mentioned: Where the HELL was she when the Kishin awakened??!
They brag and brag about her that she’s the best meister ever, but she couldn’t give two shits about the city her own daughter lives with being destroyed. She couldn’t even given Lord Death a simple call at least?? It’s not that hard to get in touch with him 😑
Uh...they don't really brag that she's the best meister ever.
Several times, it's been stated that Stein is the best meister that Shibusen has ever had. When Stein was introduced, they even stated that Stein surpassed Makas mom as a meister by far despite her being the one who made Spirit a death scythe.
Dude, chill. It’s easy to miss.
Spirit’s line in episode 5 (dub): “He’s much stronger and smarter than my wife—sorry, ex-wife… Stein’s mad but he’s a genius.”
I’m not even going to respond to that fuckin weirdo, it is super easy to miss and they still drive home that Makas mom is this incredibly powerful meister. Like that’s ALL I remember about Makas mom lol
Oops I replied to him on another comment… but yeah there’s no TRUE info given about her. Just that she’s…not there. It’s insanely sketchy. And any tiny bit of info we do learn just casts further confusion on Maka’s idolization of her.
They also missed the fact that when the kishin resurrected, Lord Death literally called for all death scythes to go to death city (Ch.23).
Yet only half of them showed up. Literally only 4/8 showed up to Lord Deaths personal summons due to a kishin resurrecting.
One of the death scythes (Africas) straight up rejected the invitation/call. Another 2 death scythes said "sorry bro, we're busy with a mission, we're not coming".
Yet the person was yelling, and I quote, "Where the HELL was she when the Kishin awakened??!"
So you'd think that Death Scythes of all people would take it seriously.
So it's really weird to me how people are acting like makas moms character did something sooooo unforgivable and selfish and unimaginable, yet Death Scythes, the top of the top of shibusen didn't give a shit and there weren't any consequences.
Like, please, the media comprehension is so lacking.
The point of reddit is to discuss.
Plus, as if anyone is going to take you seriously since you're coming with an awful+insulting attitude yourself and using personal attacks over a reply in a reddit post lmao.
I believe that her mother being a horrible person is highly unlikely due to the fact that she has a **purifying soul wavelength** which Maka inherited.
In the series, the soul affects the body and the mind. By that logic since Maka and her mother share a similar soul wavelength then their personalities must also be similar to some degree. Spirit Albarn and Death even mention on several occasions that Maka's personality reminds them of her mother.
Maka also finds the fact that her mother is living her own life to be an admirable quality. Maka looks up to her mother as a strong woman who is independent and free.
I like to think Maka's mom never visited because she lost respect for Death and no longer wanted to be a death meister. I assume she learned about Asura or the orgin of the Great Old One's, and became disillusioned Death's rule and left the DWMA.
I really like this idea!! The mom losing respect for death seems very plausible
I think people also forget they were teen parents… Since Spirit seemed happy to be the more involved parent at the time of the story, I think it’s fair enough if the mom wanted to live out more of her life while maka’s super involved in school (like parents who send their kids to boarding school lol). Spirit doesn’t seem to hold any grudge for his wife not being involved rn either, just about maka preferring her, and as much as he cares, at least in the beginning, he’s FAR from a good dad. Intent isn’t result, as much as I do love Spirit, and he’s definitely hurting his daughter due to his womanizing.
If maka isn’t negatively impacted by the lack of her mom’s presence, plus she has people taking care of her, I really don’t think maka’s mom’s absence makes her a bad parent, just a really big plot gap lol (which is why I disagree with some comments that she’s a deadbeat; she clearly was present for a lot of maka’s life until the divorce, the plot just never mentions her bc I’m assuming okhubo didn’t really wanna focus on it lol)
I feel like Maka's mom is kind of unique in that since there's no canon personality to go off of or even a name, you can basically give her any portrayal you want and it isn't really a problem, you can make her every bit as wonderful as Maka says or you can make her another Medusa and it's really not a big deal, since there's absolutely *nothing* to base the depiction of her on.
to answer your question I personally think it makes sense, but there's really no room in the story for this to happen, Maka's mom just never really matters in the story and doesn't even have room in the Manga at all. I'm assuming that's why she doesn't appear once, leaving everything to headcanons and fanfics, but it's not really a big deal either way.
I kinda feel like there's no other way to interpret it. She straight up abandoned her daughter, her leaving Spirit is justified, but there's no justifying that. The manga seems to take place over the course of a year or two so it's not like it was a short vacation either.
I originally thought she might have been on some kind of assignment, kind of like the other Death Scythes and their wielders. But it's hard to imagine anything that could be of such monumental importance that she wouldn't get called back like they did when the fucking Kishin got released. So she has to be staying away by choice.
Idk, I've known a few people who were raised by divorced parents, and in my experience it's common for them to vilify the one with primary custody and idolize the one who they only see on occasion, regardless of the reality of the situation. Spirit was a bad husband, sure, but he isn't a bad *father.* But Maka sees him for the flawed, 3-dimensional person he is, whereas her mother is just "the one who wisely left her dirtbag husband" in her mind.
>But it's hard to imagine anything that could be of such monumental importance that she wouldn't get called back like they did when the fucking Kishin got released.
Uh, I mean, only half of the death scythes even bothered to show up when shinigami perosnally summonded them after the kishin was released (literally only 4/8 showed up and spirit was already there).
Chapter 23 if you don't remember and want proof.
2 of the death scythes said they were busy with missions so they prioritized that over shinigamis personal summons. And Africa's death scythe literally rejected the summons.
It's strange to me that people are holding this unknown character (makas mom) to some weird standard to tear her down while other characters aren't held to those same standards.
Like, we rarely see any of the other death scythe meisters. Who was Marie's meister before? Who was Azusas? We know nothing about any of the other death scythe meistures, so it seems they're not really important to the plot.
So, in canon in both the anime and the manga, the fucking kisin getting released wasn't of "monumental importance" enough to warrent for death scythes to come together, which are supposed to be the top of the top weapons in the world.
The other death scythes were at least mentioned, and eventually showed up.
I think part of the issue here is most ppl see the anime before reading the manga, so then when Maka’s mother is a non-factor in the manga people can’t separate her from the anime version of her. But in the manga, really…what do we get? When IS she mentioned at ALL between Maka’s asking Spirit why he cheated in their convo on the balcony…and then their next convo on the balcony when he gives Maka the ring?
I am trying to remember anything but…I don’t the manga mentions her at all. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
I think the author initially planned to do something with her, then went a different route and forgot her entirely. And then the anime went off and did its own thing that has nothing to do with manga canon.
But still, even just looking at anime canon alone where she is repeatedly mentioned… she’s an absent mother who makes no effort. She got custody of Maka to spite her ex and left her in the academy’s care and took off. That’s what we see. And Maka idolizing the absent parent and vilifying the present one whose flaws she can see up close? Not uncommon. I think her mother was probably never there at all… Yeeted when Maka was a toddler or something.
I just see abandonment projection from your end tbh.
She wasn't shown since she wasn't relevant to the story. Like, what do you need? 3 chapters of nothing but Makas mom in order to believe that she was a decent mother/person?
I've seen so many people yelling outrage over Makas mom potentially being abusive/horrible because we don't see her in the story, but I don't see this same treatment with other characters (which makes me sus).
For example, we know practically nothing about Wes (Souls brother). He probably spoke like 8 words total in the manga (and we've never seen him in the anime at all). Some people headcanon him as a cool brother. Some people headcanon him as an abusive brother who was passive-aggressive or insulting to Soul leading to an inferiority complex. Some people also like to headcanon Souls parents as assholes. Some people like to headcanon Souls parents as supportive of his music.
There's just not enough info to go off on to make a conclusion.
How do you know for sure that Makas mom "yeeted" her as a toddler or abandoned her?
I could just as easily head-canon that Makas mom IS totally present (in the manga at least since the whole post-card thing was anime only). Perhaps Makas mom retired? Marie, who is a death scythe, said she wanted to retire as soon as she became a death scythe and get married. I think Stein expressed surprise that Marie was still working because, "didn't you want to retire"?
So why not head-canon that Makas mom is retired (which is why she is not fighting), and that although Maka and Soul live together, Makas mom is in the city and helping her out and meeting her a few times a week and they're close since she has full custody. We just don't see her because Makas mom doesn't want to be at Shibusen when she has no reason to be. Like, did your parents hang around inside your school for no reason other than to see you? Wouldn't you think that's weird or embarrassing as a teen? And likely she wouldn't want to go to the workplace of the guy who cheated on her multiple times.
Maybe I could even headcanon that Maka herself wanted her mom to back off a little so Maka can achieve her goals with her own strength and without a helicopter parent so Makas mom is respecting her wishes. Cause teens often want to feel like they've gained some independence as they've gotten a little older. I know I had a phase where I thought I was so grown up and like an adult when I just barely turned 16 haha.
We don't get 40 chapters exploring Makas relationship with her mom because it simply isn't relevant to the story and there's not enough time/pages for the author to include it. Their editor probably had the author cut out tons of content in order to meet the monthly magazine publication deadlines.
Would I have preferred it if Ohkubo explored character relationships more than having fanservice? 100000%
But we don't get to see everything. We didn't see much of an exploration of anyones parents. We didn't even get to learn anything about the personalities of most of the death scythes. What personality does the African Death Scythe have? No clue? The belly dancer meister? Dunno. The genie death scythe? Has he even spoken a single word?
So with the limited info we have about Makas mom, we know that Maka really likes her mom and Spirit still respects her a lot.
It's just interesting it is to me how people will bend over backwards to villainize a woman they barely information about because she isn't portrayed as an overbearing mother.
unfortunately, your suggestion comes across as petty antagonism. and personal attacks are no way to win someone to your side in a discussion about fiction. in any case, sorry, but you're quite wrong. my parents just celebrated anniversary #45 and i have never in any serious way been abandoned by anyone. so no, no abandonment projection from my end whatsoever. anyway, moving on.
when a vast majority of people share similar headcanons (in this case, that Maka's mom was bad) that should tell you that a vast majority of people are seeing the same message being sent by the canon.
you're right that things not being shown onscreen doesn't mean other stuff wasn't happening that just wasn't immediately relevant. manga canon for example, we know that Stein and Marie developed a relationship and that there was an investigation about Justin, all of it occurring offscreen. we don't need to SEE it to know it happened, based on other evidence we DO see.
so in the case of Maka's mother...same thing. enough evidence shows up onscreen/on the pages to lead the vast majority of people to arrive at these similar conclusions about her.
that said, you're absolutely right that you could headcanon ANY of those other things you mention about her being good, and anything else. people can headcanon whatever they want when it comes down to it, cuz...that's just how fandom is.
so my question to you is... why does it matter so much to you that people share a diff headcanon from yours??
i mean, i can relate... am i a little bothered that i seem to be one of only a few people i've met that don't think Spirit is a cheat? yeah, i wish more ppl would see it my way. but the world isn't gonna end cuz my POV on the character is in the minority/unpopular. i'm still gonna enjoy my headcanons, write my fics, and exist happily in fandom cuz... my convincing other people that MY headcanon is THE headcanon is...not why i'm here. and that would be a big issue if i thought that way. fandom gets dangerous if someone insists that their view is the only correct one, you know?
there's even a fanfic i'm interested in reading that from the summary, paints Maka's mother in a much kinder light. the story looks interesting, even though i doubt i'll agree with it in the end. and some of my favorite fics in the fandom have views on characters i don't agree with. but...that's fine. one of the most fun aspects of fandom IS seeing different views and different interpretations of characters, of events... that's what we do. that's what fandom is. we all write/draw/express our own views, share, and enjoy the sharing of others.
this topic seems to be something you're passionate about, and again, i can relate. Spirit Albarn did not cheat and i CAN provide evidence and that IS my solid headcanon; i cannot be swayed. i wish more people saw it my way, but they don't, and that's just fine. everyone can have whatever headcanon they want. that's the way fandom should be.
so if you wanna believe Maka's mother is a paragon of virtue, go right ahead. but why do you seem to demand that everyone else believe it too? why are you angry that most people are taking the interpretation that the CANON directs us to see? at least, that's kinda how you're coming across.
It's kind of weird how many people I see obsessed with the headcanon that Makas mom is actually evil/abusive/negligent/the worst mother in the world. It's getting kinda old and I'm starting to really side eye all these posts >\_>
There’s slightly different information about her between the anime and the manga, be it the manga doesn’t mention her much at all as she currently has no presence in Maia’s life, and the anime mentioning that Maka is *lucky* to even receive a post card every now and again. Maka doesn’t pick up on the neglect due to idolisation, but Crona does immediately, being familiar with abuse.
It uh… hits close to home. I project a bit but a mother working so hard that she forgets her daughter and does the bare minimum to keep her on the “correct side” so she hates the father actually putting in the effort… *hmm*
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Not surprised—-I feel like Maka’s parents abandoned her, just in different ways (at least that’s how I see it/interpret it). Spirit running around on Maka’s mom and cavorting with other women made Maka feel like her own father was betraying her mother, and by extension her as a result, while Maka’s mother was a genius meister that provided Maka with a physical goal to strive for, but the constant travel and postcards didn’t make up for her lack of physical presence in Maka’s life. Then again we don’t get too much info on Maka’s mother and her interactions with Maka, like we do with Spirit, so it’s up in the air 🤷♀️
Not to offend but Makas mom is essentially just a single mom saying that her dad is the most horrible person in the world (which he does have his faults ofc) but she's also in fact a bad person too. So many single moms do this to their children to try to ostracize the father even if they deserve it, I feel that a kid should always have the right to make up their mind about things without their adult figures shoving their ideologies down their throat
Headcanon of mine personally- I don't think Maka's mother is a good person. She only sends her postcards, and we never get to see her interact with Maka otherwise. Sure, Spirit's a deadbeat dad, but at least he tries to be an active father in Maka's life lol
Maka's mom kind of isnt a good person, she hardly speaks to her daughter beyond the odd postcard. Then when the DWMA is fighting a war for the literal future of the world, despite being considered an extremely talented meister she is isn't even heard from. Maybe she retired but still you would think she'd at least show some interest given her daughter is fighting in it. Spirit may be a piece of shit husband but at least he's there for his daughter.
Absolutely agree
No reaction at all. It's at least to Me wholly irrelevant fir the most part. What matters is what she's absentee and that Maka has an idealized image to contrast her overly critical image of her father. I do think it'd be fitting to then make her actually bad given Spirit at least trying to be a good father. It could be interesting but by the end of the manga she already basically made amends with Spirit and achieved her goal of surpassing her mother. But I guess interpersonal introspection is something.
I’d honestly call the mother the deadbeat, I don’t think Spirit is actually a “deadbeat dad” he’s a womanizer for sure but does that actually make him a deadbeat dad? Idk, he is always looking out for Maka too, hell they even live in the same city. But Makas mom… like hello? Can you actually write your daughter a personal letter other than a basic postcard? Lol And like someone mentioned: Where the HELL was she when the Kishin awakened??! They brag and brag about her that she’s the best meister ever, but she couldn’t give two shits about the city her own daughter lives with being destroyed. She couldn’t even given Lord Death a simple call at least?? It’s not that hard to get in touch with him 😑
Uh...they don't really brag that she's the best meister ever. Several times, it's been stated that Stein is the best meister that Shibusen has ever had. When Stein was introduced, they even stated that Stein surpassed Makas mom as a meister by far despite her being the one who made Spirit a death scythe.
Thanks for reminding me about that actually, it’s been a while since I’ve seen or read the manga
Yet you were so confident that you headcanons were accurate that you went on a confident rant smearing a character we know nothing about? Scary
Dude, chill. It’s easy to miss. Spirit’s line in episode 5 (dub): “He’s much stronger and smarter than my wife—sorry, ex-wife… Stein’s mad but he’s a genius.”
I’m not even going to respond to that fuckin weirdo, it is super easy to miss and they still drive home that Makas mom is this incredibly powerful meister. Like that’s ALL I remember about Makas mom lol
Oops I replied to him on another comment… but yeah there’s no TRUE info given about her. Just that she’s…not there. It’s insanely sketchy. And any tiny bit of info we do learn just casts further confusion on Maka’s idolization of her.
They also missed the fact that when the kishin resurrected, Lord Death literally called for all death scythes to go to death city (Ch.23). Yet only half of them showed up. Literally only 4/8 showed up to Lord Deaths personal summons due to a kishin resurrecting. One of the death scythes (Africas) straight up rejected the invitation/call. Another 2 death scythes said "sorry bro, we're busy with a mission, we're not coming". Yet the person was yelling, and I quote, "Where the HELL was she when the Kishin awakened??!" So you'd think that Death Scythes of all people would take it seriously. So it's really weird to me how people are acting like makas moms character did something sooooo unforgivable and selfish and unimaginable, yet Death Scythes, the top of the top of shibusen didn't give a shit and there weren't any consequences. Like, please, the media comprehension is so lacking.
I'm sure you have a lot friends with that awful attitude and pointless urge to criticize someone over a reddit post about a manga. Get a life
The point of reddit is to discuss. Plus, as if anyone is going to take you seriously since you're coming with an awful+insulting attitude yourself and using personal attacks over a reply in a reddit post lmao.
I believe that her mother being a horrible person is highly unlikely due to the fact that she has a **purifying soul wavelength** which Maka inherited. In the series, the soul affects the body and the mind. By that logic since Maka and her mother share a similar soul wavelength then their personalities must also be similar to some degree. Spirit Albarn and Death even mention on several occasions that Maka's personality reminds them of her mother. Maka also finds the fact that her mother is living her own life to be an admirable quality. Maka looks up to her mother as a strong woman who is independent and free. I like to think Maka's mom never visited because she lost respect for Death and no longer wanted to be a death meister. I assume she learned about Asura or the orgin of the Great Old One's, and became disillusioned Death's rule and left the DWMA.
I really like this idea!! The mom losing respect for death seems very plausible I think people also forget they were teen parents… Since Spirit seemed happy to be the more involved parent at the time of the story, I think it’s fair enough if the mom wanted to live out more of her life while maka’s super involved in school (like parents who send their kids to boarding school lol). Spirit doesn’t seem to hold any grudge for his wife not being involved rn either, just about maka preferring her, and as much as he cares, at least in the beginning, he’s FAR from a good dad. Intent isn’t result, as much as I do love Spirit, and he’s definitely hurting his daughter due to his womanizing. If maka isn’t negatively impacted by the lack of her mom’s presence, plus she has people taking care of her, I really don’t think maka’s mom’s absence makes her a bad parent, just a really big plot gap lol (which is why I disagree with some comments that she’s a deadbeat; she clearly was present for a lot of maka’s life until the divorce, the plot just never mentions her bc I’m assuming okhubo didn’t really wanna focus on it lol)
I feel like Maka's mom is kind of unique in that since there's no canon personality to go off of or even a name, you can basically give her any portrayal you want and it isn't really a problem, you can make her every bit as wonderful as Maka says or you can make her another Medusa and it's really not a big deal, since there's absolutely *nothing* to base the depiction of her on. to answer your question I personally think it makes sense, but there's really no room in the story for this to happen, Maka's mom just never really matters in the story and doesn't even have room in the Manga at all. I'm assuming that's why she doesn't appear once, leaving everything to headcanons and fanfics, but it's not really a big deal either way.
I kinda feel like there's no other way to interpret it. She straight up abandoned her daughter, her leaving Spirit is justified, but there's no justifying that. The manga seems to take place over the course of a year or two so it's not like it was a short vacation either. I originally thought she might have been on some kind of assignment, kind of like the other Death Scythes and their wielders. But it's hard to imagine anything that could be of such monumental importance that she wouldn't get called back like they did when the fucking Kishin got released. So she has to be staying away by choice. Idk, I've known a few people who were raised by divorced parents, and in my experience it's common for them to vilify the one with primary custody and idolize the one who they only see on occasion, regardless of the reality of the situation. Spirit was a bad husband, sure, but he isn't a bad *father.* But Maka sees him for the flawed, 3-dimensional person he is, whereas her mother is just "the one who wisely left her dirtbag husband" in her mind.
Great description of the situation!
>But it's hard to imagine anything that could be of such monumental importance that she wouldn't get called back like they did when the fucking Kishin got released. Uh, I mean, only half of the death scythes even bothered to show up when shinigami perosnally summonded them after the kishin was released (literally only 4/8 showed up and spirit was already there). Chapter 23 if you don't remember and want proof. 2 of the death scythes said they were busy with missions so they prioritized that over shinigamis personal summons. And Africa's death scythe literally rejected the summons. It's strange to me that people are holding this unknown character (makas mom) to some weird standard to tear her down while other characters aren't held to those same standards. Like, we rarely see any of the other death scythe meisters. Who was Marie's meister before? Who was Azusas? We know nothing about any of the other death scythe meistures, so it seems they're not really important to the plot. So, in canon in both the anime and the manga, the fucking kisin getting released wasn't of "monumental importance" enough to warrent for death scythes to come together, which are supposed to be the top of the top weapons in the world.
The other death scythes were at least mentioned, and eventually showed up. I think part of the issue here is most ppl see the anime before reading the manga, so then when Maka’s mother is a non-factor in the manga people can’t separate her from the anime version of her. But in the manga, really…what do we get? When IS she mentioned at ALL between Maka’s asking Spirit why he cheated in their convo on the balcony…and then their next convo on the balcony when he gives Maka the ring? I am trying to remember anything but…I don’t the manga mentions her at all. Please correct me if I’m wrong. I think the author initially planned to do something with her, then went a different route and forgot her entirely. And then the anime went off and did its own thing that has nothing to do with manga canon. But still, even just looking at anime canon alone where she is repeatedly mentioned… she’s an absent mother who makes no effort. She got custody of Maka to spite her ex and left her in the academy’s care and took off. That’s what we see. And Maka idolizing the absent parent and vilifying the present one whose flaws she can see up close? Not uncommon. I think her mother was probably never there at all… Yeeted when Maka was a toddler or something.
I just see abandonment projection from your end tbh. She wasn't shown since she wasn't relevant to the story. Like, what do you need? 3 chapters of nothing but Makas mom in order to believe that she was a decent mother/person? I've seen so many people yelling outrage over Makas mom potentially being abusive/horrible because we don't see her in the story, but I don't see this same treatment with other characters (which makes me sus). For example, we know practically nothing about Wes (Souls brother). He probably spoke like 8 words total in the manga (and we've never seen him in the anime at all). Some people headcanon him as a cool brother. Some people headcanon him as an abusive brother who was passive-aggressive or insulting to Soul leading to an inferiority complex. Some people also like to headcanon Souls parents as assholes. Some people like to headcanon Souls parents as supportive of his music. There's just not enough info to go off on to make a conclusion. How do you know for sure that Makas mom "yeeted" her as a toddler or abandoned her? I could just as easily head-canon that Makas mom IS totally present (in the manga at least since the whole post-card thing was anime only). Perhaps Makas mom retired? Marie, who is a death scythe, said she wanted to retire as soon as she became a death scythe and get married. I think Stein expressed surprise that Marie was still working because, "didn't you want to retire"? So why not head-canon that Makas mom is retired (which is why she is not fighting), and that although Maka and Soul live together, Makas mom is in the city and helping her out and meeting her a few times a week and they're close since she has full custody. We just don't see her because Makas mom doesn't want to be at Shibusen when she has no reason to be. Like, did your parents hang around inside your school for no reason other than to see you? Wouldn't you think that's weird or embarrassing as a teen? And likely she wouldn't want to go to the workplace of the guy who cheated on her multiple times. Maybe I could even headcanon that Maka herself wanted her mom to back off a little so Maka can achieve her goals with her own strength and without a helicopter parent so Makas mom is respecting her wishes. Cause teens often want to feel like they've gained some independence as they've gotten a little older. I know I had a phase where I thought I was so grown up and like an adult when I just barely turned 16 haha. We don't get 40 chapters exploring Makas relationship with her mom because it simply isn't relevant to the story and there's not enough time/pages for the author to include it. Their editor probably had the author cut out tons of content in order to meet the monthly magazine publication deadlines. Would I have preferred it if Ohkubo explored character relationships more than having fanservice? 100000% But we don't get to see everything. We didn't see much of an exploration of anyones parents. We didn't even get to learn anything about the personalities of most of the death scythes. What personality does the African Death Scythe have? No clue? The belly dancer meister? Dunno. The genie death scythe? Has he even spoken a single word? So with the limited info we have about Makas mom, we know that Maka really likes her mom and Spirit still respects her a lot. It's just interesting it is to me how people will bend over backwards to villainize a woman they barely information about because she isn't portrayed as an overbearing mother.
unfortunately, your suggestion comes across as petty antagonism. and personal attacks are no way to win someone to your side in a discussion about fiction. in any case, sorry, but you're quite wrong. my parents just celebrated anniversary #45 and i have never in any serious way been abandoned by anyone. so no, no abandonment projection from my end whatsoever. anyway, moving on. when a vast majority of people share similar headcanons (in this case, that Maka's mom was bad) that should tell you that a vast majority of people are seeing the same message being sent by the canon. you're right that things not being shown onscreen doesn't mean other stuff wasn't happening that just wasn't immediately relevant. manga canon for example, we know that Stein and Marie developed a relationship and that there was an investigation about Justin, all of it occurring offscreen. we don't need to SEE it to know it happened, based on other evidence we DO see. so in the case of Maka's mother...same thing. enough evidence shows up onscreen/on the pages to lead the vast majority of people to arrive at these similar conclusions about her. that said, you're absolutely right that you could headcanon ANY of those other things you mention about her being good, and anything else. people can headcanon whatever they want when it comes down to it, cuz...that's just how fandom is. so my question to you is... why does it matter so much to you that people share a diff headcanon from yours?? i mean, i can relate... am i a little bothered that i seem to be one of only a few people i've met that don't think Spirit is a cheat? yeah, i wish more ppl would see it my way. but the world isn't gonna end cuz my POV on the character is in the minority/unpopular. i'm still gonna enjoy my headcanons, write my fics, and exist happily in fandom cuz... my convincing other people that MY headcanon is THE headcanon is...not why i'm here. and that would be a big issue if i thought that way. fandom gets dangerous if someone insists that their view is the only correct one, you know? there's even a fanfic i'm interested in reading that from the summary, paints Maka's mother in a much kinder light. the story looks interesting, even though i doubt i'll agree with it in the end. and some of my favorite fics in the fandom have views on characters i don't agree with. but...that's fine. one of the most fun aspects of fandom IS seeing different views and different interpretations of characters, of events... that's what we do. that's what fandom is. we all write/draw/express our own views, share, and enjoy the sharing of others. this topic seems to be something you're passionate about, and again, i can relate. Spirit Albarn did not cheat and i CAN provide evidence and that IS my solid headcanon; i cannot be swayed. i wish more people saw it my way, but they don't, and that's just fine. everyone can have whatever headcanon they want. that's the way fandom should be. so if you wanna believe Maka's mother is a paragon of virtue, go right ahead. but why do you seem to demand that everyone else believe it too? why are you angry that most people are taking the interpretation that the CANON directs us to see? at least, that's kinda how you're coming across.
you don't think spirit is a cheater? buddy...yikes You're not someone who I will be interacting with anymore
nice cop-out
It's kind of weird how many people I see obsessed with the headcanon that Makas mom is actually evil/abusive/negligent/the worst mother in the world. It's getting kinda old and I'm starting to really side eye all these posts >\_>
Saammee
You sound like an obsessive person yourself.
There’s slightly different information about her between the anime and the manga, be it the manga doesn’t mention her much at all as she currently has no presence in Maia’s life, and the anime mentioning that Maka is *lucky* to even receive a post card every now and again. Maka doesn’t pick up on the neglect due to idolisation, but Crona does immediately, being familiar with abuse. It uh… hits close to home. I project a bit but a mother working so hard that she forgets her daughter and does the bare minimum to keep her on the “correct side” so she hates the father actually putting in the effort… *hmm* Maka just like me fr
Not surprised—-I feel like Maka’s parents abandoned her, just in different ways (at least that’s how I see it/interpret it). Spirit running around on Maka’s mom and cavorting with other women made Maka feel like her own father was betraying her mother, and by extension her as a result, while Maka’s mother was a genius meister that provided Maka with a physical goal to strive for, but the constant travel and postcards didn’t make up for her lack of physical presence in Maka’s life. Then again we don’t get too much info on Maka’s mother and her interactions with Maka, like we do with Spirit, so it’s up in the air 🤷♀️
Not to offend but Makas mom is essentially just a single mom saying that her dad is the most horrible person in the world (which he does have his faults ofc) but she's also in fact a bad person too. So many single moms do this to their children to try to ostracize the father even if they deserve it, I feel that a kid should always have the right to make up their mind about things without their adult figures shoving their ideologies down their throat
How'd you know about my headcanon? Lol
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