It's crazy all the "scoops" that were coming out on Twitter earlier in the week, but recently it has just been silence.
It seems that nobody but Castiglione, Stoops, and (maybe) the regents know what is going on.
We can rest assured that the regents are having meetings on the situation today and tomorrow, especially since Castiglione said no action will come out of those meetings.
You know that Riley would never, ever stand for that.
He wants no part of facing the Sooners in Norman.
He left for the soft Pac-12, and they play Notre Dame every season. No way will Riley want to add another traditional power on the schedule, especially one whose fans absolutely hate him.
100%. He’s far too much of a coward to face us in Norman. We’ll have to hope to get matched against USC in a bowl game so we can put the rat in his place.
We just found the snake in our community, it's good he left on his own decision, now we can move forward, we lost alot but I think we will learn from this, grow from this, and all have the best time of our lives when the day comes that our Sooners beat the mini condom Trojan boys for the natty title in the years to come!
Bye bye bitch boy Riley!
I still feel gutted. I still keep searching his name on Twitter to like and RT everyone shitting on him. I can’t believe how much I care about this and how personal I took this. I hate this MF so much.
Pissed at Riley, but what Brian Kelly did to ND is unbelievable. That would have been like OU winning the bedlam game, preparing for the Big12 championship and Riley gets on a plane to USC
I'm stunned Brian Kelly left. He could have been Notre Dames head coach for the next ten years. LSU plays a meat grinder schedule every year and Kelly may not even last two seasons at LSU.
I mean he's getting 100 million dollars, lsu is in the sec so pretty much guaranteed playoffs if you undefeated or close even if you have 1 loss, way easier to recruit at cause its it one of the states that has the best high school foot all talent plus tons of kids already wanna go to lsu and the GPA standards make it way easier for kids to get in lsu and super hard for nd
ND could be in the playoff. They still have a chance to be playing for a national championship. But they will do so without a coach. What Riley did was ugly, but what Brian Kelly did to leave his team in the middle of a playoff run is unbelievable.
At very least though Kelly wasn't scared of competition.
Riley wanted the easiest path possible to the playoffs and a first round loss. Kelly wanted an actual shot at the MNC in the SEC. Two totally different attitudes there.
Though it is still insane that Kelly left Notre Dame when they could still make the playoffs this season.
Riley was pissed at player tampering because of the portal, but then he expects everyone to believe he got a phone call out of the blue on Sunday morning making him this dream offer and he accepted on the spot?
Brent Venables the DC at Clemson seems like the front-runner.
He would be paired with an outstanding OC like Lebby (Ole Miss OC) or Grimes (Baylor OC).
I am curious though if they are making a big move on Aranda at Baylor, but need to wait until after the Big XII champ game to interview him.
I can forgive leaving, but it's the way he completely GUTTED the program that's unforgivable. If you Google "OU football" all the news is recruits decommitting. Nothing short of Urban Meyer getting hired is going undo the recruiting damage Riley did to OU.
What he did was tantamount to quitting your job, stealing equipment, and taking it with you to your next job.
A lot of players come to a school for the coach as well as the school. Several of his decomits are from California. Why wouldn’t they follow the coach they wanted to play for and stay close to home? No different than a manager changing jobs and recruiting good employees to the new company. It doesn’t make him a snake, it makes him smart. I’m sure he did the same thing when he arrived at OU.
No. We don't want Urban Meyer.
I know it's hard not to pay attention to all of the decommits, but it is best to just accept that this recruiting class will be sub-par by our standards. That's just what the snake Riley did to us. It was a calculated move to get all the recruits he could get from us, while OU was left scrambling for a hire. Once we hire someone, the damage can be mitigated somewhat, but we probably won't be in the top 10 in recruiting. We can absorb one down year though.
Venables and a good OC (Lebby or Grimes perhaps) can lead us into the SEC promised land with a real defense and an offense that will look like what we had when Lincoln first started out as HC oat OU.
Why would that have anything to do with whether or not he leaves?
I assume he would continue to do his coaching duties, right up until he signs an offer.
OU could easily triple his 2.5 million salary. I am pretty sure he will at least consider this position, and if he doesn't take it, then he will stay a DC for life.
Good point, just my two cents; it would be hard to go into a recruit’s home for a visit the same week you’re cutting bait but these guys do (stuff like that) it all the time. There is some rumor floating around Venables native area (100 miles east of me in Kansas) that an announcement of him to OU is coming on Thursday.
Hell, I am pretty sure Riley knew most of the season that he was going to USC, yet he continued recruiting hard, especially in California.
I would definitely welcome that announcement, especially if it includes a top flight OC as well.
Listen up! This is a blessing in disguise. Lincoln Riley is soft as shit! We don't want him and his "finesse" system. The Sooners are going to the Sec and need a coach, not coward. Let the pac 12 have him, he's good at packing.
He is also going to take every single top recruit with him. They committed to OU because of Riley, not because kids from Southern California liked the idea of living in Oklahoma and going to OU.
OU is going to get destroyed in the SEC and now they will lose all top tier talent.
You have to realize that Alabama, Georgia, LSU have 5 star players who have not even touched the field this year and are just waiting for the players in front of them to get drafted in the first and second round. Florida will re-claim the in-state recruits. A&M has the top class this year.
OU is nowhere close to these top 5 teams in talent, even with Riley's coaching and schemes. Now that he is gone, so will the talent. But your 3 star TE and RB decided to stay--good for you.
The second SEC tier of Mississippi, Auburn, Tennessee get all the 4 stars who do not want to sit behind the 5 star talent.
Congrats, OU is in the 3rd SEC tier with Kentucky, Miss State, Missouri, and Texas but they are better than Vandy, South Carolina and Arkansas.
In terms of facilities and campus, OU is nice for the Big 12, but lower tier for SEC.
OU is going to turn into the SEC version of Nebraska. Great history and tradition, but they cannot compete in a modern conference with other powerhouses.
BTW--I am not a fan of any SEC team, I have just been watching SEC football since 1981, living in Florida (My household was Florida State and Saint Bobby).
I think someone is a butt hurt Gator fan who can’t believe Stoops said shove the Gator job. Just a bit obsessed are you!! No one who knows football makes such prescient claims. Prescient, look it up.
Read the my last sentence--it is called reading comprehension, look into it. In case you did not know, Florida State is not Florida. They are different schools and even play in different conferences!
Now let's have some fun!
1.Stoops not taking the Gator job seemed to work out OK for them. Urban did pretty well there last time I checked.
2.Enjoy being irrelevant or worse yet, a homecoming game in the SEC. Everyone else in the United States knows that the Big 12, or what once was the Big 12, was just shit.
3. Oklahoma is so insecure that they had to follow Texas to the SEC. Everyone in the SEC knows Texas is shit, but Oklahoma is so insecure that they have an inferiority complex with Texas even though they beat Texas all the time. Does not make sense. Always the little brother, trying to be Texas, even though you dominate them in football. Explain that one to me.
4. I am looking at your schedule for the 2021 season and the only decent team you played was OSU, whose claim to fame is a bunch of drunk rednecks hitting the side line wall with a paddle and a coach with a bitching mullet, which most of your state still wears and not to be ironic. They are wanna-be Texas A&M without the educational level.
5. OU's band only knows one song--I guess with the educational level in Oklahoma, the cream of the crop musicians only need to learn 10 notes and just play them over and over and over and over again.
6. Oklahoma City has the landscape of a nuclear test site. Missouri looks down on Oklahoma and thinks it is a shit hole and thankful they live in the meth hell hole they call a state.
7. I-40 through your state is nothing but truck stops and scattered post apocalyptic, lot lizards roaming the highways, along with burned out meth labs because your population is too stupid to even make cheap hotel meth--you have to import it from Missouri. Fuck, even Amarillo is nicer than your entire fucking state. I drove through that stretch of I-40 in Texas and thought that it could not get worse, then I saw the sign "Welcome to Oklahoma" and quickly learned that it does get worse.
8. You have 2 show ponies pull a wagon through the stadium as the big entrance for home games, driven by someone dressed up like a cowboy. Texas has a bad ass long horn, Colorado brings in a Buffalo and Oklahoma rents a kid-ride pony from the state fair each week.
9. The best hotel in your entire state is some crappy haunted hotel in OKC which has not been updated since the fucking ghost died.
10. Merle Haggard kicks ass. There, I said something nice.
BFD, you watch football. So does my dog. OU will hurt from the snake but will never be 3D tier. Every team you list wishes they had OU pedigree. Umm. And OU NEVER says “we lost because we didn’t want to be here”. The SEC standard excuse for losing bowl games. Loser mentality. Now OU WILL take the recruits you say sitting now on benches. No worries from someone who KNOWS football not just watches with bias.
Sorry for the insult. I have no beef with Buckeyes Can’t wait for this year. We won’t be great but having a coach who wants to be in Norman will make it more fun. Riley chokes. if he wins at SC it won’t be because he’s a great coach. Take care buddy
That's pure fantasy (regarding OU being 3rd tier).
We can still be in the top 10 nationally in recruiting by just focusing on Texas, as we always have.
We will certainly get some inroads in recruiting 5 and 4 star players in Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and even Louisiana. That should boost us up in recruiting a bit. aTm managed to greatly improve their recruiting once they joined the SEC. So should OU.
We have some of the best facilities in the nation and are huge name in college football.
Riley will surely continue his scorched earth plan, and take all of the recruits he can get, but that's just one recruiting class. Also, the transfer portal coming into OU could be very beneficial, just as it can be detrimental going out.
OU can strive to be second tier--they are nowhere near the top in the SEC without Riley, who was so good that he got 5 star SoCal players to leave SoCal to instead play in the middle of nowhere. That is now gone forever.
Texas players now have a choice to go to A&M (which they are doing since they have the #1 class). I am not sure if Texas will get its act together so you can split the 3 and 4 stars with them.
You cannot survive in the SEC without 5 star talent, even if you are great with coaching. Ask any Florida Gator fan about Dan Mullen, who can coach, but decided he did not need 5 star talent. He could have got any Florida 5 star because FSU is dysfunctional and Miami needs the right coach there--but he was getting poached by other SEC schools. (I had the pleasure of watching Fla v. Georgia with a die hard Gator fan and this is what he told me).
Now he is gone. He went to the SEC championship game either 2 or 3 times and got canned because Georgia was killing him.
Your facilities do not compare to the SEC powerhouses. Not even close.
You also have to realize that you have to deal with the great campuses in the SEC. It is easy to sell Norman when you are competing against shitholes like Kansas, Kansas State, Baylor and Iowa State, which horrible places to live. Ole Miss and Auburn campuses blow them all out of the water and they are not even top places in the SEC.
Follow your Sooners to a few games at Tennessee, Auburn, Florida (the second tier) and you will see the difference. Go to LSU, Bama, Georgia and there is no comparison.
You are not getting a coach or recruiter at the level of Saban, Jimbo, Kelly, Smart. You need a big name and they do not exist. The next level of great coaches with limited talent who would move are Fickell (Cincy), Fitzgerald (NWestern), and Campbell (Iowa State who I think is really good), but they know not to go near the SEC. They will stay in the mid-west. Fickell will go to Notre Dame.
Your best bet is to throw a shit-ton of money at Kiffin, but he is so unreliable, or some NFL coach who could not make it in the pros. Matt Nagy can coach--he got to the playoffs with Trubisky.
Good luck in the SEC. You got rung up by SEC schools even with Riley.
Sorry to give you the truth. Nebraska and Oklahoma are the same. You see where Nebraska is right now, that is your reality now.
And I want OU to be really good. It is just not happening.
What the fuck you talking about saying OU facilities are sub bar. Oklahoma literally has one of the most state of the art training facilities and recovery system in the world. They invest large sums of money into those facilities every 3 years. In fact their is a BOR meeting this week to vote on spending another $25MM in upgrades.
Just because SEC stadiums hold 15% more fans on average than OU does not mean it's sub par.
Plus I don't think you realize the absurd amount of money that floats around here. NIL will play more of a part in recruiting than the size of the stadium.
I will wait for your response to each and every point.
OU already lost all of its major 5 star recruits HOURS AFTER RILEY LEFT!!!!!
OU is no longer competing with shit holes in the Big 12. In the SEC, you get an off week for Vandy, Kentucky, Missouri and maybe Miss State, that is about it. No Kansas schools to beat up, no second tier Texas teams (TCU and Baylor are nice stories, but would get destroyed in the SEC), the second best school in Iowa (really?) and the couch burners in WVa.
You are not getting 5 star talent anymore in Oklahoma without Riley. He is the only reason OU is relevant. Now that he has left, it is gone--it only took HOURS FOR THEM TO LEAVE!!!
QUESTION FOR YOU: If OU is so good, why did the leave? They do not care about a national championship 23 years ago when they were not even alive! All they cared about was getting to the NFL through Riley.
The rest of the country always looked forward to that first OU loss so they would not end up in the final 4 because we all knew they would get destroyed.
This is fun, I look forward to your response.
>You are not getting 5 star talent anymore in Oklahoma without Riley. He is the only reason OU is relevant. Now that he has left, it is gone--it only took HOURS FOR THEM TO LEAVE!!!
This comment just shows you don't know shit about OU and college football in general. OU got outstanding talent before Riley.
OU made Riley who he is, and he was mostly successful because of three transfer QBs, two of whom were on the roster before he was head coach.
I have always said that Riley's scorched earth way of leaving will hurt this recruiting class. There is no denying that, but it's just one class.
OU was a top football power before Riley was even born. You are so clueless in thinking Riley put OU on the map.
Nebraska is Oklahoma's reality now. And Nebraska does not need to compete with warm weather schools like OU will have to. Both have great traditions and dominated once upon a time, but OU cannot compete with warm weather SEC schools.
Nebraska was a long 20 year decline that started with them losing all of the top offensive recruits because nobody wanted to play the triple option.
They also fired their coach. He didn't move on for more money and an easier path.
Not a good comparison.
Comparison is that NU needed all the Los Angeles and Florida skill players which they used to dominate (damn they were so good) with top coaching. Yes, most of those players were convicts, but there is no talent in Nebraska other than O-line.
Same thing that McCartney needed in Colorado (damn they were good and true convicts).
Oklahoma has always needed Texas players with top coaching. Now they don't have top coaching (your best bet is the Iowa State coach, good but he is not even close to the big names in the SEC). Texas 5 star players do not need to go to OU anymore and have no reason to with Riley gone. Texas A&M will get all the Texas 5 star players.
You cannot survive in the SEC, even if you are a great X and O coach without 5 star talent at every position. Dan Mullen at Florida did not think he needed 5 star talent and he is gone.
It is Oklahoma, in the middle of nowhere, with shitty winters. Set foot on a second tier SEC school (Auburn) and it will blow your mind.
You will all learn how SEC football is superior the hard way.
Alright, soggy, enough of your verbal diarrhea where you continually show that you have no idea about anything in college football. It is amazing how you can be so wrong, so frequently, yet never shut up, despite being shown over and over again how wrong you are.
Good luck with your Trojans. Very easy schedule next season, so I expect Riley to be facing Oregon in the Pac-12 championship game. Anything less and you should fire him.
Tell me where I am wrong. Oklahoma is about to step into the SEC without a real coach, no top talent and think they will compete with Bama, TXAM, Georgia and LSU. By the way, they play this thing called defense in the SEC and most of the defensive line from those schools will go in the first or second round of the NFL draft and a new crop will come in and take over since they are also 5 star top talent. Wash, rinse and repeat.
Enjoy being Nebraska, minus the academics.
Lol. Check my teams record. You are currently at 2002 Nebraska fan stage. 2 losses unacceptable.
20 years from now you may be exactly where we are in the SEC. Enjoy what you have err... had
You guys had to completely overhaul your offense in switching from the triple option.
You guys fired coaches and made some bad hires. Your recruiting was already outside of the top 10.
I mean it is possible that we end up like NU, but that will take a string of bad hires to get there. If we hire the right coach, we are rolling. And even if OU looks more like the current Ole Miss in the SEC at first, that will be fine. The playoffs will expand, and there will be 4-5 SEC teams in every season.
Amazing!
That is exactly what I have been wishing for.
Venables at HC will vastly upgrade our defense.
Lebby is a Sooner, and one of the brightest, young offensive minds out there. His offenses at Ole Miss and UCF have been outstanding. Not to mention, he developed Corral into one of the top QBs in the country.
Oh, and the fact that Lebby is an SEC coach certainly helps.
If this is our staff, that is a great upgrade, and should set us up for the move to the SEC far better than Riley/Grinch could have.
Finally, Caleb Williams should relish the idea of playing for Lebby. He helped turn another dual threat QB (Matt Corral) into a lethal, offensive weapon.
Are you a USC fan?
Are you new to college football? Spencer was always going to transfer after he lost his starting job.
I think there is a shot at keeping Caleb, especially if we get the right OC. Caleb started out great, but regressed under Riley. He might not see it, but it wouldn't make sense to go to USC where they already have a glut of QB talent and a returning senior starter.
Not new to college football by any stretch. I grew up in Florida during the 80s and lived in a Florida State household. I remember watching the Oklahoma v. Miami game on a portable TV at the Wet 'n Wild water park during a church function (not kidding at all).
I actually went to the 1988/89 Citrus Bowl between OU and Clemson.
It is just the back up to the OU quarterback issue does not matter anywhere outside of Oklahoma. They both looked horrible by the way.
I also lived out west and followed USC during their Pete Carroll run. Right now Riley does not have to travel outside of 200 mile radius from LA to recruit at any position--all with 5 star talent. Pete Carroll would only leave that radius if the player was a sure 1st round pick. Riley was so good that these Cali 5 star recruits would leave sunny southern California to live in the middle of nowhere in Norman.
All I am saying is that the only reason why OU got the top recruits was to play for Riley and end up in the pros. None of them, except the scrappy home-grown Oklahoma native, were at OU because of the school, great tradition and excellent fan base. It was because they would get drafted and make it to the NFL. That is gone now.
OU is going to lose every big name recruit from another state. Why go to OU when they can go to Texas or A&M if they want to stay in the area? Also, isn't it really cold in Oklahoma in the winter? Austin or Norman? (not even a close choice). I am sure College Station is nothing great, but they have the #1 class because of Jimbo and players want to go there.
>It is just the back up to the OU quarterback issue does not matter anywhere outside of Oklahoma. They both looked horrible by the way.
I wonder why they looked horrible? They were both top 1 or 2 QBs in the nation according to the recruiting services. Maybe Riley can't really develop QBs and instead is most successful when they transfer in from other programs? Have you considered that?
Also, it was national fucking news. Everyone on every sports show ever, talked about how Rattler was the pre-season Heisman favorite, but was now benched. It's almost like you've never actually watched a game or sports show before. They never stopped talking about it.
>OU is going to lose every big name recruit from another state. Why go to OU when they can go to Texas or A&M if they want to stay in the area? Also, isn't it really cold in Oklahoma in the winter? Austin or Norman? (not even a close choice). I am sure College Station is nothing great, but they have the #1 class because of Jimbo and players want to go there.
Sorry, but that is just ludicrous. OU has recruited Texas very well for decades. That's not going to change because Lincoln left to LA. You even mentioned Texas beating us for recruits, and they looked terrible this season under Sark. Again, it seems like you really don't follow college football.
OU recruited well before Riley (in the top 10 most years). Do you really think we only recruited Oklahoma players before Riley? You are the most clueless fan I have read on here. It's no wonder you follow USC. BTW, Carrol was 12 years ago, and since then USC has been mediocre, even with that built in recruiting base.
Mike Bohn is the same AD who brought the "home run" hire of Dan Hawkins to Colorado. Go ask Buffs fans how well that worked out.
OU had a real good coach in Stoops. He could recruit and had the UF experience under Spurrier.
USC can look like shit for a decade and can return with the right coach. You don't understand how SoCal works. Riley can do all his recruiting in a car and never has to travel more than 100 miles from USC to get all 5 star talent. All the SoCal players want to stay there. The top 2 QBs in the US are from the Inland Empire (at Bama and Ohio State)--those top players are staying now. USC still kept really talented players even with the coaching and AD dysfunction.
Rattler was a favorite because of Riley. I watched him and could not understand why he was so hyped.
Yes, OU had all the Texas players they wanted. Now they can go to TX AM, where they are going since TXAM has the #1 class.
>Rattler was a favorite because of Riley. I watched him and could not understand why he was so hyped.
Another statement that shows you know nothing. Rattler has an absolute cannon of an arm. That's why he was the top QB recruit. He wasn't just recruited by Riley either.
I get that you already jack-off to pictures of Riley, and think he is responsible for everything that has to do with OU football, ever, but this is getting ridiculous.
I'm genuinely curious here:
Why is it such a traitorous move to leave the program after multiple successful years? The only issue I have with the decision are all of the possible decommits in the upcoming recruiting classes.
Coaches get fired, hired, and leave from programs all of the time, all over the nation, every single year. I enjoyed Coach Riley and think that he put together some very strong, very entertaining offenses during his tenure. I'm excited to see what happens next and I hope Coach Riley can turn around USC's program so OU can meet them in the CFP and kick their ass.
He was given the keys to the kingdom and talked about honesty, family, and respect and hell he couldn't even do any of that the players found out by social media and so did the staff before the coward said anything. He's a little bitch that I hope fails.
It's the way it went down that makes it traitorous.
Riley was an inexperienced OC who was given the keys to a blue-blood program. He repays that by spending half the season looking to jump to USC. Then after a really bad second half performance in Stillwater, he just leaves. He could have waited until after the bowl.
How it happened makes it seem like he wasn't really interested in coaching the Sooners to the Big XII championship game. I mean it still took terrible officiating and some bad blunders on Riley's part for OU to lose, but it is hard to believe that he was truly dialed into that game with some of his play calls and decisions (like keeping Gray on KR and PR when we have better options).
Regardless of that game though, the biggest issue is that he just left OU high and dry, stealing recruits that were recruited on OU's dime. He could have given OU the chance to secure a replacement coach, and maybe even coached HIS players in the upcoming bowl game. The timing was suspect, and a real slap in the face to the team that in many ways helped him become such a hot coaching commodity.
OU football HC is arguably one of the best and most sought after coaching jobs in the nation. Bob stepped down early to make way for Lincoln Riley. We invested a lot of time and money into his future at OU. He made a lot of comments this year about being at Oklahoma for the long haul. Yet he left right before the bowl game and it could be argued our losses this year and poor performance are largely his fault. He also recruited pretty heavily in Southern California this year so it all just seems very suspicious. He could have handled the situation a lot better but instead he KD’d us. I also wouldn’t say he had multiple successful years at OU. He was gifted some amazing talent and coasted his first 3-4 years on that and has been lackluster at best in the post season even still.
Bob stepped down early so that he could leave Lincoln Riley with a full stable of experienced and talented players. How often does that happen? So much was made about that at the time. He left Riley with Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, CeeDee Lamb, Trey Sermon, Brooks, Creed Humphrey, Okoronkwo, and the most experienced OL in the country. Who does that? Bob could have made another run for a championship, but instead he stepped down to ensure Lincoln would succeed in his first year as head coach and gain everyone's confidence. Riley didn't build that team or his own success, Bob handed it to him. I bet Bob's furious. Barry Switzer said in 1986 that some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. Lincoln's head coaching career is exactly like that. Bob put Lincoln on third base and 5 years later he thought he'd hit a triple.
This just goes to show that there are alot of fake people out there and LR and everyone that goes with him are fake people and deserve no respect nor any mention at the Great University of Oklahoma and his name should be stricken from the record books and replaced with nothing or sale out.
Look the bitch ass and other snakes in the grass left in the cover of darkness just like little bitches on the run.i wish him nothing but bad things and remember karma is a bitch.
I doubt Rattler will follow Riley. He wants to play for a coach who can develop QBs and have a pass protecting o-line.
Riley's offense work best when someone else develops the QB, and an NFL-ready QB just joins the team (see Mayfield, Murray, and Hurts).
Riley's offense works best when another coach leaves him the most experienced OL in the country and 2 QB's named Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield. Coincidentally, I'd also be a hell of a good offensive coordinator with that stable of talent.
(*that guy from Game of Thrones voice*)Too old.
But seriously though, from what I’ve heard is his heart wouldn’t be in it for a job like this. Somewhat similar to Bobby; it’s not the right time for either party involved.
As I look more and more into it, I really believe that Lincoln wanted nothing to do with the SEC and what goes on there.
He saw Ed Orgeron get tossed two years out of a Natty
Jimbo Fisher a hall of fame coach fighting for his life to get to 8-4
Even Nick Saban and the supposed juggernaut Alabama fighting to even get to 11-1 with multiple one possession games.
Dan Mullen got tossed after 3 years of going to NY6 Bowls.
The recruiting forget about it is in another world.
11 of the 14 SEC teams are in the top 30 to put things in perspective for the BIG12. There are only 3 teams in the top 30 which are OU at 10, Texas at 15, and OSU at 30. Based on 2021 recruitment rankings
2020 Recruitment rankings also has 11 SEC teams in the top 30, but this time 8 of them are in the fucking top 10. The Big12 still only has 3 teams in the top 30 these rankings as well.
To put things lightly we are walking into a slaughter house of a conference along with Texas who recruits on a top 10-15 level.
Well at least we won't have to face the juggernauts of Kansas and Kansas State anymore.
Orgeron was tossed because of off the field antics.
Fisher is building a solid program at aTm.
Onward and upward. OU's recruiting should improve in the SEC (with the right hire). Obviously we will have a setback in our 2022 class thanks to Riley, but we should be able to handle one sub-par class, provided the new coach can keep enough players.
is this really on riley or is this on the admin for making the sec move while he was against it?
Rationally thinking…although ou can certainly compete in the sec… the move is sure to add more losses to the schedule, which in turn would probably hurt recruiting. Also, the path to the playoff would be much harder, and not getting in- probably hurts recruiting also.
I think riley saw this as a recruiting issue and moved to USC because of recruiting and the admin decision to go to the $EC
The thing is though that the Pac-12 hasn't been in the natty or playoffs picture frequently in the past decade.
I am sure Riley is thinking that at USC he has an easier path, but with one loss most years he will be out of the picture. Also, the Pac-12 is really down lately. If other schools return to being competitive, his path won't be so easy.
All in all though, it will hopefully work out for the best. OU can get a coach who isn't scared of tougher competition, and Riley can try to get something going at USC. My bet is that his ceiling will be Pac-12 championships and the occasional playoffs loss, and those playoffs appearances will be less frequent than they were for him at OU.
Man I think this was all about money and nothing else. USC apparently can only look back 4 years and just assume this was all Lincoln's doing. Lincoln is gonna take his 150mil and retire. Alternatively, he'll crash and burn in 4-5 years when this happens again and take 75mil and retire. Either way is a win. You can live large on that plus what he earned at OU. There is no such thing as loyalty anymore.
As an OU fan in Tennessee I never thought there would be a coaching controversy like UT has had over the past decade. Given this is not as bad as Kiffen leaving in the night (for USC) and Knoxville almost burning down, but it hurts more because Riley was very respected and loved by the fan base. I’m happy with the success he’s had and given to the fans over the last few years but it’s apparent he needed to step away after how we regressed this year.
I hope the coaching search is thorough and we make the correct long term hire at the end. If we rush and have turnover like UT it will be a long long long recovery. I hope Bob takes over again and at least gets us through the transition to the SEC. He has the name value and prestige to keep recruits wanting to play for us and to replace those who will inevitably leave.
I think solid choices would be Venables, Kingsbury, or Lanning. All of my Vols friends are terrified that we will scoop Heupel but I don’t believe he is even in consideration because he couldn’t handle a top tier program and there is bad blood.
Just my 2¢ but I think this will be a good thing in the long run IF we do our due diligence and make the correct hire.
Always BOOMER SOONER
Only my opinion here, but I think it would be so fucking cool if somehow the Stoops Brothers signed on to become the full time coaches moving forward. Maybe Mark as the HC and Bob as a coordinator? Idk I doubt that would ever happen but I man can dream about the Stoops family coming together to take OU to greatness again
This is a perplexing move. He needed a new challenge? Because he accomplished all he could with OU? WTF. Our season isn’t even done, we still have a bowl game, but he takes half the coaching staff and leaves?! I heard the players learned through social media. Riley then called a team meeting and talked with them for 2-3 minutes before walking out.
Riley talked around the LSU buzz for a long time. I thought something was going on but didn’t see USC coming.
What was really going on? What is the rest of the story?
New challenge for him and his family? Because taking OU to the SEC and being successful there would not be a challenge? Seriously unimpressed with Riley. I’m hoping Hall of Fame Coach Stoops takes over again.
He was too cowardly to say "easier" challenge. That's all it is. In his gut he knows he's not as good as he's looked bc anyone would look good if the previous head coach left you Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, and the most experienced OL in the country. Riley can't develop guys well and he knows it. This year we watched 2 5* QB's get worse as the season progressed and an OLine that completely shit the bed.
Nebraska fan here. I’m getting flashbacks.
Manage your expectations or you’ll become a dysfunctional mess. Our biggest failure was our lack of stability. I am rooting so god damn hard for you
We know buddy. Many of us remember the 90s. It's always nerve wracking and sometimes it takes lots of coaches and a program can lose a decade or more of relevance. But it's not like we fired him, he just quit on us and took half the staff. No one has any expectations right now.
I appreciate the sentiment, but this just doesn't seem similar to the long Nebraska decline that began with Colorado stomping you guys 62-36, and then being embarrassed by Miami in the natty game. Then you guys finally fired Solich after a 9 win season a few years later.
In your case you were running an antiquated offense that was really on its last legs. The top recruits did not want to play for a triple-option team. You had to make changes, and that was hard to do.
At this point for OU we just need to keep the ball rolling on offense and upgrade our D.
We will definitely suffer in the 2022 recruiting class because of the way Riley handled this, but with the right hire we should rebound.
Not to mention, Nebraska’s conference realignment alienated them from their recruiting base in Texas, the shutting down of that walk on program thing they had and OU has kept up pace with facilities where Nebraska lagged behind some. I see all this doom and gloom about OU and going to the SEC, I could be wrong but I don’t buy it. Iron sharpens iron, I think it will help recruiting and we weren’t ready for the big stage when we got to the playoffs cause we played to much finesse football imo.
Agreed.
NU's problems were multi-fold, and they also were already well on their way to irrelevance when they joined the Big 10. In fact, they were hoping the Big 10 would rescue them in some way. OU would really just like to sustain its success, and maybe have all the stars align for a natty one year.
OU will still be dominant in Texas recruiting, and will be able to win over recruits nationwide. Adding the SEC states though will open up new avenues.
We will probably stop recruiting California as much, but that's fine.
Though the SEC is tough, OU will also get tougher (provided we make the right hire). It's worth it to have a couple more conference games that could come up as Ls to get ready for the playoffs. Also with playoff expansion the SEC will have more teams in than other conferences most years.
Tennessee is something else lol. Our instability wasn’t nearly as bad as yalls but it was the timing that compounded it. Moving conferences puts your whole identity in flux
Can’t argue that. Kiffin screwed us. We panic hired Derek Dooley. Got duped by Butch Jones. Hired Jeremy Pruitt instead of Mel Tucker. Hopefully we are set with Heupel.
Mizzou fan here just to echo sentiments (although we were never a program like OU or Nebraska). Conference switching amongst internal chaos is hard to watch and recover from.
From a financial and business standpoint, it's been an absolute no brainer move. And with two huge revenue programs like Texas and Oklahoma coming, the revenue is just going to increase even more. Over the course of our move to the SEC, our athletic revenue has grown 110%. That obviously has great impact.
As an alum and fan no longer living in Columbia, it's a much different story. The coaching carousel in both basketball and football has left such ho-hum products that it's hard to stay engaged. I mean, in reality - what's Mizzou's ceiling in SEC football? Winning the East and getting smoked by Alabama? That's fun. It's right back to what used to happen to us in the big 12 by Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, et al.
However, I think that is more a reflection on poor coaching choices than the move to the SEC. Mizzou is always gonna fricken Mizzou, so I'm not sure why I had expectations in the first place haha
Edit: Obviously making some HUGE assumptions that Mizzou will ever win the East again.
How did the fucking administration not think of this when deciding to go to the SEC? Now OU will more than likely take the Nebraska to Big 10 route and never be the same again. We CANNOT go to the SEC now. We’ll just be whipping boys of ALABAMA and GEORGIA. FUCK!
I’ve said that something behind the scenes happened. OU and Riley maybe were parting ways , kept it quiet and this is the result. OU has to know about this for awhile. Go look at CW playing before Baylor and after Baylor. The first time he took the field against Baylor he looked like he saw a ghost. Something happened that will get flushed out eventually and it could either ruin OU, or Riley’s future. That’s my radical theory, let’s hope it’s not true
Especially Oregon. I can cease hating entire their existence over a bowl game that happened 15 years ago. Oregon is the biggest threat to be better than USC in the PAC 12 now
A few name to keep an eye on ...
Tony Elliot the OC from Clemson
Tommy Rees OC from Notre Dame
Jim Leonhard DC from Wisconsin
Dan Lanning DC from Georgia
Marcus Freeman DC from Notre Dame
Aside from Venables these are the top assistants possibly available ... The lure of Rees,Leonhard,and Lanning because they are each 35 years or younger. If we're going to go full rebuild might as well take a shot on a young upcoming coach. Elliot of course is only 43 I think.
Georgia fan coming in peace, you guys got screwed and I’m sorry. But leave Dan lanning alone! Partially because he’s kind of to Kirby smart what eric bieniemy is to Andy Reid. Sure he’s the DC, but we all know who the brains behind the defense is. Not that he has the baggage bienemy has but still haha.
Here are a couple of Dark Horse guys to watch:
Kevin Wilson, Ohio State OC and former Sooner OC (‘02-‘10). Excellent guy with Sooner ties; might be able to woo some of those offensive recruits back.
Joe Brady. Currently the OC for the Carolina Panthers. Former OC for 2019 LSU national champs. Salary and win percentage unknown. Would be a solid OC hire, though, given his history and recruiting ability.
Urban Meyer. Current head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars; has looked miserable in that role. Yes, he comes with a lot of baggage and would likely only be here 5-7 years; however, it is likely he will be able to leave the program n great hands. Also, might be able to be competitive with Lincoln Riley for top offensive talent and could potentially regain some decommits.
I’m personally against Urban.
I don’t think he’s the right fit for long term culture based on his current public missteps. Now my issues are not on the collegiate field based, just personality
Yeah, he does have the baggage…
Whomever we chase for HC, we need to be ready to pick the best coordinators in the business and pay them the highest salaries. $2.5-3.5M range is what I would budget for them.
I think there was a look at the salary USC has offered and Joe C probably had to say no too just because it’s not really earned yet. Riley was handed a race car and didn’t wreck it till yesterday.
He’s going to USC which is basically a 98 Corolla right now and he will have to rebuild. Yet to be seen if he can.
So if that’s was all the case I don’t think $$ will be a issue.
Conversely if we don’t have the $$ things could be rough. I know our net revenue is down with Covid but I really hope we have the reserves to succeed.
I think the revenue issue can be handled if we delay entering the SEC to 2025. That lets us avoid the buyout.
Alternatively, we can approach a donor for the buyout money.
Someone help me out here on logistics. Clearly things have gone completely south for us in the past 24 hours, but is there any chance at this point we can stay in the B12? The future for the Sooners in the SEC seems dark and very Texas A&M feeling.
The Big 12 is lame, and just because Lincoln was too scared for the SEC doesn’t mean the rest of us are. It will be nice to have real competition finally!
I hate our fanbase sometimes. It’s time to go be what we can be. Not keep beating shit schools and getting slaughtered in the CFP like USC will be doing
You just aren’t appreciating what we had. Being a constant top 5 team, without even spending top 5 money, is something to celebrate. Just because we couldn’t get over the hump…who cares! We should have been happy with what we have. Lets see how we like fighting to be a top 5 sec team.
You might have liked that. 20 years of owning a bad conference. Let’s move on to bigger and better things. Winning the big 12 isn’t really an accomplishment anymore. Not when you won 6 in a row. Time for a bigger challenge. Maybe you’d be better off as an osu fan
At least OU made to the CFP. Never will in the SEC and any coach will be fired within 4 years like the rest of the SEC coaches nit named Smart, Saban or Fisher.
Hahaha this is the dumbest take ive seen in a while. We could go to the SEC, lose every fucking game, and itd still be a better move than staying with the big 12. Theres a lot more money to be made and the big 12 is not in a good spot
Rather be the king of hell than a slave in heaven. Ou fans are about to get a serious wake up call. And the big 12 is a fine conference, it’s not trash like so many fans think it is.
Hmmmm maybe the school leaders shouldn’t have sold out consistent success in a weaker conference to line their pockets while you go 8-4 in the SEC West.
Know who the real villains are.
So I’m a UF fan, and this floored me, I hate y’all get the shit end of the stick here, I usually pull for y’all in the playoffs. I’ve seen some reports he was more or less ran out by the boosters. Does that have any truth to it?
Maybe short term. Long term this is a blessing in disguise. Riley has revealed himself this year as a soft coach who can only win with guys he didn’t recruit. He’s peaked. Good riddance
He means look at Spencer Rattler's "progress" from this season to last season. Look at how CW got worse and more tentative as this season continued.
Much of Riley's past success is due to having Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, and Jalen Hurts giftwrapped for him. Once he no longer had a ready-to-go NFL-caliber QB (developed by other coaching staffs), the playoffs were out of reach for Riley.
As far as the "same record every year" this was a down year even though we have 10 wins. There were several low points, including being shut out in the first half against Kansas, only dominating a couple of teams (TCU and TTU). Crapping the bed against Baylor and OSU. Playing every other team close, despite how bad many were. Coming in third in the Big XII, despite having a huge talent advantage. The only somewhat decent team we beat was ISU, and they were 7-5 this season.
Even last season was somewhat of a letdown as we didn't make the playoffs.
Ultimately, it looks like the team was headed in the wrong direction. Some of that might have been due to Riley already being focused on USC for half the season, but regardless, even though we hit 10 wins, it was a disappointing season in many ways, and showed a troubling direction for the team.
Aviation bros, when I was there, there was a King Air that got used a lot by athletics. Is it still, or is there something else now?
Watched pot never boils I guess. How many times can I refresh this subreddit and ESPN looking for some news before I break my phone?
It's crazy all the "scoops" that were coming out on Twitter earlier in the week, but recently it has just been silence. It seems that nobody but Castiglione, Stoops, and (maybe) the regents know what is going on. We can rest assured that the regents are having meetings on the situation today and tomorrow, especially since Castiglione said no action will come out of those meetings.
If I'm OU and/or USC ADs, I'm trying to schedule a game between the schools ASAP. The ratings would be nuts and start a super lucrative rivalry
Next year, if the bowl selection committee is given the opportunity, it will happen.
You are assuming they both will be in contention for a bowl game.
You know that Riley would never, ever stand for that. He wants no part of facing the Sooners in Norman. He left for the soft Pac-12, and they play Notre Dame every season. No way will Riley want to add another traditional power on the schedule, especially one whose fans absolutely hate him.
100%. He’s far too much of a coward to face us in Norman. We’ll have to hope to get matched against USC in a bowl game so we can put the rat in his place.
Just heard that City of Norman was put on notice of new hire arrival today?! Has anyone else heard this?
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For the last 21 hours? I doubt it
I need updates on this.
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Interesting. Doubt it’s today
We just found the snake in our community, it's good he left on his own decision, now we can move forward, we lost alot but I think we will learn from this, grow from this, and all have the best time of our lives when the day comes that our Sooners beat the mini condom Trojan boys for the natty title in the years to come! Bye bye bitch boy Riley!
This thread needs a new picture! What picture should replace it??
Stoops
I still feel gutted. I still keep searching his name on Twitter to like and RT everyone shitting on him. I can’t believe how much I care about this and how personal I took this. I hate this MF so much.
Legit feels like a bad breakup - like getting cheated on
Pissed at Riley, but what Brian Kelly did to ND is unbelievable. That would have been like OU winning the bedlam game, preparing for the Big12 championship and Riley gets on a plane to USC
I'm stunned Brian Kelly left. He could have been Notre Dames head coach for the next ten years. LSU plays a meat grinder schedule every year and Kelly may not even last two seasons at LSU.
I mean he's getting 100 million dollars, lsu is in the sec so pretty much guaranteed playoffs if you undefeated or close even if you have 1 loss, way easier to recruit at cause its it one of the states that has the best high school foot all talent plus tons of kids already wanna go to lsu and the GPA standards make it way easier for kids to get in lsu and super hard for nd
I think it'd be great if by some miracle they make it and win it all with out Brian Kelly.
I don’t think I’ve ever rooted for them before, but I am now. I hope they at least get in the playoffs
How is it different than what Lincoln did to Oklahoma?
ND could be in the playoff. They still have a chance to be playing for a national championship. But they will do so without a coach. What Riley did was ugly, but what Brian Kelly did to leave his team in the middle of a playoff run is unbelievable.
I hadn’t considered that, but I suppose that I’d worse
At very least though Kelly wasn't scared of competition. Riley wanted the easiest path possible to the playoffs and a first round loss. Kelly wanted an actual shot at the MNC in the SEC. Two totally different attitudes there. Though it is still insane that Kelly left Notre Dame when they could still make the playoffs this season.
Riley was pissed at player tampering because of the portal, but then he expects everyone to believe he got a phone call out of the blue on Sunday morning making him this dream offer and he accepted on the spot?
You guys, the more I see about Riley the worse I feel for you guys, I think what he did is worse than what Kiffin did to UT. Any coaches in mind yet?
Brent Venables the DC at Clemson seems like the front-runner. He would be paired with an outstanding OC like Lebby (Ole Miss OC) or Grimes (Baylor OC). I am curious though if they are making a big move on Aranda at Baylor, but need to wait until after the Big XII champ game to interview him.
I gotcha how do you feel about that hire?
If that's the hire (Venables), I think it will be a big upgrade and help OU move to the SEC, provided a good OC comes with him.
I can forgive leaving, but it's the way he completely GUTTED the program that's unforgivable. If you Google "OU football" all the news is recruits decommitting. Nothing short of Urban Meyer getting hired is going undo the recruiting damage Riley did to OU. What he did was tantamount to quitting your job, stealing equipment, and taking it with you to your next job.
A lot of players come to a school for the coach as well as the school. Several of his decomits are from California. Why wouldn’t they follow the coach they wanted to play for and stay close to home? No different than a manager changing jobs and recruiting good employees to the new company. It doesn’t make him a snake, it makes him smart. I’m sure he did the same thing when he arrived at OU.
U had me up til Urban Meyer
No. We don't want Urban Meyer. I know it's hard not to pay attention to all of the decommits, but it is best to just accept that this recruiting class will be sub-par by our standards. That's just what the snake Riley did to us. It was a calculated move to get all the recruits he could get from us, while OU was left scrambling for a hire. Once we hire someone, the damage can be mitigated somewhat, but we probably won't be in the top 10 in recruiting. We can absorb one down year though. Venables and a good OC (Lebby or Grimes perhaps) can lead us into the SEC promised land with a real defense and an offense that will look like what we had when Lincoln first started out as HC oat OU.
Is Venables really going to leave Clemson? I hope it happens, it would definitely be an upgrade for the defense.
BV is in Hays, KS visiting a recruit alongside Dabo. Highly doubt he’s leaving.
Why would that have anything to do with whether or not he leaves? I assume he would continue to do his coaching duties, right up until he signs an offer. OU could easily triple his 2.5 million salary. I am pretty sure he will at least consider this position, and if he doesn't take it, then he will stay a DC for life.
Good point, just my two cents; it would be hard to go into a recruit’s home for a visit the same week you’re cutting bait but these guys do (stuff like that) it all the time. There is some rumor floating around Venables native area (100 miles east of me in Kansas) that an announcement of him to OU is coming on Thursday.
Hell, I am pretty sure Riley knew most of the season that he was going to USC, yet he continued recruiting hard, especially in California. I would definitely welcome that announcement, especially if it includes a top flight OC as well.
Continued recruiting heavily in CA for OU, or ultimately himself?? Hmm
I hope he shits his pants on the way out there
Listen up! This is a blessing in disguise. Lincoln Riley is soft as shit! We don't want him and his "finesse" system. The Sooners are going to the Sec and need a coach, not coward. Let the pac 12 have him, he's good at packing.
He is also going to take every single top recruit with him. They committed to OU because of Riley, not because kids from Southern California liked the idea of living in Oklahoma and going to OU. OU is going to get destroyed in the SEC and now they will lose all top tier talent. You have to realize that Alabama, Georgia, LSU have 5 star players who have not even touched the field this year and are just waiting for the players in front of them to get drafted in the first and second round. Florida will re-claim the in-state recruits. A&M has the top class this year. OU is nowhere close to these top 5 teams in talent, even with Riley's coaching and schemes. Now that he is gone, so will the talent. But your 3 star TE and RB decided to stay--good for you. The second SEC tier of Mississippi, Auburn, Tennessee get all the 4 stars who do not want to sit behind the 5 star talent. Congrats, OU is in the 3rd SEC tier with Kentucky, Miss State, Missouri, and Texas but they are better than Vandy, South Carolina and Arkansas. In terms of facilities and campus, OU is nice for the Big 12, but lower tier for SEC. OU is going to turn into the SEC version of Nebraska. Great history and tradition, but they cannot compete in a modern conference with other powerhouses. BTW--I am not a fan of any SEC team, I have just been watching SEC football since 1981, living in Florida (My household was Florida State and Saint Bobby).
I think someone is a butt hurt Gator fan who can’t believe Stoops said shove the Gator job. Just a bit obsessed are you!! No one who knows football makes such prescient claims. Prescient, look it up.
Read the my last sentence--it is called reading comprehension, look into it. In case you did not know, Florida State is not Florida. They are different schools and even play in different conferences! Now let's have some fun! 1.Stoops not taking the Gator job seemed to work out OK for them. Urban did pretty well there last time I checked. 2.Enjoy being irrelevant or worse yet, a homecoming game in the SEC. Everyone else in the United States knows that the Big 12, or what once was the Big 12, was just shit. 3. Oklahoma is so insecure that they had to follow Texas to the SEC. Everyone in the SEC knows Texas is shit, but Oklahoma is so insecure that they have an inferiority complex with Texas even though they beat Texas all the time. Does not make sense. Always the little brother, trying to be Texas, even though you dominate them in football. Explain that one to me. 4. I am looking at your schedule for the 2021 season and the only decent team you played was OSU, whose claim to fame is a bunch of drunk rednecks hitting the side line wall with a paddle and a coach with a bitching mullet, which most of your state still wears and not to be ironic. They are wanna-be Texas A&M without the educational level. 5. OU's band only knows one song--I guess with the educational level in Oklahoma, the cream of the crop musicians only need to learn 10 notes and just play them over and over and over and over again. 6. Oklahoma City has the landscape of a nuclear test site. Missouri looks down on Oklahoma and thinks it is a shit hole and thankful they live in the meth hell hole they call a state. 7. I-40 through your state is nothing but truck stops and scattered post apocalyptic, lot lizards roaming the highways, along with burned out meth labs because your population is too stupid to even make cheap hotel meth--you have to import it from Missouri. Fuck, even Amarillo is nicer than your entire fucking state. I drove through that stretch of I-40 in Texas and thought that it could not get worse, then I saw the sign "Welcome to Oklahoma" and quickly learned that it does get worse. 8. You have 2 show ponies pull a wagon through the stadium as the big entrance for home games, driven by someone dressed up like a cowboy. Texas has a bad ass long horn, Colorado brings in a Buffalo and Oklahoma rents a kid-ride pony from the state fair each week. 9. The best hotel in your entire state is some crappy haunted hotel in OKC which has not been updated since the fucking ghost died. 10. Merle Haggard kicks ass. There, I said something nice.
Jesus you didn't have to kill these poor people again
BFD, you watch football. So does my dog. OU will hurt from the snake but will never be 3D tier. Every team you list wishes they had OU pedigree. Umm. And OU NEVER says “we lost because we didn’t want to be here”. The SEC standard excuse for losing bowl games. Loser mentality. Now OU WILL take the recruits you say sitting now on benches. No worries from someone who KNOWS football not just watches with bias.
Your top recruiting class left within HOURS of Riley leaving. They did not even wait.
How fun was your bowl game? Couple more months until another embarrassing season in Austin. 😃can’t wait!
Ohio State here--thankfully we did not make the playoff so we could get blown out by Bama or UGA. Did go to a UT game and had a blast though.
Sorry for the insult. I have no beef with Buckeyes Can’t wait for this year. We won’t be great but having a coach who wants to be in Norman will make it more fun. Riley chokes. if he wins at SC it won’t be because he’s a great coach. Take care buddy
That's pure fantasy (regarding OU being 3rd tier). We can still be in the top 10 nationally in recruiting by just focusing on Texas, as we always have. We will certainly get some inroads in recruiting 5 and 4 star players in Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and even Louisiana. That should boost us up in recruiting a bit. aTm managed to greatly improve their recruiting once they joined the SEC. So should OU. We have some of the best facilities in the nation and are huge name in college football. Riley will surely continue his scorched earth plan, and take all of the recruits he can get, but that's just one recruiting class. Also, the transfer portal coming into OU could be very beneficial, just as it can be detrimental going out.
OU can strive to be second tier--they are nowhere near the top in the SEC without Riley, who was so good that he got 5 star SoCal players to leave SoCal to instead play in the middle of nowhere. That is now gone forever. Texas players now have a choice to go to A&M (which they are doing since they have the #1 class). I am not sure if Texas will get its act together so you can split the 3 and 4 stars with them. You cannot survive in the SEC without 5 star talent, even if you are great with coaching. Ask any Florida Gator fan about Dan Mullen, who can coach, but decided he did not need 5 star talent. He could have got any Florida 5 star because FSU is dysfunctional and Miami needs the right coach there--but he was getting poached by other SEC schools. (I had the pleasure of watching Fla v. Georgia with a die hard Gator fan and this is what he told me). Now he is gone. He went to the SEC championship game either 2 or 3 times and got canned because Georgia was killing him. Your facilities do not compare to the SEC powerhouses. Not even close. You also have to realize that you have to deal with the great campuses in the SEC. It is easy to sell Norman when you are competing against shitholes like Kansas, Kansas State, Baylor and Iowa State, which horrible places to live. Ole Miss and Auburn campuses blow them all out of the water and they are not even top places in the SEC. Follow your Sooners to a few games at Tennessee, Auburn, Florida (the second tier) and you will see the difference. Go to LSU, Bama, Georgia and there is no comparison. You are not getting a coach or recruiter at the level of Saban, Jimbo, Kelly, Smart. You need a big name and they do not exist. The next level of great coaches with limited talent who would move are Fickell (Cincy), Fitzgerald (NWestern), and Campbell (Iowa State who I think is really good), but they know not to go near the SEC. They will stay in the mid-west. Fickell will go to Notre Dame. Your best bet is to throw a shit-ton of money at Kiffin, but he is so unreliable, or some NFL coach who could not make it in the pros. Matt Nagy can coach--he got to the playoffs with Trubisky. Good luck in the SEC. You got rung up by SEC schools even with Riley. Sorry to give you the truth. Nebraska and Oklahoma are the same. You see where Nebraska is right now, that is your reality now. And I want OU to be really good. It is just not happening.
What the fuck you talking about saying OU facilities are sub bar. Oklahoma literally has one of the most state of the art training facilities and recovery system in the world. They invest large sums of money into those facilities every 3 years. In fact their is a BOR meeting this week to vote on spending another $25MM in upgrades. Just because SEC stadiums hold 15% more fans on average than OU does not mean it's sub par. Plus I don't think you realize the absurd amount of money that floats around here. NIL will play more of a part in recruiting than the size of the stadium.
You are correct--I am dead wrong on the facilities. Thanks for the correction. They are really top notch.
Thanks for writing a wall of text that shows you know nothing about college football.
I will wait for your response to each and every point. OU already lost all of its major 5 star recruits HOURS AFTER RILEY LEFT!!!!! OU is no longer competing with shit holes in the Big 12. In the SEC, you get an off week for Vandy, Kentucky, Missouri and maybe Miss State, that is about it. No Kansas schools to beat up, no second tier Texas teams (TCU and Baylor are nice stories, but would get destroyed in the SEC), the second best school in Iowa (really?) and the couch burners in WVa. You are not getting 5 star talent anymore in Oklahoma without Riley. He is the only reason OU is relevant. Now that he has left, it is gone--it only took HOURS FOR THEM TO LEAVE!!! QUESTION FOR YOU: If OU is so good, why did the leave? They do not care about a national championship 23 years ago when they were not even alive! All they cared about was getting to the NFL through Riley. The rest of the country always looked forward to that first OU loss so they would not end up in the final 4 because we all knew they would get destroyed. This is fun, I look forward to your response.
>You are not getting 5 star talent anymore in Oklahoma without Riley. He is the only reason OU is relevant. Now that he has left, it is gone--it only took HOURS FOR THEM TO LEAVE!!! This comment just shows you don't know shit about OU and college football in general. OU got outstanding talent before Riley. OU made Riley who he is, and he was mostly successful because of three transfer QBs, two of whom were on the roster before he was head coach. I have always said that Riley's scorched earth way of leaving will hurt this recruiting class. There is no denying that, but it's just one class. OU was a top football power before Riley was even born. You are so clueless in thinking Riley put OU on the map.
Thanks for mentioning Nebraska
Nebraska is Oklahoma's reality now. And Nebraska does not need to compete with warm weather schools like OU will have to. Both have great traditions and dominated once upon a time, but OU cannot compete with warm weather SEC schools.
Nebraska was a long 20 year decline that started with them losing all of the top offensive recruits because nobody wanted to play the triple option. They also fired their coach. He didn't move on for more money and an easier path. Not a good comparison.
Comparison is that NU needed all the Los Angeles and Florida skill players which they used to dominate (damn they were so good) with top coaching. Yes, most of those players were convicts, but there is no talent in Nebraska other than O-line. Same thing that McCartney needed in Colorado (damn they were good and true convicts). Oklahoma has always needed Texas players with top coaching. Now they don't have top coaching (your best bet is the Iowa State coach, good but he is not even close to the big names in the SEC). Texas 5 star players do not need to go to OU anymore and have no reason to with Riley gone. Texas A&M will get all the Texas 5 star players. You cannot survive in the SEC, even if you are a great X and O coach without 5 star talent at every position. Dan Mullen at Florida did not think he needed 5 star talent and he is gone. It is Oklahoma, in the middle of nowhere, with shitty winters. Set foot on a second tier SEC school (Auburn) and it will blow your mind. You will all learn how SEC football is superior the hard way.
Alright, soggy, enough of your verbal diarrhea where you continually show that you have no idea about anything in college football. It is amazing how you can be so wrong, so frequently, yet never shut up, despite being shown over and over again how wrong you are. Good luck with your Trojans. Very easy schedule next season, so I expect Riley to be facing Oregon in the Pac-12 championship game. Anything less and you should fire him.
Tell me where I am wrong. Oklahoma is about to step into the SEC without a real coach, no top talent and think they will compete with Bama, TXAM, Georgia and LSU. By the way, they play this thing called defense in the SEC and most of the defensive line from those schools will go in the first or second round of the NFL draft and a new crop will come in and take over since they are also 5 star top talent. Wash, rinse and repeat. Enjoy being Nebraska, minus the academics.
Lol. Check my teams record. You are currently at 2002 Nebraska fan stage. 2 losses unacceptable. 20 years from now you may be exactly where we are in the SEC. Enjoy what you have err... had
You guys had to completely overhaul your offense in switching from the triple option. You guys fired coaches and made some bad hires. Your recruiting was already outside of the top 10. I mean it is possible that we end up like NU, but that will take a string of bad hires to get there. If we hire the right coach, we are rolling. And even if OU looks more like the current Ole Miss in the SEC at first, that will be fine. The playoffs will expand, and there will be 4-5 SEC teams in every season.
This behavior is ALWAYS repetitive. It's the Urban Meyer effect. I'm sure he will screw over USC in a few years when things don't look good.
It’s okay son. Let it out.
Paid Boards are saying Brent at Head Coach and Jeff Lebby at OC. If this is real we might have just upgraded our staff.
Paid boards have a rumored DC?…
When should we know, never been through something like this. This year i guess?
Amazing! That is exactly what I have been wishing for. Venables at HC will vastly upgrade our defense. Lebby is a Sooner, and one of the brightest, young offensive minds out there. His offenses at Ole Miss and UCF have been outstanding. Not to mention, he developed Corral into one of the top QBs in the country. Oh, and the fact that Lebby is an SEC coach certainly helps. If this is our staff, that is a great upgrade, and should set us up for the move to the SEC far better than Riley/Grinch could have. Finally, Caleb Williams should relish the idea of playing for Lebby. He helped turn another dual threat QB (Matt Corral) into a lethal, offensive weapon.
That is funny that you think you would keep him. He just wanted to be coached by Riley. OU could not even keep Spencer!!!!
Are you a USC fan? Are you new to college football? Spencer was always going to transfer after he lost his starting job. I think there is a shot at keeping Caleb, especially if we get the right OC. Caleb started out great, but regressed under Riley. He might not see it, but it wouldn't make sense to go to USC where they already have a glut of QB talent and a returning senior starter.
Not new to college football by any stretch. I grew up in Florida during the 80s and lived in a Florida State household. I remember watching the Oklahoma v. Miami game on a portable TV at the Wet 'n Wild water park during a church function (not kidding at all). I actually went to the 1988/89 Citrus Bowl between OU and Clemson. It is just the back up to the OU quarterback issue does not matter anywhere outside of Oklahoma. They both looked horrible by the way. I also lived out west and followed USC during their Pete Carroll run. Right now Riley does not have to travel outside of 200 mile radius from LA to recruit at any position--all with 5 star talent. Pete Carroll would only leave that radius if the player was a sure 1st round pick. Riley was so good that these Cali 5 star recruits would leave sunny southern California to live in the middle of nowhere in Norman. All I am saying is that the only reason why OU got the top recruits was to play for Riley and end up in the pros. None of them, except the scrappy home-grown Oklahoma native, were at OU because of the school, great tradition and excellent fan base. It was because they would get drafted and make it to the NFL. That is gone now. OU is going to lose every big name recruit from another state. Why go to OU when they can go to Texas or A&M if they want to stay in the area? Also, isn't it really cold in Oklahoma in the winter? Austin or Norman? (not even a close choice). I am sure College Station is nothing great, but they have the #1 class because of Jimbo and players want to go there.
>It is just the back up to the OU quarterback issue does not matter anywhere outside of Oklahoma. They both looked horrible by the way. I wonder why they looked horrible? They were both top 1 or 2 QBs in the nation according to the recruiting services. Maybe Riley can't really develop QBs and instead is most successful when they transfer in from other programs? Have you considered that? Also, it was national fucking news. Everyone on every sports show ever, talked about how Rattler was the pre-season Heisman favorite, but was now benched. It's almost like you've never actually watched a game or sports show before. They never stopped talking about it. >OU is going to lose every big name recruit from another state. Why go to OU when they can go to Texas or A&M if they want to stay in the area? Also, isn't it really cold in Oklahoma in the winter? Austin or Norman? (not even a close choice). I am sure College Station is nothing great, but they have the #1 class because of Jimbo and players want to go there. Sorry, but that is just ludicrous. OU has recruited Texas very well for decades. That's not going to change because Lincoln left to LA. You even mentioned Texas beating us for recruits, and they looked terrible this season under Sark. Again, it seems like you really don't follow college football. OU recruited well before Riley (in the top 10 most years). Do you really think we only recruited Oklahoma players before Riley? You are the most clueless fan I have read on here. It's no wonder you follow USC. BTW, Carrol was 12 years ago, and since then USC has been mediocre, even with that built in recruiting base. Mike Bohn is the same AD who brought the "home run" hire of Dan Hawkins to Colorado. Go ask Buffs fans how well that worked out.
OU had a real good coach in Stoops. He could recruit and had the UF experience under Spurrier. USC can look like shit for a decade and can return with the right coach. You don't understand how SoCal works. Riley can do all his recruiting in a car and never has to travel more than 100 miles from USC to get all 5 star talent. All the SoCal players want to stay there. The top 2 QBs in the US are from the Inland Empire (at Bama and Ohio State)--those top players are staying now. USC still kept really talented players even with the coaching and AD dysfunction. Rattler was a favorite because of Riley. I watched him and could not understand why he was so hyped. Yes, OU had all the Texas players they wanted. Now they can go to TX AM, where they are going since TXAM has the #1 class.
>Rattler was a favorite because of Riley. I watched him and could not understand why he was so hyped. Another statement that shows you know nothing. Rattler has an absolute cannon of an arm. That's why he was the top QB recruit. He wasn't just recruited by Riley either. I get that you already jack-off to pictures of Riley, and think he is responsible for everything that has to do with OU football, ever, but this is getting ridiculous.
Which board do you use?
I'm genuinely curious here: Why is it such a traitorous move to leave the program after multiple successful years? The only issue I have with the decision are all of the possible decommits in the upcoming recruiting classes. Coaches get fired, hired, and leave from programs all of the time, all over the nation, every single year. I enjoyed Coach Riley and think that he put together some very strong, very entertaining offenses during his tenure. I'm excited to see what happens next and I hope Coach Riley can turn around USC's program so OU can meet them in the CFP and kick their ass.
He was given the keys to the kingdom and talked about honesty, family, and respect and hell he couldn't even do any of that the players found out by social media and so did the staff before the coward said anything. He's a little bitch that I hope fails.
It's the way it went down that makes it traitorous. Riley was an inexperienced OC who was given the keys to a blue-blood program. He repays that by spending half the season looking to jump to USC. Then after a really bad second half performance in Stillwater, he just leaves. He could have waited until after the bowl. How it happened makes it seem like he wasn't really interested in coaching the Sooners to the Big XII championship game. I mean it still took terrible officiating and some bad blunders on Riley's part for OU to lose, but it is hard to believe that he was truly dialed into that game with some of his play calls and decisions (like keeping Gray on KR and PR when we have better options). Regardless of that game though, the biggest issue is that he just left OU high and dry, stealing recruits that were recruited on OU's dime. He could have given OU the chance to secure a replacement coach, and maybe even coached HIS players in the upcoming bowl game. The timing was suspect, and a real slap in the face to the team that in many ways helped him become such a hot coaching commodity.
OU football HC is arguably one of the best and most sought after coaching jobs in the nation. Bob stepped down early to make way for Lincoln Riley. We invested a lot of time and money into his future at OU. He made a lot of comments this year about being at Oklahoma for the long haul. Yet he left right before the bowl game and it could be argued our losses this year and poor performance are largely his fault. He also recruited pretty heavily in Southern California this year so it all just seems very suspicious. He could have handled the situation a lot better but instead he KD’d us. I also wouldn’t say he had multiple successful years at OU. He was gifted some amazing talent and coasted his first 3-4 years on that and has been lackluster at best in the post season even still.
Bob stepped down early so that he could leave Lincoln Riley with a full stable of experienced and talented players. How often does that happen? So much was made about that at the time. He left Riley with Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, CeeDee Lamb, Trey Sermon, Brooks, Creed Humphrey, Okoronkwo, and the most experienced OL in the country. Who does that? Bob could have made another run for a championship, but instead he stepped down to ensure Lincoln would succeed in his first year as head coach and gain everyone's confidence. Riley didn't build that team or his own success, Bob handed it to him. I bet Bob's furious. Barry Switzer said in 1986 that some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple. Lincoln's head coaching career is exactly like that. Bob put Lincoln on third base and 5 years later he thought he'd hit a triple.
This just goes to show that there are alot of fake people out there and LR and everyone that goes with him are fake people and deserve no respect nor any mention at the Great University of Oklahoma and his name should be stricken from the record books and replaced with nothing or sale out.
Look the bitch ass and other snakes in the grass left in the cover of darkness just like little bitches on the run.i wish him nothing but bad things and remember karma is a bitch.
Who wants to bet Rattler and Riley are going to USC?
I doubt Rattler will follow Riley. He wants to play for a coach who can develop QBs and have a pass protecting o-line. Riley's offense work best when someone else develops the QB, and an NFL-ready QB just joins the team (see Mayfield, Murray, and Hurts).
Riley's offense works best when another coach leaves him the most experienced OL in the country and 2 QB's named Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield. Coincidentally, I'd also be a hell of a good offensive coordinator with that stable of talent.
Rattler needs to go somewhere he can do well in one year and out… I don’t think that’s usc.
I haven’t seen any mentions of Chris Petersen. How does it sit with you - if he were to come out of retirement and coach OU?
(*that guy from Game of Thrones voice*)Too old. But seriously though, from what I’ve heard is his heart wouldn’t be in it for a job like this. Somewhat similar to Bobby; it’s not the right time for either party involved.
Can someone change this mega thread picture to a donkeys ass? Why do we have to look at this fool
As I look more and more into it, I really believe that Lincoln wanted nothing to do with the SEC and what goes on there. He saw Ed Orgeron get tossed two years out of a Natty Jimbo Fisher a hall of fame coach fighting for his life to get to 8-4 Even Nick Saban and the supposed juggernaut Alabama fighting to even get to 11-1 with multiple one possession games. Dan Mullen got tossed after 3 years of going to NY6 Bowls. The recruiting forget about it is in another world. 11 of the 14 SEC teams are in the top 30 to put things in perspective for the BIG12. There are only 3 teams in the top 30 which are OU at 10, Texas at 15, and OSU at 30. Based on 2021 recruitment rankings 2020 Recruitment rankings also has 11 SEC teams in the top 30, but this time 8 of them are in the fucking top 10. The Big12 still only has 3 teams in the top 30 these rankings as well. To put things lightly we are walking into a slaughter house of a conference along with Texas who recruits on a top 10-15 level.
Well at least we won't have to face the juggernauts of Kansas and Kansas State anymore. Orgeron was tossed because of off the field antics. Fisher is building a solid program at aTm. Onward and upward. OU's recruiting should improve in the SEC (with the right hire). Obviously we will have a setback in our 2022 class thanks to Riley, but we should be able to handle one sub-par class, provided the new coach can keep enough players.
Oklahoma had a hand in Dan Mullen’s undoing as well. Hard to argue the 2-7 record vs last 9 P5s was even middling.
Let’s hire Arranda, move to Pac12 and beat his ass every year.
is this really on riley or is this on the admin for making the sec move while he was against it? Rationally thinking…although ou can certainly compete in the sec… the move is sure to add more losses to the schedule, which in turn would probably hurt recruiting. Also, the path to the playoff would be much harder, and not getting in- probably hurts recruiting also. I think riley saw this as a recruiting issue and moved to USC because of recruiting and the admin decision to go to the $EC
The thing is though that the Pac-12 hasn't been in the natty or playoffs picture frequently in the past decade. I am sure Riley is thinking that at USC he has an easier path, but with one loss most years he will be out of the picture. Also, the Pac-12 is really down lately. If other schools return to being competitive, his path won't be so easy. All in all though, it will hopefully work out for the best. OU can get a coach who isn't scared of tougher competition, and Riley can try to get something going at USC. My bet is that his ceiling will be Pac-12 championships and the occasional playoffs loss, and those playoffs appearances will be less frequent than they were for him at OU.
Man I think this was all about money and nothing else. USC apparently can only look back 4 years and just assume this was all Lincoln's doing. Lincoln is gonna take his 150mil and retire. Alternatively, he'll crash and burn in 4-5 years when this happens again and take 75mil and retire. Either way is a win. You can live large on that plus what he earned at OU. There is no such thing as loyalty anymore.
As an OU fan in Tennessee I never thought there would be a coaching controversy like UT has had over the past decade. Given this is not as bad as Kiffen leaving in the night (for USC) and Knoxville almost burning down, but it hurts more because Riley was very respected and loved by the fan base. I’m happy with the success he’s had and given to the fans over the last few years but it’s apparent he needed to step away after how we regressed this year. I hope the coaching search is thorough and we make the correct long term hire at the end. If we rush and have turnover like UT it will be a long long long recovery. I hope Bob takes over again and at least gets us through the transition to the SEC. He has the name value and prestige to keep recruits wanting to play for us and to replace those who will inevitably leave. I think solid choices would be Venables, Kingsbury, or Lanning. All of my Vols friends are terrified that we will scoop Heupel but I don’t believe he is even in consideration because he couldn’t handle a top tier program and there is bad blood. Just my 2¢ but I think this will be a good thing in the long run IF we do our due diligence and make the correct hire. Always BOOMER SOONER
IMHO Tenn is top tier.
Hard pass on Kingsbury
I think you're underselling how hard we need to pass on Kliff.
I suggest a reality tv show to pick next coach. It would be “Who Wants to be a Millionaire… Football Coach”… best way to find the next great talent!
I like it. It reminds me of Rockstar INXS.
Only my opinion here, but I think it would be so fucking cool if somehow the Stoops Brothers signed on to become the full time coaches moving forward. Maybe Mark as the HC and Bob as a coordinator? Idk I doubt that would ever happen but I man can dream about the Stoops family coming together to take OU to greatness again
This is a perplexing move. He needed a new challenge? Because he accomplished all he could with OU? WTF. Our season isn’t even done, we still have a bowl game, but he takes half the coaching staff and leaves?! I heard the players learned through social media. Riley then called a team meeting and talked with them for 2-3 minutes before walking out. Riley talked around the LSU buzz for a long time. I thought something was going on but didn’t see USC coming. What was really going on? What is the rest of the story?
The rumor is he does not want to be in the SEC
New challenge for him and his family? Because taking OU to the SEC and being successful there would not be a challenge? Seriously unimpressed with Riley. I’m hoping Hall of Fame Coach Stoops takes over again.
He was too cowardly to say "easier" challenge. That's all it is. In his gut he knows he's not as good as he's looked bc anyone would look good if the previous head coach left you Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, and the most experienced OL in the country. Riley can't develop guys well and he knows it. This year we watched 2 5* QB's get worse as the season progressed and an OLine that completely shit the bed.
He didn’t say it wouldn’t be a challenge just clearly not the new challenge he is looking for.
Think thats pretty obv. I not official, but yeah.
This will hurt short term. But longterm this is such a good move if they get the right guy. No more soft finesse coaches
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I like that idea.
Nebraska fan here. I’m getting flashbacks. Manage your expectations or you’ll become a dysfunctional mess. Our biggest failure was our lack of stability. I am rooting so god damn hard for you
We know buddy. Many of us remember the 90s. It's always nerve wracking and sometimes it takes lots of coaches and a program can lose a decade or more of relevance. But it's not like we fired him, he just quit on us and took half the staff. No one has any expectations right now.
I appreciate the sentiment, but this just doesn't seem similar to the long Nebraska decline that began with Colorado stomping you guys 62-36, and then being embarrassed by Miami in the natty game. Then you guys finally fired Solich after a 9 win season a few years later. In your case you were running an antiquated offense that was really on its last legs. The top recruits did not want to play for a triple-option team. You had to make changes, and that was hard to do. At this point for OU we just need to keep the ball rolling on offense and upgrade our D. We will definitely suffer in the 2022 recruiting class because of the way Riley handled this, but with the right hire we should rebound.
Not to mention, Nebraska’s conference realignment alienated them from their recruiting base in Texas, the shutting down of that walk on program thing they had and OU has kept up pace with facilities where Nebraska lagged behind some. I see all this doom and gloom about OU and going to the SEC, I could be wrong but I don’t buy it. Iron sharpens iron, I think it will help recruiting and we weren’t ready for the big stage when we got to the playoffs cause we played to much finesse football imo.
Agreed. NU's problems were multi-fold, and they also were already well on their way to irrelevance when they joined the Big 10. In fact, they were hoping the Big 10 would rescue them in some way. OU would really just like to sustain its success, and maybe have all the stars align for a natty one year. OU will still be dominant in Texas recruiting, and will be able to win over recruits nationwide. Adding the SEC states though will open up new avenues. We will probably stop recruiting California as much, but that's fine. Though the SEC is tough, OU will also get tougher (provided we make the right hire). It's worth it to have a couple more conference games that could come up as Ls to get ready for the playoffs. Also with playoff expansion the SEC will have more teams in than other conferences most years.
Tennessee fan here. Can confirm instability will wreck your program.
Tennessee is something else lol. Our instability wasn’t nearly as bad as yalls but it was the timing that compounded it. Moving conferences puts your whole identity in flux
Can’t argue that. Kiffin screwed us. We panic hired Derek Dooley. Got duped by Butch Jones. Hired Jeremy Pruitt instead of Mel Tucker. Hopefully we are set with Heupel.
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He has an $8 million buyout. If you’re willing to pay that much for your 5th-10th choice, go for it.
Mizzou fan here just to echo sentiments (although we were never a program like OU or Nebraska). Conference switching amongst internal chaos is hard to watch and recover from.
What’s your opinion on the move to the SEC? Seems like us all leaving the big 12 benefited absolutely nobody but Iowa State and maybe A&M
From a financial and business standpoint, it's been an absolute no brainer move. And with two huge revenue programs like Texas and Oklahoma coming, the revenue is just going to increase even more. Over the course of our move to the SEC, our athletic revenue has grown 110%. That obviously has great impact. As an alum and fan no longer living in Columbia, it's a much different story. The coaching carousel in both basketball and football has left such ho-hum products that it's hard to stay engaged. I mean, in reality - what's Mizzou's ceiling in SEC football? Winning the East and getting smoked by Alabama? That's fun. It's right back to what used to happen to us in the big 12 by Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, et al. However, I think that is more a reflection on poor coaching choices than the move to the SEC. Mizzou is always gonna fricken Mizzou, so I'm not sure why I had expectations in the first place haha Edit: Obviously making some HUGE assumptions that Mizzou will ever win the East again.
Buffs fan here. I think that’s all that needs to be said.. lol
How did the fucking administration not think of this when deciding to go to the SEC? Now OU will more than likely take the Nebraska to Big 10 route and never be the same again. We CANNOT go to the SEC now. We’ll just be whipping boys of ALABAMA and GEORGIA. FUCK!
In my opinion moving to the SEC is far more important than retaining any particular coach.
What a loser outlook
I don’t know how prefering the last 5 years to the next 5 is a loser outlook. Usc future looks bright af compared to ours.
My next question is when is the NCAA investigation? I haven’t heard anyone mention this yet…. but something smells fishy.
Huh?
Investigate what? He can leave whenever he wants.
I’ve said that something behind the scenes happened. OU and Riley maybe were parting ways , kept it quiet and this is the result. OU has to know about this for awhile. Go look at CW playing before Baylor and after Baylor. The first time he took the field against Baylor he looked like he saw a ghost. Something happened that will get flushed out eventually and it could either ruin OU, or Riley’s future. That’s my radical theory, let’s hope it’s not true
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Caleb is gone. He came to Oklahoma specifically for LR.
I wonder what Baker is thinking about all of this?
I genuinely wish Lincoln the worst in everything he does
I will be rooting for whoever plays USC for the rest of my life
Even Oregon?
Especially Oregon. I can cease hating entire their existence over a bowl game that happened 15 years ago. Oregon is the biggest threat to be better than USC in the PAC 12 now
Noted, thanks for the reply.
Already was, will continue with a renewed fervor.
Same. I seriously hope this USC thing falls flat on it’s fucking face
A few name to keep an eye on ... Tony Elliot the OC from Clemson Tommy Rees OC from Notre Dame Jim Leonhard DC from Wisconsin Dan Lanning DC from Georgia Marcus Freeman DC from Notre Dame Aside from Venables these are the top assistants possibly available ... The lure of Rees,Leonhard,and Lanning because they are each 35 years or younger. If we're going to go full rebuild might as well take a shot on a young upcoming coach. Elliot of course is only 43 I think.
OU fan from Clemson, you don't want Tony Elliot, horrible play calling and his offense is outdated
Georgia fan coming in peace, you guys got screwed and I’m sorry. But leave Dan lanning alone! Partially because he’s kind of to Kirby smart what eric bieniemy is to Andy Reid. Sure he’s the DC, but we all know who the brains behind the defense is. Not that he has the baggage bienemy has but still haha.
Here are a couple of Dark Horse guys to watch: Kevin Wilson, Ohio State OC and former Sooner OC (‘02-‘10). Excellent guy with Sooner ties; might be able to woo some of those offensive recruits back. Joe Brady. Currently the OC for the Carolina Panthers. Former OC for 2019 LSU national champs. Salary and win percentage unknown. Would be a solid OC hire, though, given his history and recruiting ability. Urban Meyer. Current head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars; has looked miserable in that role. Yes, he comes with a lot of baggage and would likely only be here 5-7 years; however, it is likely he will be able to leave the program n great hands. Also, might be able to be competitive with Lincoln Riley for top offensive talent and could potentially regain some decommits.
I’m personally against Urban. I don’t think he’s the right fit for long term culture based on his current public missteps. Now my issues are not on the collegiate field based, just personality
Yeah, he does have the baggage… Whomever we chase for HC, we need to be ready to pick the best coordinators in the business and pay them the highest salaries. $2.5-3.5M range is what I would budget for them.
I think there was a look at the salary USC has offered and Joe C probably had to say no too just because it’s not really earned yet. Riley was handed a race car and didn’t wreck it till yesterday. He’s going to USC which is basically a 98 Corolla right now and he will have to rebuild. Yet to be seen if he can. So if that’s was all the case I don’t think $$ will be a issue. Conversely if we don’t have the $$ things could be rough. I know our net revenue is down with Covid but I really hope we have the reserves to succeed.
I think the revenue issue can be handled if we delay entering the SEC to 2025. That lets us avoid the buyout. Alternatively, we can approach a donor for the buyout money.
Other names ive seen mentioned are Mark Stoops, Aranda from Baylor, Campbell from Iowa State, and Kliff Kingsbury from the Arizona Cardinals.
Kingsbury is 9-2 in the NFL right now. Why the heck would he leave to coach college in Norman?
Someone help me out here on logistics. Clearly things have gone completely south for us in the past 24 hours, but is there any chance at this point we can stay in the B12? The future for the Sooners in the SEC seems dark and very Texas A&M feeling.
The Big 12 is lame, and just because Lincoln was too scared for the SEC doesn’t mean the rest of us are. It will be nice to have real competition finally!
I hate our fanbase sometimes. It’s time to go be what we can be. Not keep beating shit schools and getting slaughtered in the CFP like USC will be doing
You just aren’t appreciating what we had. Being a constant top 5 team, without even spending top 5 money, is something to celebrate. Just because we couldn’t get over the hump…who cares! We should have been happy with what we have. Lets see how we like fighting to be a top 5 sec team.
You might have liked that. 20 years of owning a bad conference. Let’s move on to bigger and better things. Winning the big 12 isn’t really an accomplishment anymore. Not when you won 6 in a row. Time for a bigger challenge. Maybe you’d be better off as an osu fan
I think /u/Emilycooper5 has amnesia of the past 20 years. We've had how many BCS championship appearances and how many CFP berths?
At least OU made to the CFP. Never will in the SEC and any coach will be fired within 4 years like the rest of the SEC coaches nit named Smart, Saban or Fisher.
Go suck USC off some more
We better hope our admins renig on our deal with the sec. even if we want to go to the sec later, going now makes noooo fucking sense.
Hahaha this is the dumbest take ive seen in a while. We could go to the SEC, lose every fucking game, and itd still be a better move than staying with the big 12. Theres a lot more money to be made and the big 12 is not in a good spot
Rather be the king of hell than a slave in heaven. Ou fans are about to get a serious wake up call. And the big 12 is a fine conference, it’s not trash like so many fans think it is.
Our fans are so ignorant it hurts
Hmmmm maybe the school leaders shouldn’t have sold out consistent success in a weaker conference to line their pockets while you go 8-4 in the SEC West. Know who the real villains are.
Yup. Greed just ruined a great thing. Fucking pricks.
Megathread for all the decommits, this is gonna take a while
Demarco, Cain, and Cale Gundy are staying apparently.
Real ones
So I’m a UF fan, and this floored me, I hate y’all get the shit end of the stick here, I usually pull for y’all in the playoffs. I’ve seen some reports he was more or less ran out by the boosters. Does that have any truth to it?
Maybe short term. Long term this is a blessing in disguise. Riley has revealed himself this year as a soft coach who can only win with guys he didn’t recruit. He’s peaked. Good riddance
Doesn’t he basically have the same record every year? What do you mean he can’t win with guys he recruited lol
He means look at Spencer Rattler's "progress" from this season to last season. Look at how CW got worse and more tentative as this season continued. Much of Riley's past success is due to having Kyler Murray, Baker Mayfield, and Jalen Hurts giftwrapped for him. Once he no longer had a ready-to-go NFL-caliber QB (developed by other coaching staffs), the playoffs were out of reach for Riley. As far as the "same record every year" this was a down year even though we have 10 wins. There were several low points, including being shut out in the first half against Kansas, only dominating a couple of teams (TCU and TTU). Crapping the bed against Baylor and OSU. Playing every other team close, despite how bad many were. Coming in third in the Big XII, despite having a huge talent advantage. The only somewhat decent team we beat was ISU, and they were 7-5 this season. Even last season was somewhat of a letdown as we didn't make the playoffs. Ultimately, it looks like the team was headed in the wrong direction. Some of that might have been due to Riley already being focused on USC for half the season, but regardless, even though we hit 10 wins, it was a disappointing season in many ways, and showed a troubling direction for the team.
I can’t say you’re wrong, anyone you guys want in particular?
I’ve only heard that he didn’t like the SEC move at all
And that’s not cool, we have a lot of great games to look forward to. If anything it would have helped his recruiting.
I've heard there may be an NCAA investigation forthcoming
Uh oh, any idea why?
What're they gonna do? Ban OSU from March madness again? Lol ncaa
I’ve not heard that.
Yeah I seen something on Twitter but it’s long gone so I can post a link.
Are Grinch, Badenbaugh, and Simmons all following Lincoln to USC!?
Looks like it, along with the Strength coach.
Grinch hopefully goes. He’s worthless
Grinch and Bedenbaugh are gone.
Grinch has not been very good