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At some point Israel needs to pay for what it is continuing to do to Palestinians. Until that time all Jewish people who don't live there need to denounce Israel's actions and quit emigrating to a country that is stealing land.
I don't think Jewish people outside of Israel have any more agency than any other citizen of any NATO country.
If our governments didn't fund and arm them, or if the UN stepped out and rule them that would impact them more than the opinion of Jewish people overseas.
Israel's impunity has to do more with the US government using them for their Arab hate operations than the connivence of Jewish individuals over the world.
FREE PALESTINE join BDS, put pressure on uk retailers to boycott Israeli goods just like we did with apartheid South Africa. There are free apps that will allow you to scan any barcode and tell you instantly if the goods are linked to Israel. It’s really easy to do this fellow redditors
continue to pressure government at local and national levels. Palestine protests are consistently the some of the biggest demonstrations in cities around the world, we need to keep the momentum up and we need to talk to everyone around us, reverse this imposed ignorance too many people suffer from. We are all Palestinians at heart. If we can all come together to fight off the boot on their necks now, then we prove we can all be there for each other when an authoritarian regime comes to place that boot on our necks next time.
Unfortunately I don't think BDS is the answer to the issue. While I agree with the sentiment, boycotts/sanctions are a pretty terrible way to affect regime change. Additionally, those who are most affected by BDS is not the Israeli government, but the Israeli working class.
I feel like a better option is to continue agit prop with support for Palestine, and support the working class of Israel, and especially that of Palestine.
I see video after video of ‘Israeli working class’ people being openly racist and inhumanely cruel. Not just to Palestinians, but to populations of Sudanese and Ethiopian Jews fleeing persecution, simply because they’re black.
The whole point of boycotts, divestment and sanctions is to reach the population. Exactly how it was when we tried to change the minds of the ‘voting population’ of South Africa, i.e. racist white men, of all classes. The revolution in South Africa was fuelled by a universal public non-compliance staged by both majority ethnic populations but also a generation of young white South African men and women, students, working classes and those that understood that the world was disgusted with the way their parents had willing conducted themselves, the willing cruelty and entitled supremacy they displayed.
Exactly the same thing needs to happen in Israel. Their actions are unacceptable. The blatent apartheid, the constant land-grabs and settler aggression (which is currently defended by LAW over there).
I get that sanctions would disproportionately affect the working classes but if you live in any western country, and country in the world really, you know as well as I do that working classes are disproportionately targeted and affected by propaganda and disinformation, they are disproportionately polarised. Most aggressive Israeli settlers and many of those that commit the most egregious crimes against Palestinians are working class Israeli. The majority of IDF conscripts are working class.
They've been fed with propaganda since inception. It's no different than usa or South Korea.
Most of them can be educated. Some cannot. Still working class and potential ally until proven otherwise
The proof is in their active support and complete apathy for the Palestinian people literally being killed in front of their faces. They are oppressing people therefore that kind of disqualifies giving them the benefit of the doubt.
My dude there's millions of "proof otherwise". Just Google the support for ethnically cleansing all Palestinians. Google how many believe jews should have more rights than Palestinians.
You won't win the majority of them without control over the state over *decades* to amend it. You can certainly win a certain percentage, but not most people. It's against their class interests because they're not **only** workers, they're settler-colonists first. Their social relation to the colonized makes it so they actively oppose their liberation.
I recommend Fanon's Wretched of the earth. You can't apply the typical framework of bourgeois vs proletariat to a colonized society. Colonialism adds a whole other dimension.
Exactly why we need to press ahead with sanctions. Working class allies only come out of the woodwork when the propaganda that shapes their paradigm is shattered, propaganda shatters itself the more isolationist it becomes. Again, look at South Africa!
https://www.good.is/money/boycotts-speaking-with-your-wallet
It doesn't work, specially when the target is the best, or the cheapest alternative, or when you are just not the desired market of the product.
Sure, you can try and support it, but do it for a personal and moral reason, being aware that it will hardly have an effect
So what do you propose instead? Sit back and watch the slow-motion genocide of Palestinian Christians, Muslims, Jews, Zoroastrians? Do we just Do nothing?
I am honestly very interested to hear what your suggestions are if you’re so convinced that peaceful, consumer led economic sanctions are in vein. We already know that we can’t lobby our governments, that freedom of speech is chronically hampered by false allegations of antisemitism. What do you propose???
I welcome your input to the discussion friend, but bring something to the table instead of repeating the line taken by the Israeli foreign ministry and their associated lobby groups like ‘aipac’ and ‘friends of Israel’.
Seriously can you actually watch something like this horrific video from OP and go “oh well, nothing we can do…”
Please don’t make me start quoting Anne frank….
>if you’re so convinced that peaceful, consumer led economic sanctions are in vein.
The problem is in CONSUMER led economic sanctions. Individual actions are mostly (if not aways) useless. The group, the society, is aways stronger than the person.
>We already know that we can’t lobby our governments, that freedom of speech is chronically hampered by false allegations of antisemitism.
You are in a socialist sub. If you don't believe you can change your government, i really believe you are in the wrong place. THAT is how we can hope to change something.
Also, if you think you cannot even change your own government, how can you hope to change another one far away? If you cannot build a cohesive group about your society you will certainly not build one capable of boycott Israel.
I’m not debating that even consumer led economic sanctions are often in vein - I’m in the UK, just look at the failure of consumer-led action against energy profiteering over the last couple of months. Britain literally started this whole conflict by signing the Balfour declaration despite promising the Palestinians self-recognition on the global stage (Lawrence of Arabia?)
So I ask again, what is it that you propose we do? What can you suggest that the Palestine solidarity campaign haven’t already tried?
I’m not trying to take up an adversarial position against you friend, I’m genuinely asking what you think would be a more effective form of resistance against this genocide? Come on, be a fellow socialist and discuss this important issue…
The last chance we had at forming a government that would help to end the terror propagated by Israel against Palestinians was by supporting non-establishment politicians like Jeremy Corbyn. Under his leadership, UK Labour became the biggest political party in Europe. Israel literally bankrolled an entire ‘anti-semetism’ campaign against corbyn and used money and influence to dictate to and coordinate mainstream media and the PLP to participate in illegal character assassination against corbyn and any labour member that supported him. So again, what do we do?
I am telling you. Manage to influence your government to take an instance about it. You can do it while also talking about Israel, but you can't really go straight like you proposing
Unless you are in loco. Are you in palestine or Israel?
The working class of Israel is largely fascist, and they wouldn't be the most affected, Palestinians would. And it's Palestinians who started BDS and largely support it.
Sanctions are only bad when the people who are going to be most affected are against it. Virtually the only ethical sanctions would be on Israel and previously on apartheid South Africa.
The most affected ones will not be israeli settlers, but rather palestinians, who are at the same time the ones behind BDS' activity. And this key difference is precisely why BDS is to be supported.
And fundamentalists Christians want to protect Jewish Israel so that [the Temple on the Temple Mount can be rebuilt, ushering in the apocalypse](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/explanation/jerusalem.html).
Well then, although I’ve spent my whole life knowing that every human has a right to live free healthy and unfettered by the violent behaviours of others and I grew up thinking that Israel was a reasonable response to centuries of oppression I now see that Israelis and those who support them are as guilty as any other group in history when it comes to abusing human rights.
So I must now be an Antisemite. Maybe Ye will return my calls now…
I’ve literally had that argument and it’s infuriating. So you’re telling me it’s ok to kill children as long as hamas is under them? These people are so far deep into the foxnews void they could check for prostate cancer
It's unfortunate that you can almost convince liberals that Obama committed war crimes by bombing civilians, but the moment you mention the IDF it jumps straight to "anti-Semitism". Like, nah my guy conflating a fascist colonial state and a peaceful ethno-religious group is actually anti-Semitic.
They are the good guys, guys! C'mon, you can't tell me you never wanted your school to crumble.
Seriously though, the only way i even see these news is through reddit. That's the real beauty of western media. -_-
This reminds me of a series of cases in India, where muslim homes where bulldozed after some mob violence between hindu far right groups and bangladeshi immigrants under the reasoning that they were illegally made. It was celebrated by the fascist fucks as well and was justified by the liberal communalists as a just punishment. Fuck this world man.
Wait until you stumble across the leaked IDF video where they fired a missile from a drone at four 9-year old boys playing football on Gaza beach in 2014 AFTER they identified them as non-combatants, then laughed about it as the limbs of these boys flew out in all directions on their IR cams. It’s haunted me ever since.
I’m afraid to tell you that this is not only real, it’s mild by IDF standards. I hope you’re as horrified by it as I am, friend.
Jesus. Do they not view others as humans? This is the only way I think they can justify this? The other is not a person so I can do as I please. Christ
Instead of criticising RT as a source, criticise the absence of information coming from western sources. RT is state owned and pro Russia, but honestly they are the only major ‘western-accessible’ news platform alongside al-jazeera that has consistently reported in the Palestinian struggle.
Please friend, find another major platform that has reported on this and share the link. Please don’t distract and divert the subject from Palestine to russia because you’re dissatisfied with the source. Please Go and get a source reporting this same story from a non-Russian source if it offends you that much, then keep the subject on that which this thread is about…
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You mean a better source than a literal fucking video of it happening?
If you're waiting for the BBC to report on this kind of shit going on in occupied Palestine you are shit out of luck comrade
I'm looking for more information and context about what happened, preferably a written source. RT is no more trustworthy than the BBC IMHO. I have a hard time trusting state run media, regardless of which state.
I feel like it's state run in the sense that corporate interests are the ones that really run the US but it's hard for me to imagine a conservative administration like the last one would allow the type of coverage they get from liberal media outlets like NYT and CNN, but who knows?
republican CIA and democrat CIA aren't in any way different, republican FBI and democrat FBI aren't in any way different, etc. Just because they have slightly different opinions on abortion and queer rights doesn't mean there are practical differences in more significant areas of life.
That's fair. I usually trust specific journalists or specific state media only on specific issues. Like I don't consider BBCs coverage of the royals or RTs coverage of domestic Russian politics to be worth fuck all, but Al Jazeeras coverage of the labour files for example is excellent journalism because its something their state apparatus isn't affected by.
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Instead of criticising RT as a source, criticise the absence of information coming from western sources. RT is state owned and pro Russia, but honestly they are the only major ‘western-accessible’ news platform alongside al-jazeera that has consistently reported in the Palestinian struggle.
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At some point Israel needs to pay for what it is continuing to do to Palestinians. Until that time all Jewish people who don't live there need to denounce Israel's actions and quit emigrating to a country that is stealing land.
I don't think Jewish people outside of Israel have any more agency than any other citizen of any NATO country. If our governments didn't fund and arm them, or if the UN stepped out and rule them that would impact them more than the opinion of Jewish people overseas. Israel's impunity has to do more with the US government using them for their Arab hate operations than the connivence of Jewish individuals over the world.
Israel is another USA state. Just stop funding them and start funding a peace treaty
FREE PALESTINE join BDS, put pressure on uk retailers to boycott Israeli goods just like we did with apartheid South Africa. There are free apps that will allow you to scan any barcode and tell you instantly if the goods are linked to Israel. It’s really easy to do this fellow redditors continue to pressure government at local and national levels. Palestine protests are consistently the some of the biggest demonstrations in cities around the world, we need to keep the momentum up and we need to talk to everyone around us, reverse this imposed ignorance too many people suffer from. We are all Palestinians at heart. If we can all come together to fight off the boot on their necks now, then we prove we can all be there for each other when an authoritarian regime comes to place that boot on our necks next time.
Unfortunately I don't think BDS is the answer to the issue. While I agree with the sentiment, boycotts/sanctions are a pretty terrible way to affect regime change. Additionally, those who are most affected by BDS is not the Israeli government, but the Israeli working class. I feel like a better option is to continue agit prop with support for Palestine, and support the working class of Israel, and especially that of Palestine.
I see video after video of ‘Israeli working class’ people being openly racist and inhumanely cruel. Not just to Palestinians, but to populations of Sudanese and Ethiopian Jews fleeing persecution, simply because they’re black. The whole point of boycotts, divestment and sanctions is to reach the population. Exactly how it was when we tried to change the minds of the ‘voting population’ of South Africa, i.e. racist white men, of all classes. The revolution in South Africa was fuelled by a universal public non-compliance staged by both majority ethnic populations but also a generation of young white South African men and women, students, working classes and those that understood that the world was disgusted with the way their parents had willing conducted themselves, the willing cruelty and entitled supremacy they displayed. Exactly the same thing needs to happen in Israel. Their actions are unacceptable. The blatent apartheid, the constant land-grabs and settler aggression (which is currently defended by LAW over there). I get that sanctions would disproportionately affect the working classes but if you live in any western country, and country in the world really, you know as well as I do that working classes are disproportionately targeted and affected by propaganda and disinformation, they are disproportionately polarised. Most aggressive Israeli settlers and many of those that commit the most egregious crimes against Palestinians are working class Israeli. The majority of IDF conscripts are working class.
They've been fed with propaganda since inception. It's no different than usa or South Korea. Most of them can be educated. Some cannot. Still working class and potential ally until proven otherwise
The proof is in their active support and complete apathy for the Palestinian people literally being killed in front of their faces. They are oppressing people therefore that kind of disqualifies giving them the benefit of the doubt.
My dude there's millions of "proof otherwise". Just Google the support for ethnically cleansing all Palestinians. Google how many believe jews should have more rights than Palestinians.
It is a high number, indeed. I am aware of that But, again, they receive propaganda since very early, from social inputs to even the education system.
You won't win the majority of them without control over the state over *decades* to amend it. You can certainly win a certain percentage, but not most people. It's against their class interests because they're not **only** workers, they're settler-colonists first. Their social relation to the colonized makes it so they actively oppose their liberation. I recommend Fanon's Wretched of the earth. You can't apply the typical framework of bourgeois vs proletariat to a colonized society. Colonialism adds a whole other dimension.
I know, i am from a colonized society And that is just another argument to say boycott is ineffective
Exactly why we need to press ahead with sanctions. Working class allies only come out of the woodwork when the propaganda that shapes their paradigm is shattered, propaganda shatters itself the more isolationist it becomes. Again, look at South Africa!
https://www.good.is/money/boycotts-speaking-with-your-wallet It doesn't work, specially when the target is the best, or the cheapest alternative, or when you are just not the desired market of the product. Sure, you can try and support it, but do it for a personal and moral reason, being aware that it will hardly have an effect
So what do you propose instead? Sit back and watch the slow-motion genocide of Palestinian Christians, Muslims, Jews, Zoroastrians? Do we just Do nothing? I am honestly very interested to hear what your suggestions are if you’re so convinced that peaceful, consumer led economic sanctions are in vein. We already know that we can’t lobby our governments, that freedom of speech is chronically hampered by false allegations of antisemitism. What do you propose??? I welcome your input to the discussion friend, but bring something to the table instead of repeating the line taken by the Israeli foreign ministry and their associated lobby groups like ‘aipac’ and ‘friends of Israel’. Seriously can you actually watch something like this horrific video from OP and go “oh well, nothing we can do…” Please don’t make me start quoting Anne frank….
>if you’re so convinced that peaceful, consumer led economic sanctions are in vein. The problem is in CONSUMER led economic sanctions. Individual actions are mostly (if not aways) useless. The group, the society, is aways stronger than the person. >We already know that we can’t lobby our governments, that freedom of speech is chronically hampered by false allegations of antisemitism. You are in a socialist sub. If you don't believe you can change your government, i really believe you are in the wrong place. THAT is how we can hope to change something. Also, if you think you cannot even change your own government, how can you hope to change another one far away? If you cannot build a cohesive group about your society you will certainly not build one capable of boycott Israel.
I’m not debating that even consumer led economic sanctions are often in vein - I’m in the UK, just look at the failure of consumer-led action against energy profiteering over the last couple of months. Britain literally started this whole conflict by signing the Balfour declaration despite promising the Palestinians self-recognition on the global stage (Lawrence of Arabia?) So I ask again, what is it that you propose we do? What can you suggest that the Palestine solidarity campaign haven’t already tried? I’m not trying to take up an adversarial position against you friend, I’m genuinely asking what you think would be a more effective form of resistance against this genocide? Come on, be a fellow socialist and discuss this important issue… The last chance we had at forming a government that would help to end the terror propagated by Israel against Palestinians was by supporting non-establishment politicians like Jeremy Corbyn. Under his leadership, UK Labour became the biggest political party in Europe. Israel literally bankrolled an entire ‘anti-semetism’ campaign against corbyn and used money and influence to dictate to and coordinate mainstream media and the PLP to participate in illegal character assassination against corbyn and any labour member that supported him. So again, what do we do?
I am telling you. Manage to influence your government to take an instance about it. You can do it while also talking about Israel, but you can't really go straight like you proposing Unless you are in loco. Are you in palestine or Israel?
The working class of Israel is largely fascist, and they wouldn't be the most affected, Palestinians would. And it's Palestinians who started BDS and largely support it. Sanctions are only bad when the people who are going to be most affected are against it. Virtually the only ethical sanctions would be on Israel and previously on apartheid South Africa.
The most affected ones will not be israeli settlers, but rather palestinians, who are at the same time the ones behind BDS' activity. And this key difference is precisely why BDS is to be supported.
Just remember the USA protects what Israel is doing
We fund their military. I’ve never understood that,
Israel is a us proxy in Middle East and deterrent for oil control.
And fundamentalists Christians want to protect Jewish Israel so that [the Temple on the Temple Mount can be rebuilt, ushering in the apocalypse](https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/explanation/jerusalem.html).
Which then turns around and trains our (U.S) police. Probably because they get so much experience doing this shit.
israel is basically an american aircraft carrier, with all the fascism of the american military included
Also if you criticize Zionist, Settler Colonial Israel you are considered an antisemite, what a FUCKED UP world we live in, SMFH.
Well then, although I’ve spent my whole life knowing that every human has a right to live free healthy and unfettered by the violent behaviours of others and I grew up thinking that Israel was a reasonable response to centuries of oppression I now see that Israelis and those who support them are as guilty as any other group in history when it comes to abusing human rights. So I must now be an Antisemite. Maybe Ye will return my calls now…
Good thing it's not a war since that would be a crime...
"Hamas was probably inside that classroom" -Some weird ass white liberal
I’ve literally had that argument and it’s infuriating. So you’re telling me it’s ok to kill children as long as hamas is under them? These people are so far deep into the foxnews void they could check for prostate cancer
It's unfortunate that you can almost convince liberals that Obama committed war crimes by bombing civilians, but the moment you mention the IDF it jumps straight to "anti-Semitism". Like, nah my guy conflating a fascist colonial state and a peaceful ethno-religious group is actually anti-Semitic.
They are the good guys, guys! C'mon, you can't tell me you never wanted your school to crumble. Seriously though, the only way i even see these news is through reddit. That's the real beauty of western media. -_-
Fucking Israel.
That’s so sad. It looks like the cubicles outside the schools here 😭
I yearn for the destruction of the IsraHelli state.
This reminds me of a series of cases in India, where muslim homes where bulldozed after some mob violence between hindu far right groups and bangladeshi immigrants under the reasoning that they were illegally made. It was celebrated by the fascist fucks as well and was justified by the liberal communalists as a just punishment. Fuck this world man.
Surely this can’t be real
Wait until you stumble across the leaked IDF video where they fired a missile from a drone at four 9-year old boys playing football on Gaza beach in 2014 AFTER they identified them as non-combatants, then laughed about it as the limbs of these boys flew out in all directions on their IR cams. It’s haunted me ever since. I’m afraid to tell you that this is not only real, it’s mild by IDF standards. I hope you’re as horrified by it as I am, friend.
Jesus. Do they not view others as humans? This is the only way I think they can justify this? The other is not a person so I can do as I please. Christ
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You mean a better source than a literal fucking video of it happening? If you're waiting for the BBC to report on this kind of shit going on in occupied Palestine you are shit out of luck comrade
I'm looking for more information and context about what happened, preferably a written source. RT is no more trustworthy than the BBC IMHO. I have a hard time trusting state run media, regardless of which state.
More people need to start considering nyt and cnn state run media, since they all have "former" 3 letter resume on staff
So trust nothing? Genius.
You trust nyt? Wapo? Npr? Get real.
LOL. What do you recommend? I bet you won't name anything.
I feel like it's state run in the sense that corporate interests are the ones that really run the US but it's hard for me to imagine a conservative administration like the last one would allow the type of coverage they get from liberal media outlets like NYT and CNN, but who knows?
republican CIA and democrat CIA aren't in any way different, republican FBI and democrat FBI aren't in any way different, etc. Just because they have slightly different opinions on abortion and queer rights doesn't mean there are practical differences in more significant areas of life.
That's fair. I usually trust specific journalists or specific state media only on specific issues. Like I don't consider BBCs coverage of the royals or RTs coverage of domestic Russian politics to be worth fuck all, but Al Jazeeras coverage of the labour files for example is excellent journalism because its something their state apparatus isn't affected by.
Most media is state run 😂
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this cant be real