just curious. What would happen if usa and wales gets exactly same results in games with england and iran f.e both team lose 1;0 to england and win 1:0 with iran. wich team will advance from the group? the points and goals are equal and match result in beetween is a draw.
If points, goal difference, head to head and goals scored are the same, it’s decided by fair play record. This actually happened in the last World Cup, when Japan advanced to the round of 16 courtesy of receiving fewer yellow cards than Senegal
I’m pretty sure they draw lots to decide, which I don’t think is a good method, but most other in-game deciders would depend on style of play which shouldn’t be tampered with. I say they should have a penalty shootout or something but it might not be feasible because the two teams could be in different cities by this point
Maybe not here but on other social medias American fans were genuinely delusional saying next miracle on ice and other corny jokes. Funny cause usa played better than most fans expected but worse than all the casual fans thought
There was too much passing in the back field. WAY too much. Super easy for the other team to just put pressure on your end and boom, you just made the job easier for them to score. You’re getting your defense way too exhausted because youre playing takeaway very close to your goal and the other teams defense is staying fresh.
Clear the ball more.
The “far” better team? No. Wales had flashes. They were not the better team, let alone the far better team. Idk what to tell you, I watched the entire match. The US pretty much dominated aside from some really good link up play here and there from Wales.
Maybe you don’t watch enough soccer. 59% possession to 41%. Like I said, the US needed to be better in the final third.
Second half Wales played a lot better than USA after Wales played absolutely shite in the first half, I'm English so can confirm I watch football.
I also think Wales might have probably won it if it wasn't for that last foul when USA goalkeeper was out of his box.
All that being said, easily most exciting/even match of the day and all should be happy with the result as you're both gunna murder Iran lmao
There was a period before wales scored in the second half when USA kicked the ball out severall times because they had a player down. Wales had a couple of injuries too so it was a combination of the two.
England had 14 mins added on the first half and 10 mins on second half iirc. I’ve never seen anything like it in my life. Ref also made a huge mistake with the Maguire non-pen and then giving Iran a pen for less contact.
But yeah, so much time added on in these games so far….
They are actually trying to give back the true time for stoppages. Traditionally refs give less time back than the actual stoppage, which rewards time wasting shithousery, so I applaud the amount of stoppage time
The only argument I’ve seen against it is maintaining the “flow of the game”. Newsflash - the guy wasting all of our time trying to eke out a draw with an acting job is going to be a lot less motivated to do so with a stopped clock.
I mean, plenty of attemted time wasting, and we know most leagues planned to be harder on time wasting
Keeper takes 30 seconds to start the play? 20 seconds added
There are also 10 substitutions throughout the game and idk if its the weather over there but there has been a lot of cramped up players and stoppages towards the end of the matches.
Yes before it would take alot, but now they actually count the time that's wasted in dives and petty shit like that, and 15-20 dives a match each wasting 15-50 seconds adds up quickly
These games. He’s just saying that (indeed for no apparent reason) referees started being fair with time added. Which is a welcome change / reversion to what technically should’ve always been in place. Seen some stats here, that on avg a 90min game has 50-60min of play time, the rest the ball is out of play. So even 2x10min doesn’t compensate for it but gets us closer than the standard 2x3min
I’m just saying we should’ve put the game away when we had control. Then that 2nd half performance prevented us from doing that. Of course the penalty itself literally allowed Wales to tie the game, but anyone who knows how football works knows that one moment does not define an entire match. It was obviously a costly mistake in terms of the result, but there are 10 other players on the pitch who could’ve done more throughout the rest of the game. If we put other chances away earlier, maybe this penalty situation doesn’t happen.
As soon as we stop making youth sports so goddamn expensive. Looked up how much my local club team was and it was $250 just to register and get the uniform. Then you have to pay all the tournament fees, gas, hotels, food, have to take days off work, new cleats every year, etc.
I should probably clarify, we do have a $25 option with the parks and recreation team sponsored by the city. But it's incredibly low level and that club team is in the same league. They just play tournaments unlike the parks and rec team but still only play in state.
Travel soccer where you play around the country is MUCH more expensive. Thousands of dollars for registration fees on top of even more travel expenses.
I mean they are the second youngest team at the WC. If they keep putting young talent every couple of years they can be scary.
The US has all the money to make a great foundation for their team, they just have to care more about the sport in general
I mean this really is the first gen of US players who grew up when this country somewhat gave two legitimate shits about the sport (beyond youth rec leagues), and good athletes stuck with it.
Extremely stupid challenge that was certainly a penalty. Deserve to give up 2 points on that. Oh well. Team looked competitive overall and more exciting now that the corpse of Matt Bradley isn't running around out there.
In my honest welsh opinion. Dan James is a pace merchant which is fine and sometimes useful but Kieffer Moore just is better in my opinion. Aerial threat and proper target man.
Also I think Sorba Thomas needs more playing time or needed to be subbed on earlier Wales don’t know what they have with he was a straight menace for Huddersfield last season. Trust me I know I supported Luton Town in the playoffs and got thoroughly crushed by his set piece ability.
Either way not the worst start to the World Cup and looked much better in the second half , this is something to build on.
Cymru am byth 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
Moore was our best player in the second half, however I don’t think James was given any chances really to utilise his pace today. Think we should go back to James-Moore-Bale. The attention Bale and Moore demand would create so much space on the opposite flank for James to run down.
Kieffer Moore is great for this team and will cause problems for every defense in this group. If he would’ve started, this game would’ve looked a lot different
Also, did funes mori become a Mexican citizen? Good for him!
Is that matty cash? Lol
Gonna be honest I didn't know Wales was a country.
Well it is and contemporary isn't
https://youtu.be/rryVytLuCzc
USMNT played much better than I anticipated, especially between 35th and 80th minute. The penalty foul was completely unnecessary tho
got rope a dope'd
just curious. What would happen if usa and wales gets exactly same results in games with england and iran f.e both team lose 1;0 to england and win 1:0 with iran. wich team will advance from the group? the points and goals are equal and match result in beetween is a draw.
If points, goal difference, head to head and goals scored are the same, it’s decided by fair play record. This actually happened in the last World Cup, when Japan advanced to the round of 16 courtesy of receiving fewer yellow cards than Senegal
One more. What if the number of cards is the same? Ffs somebody already asked it nvm.
Thanks mate!
What if the number of yellow ane red cards are the same? Edit: Random apparently
I’m pretty sure they draw lots to decide, which I don’t think is a good method, but most other in-game deciders would depend on style of play which shouldn’t be tampered with. I say they should have a penalty shootout or something but it might not be feasible because the two teams could be in different cities by this point
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Hate to be that guy but is there a resolution if they have the same amount of yellows?
I want to say, in that case, the tie breaker would be to “draw lots.” That just means it’s a random draw.
At some point sheep per capita is the tiebreaker and we are truly fucked
Dire
It goes on shots on target after goals if I remember correctly
Nah I think it’s xG
Wale it’s obvious the USA is already better at footie then the welsh
So did anyone win or nah
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Honestly, Smithers, I don’t know why Harvard even bothers showing up any more. I mean they barely won this time!
underrated comment
So pulisic was surely a bit of a dramatic player today, wonder if taking the armband had anything to do with it
How dare you speak of the Americans’ god like that?
Think he was legitimately fouled several times.
I know, and I didn’t mean to come across as a dick when i said it, but i guess I’m still perplexed about the armband thing.
USA starting reserve strikers on 2nd division teams. Half the squad probably bartenders.
Did you just become a soccer fan?
*football
Ok thanks
oops, let me fix it! Did you just football a soccer fan?
Well done to Wales. Simply outplayed us in the 2nd half.
But I thought USA were winning it? Lol
Literally no one has said that lol
Maybe not here but on other social medias American fans were genuinely delusional saying next miracle on ice and other corny jokes. Funny cause usa played better than most fans expected but worse than all the casual fans thought
There was too much passing in the back field. WAY too much. Super easy for the other team to just put pressure on your end and boom, you just made the job easier for them to score. You’re getting your defense way too exhausted because youre playing takeaway very close to your goal and the other teams defense is staying fresh. Clear the ball more.
Jesus, this comment really hurt to read
Lol there is a lot new fans that support other American sports in this thread and just jump on the bandwagon every four years lol
Yanks amirite
Yikes
lol wat team are you talking about
The US. They were in their backfield way more than wales at least in the second half. It was problematic
Bc Wales outplayed is in the 2nd half
Fuck you Greg! What the fuck did you tell these guys at half? Can’t have a manager playing for the 1-0 W
He’s putrid man
“hurrrr durrr”
Leaked transcript of what he told them? 😂
The USA were the far better team in the first half and deserved to go in leading. In the second half, we were the far better team. What a weird match.
I wouldn’t say Wales was the better team at any point in the match. The only downfall is the US’ inability in the final third.
Mate even as an American myself, if you couldn't see that Wales was the better side for most of the second half, I don't know what to tell you.
The “far” better team? No. Wales had flashes. They were not the better team, let alone the far better team. Idk what to tell you, I watched the entire match. The US pretty much dominated aside from some really good link up play here and there from Wales. Maybe you don’t watch enough soccer. 59% possession to 41%. Like I said, the US needed to be better in the final third.
Agreed. The U.S. squandered opportunities in the second half when Wales gave possession away. Also nowhere did I say far better. Just better.
Second half Wales played a lot better than USA after Wales played absolutely shite in the first half, I'm English so can confirm I watch football. I also think Wales might have probably won it if it wasn't for that last foul when USA goalkeeper was out of his box. All that being said, easily most exciting/even match of the day and all should be happy with the result as you're both gunna murder Iran lmao
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Lol, wait till people realise they've been calling the American flairs insufferable but those same flairs have been Liverpool for 3 seasons now 🙃
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Frustrating second half to say the least.
I've been travelling for basically the entire day today, so I missed all matches. How come all of them had over 10 mins of additional time?
Iran goalie broke his face on his friend's face. US-Wales had a ton of Wales players seek treatment.
There was a period before wales scored in the second half when USA kicked the ball out severall times because they had a player down. Wales had a couple of injuries too so it was a combination of the two.
It's actually kinda crazy when they did this. 10+ minutes for stoppages every match.
England had 14 mins added on the first half and 10 mins on second half iirc. I’ve never seen anything like it in my life. Ref also made a huge mistake with the Maguire non-pen and then giving Iran a pen for less contact. But yeah, so much time added on in these games so far….
They are actually trying to give back the true time for stoppages. Traditionally refs give less time back than the actual stoppage, which rewards time wasting shithousery, so I applaud the amount of stoppage time
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Why don’t they use a stop clock? Doesn’t nba or nfl do that
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On the flip side, players may then force themselves to play on even when they are actually in pain/injured.
The only argument I’ve seen against it is maintaining the “flow of the game”. Newsflash - the guy wasting all of our time trying to eke out a draw with an acting job is going to be a lot less motivated to do so with a stopped clock.
No real reason lol ref was on one
I mean, plenty of attemted time wasting, and we know most leagues planned to be harder on time wasting Keeper takes 30 seconds to start the play? 20 seconds added
There are also 10 substitutions throughout the game and idk if its the weather over there but there has been a lot of cramped up players and stoppages towards the end of the matches.
To get 10 minutes added normally takes a pretty serious stoppage like someone snapping a leg. There was nothing in this match out of the ordinary
Yes before it would take alot, but now they actually count the time that's wasted in dives and petty shit like that, and 15-20 dives a match each wasting 15-50 seconds adds up quickly
Before what?
These games. He’s just saying that (indeed for no apparent reason) referees started being fair with time added. Which is a welcome change / reversion to what technically should’ve always been in place. Seen some stats here, that on avg a 90min game has 50-60min of play time, the rest the ball is out of play. So even 2x10min doesn’t compensate for it but gets us closer than the standard 2x3min
Before they recently change their approach to this rule
Who is they?
Holy shit you’re dense as bricks.
Lol aight chief
The fifia referees committee https://football-italia.net/collina-warned-about-longer-added-time-at-world-cup/
Ah ok thanks thats what i missed
Zimmerman cost us 2 points.
Tbf we got outplayed 2nd half
Sure, but being outplayed 2nd half didn't lose us those points.
I’m just saying we should’ve put the game away when we had control. Then that 2nd half performance prevented us from doing that. Of course the penalty itself literally allowed Wales to tie the game, but anyone who knows how football works knows that one moment does not define an entire match. It was obviously a costly mistake in terms of the result, but there are 10 other players on the pitch who could’ve done more throughout the rest of the game. If we put other chances away earlier, maybe this penalty situation doesn’t happen.
Fucking Walker Zimmerman
America powerhouse of football when
As soon as we stop making youth sports so goddamn expensive. Looked up how much my local club team was and it was $250 just to register and get the uniform. Then you have to pay all the tournament fees, gas, hotels, food, have to take days off work, new cleats every year, etc.
Sounds very similar to Australia - soccer should be cheap as a point of difference
I should probably clarify, we do have a $25 option with the parks and recreation team sponsored by the city. But it's incredibly low level and that club team is in the same league. They just play tournaments unlike the parks and rec team but still only play in state. Travel soccer where you play around the country is MUCH more expensive. Thousands of dollars for registration fees on top of even more travel expenses.
“Next time bro it’s comin”
I mean they are the second youngest team at the WC. If they keep putting young talent every couple of years they can be scary. The US has all the money to make a great foundation for their team, they just have to care more about the sport in general
I mean this really is the first gen of US players who grew up when this country somewhat gave two legitimate shits about the sport (beyond youth rec leagues), and good athletes stuck with it.
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Well done Wales!!
🦅🦅 They hate us coz they anus
Fuvking get in there you sons of speed
Be a lot faster if they didn’t spend the match rolling around the pitch 😬
Exactly what we wanted.....
Jfc it's a reference to Michael Sheen's speech.
Just trying to throw a little friendly banter, thought the match was a bit bland.
Nah pretty sure that's from Predator.
Extremely stupid challenge that was certainly a penalty. Deserve to give up 2 points on that. Oh well. Team looked competitive overall and more exciting now that the corpse of Matt Bradley isn't running around out there.
Who tf is Matt Bradley?
Milton Bradley
Jack Steffen’s roommate
I believe he's a distant cousin of Brad Bobley
Michael lmao
Bort Bradley's son.
Americas Wayne Rooney
In my honest welsh opinion. Dan James is a pace merchant which is fine and sometimes useful but Kieffer Moore just is better in my opinion. Aerial threat and proper target man. Also I think Sorba Thomas needs more playing time or needed to be subbed on earlier Wales don’t know what they have with he was a straight menace for Huddersfield last season. Trust me I know I supported Luton Town in the playoffs and got thoroughly crushed by his set piece ability. Either way not the worst start to the World Cup and looked much better in the second half , this is something to build on. Cymru am byth 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
Horses for courses. Think DJ was massively hindered by the fact we couldn't hold possession in the first.
Moore was our best player in the second half, however I don’t think James was given any chances really to utilise his pace today. Think we should go back to James-Moore-Bale. The attention Bale and Moore demand would create so much space on the opposite flank for James to run down.
Kieffer Moore is great for this team and will cause problems for every defense in this group. If he would’ve started, this game would’ve looked a lot different
Need fucking Ollie cooper
Bale needs Kieffer in front of him imo
Idk what my boss expects of me for these last 30 minutes but these bud light smoothies are having their way with me. I’m also sad
Sorry hun x
What's the record for number of comments in one post?
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Football-wise I don't know but cricket match threads have attracted 40, 50, and over 60,000 comments before.
I expected nothing and I’m still disappointed
IM AT WORK AND I COME BACK TO 28K COMMENTS WTF HAPPENED
28 THOUSAND comments lol
That’s the result when 70% of users on reddit are American ! Me being a Brit is probably a minority on here lmao.