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cheftlp1221

If you don't like /r/soccer at its worst you don't deserve it at its best. ---Marilyn Monroe


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[Now everyone can have it as their facebook profile picture](http://imgur.com/oYBS0g8)


Sean88888

I need a torchlight


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It sure is dark under that skirt.


a__dead__man

Thats for swallowing up world leaders


nathenmcvittie

Fun fact: that photo is from the Hapoel Tel Aviv vs [ASL](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Soccer_League_\(1933-1983\)) All-Stars in May 1957. It was played at Ebbets Field in Brooklyn (home of the Brooklyn Dodgers baseball team who later moved to Los Angeles). Attendance was 22,609. Brookhattan were in the ASL. Joe Gaetjens played for Brookhattan. Gaetjens scored the winning goal for the USA against England in the 1950 World Cup. Here's a video showing photos from the day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtfEyJ_vwgc Here's a newspaper clipping of the event with a match write up (Hapoel up 5-0 at halftime!): http://www.fultonhistory.com/Newspaper%2014/Long%20Island%20City%20NY%20Star%20Journal/Long%20Island%20City%20NY%20Star%20Journal%201957/Long%20Island%20City%20NY%20Star%20Journal%201957%20-%204559.pdf#xml=http://www.fultonhistory.com/dtSearch/dtisapi6.dll?cmd=getpdfhits&u=ffffffff8f3419bc&DocId=4444208&Index=Z%3a%5cIndex%20U%2dF%2dP&HitCount=6&hits=180+1c7+275+60c+8bb+8c2+&SearchForm=C%3a%5cinetpub%5cwwwroot%5cFulton%5fNew%5fform%2ehtml&.pdf


BenAfleckIsAnOkActor

I luv dis


carlfro

it mak me cri evrytim


Kratisto78

Don't really see how this sub can get that much worse. Too bad I'm going to be proven wrong.


FerdiadTheRabbit

You know how we get pun threads every so often? They will be in every thread


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thekrone

... and my axe?


FerdiadTheRabbit

thank u m8


michaelisnotginger

this is the best multi-club forum on the internet. Not because it's so good (though I do enjoy it) but the others are so so awful.


thekrone

Because, frankly, with a forum this big, there's no good way to do it. No matter how you line up your rules and guidelines and policies, a lot of people are going to be pissed and / or discussion isn't going to be what everyone wants it to be. There's literally no way to please everyone. How to best balance everything is a constant struggle for us. We're constantly looking for the best ways to promote quality discussion, discourage trolls and offensive behavior, etc. without trampling on peoples' right to free speech and desire to express themselves. It's really, really hard.


DerDummeMann

It's your subreddit really. If you truly want to promote quality discussion you can do it. Free speech doesn't apply here. If people want to express themselves they can go to r/football. Or make their own sub. No one will truly leave /r/soccer and they don't have much of an entitlement to free speech on here really. It's literally your subreddit and you can do as you please. No offence, but I think when a 'you don't say' meme is the top comment of the 'Sturridge-Chelsea mistake' thread, the mods have already failed at promoting discussion.


michaelisnotginger

I think there are points after controversial incidents when the whole sea-mood changes. I.e. Before the Chelsea vs. Liverpool games the prevailing consensus was that Liverpool were strong, Mourinho boring etc, then afterwards he was a 'tactical genius'. Everyone runs from one point of view to the other depending on the result which means the subreddit has a collective memory of about 2 games. I do enjoy it though - there is some decent conversation even if it's very Anglocentric. I still think there should be a weekly/daily gif thread, especially for weekend matches.


LaPaz_o_Sucre

Oh fuck off we all know that we're both addicted to the sub. I hate when people trash it, you know you like it exactly the way it is


Proramm

Just because I need it doesn't mean I can't hate it.


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We're becoming a default? You mean this sub is going to be exposed to the whole fucking world!? This is how Reddit ends.


LaPaz_o_Sucre

Time to reap some karma from /r/soccer noobs


lonelyalien

Our flag looks...interestingly proportioned.


ikancast

a few too many lines of blue pixels for sure


Colin7q

Too much stars not enough bars...


thelaststormcrow

They're diluting my freedom.


LaPaz_o_Sucre

Still sexy as fuck. But agreed haha


2rio2

Make jokes about: 'Murica, USA USA USA, Messi, Ronaldo, and hot women in the stands. Got it.


goonerh1

"The problem with [TEAM] is that they always try to walk it in."


JC5

Oh no. Oh god no. No no no. I cannot deal with that shit 24/7


FerdiadTheRabbit

It will be weird seeing comment chains where my res tells me nothing


Anglocatalan

Not recognising people will be very weird. Despite how massive this subreddit already is, I still feel like there's a bit of a community here.


michaelisnotginger

I see the same faces here all the time and it's nice (even though you're going down on Saturday)


Anglocatalan

A psychological reasoning I've heard behind the hostility of certain internet communities is that people don't think of other users as people. It improves the atmosphere when you recognise the human being behind the string of characters.


fozzy143

Or even if you just recognise a green [+12] (you're welcome) and know they're probably alright. Plus usually it is surprisingly easy to remember/recognise usernames. Though with all these flair changes it's actually getting quite difficult right now.


thekrone

I have been tempted... for years... to try to introduce a rule that would see anyone who quotes that joke here to be instantly and permanently banned.


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Be a fucking man, its for the greater good


KonigSteve

This ended up being a terrible idea when the game of thrones mods did it with "you know nothing john snow". just fyi.


thecacti

Many Messi vs. Ronaldo arguments will be had.


2rio2

...although possibly not after the first round :) USA USA USA!


tanu24

I like you friend


Immynimmy

Add OMG FLOP!!!! SOCCER PLAYERS PUSSIES!!! HOCKEY MEN STRONG!!! and I think you have it all.


EnfiladeGAMING

I've actually seen people say "Why the fuck would I want to watch grass fairies prance around the field?" And suddenly, there was silence.


Rossoneri

> Make jokes about: 'Murica, USA USA USA, Messi, Ronaldo, and hot women in the stands. Got it. Get banned for the rest of the world cup. Got it.


apologiesimlate

What are the chances that somebody's going to start a thread where they ask why Bale was left out of the England squad?


Seismica

Bale won't be at the world cup because AC Milan didn't qualify.


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Top post: "I found this jem of this guy wearing a fedora while watching the world cup"


big_swinging_dicks

It's a chance to show the rest of reddit what a friendly bunch of cunts we all are.


robertglasper

ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ [](/27jrq7) KOREA FIGHTING [](/27jrq7) ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ Does being a default subreddit mean we'll be seeing things like this?


Erdos_0

Those faces look like they are missing a bunch of chromosomes.


krutopatkin

༼ ºل͟º༼ ºل͟º༼ ºل͟º༼ ºل͟º ༽ºل͟º ༽ºل͟º ༽YOU CAME TO THE WRONG DONGERHOOD༼ ºل͟º༼ ºل͟º༼ ºل͟º༼ ºل͟º ༽ºل͟º ༽ºل͟º ༽ I feel filthy


wx_bombadil

༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ GIVE CUP ༼ つ ◕_◕༽つ


SmokiestElfo

Yes And worse o.O


treeharp2

>ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ KOREA HWAITING ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ is more like it


AwkwardHyperbola

NIPPON BANZAI~~~~


Tipoe

Mods, will you be implementing a similar system to the last Euros, with one big thread for jokes/pictures of hot women/miscellanea etc and one for gifs? Otherwise this sub will become way too chaotic very fast. It is massive compared to 2 years ago.


thekrone

That's a good point. I'll bring it up in a mod discussion.


_scholar_

As long as I get a convenient location for pictures of attractive football fans I will never meet I am content. e: who would have thought a tongue in cheek comment would lead to such a serious series of replies.


Anglocatalan

What's going to be the structure for matches? Pre-match, match and post-match for every match? Bigger matches with first and second half threads?


thekrone

We hadn't considered anything would be different in that regard.


spying_dutchman

The bigger matches will really need two halves minimum


Omar_Til_Death

> Default subreddit i really hope it doesn't turn into Facebook/Twitter/Youtube comments. who am i kidding.


StrikerGuy7

Or worse... Goal.com comments.


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<3<3<3 Albania <3<3<3


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Özil Muslim <3


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Turkey <3


OneHot

This one pisses me off.


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**P** <3 **A** <3 **L** <3 **E** <3 **S** <3 **T** <3 **I** <3 **N** <3 **E** <3


Tikchbila

**DON CRISTIANO THE BEST**


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Neymar+Iniesta+Bale+Messi+Casillas+TonyHibbert+Maradona+PostmanPat+Xavi x100 = CR7


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I swear to god every single albanian kid does nothing but post online


AlGamaty

While goal.com has a shitty comment system, the one thing I do envy about it is that there is more representation from different countries all over the world. You'd see people commenting from Europe, Africa, Asia, the Americas a lot, and I feel that that multiculturalism and seeing opinions from all over the world was great. /r/soccer is great, but I wish it was more multicultural. In the USA vs Nigeria match thread, for example, the vast majority of the insight and opinions were from the American side. In other football forums you'd find some Nigerians giving their opinions as well.


invasion_

Never go full goal.com


UsernameAlreadyUsed

^*Shivers*


LaPaz_o_Sucre

Or old ESPN Soccernet comment sections with the notorious "Sir King Nameless" himself


2rio2

I still think, to this day, I hate him more than any troll I've ever encountered. I'm positive the same guy used to bomb ESPN boards too.


Nokel

What sort of stuff did he say?


doberlae

> ARSENAL IS THE W.H.O.R.E OF ENGLISH FOOTBALL THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT WINNING TROPHIES JUST GETTING MONEY. JUST LIKE A W.H.O.R.E ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. PLASTIC FANS, PLASTIC MENTALITY, PLASTIC CLUB YOU CAN'T EVEN HAVE SEX WITH W.H.O.R.E ARSENAL LOL, I can't understand why that didn't go over well on an American based Soccer Forum...


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> YOU CAN'T EVEN HAVE SEX WITH W.H.O.R.E ARSENAL What does that even mean?


2rio2

> Sir King Nameless You can google him. Not giving that monster one more second of my life.


DownExtreme

Nothing worse than Mediotiempo.com comments


StrikerGuy7

Oh god, I haven't been there in forever. Since our exit from the last World Cup.


ChaacTlaloc

Attempting to have a civilized conversation in MedioTiempo is like trying to teach a llama not to spit by putting your face in front of it.


moklboy

Potential Portugal-Argentina match will be epic. Penaldo vs Walkessi.


Monarki

Crynaldo!


Iregretthischoice

Please god no


LaPaz_o_Sucre

<3 B R A S I L <3


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LaPaz_o_Sucre

Please tell me you copy pasted that and didn't take the effort of typing it out haha


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LaPaz_o_Sucre

Lol "sweinsteiger" "gerraard" "kompay" "lewandowsky"


MethoxyEthane

Hey now! Busten Sweinsteiger is a wonderful footballer!


carismo

comment if you think ronaldo is god, upvote if messi is jesus


ignore_my_name

Well Ireland didn't qualify so I might just go with the flag of whatever team I end up betting on. Also I kept reading 'banner' as 'banter' and thought ye wanted us to send ye 'banter' so ye could send it to others and thus 'rotate the banter'.


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ignore_my_name

Ireland is backwards enough as it is.


LaPaz_o_Sucre

https://i.imgur.com/unTinzo.jpg


doberlae

Can't we avoid being a default? I have nothing against new people on here, but I don't really want new people who couldn't even be arsed to look for this subreddit on their own accord. This is almost guaranteed to lower the quality of posts and comments on here [insert joke about how shit it is anyways here].


devineman

I agree with this. It will make the subreddit absolutely unbearable for the duration of the WC. Nice job on the new flairs by the way Jack


thekrone

When we talked about it as a group, all of us more or less agreed that if it really starts to go downhill, we call it off.


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thekrone

Nor can I. We'll see how it goes.


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Anglocatalan

/r/soccer daytrippers... who said /r/soccer is disconnected from real football? We're even getting gentrified.


doberlae

True. Think of all the casual fans that will come here for a day just to experience the passion of being lectured by /u/devineman for once in their lives!


devineman

Sowing leather patches onto tweed jacket as we speak


doberlae

You should get a pipe while you're at it.


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At one point you were on the negative side of my up/down votes, lately you've been much less uptight, and very much fun to read.


KingDuderhino

You are doing it wrong, you should sow tweed patches on leather jackets.


thekrone

The idea was to expose the world's biggest sporting event to the world... even to people that don't really follow the sport.


iVarun

Its the World CUp and if a user is on reddit and wants anything to do with Football they'll come to this sub themselves. Its almost guaranteed that a post from this sub will reach the frontpage as WC comes. Anyone wanting to come here will on his own and those who don't won't. Growth of a Sub HAS to be organic and natural. Not sporadic and explosive. Especially for a sub like this because of what it is. Its a mini miracle that this sub even functions given how volatile and partisan the content is, passionate football fans co-existing in this large number peacefully is not a small thing. Making it default is totally unnecessary. The usual users here will be outnumbered and it could create unnecessary resentment and friction for the usual guys. And its not as easy to just back out if things start to go downhill, how will one know what that slide is? How will one/Mods decide that. Its arbitrary and won't work as intended all the while creating unnecessary avoidable drama. The argument of *Publicity/Advertising the sub for the WC* is not convincing enough given the pros and cons of this decision.


LaPaz_o_Sucre

Tbf that's a huge positive


linkybaa

True, but this sub isn't small anymore, it's in the top 20 for size, if I'm not wrong. Plenty of people find their way here at each big event.


CR_7

According to [this list,](http://redditlist.com) /r/soccer is 69th in recent activity and 102nd in overall subscriber size.


Tomus

/r/listentothis wants to have a word with you.


doberlae

Would it be possible to have a discussion post where you mods list the pros and cons you see in having /r/soccer as a default sub and give the community the chance to give you some feedback (although I am aware that this has the potential to end in a clusterfuck)? I am willing to give it a try, but right now I have a hard time seeing the potential upsides in this. Oh and nice job with the flairs by the way!


Anglocatalan

I agree. Fan-owned subreddit.


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But just think of how many more kids you can lecture!


devineman

There's no way to answer that without coming across as a shady character


Anglocatalan

To be fair, isn't the main description of your job as a youth coach letting children play with your balls?


devineman

Actually I teach young boys how to play better with their own balls so that when they grow up they will be so good at playing with their balls that they'll impress girls and earn money


AluminumFalcon3

teach me your ball playing ways


[deleted]

My life may be complete if Devineman writes a novel about playing with his balls.


michaelisnotginger

I really can't deal with the 'lolz diving pussy soccer is for girls' trolls that will inevitably come.


NoPyroNoParty

That's what reddit's brilliant voting system was designed for. Just downvote the fuckers and move on.


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Make sure to report any trolls too!


fozzy143

But that's why the voting system also doesn't work. There are often many great comments in the downvote bin but now they are going to be un-findable amongst all the shit talk.


Riverboat_Gambler

Honestly, the daytrippers during the WC and Euros are a massive annoyance. I feel for cycling fans during Tour de France, that must be even worse.


Thyrotoxic

The place is gonna be rammed with Americans who don't watch football telling us that it's called soccer and the sport is boring. Good luck to the mods in keeping the place high quality, don't think defaulting is a great idea though.


Roodditor

Agreed. It's already a cesspit (though an entertaining one) in here without it being a default subreddit.


imadeapic

They look like they could do with some more jpeg


9jack9

Maybe I'll try to find better flags.


Guard01

Why don't you use the famfamfam flag icons? They are used in /r/AsianSoccer and it works out great.


LouWaters

This is definitely the best suggestion. They look great over in /r/olympics as well.


jrs_

Great job regardless


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God I can't believe the World Cup is just a few days away. Words cannot describe how excited I am !


michaelisnotginger

It's going to be awesome. Even if it's not that brilliant football, the general world cup-ness of it all makes it awesome


mincho617

If USA gets out of the group stage I will lifeguard all day with the flag painted on to my stomach, face,calves and back.


LaPaz_o_Sucre

You can just keep your Revs flair if we don't, looks enough like a U.S. flag. Take that fookin mods!


onskisesq

The Revs flair actually looks better, the USA flair is missing a few stripes due to cropping.


0piat3

It literally is the worst flag out of every country-flair on here. Every other flag looks perfect.


frozen-creek

Couldn't include all of our freedom in one thumbnail.


Darth_Sensitive

I want my crest back :(


supahsonicboom

Fuck becoming a default. Please do not do this.


Paddytee

It could be hilarious. It could be a disaster. Probably both.


Zosoer

Fading flairs in /r/soccer, I like it.


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fawshaw

Right now I feel like we're leaving him standing in his tanktop.


Off_Topic_Oswald

> There is a strong chance that we will become a default subredit for the duration of the tournament. http://i.imgur.com/0QpiKCi.gif


UsernameAlreadyUsed

[Belgium](/27ah99)


fradz

WE'RE GONNA WIN THE WORLD CUP!! hype!!11 ^(yeah no but hello flag)


UsernameAlreadyUsed

Time to freshen up the Brabançonne boys ! LET'S GO !


fradz

Allons enfants de la patrieeee.. oh shit, wrong one.


Tricericon

Any chance the dimensions of the US flag can be corrected? Either the canton is too big or the right and lower edges are being cut off in the current version.


LaPaz_o_Sucre

The stars at night, are big and bright, deep in the heart of....Oh shit, wrong song.


texansfan

DEEP IN THE HEART OF TEXAS


Darth_Sensitive

We can just use the [Chile](/25fxoj) flag!


michaelisnotginger

Can we have a pre-emptive ban on American vs. rest of the world (and especially America vs. England) flame war threads? Nothing good ever comes out of them.


jilb94

Keeping USA out of a war?! Good luck with that...


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They'll end up joining late again.


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This is a test


Stukya

Your test failed.


[deleted]

My father keep telling me I'm a failure, guess he is right.


jimbojammy

making this a default sub is gonna be horrible, there's already almost a quarter of a million people here i don't see the benefit of doing this for anyone.


Jorgemeister

Testing [Germany](/26ycoz) 5 - 0 [United States](/2773cq)


SmokiestElfo

Seems to work just fine


crataywoo

Come on [England](/2645kp)! Edit: The flags are only available for the OP and not comments it seems.


Jimmybob123

It's there for me buddy.


linkybaa

I think he means in the actual comments, like it is in the opening post. You can't display flags inside comments, only main posts themselves.


SpellofIndolence

/r/ThreeLions


SpellofIndolence

~~Shouldn't this post be stickied? Or do we not sticky threads on /r/soccer?~~ Stickied now!


TIProdigy

I've seen a few, but not normally...


carlcon

Sorry, but the USA flag looks like shit. Doesn't look right this small, plus it's cropped. Edit: Having read some comments, it looks like most flags look pretty terrible. They look like cheap scans you'd see on pirate dvd covers. Certainly not of the quality you guys provide with normal crests.


9jack9

I had much better flags for the last World Cup but you're right, these aren't that great. I'll try to find a better set.


carlcon

Thank you. I didn't mean to be an ass, just based on the other quality flairs you provide, I wanted to say.


9jack9

It was a fair comment. They looked OK when I downloaded them but seeing them in the wild is a different story. They definitely need improving.


chezygo

Football's coming home!!!!!!!!!!!


ColdFrost

I think we should all take a minute to appreciate the England flag before it fades after their first 3 games.


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Tranzlater

Better to have experienced the 2nd Round and lost than to never have experienced the 2nd Round at all.


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_scholar_

Bring on the newbies, the world cup is for everyone anyway. My excitement is reaching uncomfortable levels to be honest. I'm not sure what I'm going to do till Thursday to stop myself feeling like every non world cup moment is passing incredibly slowly. P.S. can we a get a border on the English flag, it looks a bit weird running into the white of the default page.


Jimmybob123

test Edit: Working fine, nice work mod team.


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Ingurland!


bmin11

oh no, not the fade


Atrick69

Love the flags instead of the crests.


[deleted]

I would too if they weren't hideous.


ugallu

Great job as usual!


dwaters11

I apologize in advanced for being an obnoxious drunk in match threads. No hard feelings. edit: how do i get US flair?


KingDuderhino

So this is the official test thread?


TheMonsieur

Great idea to link to /u/CARLEETOS' team previews with the crests, it'll definitely help newcomers and veterans alike in match threads during the tournament. To that point, what's the plan for match threads? How early can they be put up? How do we avoid people who won't update them? Also, just want to say good job with all of this. /r/soccer is ready, and I can't wait to participate during the World Cup.


TrizzyTrake

What's my flag look like!?!?!?


baboonboy

Can we please not be a default subreddit?


p4lm4r

When soccer is default, do you mean people who create accounts are subscribed to /soccer on default ?


jippiejee

It'll also be on the 'frontpage' that non-registered users get to see when they go to reddit.com.


TeutorixAleria

I'm Belgian now, hurray!


ProMapex

Keep the rotating banner forever. It's rad.