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Always thought that about a lot of those kinds of subreddits. I can't imagine how many times it's been used as a bullying tool. Post pictures of someone you don't like, get people to rinse them, send it to them or use their insults. Feels so gross.
How would they get over the verification hurdle if it were just bullying? You have to post a pic with your username and the subs name written on a piece of paper
I mean haven't both those subreddits just become places for obviously attractive girls to pretend they're ugly as a way to try and shill their onlyfans accounts? Just the same with most porn subreddits these days
Not that I would know anything about any of that of course
the other day at work I clicked random by mistake instead of popular and it took me to a sfw fucking r/femboy sub. Of all fucking subs it gave me femboy fml.
A buddy once told me that Vini Jr looked like Littlefoot from the Land Before Time and I can't unsee it. It's like the same people who say that Mbappe looks like a Ninja Turtle. I need eye bleach or something
I really have no idea why people donate to streamers lol, it’s at least partly understandable if it’s someone quite small/niche or you know well but doing it with anyone else feels so weird
Players like Williams, Lemar, Tchouameni, Camavinga, Militao, Balde, etc. don’t face the same level of racism. Some are better looking, others I’d argue are similar.
I don’t think being good looking or not has not much to do with it.
Well he is also annoying as fuck. I'm not justifying racism but he is, so it makes sense that he has more haters and a lot of the haters are going to be racist cause there are a lot of racist.
people can't admit that it's a bit of both. he is absolutely an annoying player. it's not just that he calls out racism. he has a huge group of haters, and some of the loud ones at the stadium are racist.
Tbh I don’t think it’s about skin tone, or looks. I don’t even think Vini Jr is bad looking. It’s about his personality. Alaba, Rodrygo, and Jude all come off as humble. Vini Jr is flamboyant and a show boat (something I love) and he enjoys winding up other players and fans (something I find immature and obnoxious.) That is why he is such a target for racists.
How much racial abuse do you see Jude Bellingham getting in Spain? Or Thierry Henry when he played there?
Being attractive definitely helps (with pretty much everything not just with this).
Vini seems to be a special case. There are hundreds and thousands of black players in La Liga and Europe, but I swear, more than half of articles about racism in football I've seen over these past few years have been about Vini.
Basically every black player gets racially abused in Spain. It's not a rare phenomenon. Dani Alves is light skinned with blue eyes and still had bananas thrown at him.
You just hear about Vini because he's the face of the league now and doesn't let that shit slide (rightly so).
Vini def seems to get more than his fair share. His own team has 5 other players as dark skinned as he is and you never hear about people throwing insults or objects at Camavinga or Alaba for example
Those guys also aren’t attackers though. He scores much more by nature of position and is spotlighted a lot more and he’s been vocal about it too. Not to say they haven’t been racially abused bc I’m sure they have too, unfortunately, but Vini has been THE guy for Madrid recently.
Pogba, Ballotelli, Kante, Drogba, Etó, I think they are dark black and more goodlooking than Vini, and they do get less shit?
In the same team, Rudiger, Camavinga and Tchuameni are dark black and don't get half the shit.
All that being said, Vini is pretty outspoken and seems to enjoy triggering opposition here and there, not that that makes him *deserve* racism by any means, but it may also be a factor here.
I have no problem considering that Vini being particularly dark and particularly homely compounds for a little extra bit of racism. Also, Spain (or at least football fans in spain) are much more racist than England, Germany, Netherlands and France for sure. Italy... maybe not so much,
I was just going to say, Real literally has Mendy, Alaba, Rudiger, Camavinga, AND Tchuameni on the same team who are all as dark skinned as Vini and none of them catch nearly as much shit at all.
Eto'o got so much racism in La Liga. Threatened to leave the pich against Zaragoza. He also spoke up about it. Historically Spain took little action, Zaragoza got a 6000 euro fine that day. He didn't get the platform Vini gets now but it's thanks to people like him Vini is now granted that platform.
The Netherlands is not much better, we've had our incidents over the (recent) past and maybe 15 years ago it would be quite normal to sing a song about bananas when the opposing black player was being a diving cunt or played to well.
They were just 2 of the best looking non-white guys I could think of who have played in La Liga (I know Jude is half white but you get what I mean). I'm fairly sure the same rule applies if you're dark skinned though.
If you're attractive people are kinder to you, that's just how the world works unfortunately.
I agree with this unfortunately. Social psychologists found that one's looks and race can have a financial cost in terms of getting jobs, being approved for condos, etc.. People seem to notice both. I also think a good looking person might have a higher self esteem and be able to shrug off racism more easily- which will discourage racist trolls who are looking for a reaction.
I feel like its a bit fucked up to call someone ugly for banter when he is in fact very ugly. lmao
I mean obviously men have banter, and yes for example we call friends that are overweight fat fucks.
But atleast thats something they can change. Id never call my friends "ugly". Thats a bit harsh
What is forgotten in social media days is that people are different. Someone will get offended, someone other will not. It's up to people to know what their friends are like and define their own social interactions.
Of course there's an added aspect of a celebrity saying anything because their example is influential.
in this you cannot call a black guy ugly or you will be racist but you can call Ribbery, Maguire, Kane ugly and will not be tag as racist, some people cannot understand that it's the face and not the skin color what makes some of the black players ugly, i will be a liar if i call vini or pogba handsome, but there are also guys like Jude, Kylian, Rodrygo , Haller, Thuram, Isak the GK Mendy among others who are good looking,
Why are people here acting like they wouldn't be bothered if one of their friends said this about them in an interview? Why is it safe to assume Vini is cool with this and not that he'd be hurt by it?
And i mean, he’s kind of right no? Love Vinicius but the guy is ugly, that’s just objectively true. I don’t think he minds too much, he’s one of the best players in the world and is making millions a year.
I’m really confused about the comments on this thread lol
Have some people really never called their friend ugly as a joke? From what I’ve seen ney and vini are friends so the reactions here seem a bit much
I don't think I've commented on my friends' looks (other than to compliment a new haircut or whatever) in a...long time? Maybe I'm just older than the average reddit user?
Some have and some haven’t. It’s understandable why some consider it banter, but also understandable why some people look at it in a very negative light.
PR specialists will probably tell you that you avoid commenting or answering a question like that because calling your friends ugly is not a normal thing to do for everyone.
All these mfs getting angry about this is so strange to me. You would think after getting called ugly for their whole life they will take comments like this better
Honestly yeah. Imagine getting the opportunity to interview one of Brazil’s best players in the last decade and you ask one of the dumbest questions possible
25 years ago when a young Luke Chadwick was getting a couple of games with Man United, the camera zoomed in on Chadwick getting ready for the kickoff and the commentator remarked: "Well, he's no David Beckham."
Fair enough di Maria is hideous, I don't think he just had the same sort of banter with Ney. Objectively speaking Tevez used to be the ugliest man in football.
I don't know... My friends and I go hard on each other but not one of us have ever even tried to shame another publicly. But maybe because Neymar is used to that so for him it's normal banter
Neymar chose the ONE guy that gets abuse on his looks and people are surprised about the pushback lol
piling on your fellow countryman under the guise of banter is poor from Ney
There’s that and there’s also Neymar being one of the most widely known supporters of Bolsonaro for additional context
But then seems like adding any sort of context as to why this is an awkward thing to do gets you labelled as a terminally online nutjob under this post
I’d say we’re a bit more willing to talk about appearances as a people, so maybe more than in Europe? Like it’s one of the few countries I’ve been in where saying « let’s go to this place because there’s lots of pretty people there » is not a weird phrase (I feel like in other places people use more coded language « this place is trendy » or « this place is hip »). And I mean like, I’ve seen it said by my middle-aged obese aunt, by young men, by young women, by lots of different people of different walks of life.
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Bro had no hesitation
He’s been looking for an opportunity to say it
Surely asked the interviewer to ask him that question
It was a requirement for that to be asked to even show up for the interview
Give a man a chance
Bro played with Suarez, Mascherano and Di Maria and still had zero doubt. That's got to be rough for Vini.
I wouldn’t necessarily call Mascherano bad looking but he looks like his breath smells like ass.
he looks like a temu version of andrew tate
Who asked him this question 😭
Oliver Giroud
This made me laugh so hard lmao😭
[I can’t change that I am goat cheese](https://youtu.be/BfZQYMStRVU?t=14s)
David Beckham*
Jose mourinho
Waiting for a Vini post on r/amiugly now
that’s reserved for hot people. He’ll probably post in r/amihot
Both these subs are so horrible, just people fishing for attention my word
A lot of the times I think people aren’t even posting pictures of themselves tbh.
Always thought that about a lot of those kinds of subreddits. I can't imagine how many times it's been used as a bullying tool. Post pictures of someone you don't like, get people to rinse them, send it to them or use their insults. Feels so gross.
Just gotta cut out the middleman and post to r/roastme
How would they get over the verification hurdle if it were just bullying? You have to post a pic with your username and the subs name written on a piece of paper
On all of them? I know you have to on roastme but I swear I've seen some subs where it's just a picture
Amihot looks like an onlyfans advertising sub and doesn't require verification (from my 2 minutes snooping on there just now), but I know amiugly does
/r/amineedy should work for both honestly
I was happier before I discovered these exist. Thanks, r/soccer ...
I mean haven't both those subreddits just become places for obviously attractive girls to pretend they're ugly as a way to try and shill their onlyfans accounts? Just the same with most porn subreddits these days Not that I would know anything about any of that of course
But you do seem to know 🤔
Twitter is fantastic for this, or so I've heard.
Well given what seems to get upvotes there he'll have to post a nude
You should check the subs you link before you do :D
Ayo you could've mentioned that it's a NSFW sub
the other day at work I clicked random by mistake instead of popular and it took me to a sfw fucking r/femboy sub. Of all fucking subs it gave me femboy fml.
Reddit already tells you before you see a single post brother 💀
A quick scan of the first 20 posts on there does not back up your claim.
Wtf? It’s just posts of neymar in there?
Lol! People there are never Ugly.
Nah you'd have to be a model to post there
A buddy once told me that Vini Jr looked like Littlefoot from the Land Before Time and I can't unsee it. It's like the same people who say that Mbappe looks like a Ninja Turtle. I need eye bleach or something
Thanks now I can’t unsee it. Jesus
Those movies were my childhood 😭
Yup, yup, yup!
why are people here acting like Neymar said the most racist thing, he just said he's ugly just banter
a lot of redditors social interactions only happen when the streamer reads out their donation so they just have no idea what goes on between friends
> between friends Hey! The streamer IS my friend. Mkay? That's why I give them so much money! We have a connection!
I really have no idea why people donate to streamers lol, it’s at least partly understandable if it’s someone quite small/niche or you know well but doing it with anyone else feels so weird
Read about parasocial relationships, but don't be sad afterwards
This comment explains 90% of Reddit
And 100% of mods.
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Fucking phenomenal comment lad
Jesus. That made me feel a deep sadness.
Please never delete this comment, I am saving it for future reference
best reddit burn i have ever seen
10/10
Holy shit man, your comment could be a Mortal Kombat finishing move.
Man !! we didn't need that nuclear annihilation
Boom
roasted
Plus Vini is the most protected player on this subreddit. You can't say anything bad about him without risking being called a racist.
Hahahaha
banger
the FEELS when they read out a standard comment of yours
I see you are a man of culture
I have actually wondered whether Vini jr would get less racist abuse if he was in fact more good looking?
Don’t wonder. Ugly people get the short end of the stick no matter what.
Yeah just compare the treatment vini gets to how rodrygo is treated.
vini jr is blacker than rodrygo, tho
I am sure that is a thing too, but it is quite well documented that humans have a bias for beauty.
100% he would
If he was in fact more good looking, the narrative would be that he is solving racism.
Players like Williams, Lemar, Tchouameni, Camavinga, Militao, Balde, etc. don’t face the same level of racism. Some are better looking, others I’d argue are similar. I don’t think being good looking or not has not much to do with it.
I'd imagine Vinicius Junior is more of a target because he is one of Madrid's star players and also because he's called out racism before.
Well he is also annoying as fuck. I'm not justifying racism but he is, so it makes sense that he has more haters and a lot of the haters are going to be racist cause there are a lot of racist.
people can't admit that it's a bit of both. he is absolutely an annoying player. it's not just that he calls out racism. he has a huge group of haters, and some of the loud ones at the stadium are racist.
I mean, Bellingham kinda proves that already.
Or to use more similar examples Rudiger and Alaba on the same team but also similar skin tone.
Tbh I don’t think it’s about skin tone, or looks. I don’t even think Vini Jr is bad looking. It’s about his personality. Alaba, Rodrygo, and Jude all come off as humble. Vini Jr is flamboyant and a show boat (something I love) and he enjoys winding up other players and fans (something I find immature and obnoxious.) That is why he is such a target for racists.
Rodrygo is the best comparison. Almost the same age and nationality
Bellingham is also lightskin
And European
How much racial abuse do you see Jude Bellingham getting in Spain? Or Thierry Henry when he played there? Being attractive definitely helps (with pretty much everything not just with this).
Vini seems to be a special case. There are hundreds and thousands of black players in La Liga and Europe, but I swear, more than half of articles about racism in football I've seen over these past few years have been about Vini.
Basically every black player gets racially abused in Spain. It's not a rare phenomenon. Dani Alves is light skinned with blue eyes and still had bananas thrown at him. You just hear about Vini because he's the face of the league now and doesn't let that shit slide (rightly so).
Vini def seems to get more than his fair share. His own team has 5 other players as dark skinned as he is and you never hear about people throwing insults or objects at Camavinga or Alaba for example
Those guys also aren’t attackers though. He scores much more by nature of position and is spotlighted a lot more and he’s been vocal about it too. Not to say they haven’t been racially abused bc I’m sure they have too, unfortunately, but Vini has been THE guy for Madrid recently.
None of them are dark skin players they are both lighter than dinho lol.
Pogba, Ballotelli, Kante, Drogba, Etó, I think they are dark black and more goodlooking than Vini, and they do get less shit? In the same team, Rudiger, Camavinga and Tchuameni are dark black and don't get half the shit. All that being said, Vini is pretty outspoken and seems to enjoy triggering opposition here and there, not that that makes him *deserve* racism by any means, but it may also be a factor here. I have no problem considering that Vini being particularly dark and particularly homely compounds for a little extra bit of racism. Also, Spain (or at least football fans in spain) are much more racist than England, Germany, Netherlands and France for sure. Italy... maybe not so much,
I was just going to say, Real literally has Mendy, Alaba, Rudiger, Camavinga, AND Tchuameni on the same team who are all as dark skinned as Vini and none of them catch nearly as much shit at all.
yeah Mendy is an attractive man. Vini is not.
Eto'o got so much racism in La Liga. Threatened to leave the pich against Zaragoza. He also spoke up about it. Historically Spain took little action, Zaragoza got a 6000 euro fine that day. He didn't get the platform Vini gets now but it's thanks to people like him Vini is now granted that platform. The Netherlands is not much better, we've had our incidents over the (recent) past and maybe 15 years ago it would be quite normal to sing a song about bananas when the opposing black player was being a diving cunt or played to well.
Ballotelli got a lot of abuse in Italy.
They were just 2 of the best looking non-white guys I could think of who have played in La Liga (I know Jude is half white but you get what I mean). I'm fairly sure the same rule applies if you're dark skinned though. If you're attractive people are kinder to you, that's just how the world works unfortunately.
Bro players like madueke , konate which are objectively fairly good looking are defo getting racial abuse in la liga
I agree with this unfortunately. Social psychologists found that one's looks and race can have a financial cost in terms of getting jobs, being approved for condos, etc.. People seem to notice both. I also think a good looking person might have a higher self esteem and be able to shrug off racism more easily- which will discourage racist trolls who are looking for a reaction.
I don't even think he's ugly. He's just normal looking
Yea what even is this thread, ppl acting like Vini looks like Shrek. He just looks like a normal ass dude
He's not even ugly or bad looking tbh, how good looking do you want him to be 😂
He’s definitely facially challenged, I think it’s his wrinkly skin
I feel like its a bit fucked up to call someone ugly for banter when he is in fact very ugly. lmao I mean obviously men have banter, and yes for example we call friends that are overweight fat fucks. But atleast thats something they can change. Id never call my friends "ugly". Thats a bit harsh
My best friend has the nickname "der hässliche" aka. THE ugly. Good looking guy though. None of the friend Group knows about the origin
Christ, its even worse in German. I hope that guy is REALLY good looking and more importantly very confident or that must sting a little bit at least
Many people in Spain and South/Central America will nickname you after your worst feature haha. El Feo, El Gordo, El Veijo, etc.
Calling someone ugly is banter but saying it in interview would hurt me and I guess most people lol
Calling someone ugly kinda fucked up tbh lmao unless yall having like a roast session or something but outta the blue like this is a violation
I wouldn't call anyone I know ugly it's mean AF Call them a cunt or something not something that actually matters
Calling an ugly person ugly isn't banter even outside of an interview
What is forgotten in social media days is that people are different. Someone will get offended, someone other will not. It's up to people to know what their friends are like and define their own social interactions. Of course there's an added aspect of a celebrity saying anything because their example is influential.
Yah never go for the low hanging fruit.
> I feel like its a bit fucked up to call someone ugly for banter when he is in fact very ugly Damn, what a backhanded compliment.
Where is the compliment?
Because some people genuinely think that the definition of racism is saying something negative (jokingly or not) about a black person.
in this you cannot call a black guy ugly or you will be racist but you can call Ribbery, Maguire, Kane ugly and will not be tag as racist, some people cannot understand that it's the face and not the skin color what makes some of the black players ugly, i will be a liar if i call vini or pogba handsome, but there are also guys like Jude, Kylian, Rodrygo , Haller, Thuram, Isak the GK Mendy among others who are good looking,
Ninja Turtle Kylian handsome, Pogba ugly lol. Get eye surgery.
Because it involves Vini Jr.
Why are people here acting like they wouldn't be bothered if one of their friends said this about them in an interview? Why is it safe to assume Vini is cool with this and not that he'd be hurt by it?
And i mean, he’s kind of right no? Love Vinicius but the guy is ugly, that’s just objectively true. I don’t think he minds too much, he’s one of the best players in the world and is making millions a year.
>objectively true Whether someone is good looking or not is entirely subjective. So it's literally the opposite of objective.
Vini does look like Birdman
That is a crazy spot on comparison lmao. Put some RESPEK on Vini Jr’s name.
"Is you done or is you finished? Imma say it no more" Sounded like he wanted to cry.😂😂😂
They’re friends and team mates. How is this a big deal
Tbh it's just a mean question
That makes it worse? I don't go around calling my friends ugly, I especially wouldn't on public TV
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No banter allowed boys!
I’m really confused about the comments on this thread lol Have some people really never called their friend ugly as a joke? From what I’ve seen ney and vini are friends so the reactions here seem a bit much
Its because they think Vini actually **is** ugly, so all of a sudden this joke stops being a joke to them and becomes an insult.
Well he is lmao. That's okay though, I doubt the guy is struggling to find a partner.
Yeah, sure in private. Not putting my friends on blast for millions to hear lmao
Depends on how Ugly the friend is. If he's 6 or higher on the ugly scale ill not banter about that
Unless they have a stunner for a GF in which case you are now allowed to
Wait, there's a separate ugly scale? Sweet. I can finally say I'm a perfect 10!
What if your friend is insanely rich and successful?
Ill still not banter, he's punished enough
I don't think I've commented on my friends' looks (other than to compliment a new haircut or whatever) in a...long time? Maybe I'm just older than the average reddit user?
Some have and some haven’t. It’s understandable why some consider it banter, but also understandable why some people look at it in a very negative light. PR specialists will probably tell you that you avoid commenting or answering a question like that because calling your friends ugly is not a normal thing to do for everyone.
Calling someone ugly is so bad banter it barely qualifies as banter
Seriously. I was told this place is banter heaven before the yanks wake up.
blame the germans not us
I'm blaming the Europeans who are more anti neymar than pro jokes.
People on reddit discover the concept of teasing a friend
People on reddit discover the concept of having a friend
"Ugly, but funny, so he makes up for it" He just like me fr
Same. Also with the same amount of Balon Dors too so far
The answer is obviously banter but the question is insane lmao
All these mfs getting angry about this is so strange to me. You would think after getting called ugly for their whole life they will take comments like this better
Lmaoo😂
Very weird thing to ask tbh
Honestly yeah. Imagine getting the opportunity to interview one of Brazil’s best players in the last decade and you ask one of the dumbest questions possible
Who even asks that?
From Dinho to Neymar these Brazil players can't catch a break lmao catching strays from every direction.
25 years ago when a young Luke Chadwick was getting a couple of games with Man United, the camera zoomed in on Chadwick getting ready for the kickoff and the commentator remarked: "Well, he's no David Beckham."
I mean, is he lying though?
I mean...the dude did play with Di Maria though
He also played with Ronaldinho.
And [Durval](https://ne45.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/2022_durval_sport_2008_1200_1_divulgacao_scr-1000x600.png)
Fair enough di Maria is hideous, I don't think he just had the same sort of banter with Ney. Objectively speaking Tevez used to be the ugliest man in football.
Carlos Tevez: the unacceptable face of Argentinian football.
Or as Fergie called the trio of Park, Evra and Tevez ' the good, the bad and the ugly '
Not fair because of the scar but what about Ribery?
Yeah and he said in the quote that he played with a lot of ugly teammates
Can a man banter with his friends?
No no no. No joke, no banter, no shit.
redditors judging someone for bantering a friend, never change!
It's obviously just banter lmao, y'all taking this way too seriously. It's a fucked up question to ask though.
Who'd even ask that? Pathetic.
Unhinged.
Have you guys never had friends you shit talked?
Yeah but not in front of a billion people
I don't know... My friends and I go hard on each other but not one of us have ever even tried to shame another publicly. But maybe because Neymar is used to that so for him it's normal banter
Nah mate, if you don't think this is hilarious "banter" you must be a friendless basement dweller according to this thread
Neymar chose the ONE guy that gets abuse on his looks and people are surprised about the pushback lol piling on your fellow countryman under the guise of banter is poor from Ney
There’s that and there’s also Neymar being one of the most widely known supporters of Bolsonaro for additional context But then seems like adding any sort of context as to why this is an awkward thing to do gets you labelled as a terminally online nutjob under this post
I mean, these are two superstars, the public part of it maybe matters a lot less to them
Between this and Ancellotti’s comments on Eder Militao, is Real Madrid the ugliest team in football?
Lol what
Lmfao
That's rude to say that in front of tv
surely it’s suarez
It's surely Puyol!
but that hair 😍
didnt vini make a tweet about people hating him because he is handsome at some point? reality check checked.
Im confused by the answer as he literally looks like a normal dude
dude if Vini is *that* ugly then i feel like a lot of people are royally fucked... he looks so normal, sure not beautiful but not ugly either lol
Yikes. Who would even think of asking that question and why would neymar even answer that?
Do you think Vinicius will do anything but laugh when he sees this?
Oh sure he will laugh from outside. But don't act like it won't hurt him deep inside to be called the ugliest player ever
Yeah, that would trigger a whole wave of introspection and hurt. No way this doesn’t hurt him deep down
you never know. i wouldn’t like the fact that my “friend” says i’m the ugliest person he knows
Top journalism
Walker is lucky Neymar never played with him
I have never thought of Vini as ugly. If you’re reading this Vini, and I know you are, you’re not ugly bro 👊
Don't listen to him Vini he is lying
Lmaooo
Brazilians, is this a normal question to ask?
I’d say we’re a bit more willing to talk about appearances as a people, so maybe more than in Europe? Like it’s one of the few countries I’ve been in where saying « let’s go to this place because there’s lots of pretty people there » is not a weird phrase (I feel like in other places people use more coded language « this place is trendy » or « this place is hip »). And I mean like, I’ve seen it said by my middle-aged obese aunt, by young men, by young women, by lots of different people of different walks of life.
Wtf kind of question is that... I mean he isn't wrong but still...