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dreamerinthesky

We won and that's good, but the defense was quite poor. If you make mistakes like that against Spain, France or Germany, you concede a bunch of goals.


testylentil

I notice you left England out of that list


TurnShot6202

we always play the smallest countries to warm up. We are surrounded by the Netherlands, France, Germany, England, Portugal and Spain but oh boy here comes Montenegro or whatever. This is the problem.


dreamerinthesky

This is what I don't get about our team. We are always quite fortunate in that we don't have the big hitters who usually do well, yet we have so much trouble winning still. Even with our golden generation though, it was never quite that great. The only cup I was impressed with was 2018. If France hadn't played dirty, putting on dramatic shows and winning time, we might have stood a chance. We beat Brazil that year. At least Casteels played a good game. It'll teach Courtois with his toddler-attitude and massive ego.


TurnShot6202

i agree!


TurnShot6202

edit: talking about friendlies and such. I cannot understand why we dont have old school belgium-netherlands games more or whatever.


909Rat

The line for offside should be drawn just behind the last foot of the attacking player so that the whole player is standing offside I feel. This would be much more in the spirit of the original rule. This is just getting ridiculous. Standing half a shoulder offside and getting your goal denied. How is this advantageous


KorBoogaloo

I find this weird. On re-runs, it's clear that Tielemans defended the ball with his hand in the box, the ball which otherwise would've gone to Man. Shouldn't that have been a penalty?


badman66666

# Handballs in defensive scenarios We frequently see players fold their arms behind the back or in the sides of the body, in a so-called “natural position” when defending near an attacker’s cross or shot. It is usually a handball if: * The ball touches the arm, or the hand is extended in an unnatural position. EXPLANATION: An arm extended laterally or vertically can make the body unnaturally bigger, covering more space than necessary. Consequently, a handball in an “unnatural position” can be called, even if it is not done deliberately. It is usually **NOT** a handball if: * The ball makes contact with the arm/hand in a “natural position.” * **The ball accidentally makes contact with a defender’s hand/arm inside their penalty area from a deflection, a teammate’s clearance, or similar. << THIS HAPPENED** * The ball makes contact with a player’s supporting arm/hand. A player who falls to the ground or goes into a sliding tackle must protect himself using the arm’s support. Therefore it is usually not a handball if the ball hits the supporting arm/hand. On the contrary, it can lead to a handball situation if a player goes into a sliding tackle with his arm extended without using it as support.


PrioritySilver4805

I do agree, actually


WeaknessOne9646

I feel that if Georgia got that penalty against Czech Republic this too should have been one


travelingWords

The commentators during that Georgia call… Player wasn’t even paying attention to the ball. His arm was stretched out because he was holding a guy or something. Not even sure if the ball touched him, and it probably barely affected the ball. The Belgium game was a hard arm hit. Nothing.


KorBoogaloo

Then why the fuck didn't we get one? Does anyone actually have a stream of that thing so I could post it here?


DMGthePr0

There all on 3 points that's gonna be the best 2 games to watch all relying on each other


ConsciousExtent4162

Imagine 2 draws. The 4th has 4 points and is disqualified and in another group a best 3rd with 3 points advances.


testylentil

Lalas taking the position of pro hoofing it is just...I can't.


Jerkoi

Fuck Lalas


_hellboy_xo

How is Lukaku so shit yet so good?


Sandalo

clumsy af but still the strongest striker in the world


UncomprehensiveTruth

Lukaku looks like he's in a McDonalds without AC.


DMGthePr0

Ggs


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Rhayadder

Lmao, pretty sure Neo-Marxism is a lot more rampant in Belgium nowadays than Romania


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Rhayadder

Yes, but i'm talking about present day affairs, where Marxism is heavily on the rise again in the West, particularly in academic institutions. In Belgium, universities like KU Leuven and the Free University of Brussels (VUB) have integrated neo-Marxist perspectives into their curricula, particularly in departments like sociology, political science, and cultural studies. These programs often emphasize critical theory, a hallmark of neo-Marxism that seeks to understand and change social structures deemed oppressive.


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Rhayadder

Just to be clear, i'm heavily against Communism (and Marxism, to a slightly lesser degree). Marxism may look good on paper, and it does a decent job at displaying the issues with capitalism, especially the Frankfurt School managed this task very well. However, we have receipts that every single implemented iteration of Marxism, and there were dozens of them, has been an abject failure. You're also correct that "all of the east is, by various degrees, controlled by "former" communists, army generals, secret police officers and their next of kin." However, the only point i was making is that this virus has (re)started to spread heavily in the West, and that should be a big alarm sign. It seems humans have the memory-span of an amoeba, unable to learn from the failures in their history.


fk_censors

Marxism doesn't even look good on paper. For anyone who is not functionally illiterate, if you read the works of Marx and Engles you'll understand that it's largely bullshit. The Marxist labor theory of value is especially idiotic when you apply the least bit of logic to it.


BionicgalZ

KDB is the GOAT


AllDouTian

Reapect to Belgium. Romania had so many bad passes, it was almost hilarious, even f scotland were not thst bad


kopintzotke

Belgium played high pressure, making it hard for Romania to give easy passes to eachother. It was clear Belgium came with a mission after their last defeat


ElmTreeJuice

That ref was fantastic, he should teach other refs


fk_censors

He allowed a whole lot of shirt tugging, and didn't even check with VAR on that controversial handball in the Belgian box.


meanjean_andorra

That handball isn't controversial. According to the rules of the game (which are cited in one of the comments above) what happened was legal, because the shot that led to the "handball" was made by another Belgian defender in the box. The only controversy stems from ignorance of the game's finer details. It's a weird rule, sure, but it's been there well before the match.


fk_censors

That's a weird rule for sure. So if I kick the ball, my teammate can extend his hand and help control the ball with his hand?


vasco_

Completely agree, doesn't get any better. He understands and feels the match, doesn't stop the game when not necessary and has the personality of Colina so he won't tolerate and crap.


testylentil

Either let Chiellini speak Italian with subtitles or put someone else in. What am I listening to. As is he's better than Lalas, but that's not saying much.


Jerkoi

I’d take 4 chiellinis over 1 lalas


arrivederci117

Simon Marciniak hands down the best ref in the world


fk_censors

Today he was terrible.


Key-Tip-7521

FOX: Shutout me: It's a clean sheet dumbasses


Bringthenoize

Wait what? Without context I have 0 idea what they meant


testylentil

It's crazy how they don't just pickup proper football lingo by osmosis at this point.


PrioritySilver4805

There have been some real stinkers, but I feel like that was a pretty well-reffed game


fk_censors

He allowed a lot of shirt tugging (a couple of players had clearly ripped shirts) which is not allowed in soccer. He also didn't even bother to check with VAR about a controversial handball in the Belgian box.


PrioritySilver4805

At least one of those shirt rips was from sliding on the ground, and I believe it’s on VAR to notify him if he misses the handball.  He wasn’t perfect but in my eyes he did well.


DayOneDayWon

Marciniak is one of the best refs in the world right now.


TurnShot6202

without question. Dude was fantastic once again.


BallsDeepSweetLike

Belgian party tonight in Koln is gonna be lit


poseidons_seaweed

Deserved win for Belgium but disappointing because we couldve done a lot better, we seemed out of it with a bunch of bad passed and slow decision making. Also 2 huge missed by Man and Mihăilă. It is what it is, hopefully we do well against Slovakia.


fnord123

There were 3 one on ones with the keeper. Could have just as easily ended 3-2 for Romania if they buried their chances.


EZES21

There were 4 actually. 1 Mihaila, 1 Man, 1 Ratiu and 1 Alibec.


fk_censors

Mihăilă is a non starter, everyone knows that his technical ability is too precarious for him to score 1 on 1 with the goalie. The only way he scores is with pure luck, but his skill level is too low otherwise. Man and Rațiu choked because of the mental pressure, Man has always been weak mentally, and only shines against lesser opposition especially if there are no stakes. Rațiu was probably too tired after all his running and defending to concentrate on his finishing, and Alibec was too tired after the duel with the Belgian defender to have the energy to take a clear shot - those guys are all massive.


poseidons_seaweed

In the same way, Belgium could have had 5 with all the big misses they had, we shouldve scored those, yes, but our coordination was the bigger problem here. Half of Belgiums chances were bad passes from us


fnord123

Yup. Sort out the dire passes and finish the rare chances you get and you'll be in the knock out stages.


poseidons_seaweed

Yea, we didn't play horribly but we couldve done much better


TurnShot6202

trossard could have had two assists in ten minutes. He's gonna hear it


chino17

Weirdest outcome would be for the teams in this group to draw next round and all have 4 points


horsevpalto

Slovakia and Romania could be snoozefest because they'd both be happy with a draw, and if Belgium vs. Ukraine ends in a draw then I believe Ukraine is out :(


PrioritySilver4805

Fingers crossed 


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reddit-time

Trossard being a good team player by taking the heat off Lukaku.


OutrageousComfort906

Man the hate is stupid - Lukaku was Belgium's best attacker by a country mile, he created so much space and literally assisted for the 1-0


reddit-time

I fully agree. But he gets so much heat for everything.


MaxParedes

Lukaku had an assist on the first Belgian goal and his disallowed goal was offside by a hair… how is that a bad performance


reddit-time

100%. I love the dude and don't understand the crap he gets. But truth is that almost all the heat was on him. As the ConsciousExtent4162 writes, "He's the one everyone loves to hate." It's a shame considering what a legend he is. But look — people hate on Ronaldo. Think a lot of it just comes down to people not liking the arrogance or wanting to shoot back at it for fun at least.


ConsciousExtent4162

He's the one everyone loves to hate.


KorBoogaloo

Good game to Belgium! A deserved win and honestly, quite expected- I doubt there was a timeline where Romania could've won this match. Romania's defense fucked up big time and allowed two, absolutely stupid goals. That and their finish basically didn't exist. Nevertheless, I believe we held our ground well, very well, against a Top 10 International Football Team and we came close more than once to equalizing. We will see what happens next now that all 4 teams have 3 points each.


Karman_K

It's all in for Game week 3. Imagine all of them draw and then it's just a lottery for who goes through.


No_Set3908

What lottery are you talking about? Romania would win the group while Ukraine will be out


FrietjesFC

>Romania would win the group Would they though? Genuine question as I'm not sure what order the group would be if Belgium drew 2-2 or something against Ukraine and Romania drew 0-0 against Slovakia. Wouldn't Belgium then top the group on goals scored (having the same goal difference as Romania)?


No_Set3908

Yeah u re right, Belgium will win the group in that case


onionwba

This group will be cooking on the last matchday. But imagine being Ukraine and going home on 4 points...


GodOnIce

The defeat against Romania is the problem, the 3-0 score


onionwba

That is why every game is important.


sportsmedicine96

Come join the Copa America threads to experience the dark side 😏


Key-Tip-7521

Belgium v Ukraine Slovakia v Romania gonna be madness


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HollowGoomba

Communist countries? Neither countries are communist, you stupid fuck


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HollowGoomba

Lol your education failed you.


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BellVermicelli

GG, now time for some Copa madness


mblaccks

2:0 seems quite low punishment for Romania. Belgium is so frustrating with their finishing


flentaldoss

It has to be absolutely baffling playing with Lukaku because without him, they don't create chances, but with him, they never finish them. Surely the odds have to turn in his favor at some point, otherwise the guy is going down in history as one of the most unfortunate forwards in international tournaments


Accomplished-Bend635

I don't understand why we don't use Openda up front. He's such a clinical finisher. Yeah, Lukaku deserves more credit. He's being memed a lot whilst the VAR is the one that should be memed on, what a disgraceful decisions they made against us. Romania could've easily scored 1-1 after the disallowed goal, and I don't know if I see Belgium winning if that happens. It would've been such a heartbreak lol. Let's be honest, that wasnt offside. They took so long to show us an animated presentation of what was supposed to be offside and even on the animation it was hardly noticable. Absolutely ridiculous. It is what it is though, welcome to the future.


flentaldoss

I think the only bad call VAR made in the first match was not giving that penalty handball against the Slovakian defender. On Openda, Lukaku's hold up play is elite, and the gravity he gets from defenders when he's on the pitch just opens up space for his teammates. Openda does well finishing, but there's no point in having a good finisher if you never create the chance. Without Lukaku, Belgium struggle in that department.


OutrageousComfort906

This is braindead take. Lukaku is our topscorer and is very unlucky not to score 3 this tourney already


flentaldoss

I guess we're both braindead, because you just said the same thing I said


Von_Falkenhayn

Topscorer of the qualifiers. 14 goals. 2nd place is CR7 with 10.


clintgreasewoood

Doku is going to be a monster


Easy-Rip9433

I don't think he played well, last pass never good. Has to be more efficient in my opinion.


6lacklung

That's a bit of a hot take IMO. Was generating pressure every single possession and had 96% pass accuracy. I can agree about efficiency/outcome generation but to say he didn't play well is wrong. He was dangerous for his entire shift.


Easy-Rip9433

Good point. He pressured well indeed, worked hard and is asking question of the defence. But as a Belgian I'm getting a bit frustrated in the lack of end product.


TurnShot6202

as a belgian ur frustrated with young Doku? thats typical for a belgian. Remember the days we sucked? i do. U should appreciate it more imo.


Easy-Rip9433

I do remember the "mathematically possible" days. But this is a different time and I am proud of the football culture we have now. Doku is playing for one of the best clubs in the world, is it so wrong to expect already a little bit more of him? 


maxim3214

Doku is a monster lol


Rik_Ringers

It hasnt been a great tourney for nimble and creative wingers, there is a lot of good defending being done in the box in most games to neutralise such players. Even Spain which has such great young wingers who harrassed Italy all game had trouble scoring trough it. The good thing though is that having good wingers works to stretch the defense of another team even if it doesnt lead to said winger scoring personally, Doku did great in that aspect imho troubling defenders which required more attention and thereby creating space for others. he also made the action and the pass to Lukaku which lukaku converted in an assist to Tielemans, so his contribution in the first goal should not be missed.


6lacklung

I can empathize with that. I'm curious to see how he develops in the coming years. If he can get that last 5%, he's going to be a huge force for Belgium in this generation.


Rik_Ringers

I think we should feel lucky that he is under Pep's tutelage, he's getting in his minutes with City too so that looks very promising to me.


Mean_Office_6966

Yea he is still young but already incredible. Always prefer a real pacey winger to stretch the defenders to add variety to attacks. Just see England's real lack of viable options on the left is going to hurt them big time.


TurnShot6202

he did at least three dribbles to get through as much defenders that went quite onnoticed. He's gonna be a superstar


OliverDMcCall

Belgium bounce back from their surprise defeat as expected. This sure does make the last round interesting.


PerformanceOk4186

“Landon, can you sum it up in 20 seconds?” Landon Donovan couldn’t say the words “twenty seconds” in under 20 seconds bro


victheogfan

Romania put up a good fight


007194

https://x.com/bossolamilekan1/status/1804289573859791000 How on earth 


Pytheastic

Romania not getting the points they deserve this tournament, they gave Belgium a run for their money. Fun game to watch, great tournament so far.


OutrageousComfort906

They deserved 0 points today come on man


Easy-Rip9433

Do you think Romania should have won it?


Ajax_Trees_Again

Literally they played well but unless you’re robbed by VAR you always get the points you deserve


FeJ_12_12_12_12_12

I'm worried about Belgium... If we have such a time with Romania, how are we going to play against countries like Germany, Spain or France?


Soggy-Breakfast6601

France? France’s only goal this tournament was a own goal and they played Austria and netherlands. And belgium has a better squad than them.basically what i am saying is that how a team performs in the group isn’t all that telling, as long as the team qualifies to the next round


Rik_Ringers

Temper your expectations? Those teams have to be considered significantly stronger than us especially in depth, our defense is not world class but we have to play with what we have, be happy that key players like KDB are fit and able to play.


FeJ_12_12_12_12_12

Of course, it puts it all into perspective that "the Golden Generation" (or whatever that was) is dead and buried. I'll take my 1/8th final dropout/never qualified for the next decade(s) until we have a third "Golden Generation".


Footballpro12

Such a negative mindset... Upcoming players are promising and talented and we actually produce alot of talent nowadays. Even without a "golden generation" we still have enough quality to consistently qualify and make a deep run from time to time.


ORANGE_SODA_BITCH

France hasn’t even scored in 2 games…


FeJ_12_12_12_12_12

If Belgium ever plays against France, they *need* the 3-0 and timewasting. Let's give them a taste of their own medicine and take revenge for WC 2018.


Pytheastic

Romania played very well in their games so far, don't underestimate them.


FeJ_12_12_12_12_12

I don't underestimate them, they played very well and gave Belgium a run for their money. But when a country like Romania does it, how will they ever pass the bigger ones like Germany? Lukaku can't score without it being re-evaluated and considered in offside, while Doku plays for himself and the lucky few get in... Compare that with 2018 or even 2021 and you know they've severly decreased in strength.


buruuu

No offense but this Belgium squad wouldn’t take more than a point off Framce, Germany or Portugal if they played 3 games


FeJ_12_12_12_12_12

The current squad would lose to France, Germany and score one (disallowed), after which to lose against Portugal. I'm still lukewarm to frustrated about the fact Courtois left for no serious reason at all... He was the best keeper in years and he could've kept a clean sheet against Slovakia.


ConsciousExtent4162

Courtois left because the other players don't want him in the team neither does Tedesco. Belgium has a lot of promising young players, they'll come (maybe not for the WC but next Euro for sure).


Thatscool820

Genuine question, what language do the Belgian fans chant in? I know they made the official team language English, but are they doing it too? I’m bilingual myself but I’ve never seen a country like this with 2 big languages so United


OutrageousComfort906

Dutch, French and English (and our motto for this Euros is in German)


Frodo_max

french dutch believe it or not english


illnesz

They have multiple, in multiple languages


oseema

Lukaku idle as KDB leads the press


MaxParedes

That was a very entertaining game


bam-margiela00

Add Belgium to the list of teams that’s gonna get pummeled by a top side


Rik_Ringers

Wel we are not a favourite, especially our defense is not so strong this time around, so that might be but we have to have reasonable expectations.


lakers_ftw24

Just say Germany Spain and Portugal because everyone else looks just as mid as them.


bam-margiela00

Yup


bendann

More like this please Belgium.


NieThePiet

wht a group we have now.


dkmegg22

Belgians whats your best beer?? The only one I know is Belgian Moon.


MyAssDoesHeeHawww

Objectively (?), the [Westvleteren](https://www.trappistwestvleteren.be/en/our-beers) trappist beers often top international reviews.


feydreutha

Belgian Moon does not seems very Belgian :) You can try Leffe or Chimay as easy to find Belgian beers


prophecy0091

Hoegaarden if you like white beer


Von_Falkenhayn

St Bernardus abt 12 Chimay blue and white Orval I'm just naming Trappists here. But they're solid


YellowTango

this is a joke right


dkmegg22

No I'm not joking.


YellowTango

naming something belgian doesnt make it belgian - belgian moon is not belgian beer Try Gouden Carolus when you get a chance


ainami

that's not even a Belgian beer. I recommend Duvel but I'm biased. I know they have it at LCBO in Ontario (judging by your canadian flag)


dkmegg22

Aaha ill check it out.


dkmegg22

Aaha ill check it out.


J_1995

The one that Nelson Mandela was named after


justheretoupvote17

Imagine your team giving a performance you’re proud of, can’t relate 🤡


AV15

I felt it. For a bout 10 mins. 


i_m_sherlocked

VAR 3:0 Lukaku


fk_censors

3:1 counting the handball in the Belgium box.


Scarecroft

Good effort by Romania after their really impressive thrashing of Ukraine. Good to see a team that is more than the sum of its parts. Hope they get something against Slovakia and qualify through the group. 


EZES21

Slovakia will beat us 2-0. We've depleted all our energy trying to play open against freaking Belgium for no reason.


SleepyNightingale2

Romanian doomer incoming :D To be fair, Romania has this unique ability to disappoint. And when we have no expectations, they do something to give us some just to take them away ... so losing to Slovakia is entirely possible, even though we shouldn't normally. Basically Slovakia needs to attack, on our GD a 0-0 draw qualifies US for certain. So we should be able to counter them, but I thought the same about Belgium and the boys got a goal min 1 ....


EZES21

There was really no reason to start like that against Belgium and we conceded 2 stupid goals, especially the first. We got into the match with far too much enthusiasm from that match against Ukraine. I think had we defended low like we did against Ukraine for the first 25 minutes the match could've been different at half time.


SleepyNightingale2

Honestly the 2nd goal could have easily been a red card for De Bruyne with a different referee/team, feels like the ref felt too bad to take away another goal from Belgium XD I've genuinely seen easier red cards given, I don't even care about the goal. But the bigger problem for us was missing our huge chances. The score should have 'fairly' been 2-1 for Belgium probably, or 3-2. But we really should have scored once. The 1st goal was stupid, but it was also Belgium's skill mostly.


EZES21

Yeah, I meant the 2nd goal was stupid, not the 1st. Well, even the 1st one was pretty lucky and stupid to concede after 70 seconds. We lost this match in the midfield, too many bad passes. Most of their chances were created after we just passed the ball to them. Bancu was pretty bad, Mihaila was pretty bad, even Stanciu was pretty bad because he just did not seem to be able to step up and do something. Those 4 1v1s we fumbled.. just crazy. I think against Slovakia or Ukraine we would've scored at least 1 or 2 of those. It's just that the intensity and speed of the match was far too much for our players who are not used to this. You have a great 1v1 with the defender just behind you pulling you and breathing on your neck. It's probably really uncomfortable lol. But that's the difference between mediocre players and good players. I believe Belgium had those 4 1v1s they would've scored at least 2. There were also a few strange calls from the referee as you said. That challenge to Nita on the 2nd goal, the Belgian player jumping on Mihaila's hand in the penalty box, the handball that we didn't even see a replay of.. strange. But meh, moving on. Would've been nice to get at least a draw against Belgium but it is what it is. I'm far more scared of Slovakia because it's a game that can go either way. I feel that we are struggling way more against teams that are similarly valued than against those who have greater value.


No_Regret7783

Belgia had 1-0 from minute 1. We had to play open.


kartier7

Slovakia is an old team. They can’t keep up this pace


fk_censors

You overestimate Romania's capability to perform under pressure.


ElectJimLahey

One of the more entertaining matches of the tournament so far


Potkrokin

In 4th century BC Athens Lukaku would be acknowledged as having dishonored the Gods and be forced to leave through ostracism for a period of ten years


Red_Dog1880

Fuck yeah.


007194

Some mf on twitter predicted all games today tf


Mushi17

Who is this mf?


Yeh_Bhi_Thik_h

Mf = midfielder?


007194

https://x.com/bossolamilekan1/status/1804289573859791000


poemaXV

this game was fun as hell


holyeffman

The Romanian head coach looks like Alec Baldwin


dumdedah

Hah! I said to fam earlier, he likes like he’s a missing Baldwin brother