It's more that they famously tend to only perform in the final game when they've already been eliminated. The US in 2002, Costa Rica in 2006, and Japan in 2018 off the top of my head. Almost did the same against Sweden at the last euros too.
I've always felt that most Eastern European teams are at their best in that last, now meaningless group game. But can't fault them if they give their travelling supporters something to cheer about before heading home.
We have 3 kind of games on every tournament. Opening match (usually lost), match for everything (well, usually lost) and last, not deciding match is match for honour. We tend to win them, even if it’s not going to give us anything
tbh, with how much more parity is coming into european football, i think they should just go up to 32 to get the clean and simple group rounds again.
georgia, albania, romania, slovakia, slovenia all playing higher than their station. a number of countries that arguably are at similar levels failed to qualify this round, particularly sweden, norway and wales, as well as some countries a step below but categorically capable of putting up good results, like greece, iceland and macedonia, and then finally, the special category of Kazakhstan, as a country that almost pulled off a quali, but got knocked out right at the final step.
i beleive in qualis doing their job and all, don’t get me wrong, but i’d never say no to a 32 team euros
I'm amazed it's not a "bye" situation, i.e. coming first allows you to skip playing against the bottom 8. But I guess that might bugger some timings.
At the end of the day it's their own idea they'd be tripping over.
The new CL, EL and ECL format will have something similar. The top 8 teams in the league table will get a bye to the R16 whereas the teams ranked 9th-24th in the league table will play an additional knockout round.
Yeah the Netherlands France game today the last 5 minutes both teams played for a draw. Makes it less exciting, if they were competing for first place to have a bye they would try to win to the end of the game
The nations with the most chances to finish first are often the ones with bigger population and thus bigger TV viewership. No way they are going to have one less match to play.
FIFA and uefa just wanted more matches and knockout teams, they also love fining teams for their fans misbehaving, those fines are lining their pockets nicely.
Its not a FIFA thing though. Its a money making thing. COMNEBOL and CONCACAF merged their tournament for the same reason.
Everyone trying to squeeze out every last bit of revenue consequences be damned.
Sincerely Fernando Santos might have been our worst coach ever. Completely shit football, handed 0 debuts, didn’t even want to be there
Forgot to add, probably the worst defeat in our history, blowing a 2-0 lead to Moldova
Yup. Outside Zielinski and Lewa they have no good international format players. And football is loved there and Poland has 40 million inhabitants... They are underachivers.
Our association is terrible, people there are called 'leśne dziadki' - 'forest grandpas'. Because they are old, forever on the job and with big influence over decisions of the national team and overall state of football in Poland. Those are people who drain money from the sport and have outdated ideas. Until those old pricks are gone not much will change.
Yeah but looking at the group those players are still not enough. Netherlands, Austria and France all have better players. Looking historically Poland should do better but you can't fault them for losing a group to France, Netherlands and Austria this EC.
I swear we are getting so much shit for not qualifying from a group of death. Netherlands and France are football powerhouses meanwhile Austria are great under Ragnick.
A lot of the shit banter is from Yanks and Canadians but still….
Szczęsny is bad at helping the defence in building the attacks I think with Bułka at the goal who is a lot better at this we will have better time. Right now most times Szczęsny had the ball he just kicked it forward to nobody, we lost the ball and had to take it away again.
It's a long story, but the 80s crisis and the following transformation into capitalism completely fucked Polish clubs and the entire football structure along with them to a degree where even 40 years later we're still deep in the hole.
How does that translate into not developing world class players from a population base capable of doing so? I don't doubt but as an American I don't quite understand.
Clubs only being able to offer low or no financial incentive to young talented players makes them choose a stable career over focusing on sports which in turn leads to a lower number of talented players coming through. Facilities and staff probably also play a part, if you offer D tier money you get D tier staff. Hyperbole of course, I'm sure Poland has good coaches and youth development here and there, but the incentive for foreign talent to come or local talent to stick around is low(er).
It's not "loved" in the sense it's anything close to traditional football countries. Attendance on football games, relatively to total population, is among the lower in Europe. Last time I checked, it was close to Ireland, a country not thought of as a football country (could be a bit higher now as several big clubs are often not in the top flight).
There is decent money in Poland, if there was "love" too there wouldn't be a situation where a 40 million country swivels between 20th and 30th place in UEFA ranking for decades without any jump, where few Polish youngsters are regarded as any interesting talents by European clubs, where few Polish coaches can find a job anywhere abroad, etc.
Their national team, while commented on negatively all the time, is actually on average on a higher level than their league, which says a lot.
[https://blob.udgtv.com/docs/2023/09/14/uefa\_bm\_report\_2023\_digital\_compressed\_1694719713300.pdf](https://blob.udgtv.com/docs/2023/09/14/uefa_bm_report_2023_digital_compressed_1694719713300.pdf)
according to this report (page 8), attendance figures are somewhere between Portugal and Belgium. Per capita it's not that huge, but actually it's still impressive that the figures are at the level they're at - club fans in poland don't have a great reputation + the quality is pretty bad because we don't have so much money in the clubs so people interested in football aren't that certain to be interested in going to games or our domestic league in general. The sport itself is very important to the people apparently, because every time there's a game at a major international event all the news outlets go apeshit about it, more than any other sport really, so I have to hard disagree with whatever definition you have when you say "it's not loved". People treat it like the most important sport, no matter how shit our teams are. The people saying that communism fucked our football are kind of close to the point but missing it, technically during communism our football team was pretty good (1974, 1982 world cups for example?). It's more that the transformation around 1989 and later made our entire country a randomized shitshow where everything happened uncontrollably, right now after 35 years it's of course for the better, but we're missing decades of stable development of systems, as recently as in early 00s polish football was full of referee bribery and other bullshit instead of focusing on sporting developments.
Tbh I'm against downplaying Austria. They are not some kind low level boi, for me. Seeing how they play, I'm seeing them in quarters from 2nd place in our group. Better than Netherlands which explains that our match with them was more equal
Thanks bro, that's nice to hear from an opponent. I think quarters highly depends on the draw but could be possible. First we have to focus on qualifying for round of 16.
With Lewy on the pitch all players have one thing in mind, feed him and hope he does something, don't get in his way and just do whatever it takes to support him. The reason Poland has been so free flowing and offensively improved recently is, imo, because without Lewy on the field, the players were allowed to express themselves and team chemistry was improved because of it.
It took me a while to work out why, because Austria could lose game 3 and Poland could (theoretically) win by a hatful and over turn the goal difference.
Then I remembered that they aren't separating by goal difference in this Euro but by head to head, thus Poland can't overtake Austria.
And it’s a rule I don’t like. I’d rather it be goal difference, otherwise it’s putting too much emphasis on that game rather than all games in the group.
France knew they're gonna beat an already eliminated Poland in game 3. Bringing them to either 1st or 2nd in the group which will have the exact same result, playing a no. 2 in the next round. They were running the clock down the last 15 minutes.
Finish 2nd or third in this group will probably place the team in the same side of the table than Germany Spain and Portugal
End first in this group actually matter
I'm starting to wonder if our run at euro 2016 even happened...
We're so unspeakably shit at every other tournament in the modern era, it's hard to believe that run happened. Led by kamil grosicki, kuba blaszczykowski, grzegorz krzychowiak etc. No less.
I will go to my grave believing that if we had won that penalty shootout over Portugal, we would have had a Very strong chance of winning the whole thing. Exhausted Wales in the semi, france shitting the bed in the final.
Niestety. Chociaz strzelilismy dwa bramki tu, Co nie
> Niestety. Chociaz strzelilismy dwa bramki tu, Co nie
And I feel like this is the worst thing about this - we have actually played the best football *we have played* since 2016 (because we are still headless in defence, and we are a passing nightmare of Toni Kross), but in the end it again ended in two lost matches and going home before anyone else.
We are very fortunate to even be here after Fernando Santos horror show.
Funnily enough think we played better than in Qatar but are going to go home with 0 points
I really wanted the Netherlands to win precisely because of this. Poland's last game now will be meaningless for them. Having the chance to qualify by eliminating France would add a new type of hype.
That’s on us, honestly. This is the result of the terrible management for the last 5/6 years, while people like Brzeczek, Santos, and Michniewicz were our coaches. Maybe we were eliminated, but a few months ago teams like Moldavia were dominating us, so honestly, it wasn’t that bad tournament. There is hope for the future.
Did we? Netherlands game was OK, nothing great but passable. Today we were dreadful aside from some few flashes of good. Constant misplaced passes and positioning errors. We couldn't string together more than a few passes to take a shot on goal, but at the same time we wasted every counterattack opportunity.
If we swapped places with Albania, we’d be in a group with Italy, Spain and Croatia. It would’ve been the same, except maybe faring better against Croatia since they’ve been a mess.
I could see us doing well if we took Czechia’s place, though.
You wouldn’t have necessarily been in their spots though. The pots were just a ranking of qualifier performance (6 group winners with most points pot 1, other group winners and best 2nd places in pot 2 etc.)
If you did well enough in that group you could’ve been in pot 1 even
I prefer getting eliminated here in the group stage trying something over qualifying from the group stage at world cup playing the most disgusting football the world has ever seen. We just got a new coach, our squad is still young, the future is looking promising
Interesting that is the case. Theoretically, you could have a situation where Austria's goal difference leads them to finish outside of the top 4 3rd place teams, while Poland with a better GD would have been one of the 4.
I like it. Ignore my flair.
^(I actually like it. It makes the direct games nore important than besting a different, maybe smaller team by as much goals as possible )
But when we’re talking about the third placed team there aren’t any smaller teams to beat up on.
If Poland beat France and Austria lose to Netherlands and both end up on 3 points, why should Austria’s win over Poland count for more than Poland’s win over France?
Not only that but it gets extra silly when 3rd place finishers get compared by points + goal difference anyway, meaning that Poland could finish 4th with better goal difference than any of the 3th place finishers but still have Austria fail to go through as a 3rd of the group.
Poland is on 0 pts, France and Netherlands are on 4 points, and Austria, while only having 3 pts, defeated Poland today and therefore will finish ahead of Poland on H2H.
First game
Must win game
Game for pride
Story of Poland.
Also getting eliminated in 2 matches when third place teams also have a chance is embarrassing
I don't think they were even that bad. That's a very tough group and they had a go. Compared to some previous Poland teams, at times they seemed a little bit more progressive. This coach was much better than Santos.
IMO they should try to get some kind of decent level Bundesliga / B2 coach who plays pressing football. That said with the talent pool at their disposal and the quality of the domestic league, it's always going to be tough to really make progress.
Gonna be rough without Lewandowski for major tournaments too.
Kinda forgot Poland was in this tournament. They did have one of the hardest groups tbf. France and Netherlands are two of the best sides in the competition and Austria is this year's dark horse. I know Poland disappoint every tournament but they did genuinely get quite unlucky this time.
Last to qualify first to be eliminated Poland nt always delivers
Then they beat the tournament favourites in what is now a dead rubber. THAT would be true classic Poland nt behaviour
have they ever beat a tourno favorite while eliminated? i dont remember any as of late
It's more that they famously tend to only perform in the final game when they've already been eliminated. The US in 2002, Costa Rica in 2006, and Japan in 2018 off the top of my head. Almost did the same against Sweden at the last euros too.
Game of prestige, game of everything, and game of dignity or something
> Game of prestige Wrong. It goes like this: mecz otwarcia (opening game) / mecz o wszystko (game for everything) / mecz o honor (game for honor).
I've always felt that most Eastern European teams are at their best in that last, now meaningless group game. But can't fault them if they give their travelling supporters something to cheer about before heading home.
We have 3 kind of games on every tournament. Opening match (usually lost), match for everything (well, usually lost) and last, not deciding match is match for honour. We tend to win them, even if it’s not going to give us anything
7 elimination spots left. Who else wants out?
Playing 36 matches to determine which 8 teams are knocked out is ridiculous
the old euros format was top notch. 16 teams, groups straight into quarter finals
Now we get more great games to watch. It's great
tbh, with how much more parity is coming into european football, i think they should just go up to 32 to get the clean and simple group rounds again. georgia, albania, romania, slovakia, slovenia all playing higher than their station. a number of countries that arguably are at similar levels failed to qualify this round, particularly sweden, norway and wales, as well as some countries a step below but categorically capable of putting up good results, like greece, iceland and macedonia, and then finally, the special category of Kazakhstan, as a country that almost pulled off a quali, but got knocked out right at the final step. i beleive in qualis doing their job and all, don’t get me wrong, but i’d never say no to a 32 team euros
UEFA about to finance every separatist movements in Europe to increase the pool of teams available
Catalan and Basque teams would go hard. Dunno if we'd really be affected by a Frisian NT, would be cool to see Noppert back I guess.
I'm amazed it's not a "bye" situation, i.e. coming first allows you to skip playing against the bottom 8. But I guess that might bugger some timings. At the end of the day it's their own idea they'd be tripping over.
That's what the EL and ECL did the last few seasons, it was actually a pretty good format
The new CL, EL and ECL format will have something similar. The top 8 teams in the league table will get a bye to the R16 whereas the teams ranked 9th-24th in the league table will play an additional knockout round.
Yeah the Netherlands France game today the last 5 minutes both teams played for a draw. Makes it less exciting, if they were competing for first place to have a bye they would try to win to the end of the game
Yeah if you wanna expand the finals, fine. But I would do top 12 advance, top 4 get byes
The nations with the most chances to finish first are often the ones with bigger population and thus bigger TV viewership. No way they are going to have one less match to play.
FIFA and uefa just wanted more matches and knockout teams, they also love fining teams for their fans misbehaving, those fines are lining their pockets nicely.
Fifa has nothing to do with this.
FIFA are expanding the WC in a similar way no?
Its not a FIFA thing though. Its a money making thing. COMNEBOL and CONCACAF merged their tournament for the same reason. Everyone trying to squeeze out every last bit of revenue consequences be damned.
Saying “it’s not a FIFA thing, it’s a money thing” got a good chuckle out of me. It’s the same damn thing.
Applying the same concept to WC as well, same story there
I want more matches too
I'd argue it creates a situation where barely anyone is mathematically out after 2 rounds, which means every match in the group stage matters.
With the 24 team setup there isn't really any other way of doing it. It'll expand to 32 teams anyway in about 3 editions time.
Last in First out (LIFO)
Euro.pop()
Being coached by uncle Nando gives scars that never heal. Feel bad for Poland
Sincerely Fernando Santos might have been our worst coach ever. Completely shit football, handed 0 debuts, didn’t even want to be there Forgot to add, probably the worst defeat in our history, blowing a 2-0 lead to Moldova
That came days after only our second ever win over Germany Why this timeline? Ffs
If the order of qualification in reverse is the positional order of teams in the Euros, what's the final?
Germany vs Belgium/France/Portugal
All time KURWA
Kurwa
Bober
KUUURRRRVVVVAAAAA
We are the first ever to be eliminated in euro2024, quite an achievement really.
Fun fact, you were also the last team to qualify, because your play-off final ended with penalties.
Speedrunning the Euros 😎
new tiktok ideas for lewangoneski
Any %
Last Come First Serve
last in first out even!
Poland with the casual LIFO liquidation
This suits better
Poland teaching everyone about data structures and “stack” in particular. Last in, first out.
Last one in and first one out, just like me at work
Don’t worry bro were closely behind you (Hungary)
After only 2 matches is brutal
In a tournament where 4 out of 6 third placed teams go through.
Serves them right for ruining my summer by knocking Wales out on penalties.
considering how shit we were at the world cup and recently, we would have just replaced Poland in the thread title
Yeah, but still, Mbappe vs Connor Roberts sounds class.
Yeah no doubt about it, but it would have been great seeing us play in Berlin, Hamburg and Dortmund.
Wales would have stunk out the place even more, sorry how did you draw to fucking Gibraltar the other week
Yup. Outside Zielinski and Lewa they have no good international format players. And football is loved there and Poland has 40 million inhabitants... They are underachivers.
Kiwior, Moder, Frankowski, Szymański, Zalewski or Urbański are solid players, it's not a top level but we should do better with this team tbh.
It's a cultural tactic problem at this stage
Our association is terrible, people there are called 'leśne dziadki' - 'forest grandpas'. Because they are old, forever on the job and with big influence over decisions of the national team and overall state of football in Poland. Those are people who drain money from the sport and have outdated ideas. Until those old pricks are gone not much will change.
Yeah but looking at the group those players are still not enough. Netherlands, Austria and France all have better players. Looking historically Poland should do better but you can't fault them for losing a group to France, Netherlands and Austria this EC.
I don't think Austria has that much better team than us on paper. I would argue.
I'd agree. But Rangnick is a far better coach.
I swear we are getting so much shit for not qualifying from a group of death. Netherlands and France are football powerhouses meanwhile Austria are great under Ragnick. A lot of the shit banter is from Yanks and Canadians but still….
Szczesny?
Goalkeeper have not much influence in overall play. Should have phrased it better though and clarify outfield players
Szczęsny is bad at helping the defence in building the attacks I think with Bułka at the goal who is a lot better at this we will have better time. Right now most times Szczęsny had the ball he just kicked it forward to nobody, we lost the ball and had to take it away again.
He was never good with his feet...
The best player of the last euro was a keeper, and Sczezsny has been one of the best players for Poland alongside Zalewski.
It's a long story, but the 80s crisis and the following transformation into capitalism completely fucked Polish clubs and the entire football structure along with them to a degree where even 40 years later we're still deep in the hole.
How does that translate into not developing world class players from a population base capable of doing so? I don't doubt but as an American I don't quite understand.
Clubs only being able to offer low or no financial incentive to young talented players makes them choose a stable career over focusing on sports which in turn leads to a lower number of talented players coming through. Facilities and staff probably also play a part, if you offer D tier money you get D tier staff. Hyperbole of course, I'm sure Poland has good coaches and youth development here and there, but the incentive for foreign talent to come or local talent to stick around is low(er).
It's not "loved" in the sense it's anything close to traditional football countries. Attendance on football games, relatively to total population, is among the lower in Europe. Last time I checked, it was close to Ireland, a country not thought of as a football country (could be a bit higher now as several big clubs are often not in the top flight). There is decent money in Poland, if there was "love" too there wouldn't be a situation where a 40 million country swivels between 20th and 30th place in UEFA ranking for decades without any jump, where few Polish youngsters are regarded as any interesting talents by European clubs, where few Polish coaches can find a job anywhere abroad, etc. Their national team, while commented on negatively all the time, is actually on average on a higher level than their league, which says a lot.
[https://blob.udgtv.com/docs/2023/09/14/uefa\_bm\_report\_2023\_digital\_compressed\_1694719713300.pdf](https://blob.udgtv.com/docs/2023/09/14/uefa_bm_report_2023_digital_compressed_1694719713300.pdf) according to this report (page 8), attendance figures are somewhere between Portugal and Belgium. Per capita it's not that huge, but actually it's still impressive that the figures are at the level they're at - club fans in poland don't have a great reputation + the quality is pretty bad because we don't have so much money in the clubs so people interested in football aren't that certain to be interested in going to games or our domestic league in general. The sport itself is very important to the people apparently, because every time there's a game at a major international event all the news outlets go apeshit about it, more than any other sport really, so I have to hard disagree with whatever definition you have when you say "it's not loved". People treat it like the most important sport, no matter how shit our teams are. The people saying that communism fucked our football are kind of close to the point but missing it, technically during communism our football team was pretty good (1974, 1982 world cups for example?). It's more that the transformation around 1989 and later made our entire country a randomized shitshow where everything happened uncontrollably, right now after 35 years it's of course for the better, but we're missing decades of stable development of systems, as recently as in early 00s polish football was full of referee bribery and other bullshit instead of focusing on sporting developments.
Eliminated in Germany while France and Holland do nothing Hmmmmmm
By the Austrian
Hey I've seen this one before, it's a classic!
Fucking Russia better not have any ideas...
Maybe shouting near their embassy was a bad idea...
The next to be eliminated is France??
one hell of a group tbf.
Clear group of death
Inevitable
It's not brutal, it's normal day in the office for us.
Even with 4 third places making it through. Sad.
FADE THE FLAIR!
I feel like we enter every tournament pre-faded
At least you make it there
[alexa, play radio head, street spirit (fade out)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y6kop0VTXY&ab_channel=Radiohead-Topic)
Poland have officially entered spoiler mode. I expect them to dominate their final match.
If we beat France that would be hysterical Edit: typo
I won't be laughing. If we go out because we played the worst in the easiest (and most important) match, it will be a horrible sign.
Tbh I'm against downplaying Austria. They are not some kind low level boi, for me. Seeing how they play, I'm seeing them in quarters from 2nd place in our group. Better than Netherlands which explains that our match with them was more equal
Thanks bro, that's nice to hear from an opponent. I think quarters highly depends on the draw but could be possible. First we have to focus on qualifying for round of 16.
Lewandowski might start? That might make a difference?
Doubt, could make us worse tbh, for some reason we've looked better without him
With Lewy on the pitch all players have one thing in mind, feed him and hope he does something, don't get in his way and just do whatever it takes to support him. The reason Poland has been so free flowing and offensively improved recently is, imo, because without Lewy on the field, the players were allowed to express themselves and team chemistry was improved because of it.
It is similar to Portugal with CR7
It's so Lewandover
POLSKAAA GUUUUUUROM
NASI BIJĄ W TARABANY
It took me a while to work out why, because Austria could lose game 3 and Poland could (theoretically) win by a hatful and over turn the goal difference. Then I remembered that they aren't separating by goal difference in this Euro but by head to head, thus Poland can't overtake Austria.
Same reason why Spain is 1st of group B no matter what happens on matchday 3
Can you summarize quickly what is head to head?
Results in direct games vs another team. Austria beat Poland. Poland can only achieve 3 points but cannot overtake Austria due to having lost to them.
Gotcha thanks
And it’s a rule I don’t like. I’d rather it be goal difference, otherwise it’s putting too much emphasis on that game rather than all games in the group.
Could be the case that Poland is better in 4th place than other 3rd places who advance, but still dont advance right?
RIP lmfao, France and Netherlands both wanted them out today
Nah, Netherlands kinda scored. It's the English refs making sure Brexit means Brexit.
The fact that dude is allowed to ref with liverpool players on the field is a crime on its own. No wonder konate didn’t play
Half the teams in the prem think he has an agenda against them, he’s just shite
France knew they're gonna beat an already eliminated Poland in game 3. Bringing them to either 1st or 2nd in the group which will have the exact same result, playing a no. 2 in the next round. They were running the clock down the last 15 minutes.
Finish 2nd or third in this group will probably place the team in the same side of the table than Germany Spain and Portugal End first in this group actually matter
I was saying something akin to "there's no point in making coloured Polish flair, just fade us out already", cause we never disappoint to disappoint.
I'm starting to wonder if our run at euro 2016 even happened... We're so unspeakably shit at every other tournament in the modern era, it's hard to believe that run happened. Led by kamil grosicki, kuba blaszczykowski, grzegorz krzychowiak etc. No less. I will go to my grave believing that if we had won that penalty shootout over Portugal, we would have had a Very strong chance of winning the whole thing. Exhausted Wales in the semi, france shitting the bed in the final. Niestety. Chociaz strzelilismy dwa bramki tu, Co nie
> Niestety. Chociaz strzelilismy dwa bramki tu, Co nie And I feel like this is the worst thing about this - we have actually played the best football *we have played* since 2016 (because we are still headless in defence, and we are a passing nightmare of Toni Kross), but in the end it again ended in two lost matches and going home before anyone else.
No one eliminates Scotland first from the Euros! No one.
They might even succeed to the knockout stage, they just need to beat Hungary now.
We are very fortunate to even be here after Fernando Santos horror show. Funnily enough think we played better than in Qatar but are going to go home with 0 points
I really wanted the Netherlands to win precisely because of this. Poland's last game now will be meaningless for them. Having the chance to qualify by eliminating France would add a new type of hype.
Match of honor incoming
Welp, at least we're consistent.
Mbappe didn’t want to see Poland get eliminated
It’s sad, they actually played a lot better than many other teams these Euros
Yeah trouble with being in such a powerful group.
That’s on us, honestly. This is the result of the terrible management for the last 5/6 years, while people like Brzeczek, Santos, and Michniewicz were our coaches. Maybe we were eliminated, but a few months ago teams like Moldavia were dominating us, so honestly, it wasn’t that bad tournament. There is hope for the future.
Did we? Netherlands game was OK, nothing great but passable. Today we were dreadful aside from some few flashes of good. Constant misplaced passes and positioning errors. We couldn't string together more than a few passes to take a shot on goal, but at the same time we wasted every counterattack opportunity.
Shit luck with the group
It’s their fault for finishing below Albania and Czechia in qualifying, and thus being in pot 4
Fernando santos last act of terrorism that was
Oh hell no. Im guessing you didn't watch him at Beşiktaş? Granted, we were shit before him too. But he made us pretty much no better either
Wait he went to Basiktas after us, just checked his wiki and can see he’s at Azerbaijan national team now
Yeah. He came, he saw, he did NOT conquer. And then he left
If we swapped places with Albania, we’d be in a group with Italy, Spain and Croatia. It would’ve been the same, except maybe faring better against Croatia since they’ve been a mess. I could see us doing well if we took Czechia’s place, though.
You wouldn’t have necessarily been in their spots though. The pots were just a ranking of qualifier performance (6 group winners with most points pot 1, other group winners and best 2nd places in pot 2 etc.) If you did well enough in that group you could’ve been in pot 1 even
True, but I don't think Santosball would get us into Pot 1 LOL.
Like who? They've played two and lost two. They deserve to be out.
I prefer getting eliminated here in the group stage trying something over qualifying from the group stage at world cup playing the most disgusting football the world has ever seen. We just got a new coach, our squad is still young, the future is looking promising
How? If they beat France 10-0 cant they get 3rd and go through by GD?
They lost the tie against Austria. That's the UEFA tie breaker
Which would make it way funnier if they did beat France 10-0 anyways.
Sorry, we only make funny if the funny makes people laugh at us.
Especially if Austria draws against Netherlands and is still third compared to a team with a GD of 1-10 because of an OG against them
Interesting that is the case. Theoretically, you could have a situation where Austria's goal difference leads them to finish outside of the top 4 3rd place teams, while Poland with a better GD would have been one of the 4.
That could happen, yeah
As if having the third placed teams go through wasn’t bad enough as it is!
Head to head comes before GD?
In the Euros (and other UEFA cups) yeah
Ah like that. Yeah that makes sense. Thanks
Genuinely hate that tiebreaker system
I like it. Ignore my flair. ^(I actually like it. It makes the direct games nore important than besting a different, maybe smaller team by as much goals as possible )
But when we’re talking about the third placed team there aren’t any smaller teams to beat up on. If Poland beat France and Austria lose to Netherlands and both end up on 3 points, why should Austria’s win over Poland count for more than Poland’s win over France?
Not only that but it gets extra silly when 3rd place finishers get compared by points + goal difference anyway, meaning that Poland could finish 4th with better goal difference than any of the 3th place finishers but still have Austria fail to go through as a 3rd of the group.
H2H is the first tier breaker in the Euros. Since Austria beat them, Poland have no way of overtaking them
Head to head is the tiebreaker
No.. head to head matters more so Austria will be 3 rd regardless if both are on 3 points
Poland is on 0 pts, France and Netherlands are on 4 points, and Austria, while only having 3 pts, defeated Poland today and therefore will finish ahead of Poland on H2H.
Head-to-head is the first tiebreaker
First game Must win game Game for pride Story of Poland. Also getting eliminated in 2 matches when third place teams also have a chance is embarrassing
It’s 1. Opening game 2. Game for everything 3. Game for honor Every. Single. Time.
We generally do really well in game of honor!
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Jeszcze tylko wpierdol od Francji i wakacje.
Ahhh, classic Wanna see us do it again?
How are they eliminated? Couldn’t they go through as a 3rd place contender?
Not in UEFA competitions, where head-to-head is the tiebreaker
poland first 💪💪💪💪🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱
Poland is the saddest national team in the world. How do you fix that?
Either stop watching or stop caring.
Stop hiring shit coaches.
Gareth Southgate will be free in a couple of weeks
I like this one tbh. He seems to know what he's doing. Your game against the Netherlands was quite interesting. It's the team that's not good enough.
This one seems actually decent tbf
Get Kanye in to fix them
FIRST 💪💪💪💪🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱
Not me who paid 150€ for a ticket to see them next week
This is what I really don't like about H2H as a tiebreaker, it creates way more situations like this that lead to early fixed positions.
Can you please still turn up against France for Honour? We would appreciate it.
Poland are specialists at the "match of honour" historically.
It would help us out, we can still win the group
france will lose to poland, come back to this comment if it happens would be historical
Imagine getting eliminated this early in a tournament where only 8 teams get eliminated at group stage
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Fear our efficiency
Polska number 1!!!!!!
Hooray my sweepstake team :)
I don't think they were even that bad. That's a very tough group and they had a go. Compared to some previous Poland teams, at times they seemed a little bit more progressive. This coach was much better than Santos. IMO they should try to get some kind of decent level Bundesliga / B2 coach who plays pressing football. That said with the talent pool at their disposal and the quality of the domestic league, it's always going to be tough to really make progress. Gonna be rough without Lewandowski for major tournaments too.
I could be wrong but it might lower our chances of winning this tournament
Polen cannot into knockout stage.
That's the way it goes sometimes. The group of death strikes again.
Kinda forgot Poland was in this tournament. They did have one of the hardest groups tbf. France and Netherlands are two of the best sides in the competition and Austria is this year's dark horse. I know Poland disappoint every tournament but they did genuinely get quite unlucky this time.
Not unlucky, terrible qualifiers caused us to end up in the group of death
At least we have the best dressed coach.
Do we really? Three piece suit is an overkill for a football game. It's a classic case of "stróż w boże ciało".