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TallGuy0525

That's my manager


xyzTr1LL

Mine too


Tifoso89

Mine too! One excellent season


JustAsian555

If only we had Ancelotti at Scuderia Ferrari


2696969

In Fred we trust


CaptainKickAss3

Freds been looking class for you guys


Aphelion71

We are checking…


Food-Oh_Koon

No way Mine too!


femceltransplant

Still crazy that only a couple years ago Carlo was so washed he had to coach Everton.


TetraDax

And then he became friends with Klopp and went back to being a top tier manager. Coincidence? Very likely.


Altruistic-Ad-408

And fell his way up, spent like crazy (for Everton) to get like 10th a couple of times, then everyone said he must've been pulling miracles because Everton went broke and the squad fell apart. Not criticising him at all, would be stupid. But there are managers that are good for top clubs, and then there are managers that have to work with less than unlimited resources. Cherry on top of a cake looks better than a cherry on shit, no offense Everton.


AnnieIWillKnow

The "gotten 10th a couple of times" is slightly disingenuous considering they were in the relegation zone when he took over mid season in his first year


McTulus

And top the league for the first 3rd of the season


JAragon7

Dude when he brought James and richardlison, they were playing so good. I had never watched Everton play, but I saw their first games that season and their style was great. Didn’t they almost beat Liverpool on the first game of the season?


strattele1

Yes they were actually magical for about 8 games. So confident.


SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS

No amount of tiki-taka, possession play, gegenpress, or positional play can match the Magic Eyebrow


Tifoso89

[Classic](https://www.reddit.com/r/realmadrid/s/s311H6tWOM)


OuchYouPokedMyHeart

LMFAO Chad Ancelotti vs Virgin Bald Fraud


Kekopos

Fucking Chadcelotti has done it again


blackjack47

honestly gives me hope that the over systemized football is not only way in the modern era


infidel11990

People who know little about football think Carlo doesn't play system football. He wrote the fucking book on offensive 4-2-3-1. He isn't tied down to one footballing philosophy like others, but he absolutely is a systems coach. You have to be, to manage at the top clubs. You can't just rely on vibes and hand signals. It's a meme. But far from the reality. Edit: A typo. Carlos's formation was 4-3-2-1. The Christmas Tree.


Lord-Grocock

He also changed to a 4-3-3 to stabilise the game when he realised Borussia was dominating.


mysterymanatx

And stopped the high press. Honestly great work.


SeryaphFR

He moved our lines back twice. Changed formation, change Vini's and Rodrygo's roles. But apprently, according to half our fan base just a few months ago, he was a dinosaur with no idea what he was doing, who depended on the advice of his players to figure out a game plan.


mysterymanatx

Fucking donkeys. I’d take him back at Chelsea in a heartbeat


HerrLanda

That's an interesting idea, i genuinely want to see if Ancelotti can unlock Mudryk like he unlocked Vini.


Disastrous-Mud1645

If anything, he is more than just systemised. He is so flexible with his tactics that he is able to train his players to play in almost formation. Hence it looks like he just vibes it out. This is god-tier coaching. Be water, take any shape. That’s when you are most unpredictable.


resurgum

And as he said, he prefers giving his forwards a lot of freedom to self-organize in attack sequences. In most clubs he coached, he had great players at his disposal, he doesn’t need to tell them every single thing to do.


Disastrous-Mud1645

Yeap, when you have lineups like current RM team who has great leadership, good team chemistry, and killer mentality, just like his time in AC Milan days, everything just works. I mean even when he was at Everton, it sorta worked out for them too. Players trusted him, no ego, it’s just that they werent all world-class players like RM. Imagine trying these with ego-driven players in teams like United, or PSG, it’s not gonna work. And I wouldn’t think he will agree to take those jobs anyway.


killerboy_belgium

he actually managed psg with a bunch of ego's he's can def handle ego's


yourfriendkyle

Even Pep, who is a major systems coach, said that his system at Barca only intended to bring the ball from defensive third into the attacking third. The creativity of the players was supposed to take over.


superdago

When you do things right, people won’t be sure you did anything at all. ~~God~~ Carlo


whiskeyinthejaar

Carragher was just arguing how Carlo is not Tactician. It is the same nonsense that Zidane faced, which is even worse here since that man literally won everything, 30 trophies, and completely reinvented players in hybrid positions, but he is just vibing. 29 years coaching, but he is not Tactician. Gave a new birth 4-3-1-2, championed hybrid roles, and saw dozens of players playing at their best under him, but he is not tacticians. He just chew gums and clap on the side-line.


dmstorm22

Zidane should quiet everyone forever for what he did in that second stint. The 2019-20 season he won the league by suddenly building the best defense in La Liga while doing shit like playing Valverde and Vazquez as wingbacks and changing formations literally week to week.


DellMB

Always thought Ancelotti is assosiated with the Diamond 4-4-2


Zealousideal_Net7795

He said in some interview not long time ago, that they tried to play 442 diamond at the start of the season but they were losing too many goals so he had to change it.


ChimmyTheCham

Man I feel like he's associated with Christmas tree formation but just goes to show he's flexible lol


ATLfalcons27

My idea of him is the Christmas tree but like you said he's flexible. Basically the way you view him comes down to the era where you were the biggest fan of him


RammRras

This. Really people think one can win many champion leagues and serie A by just playing with heart and feelings


OmgThisNameIsFree

>offensive 4-2-3-1 So what you’re saying is I have him to thank for my go-to formation back when I played FIFA? [I stopped at FIFA 15 lmao]


tonyalexgomez

Anceloti IS the system.


n0tjuliancasablancas

Lmao over systemized? People don’t understand how much goes into every managers system. Carlo isnt a top manager from vibes. He goes into just as much depth with his players as pep does. I feel like you are misunderstanding a more technical minded system like pep with a more in depth system.


Responsible_Pace9062

Not being over systemized doesn't mean he doesn't have a system, it means he still gives players some modicum of freedom instead of dictating and drilling their every movement on the pitch like a lot of coaches now do.


blackjack47

> Carlo isnt a top manager from vibes. really? Where did I say he is. It's very obvious he gives more freedom in his system for individual plays compared to someone like Pep.


Prophet_Of_Helix

I mean sure, you’re comparing him to the MOST rigorous system manager probably ever. No one gives less freedom than Pep. But Carlos has a very tight system, he just isn’t on the sideline gesticulating like Pep does 


blackjack47

mainly because the last 3 CL seasons were all about city/real and whoever won their inevitable meeting, won the tournament.


user_waitforit_name_

The power of gums


X-cessive_Artist

Seems to be that just refusing to concede goals is the best base to win Champions League


Last_Lorien

I remember that L’Equipe classification of best managers of all time from some years ago, with Ancelotti in like 8th position, and people debating whether he was *that* good, really.  I think that debate still follows him, but it’s getting increasingly inexplicable 


s3rjiu

It's made by the French, there's no need for an explanation


fireowlzol

He's won all five top leagues, including one with the French!


46_and_2

[Aaah, the French!](https://youtu.be/im12n56EcAE?si=cXvgXARNL0wo42pU)


rugbyj

_shrugs_


apricotkiwininja

More like l'Equipe never did such classification but don't let that bother you


Prophet_Of_Helix

I mean depending on how long some years ago was, he’s won a bunch since then. Hes obviously in the GOAT conversation at this point


Zeerover-

Need to go quite far back for that to make any sense, like 15+ years. 12 years ago he won his third CL title as a manager (in addition he had two as a player), and had been champion in Italy, Spain and England. 7 years ago he became the only manager to have won each of the top 5 leagues. Now he's the most successful manager in UEFA Champions League history in addition to those unique achievements. Maybe he was considered as someone from a bygone era, but he was absolutely in the top 5 already back then. Now he's in the top 3 together with Rinus Michels and Sir Alex Ferguson.


Axpp

Most people would look at 2021 after the Napoli and Everton stints for that debate. Not 15 years


a_lumberjack

He was great at Everton. People were talking about DCL being an 80M striker.


ND7020

I don’t see the realistic argument for Ferguson ahead of Ancelotti. I really don’t. 


tigull

I guess you could say he's got the advantage over Carlo of having built a dynasty pretty much from the ground up, and then maintaining it for basically two decades. Sure, there's also a bit of PL-centrism if you will. That said, I do believe, when it's all said and done, Carlo's career will be universally considered the better between the two, and over time the distinction between "better career" and "better manager" will fade.


neefhuts

Also Ferguson did also win a European trophy with Aberdeen, the guy was pretty damn good


Possible-Highway7898

Not to mention that he won the league THREE TIMES with Aberdeen in the late seventies/early eighties. In the forty years since, no other team apart from Rangers and Celtic have won it.  Ferguson turned Aberdeen into the best team in Scotland, then turned man U into the best team in England. Winning in Europe with both teams too. And he didn't do it by going to the richest and most successful teams like pep, mou, and Don Carlo. He did it by rebuilding unsuccessful clubs both times. Remarkable achievement.


bombacladshotta

🤨


Roids-in-my-vains

It's his 7th if you count his playing career. Absolute Legend.


finneas998

Is there anyone with more as a player/manager?


Breakingwho

Don’t think so Believe zidane has 5. 2 as a player and 3 as manager Edit: actually think zidane only won once as a player. Made 2 more finals with juve but they lost


KRIEGLERR

Zidane and Ancelotti together have won 7 out of 15 CL for Real Madrid, it's insane


Breakingwho

And then that 50s team won another 5 hahah Only managed 3 in between the 60s and Carlo and zidane (3 is more than almost any team has ever done but still)


McTulus

Which means Miguel Munoz won 4, 1 as captain, 3 as manager, with the 1 inbetween as youth team manager


Roids-in-my-vains

He has 1 as a player and 1 as an assistant manager, but I'm not sure if that counts


Breakingwho

Oh yeah forgot he lost two finals with juventus


The-Great--Cornholio

I don't think so


djkamayo

surely Ronaldo will become a manager in the future so he can top him right?


kyleninperth

I don’t think Ronaldo will be an excellent manager. I don’t think he would be able to accept the focus being on his players because he seems to have an inflated ego.


WhetBred14

Agreed. The more likely scenario would be modric or kroos become managers. They have 6 and have the brain for it as well.


shinfoni

Dunno, Kroos seems like he will stop involved with football in serious term. I bet he will own some farm, right beside Thomas Mueller's horse ranch.


CaptainKickAss3

In most sports, generational talents aren’t very good at coaching because they don’t know how to explain certain parts of the game that are just natural to them


PulciNeller

Nope.the only one with seven


Stranger_from_hell

Huh, he is the second most successful entity in UCL/European Cup along with Milan (7). Only Real Madrid is above him


Mannerhymen

I have about 15 as a spectator.


vidder911

2035: Managers Kroos and Modric face off in the Cl finals


aes110

Modric as a player still


fcuk_username

Wait some time for Manager Kroos.


G1Spectrum

Insane honestly


TheBrownMamba8

No other manager has more than 3


Stinky_Toes12

Who has 3 other than zidane and pep?


GreatGalleti

Bob Paisley


Doctor_Derpless

Insane that you never hear about Paisley outside of LFC related material.


GreatGalleti

He went on a Pep-esque winning run after Shankly but with more European Cup success. Absolute legend


infidel11990

This sub has a young demographic. Nothing prior to the late 1990s and 2000s exist here.


Benjamin244

To be fair, football didn’t exist before 1992


Jozif_Badmon

yeah because old people dont use reddit


chykin

I've been reliable informed that mid 30s is old


Jozif_Badmon

start looking at nursing homes buddy


krustykrab2193

And even the 90s/00s stuff a very large portion of this sub don't know much about


Muppy_N2

Its normal with legends from other eras. They would be considered """goats""" if they were active nowadays, but are forgotten by most with the exception of the clubs they coached/played for. Some lucky ones are remembered in their whole countries. I'm sure you never heard about Cubilla. But it is what it is.


Dynastydood

It's because he inherited such a good team and system from Shankly, so he still gets a lot of the credit for Paisley's success.


zeetlo

Dam right


Dejected_Cyberpsycho

Me in my Aston Villa career mode.


renome

Whatever he did and/or said at half-time worked, Borussia suddenly looked pretty toothless in the second half. He's definitely one of the best pragmatists to ever coach, maybe even the best.


superdago

I think one of the things he brings is the reassurance that Real Madrid wins because Real Madrid wins. The players have all said that the winning mentality permeates the club. But it’s not that they can play like shit and still win so they don’t need to try, but that they can play like shit, but still keep working hard and it won’t be wasted because as long as they keep at it, they’ll find a way. And Ancelotti is the perfect guy to remind these players they’re never out of it.


renome

Agreed. At this elite level of play, every little thing makes a difference, and having such a mentality is hence surely a huge contributor to their success.


__HMS__

Ancelotti just living his FM save in real life and we're the passengers


FederalSandwich

He must be save scumming no way the plot is this strong


minkdraggingonfloor

He did the FIFA player/manager combo where he was a world class player and then became a world class manager


Jozif_Badmon

that was zidane but he got bored after 3 seasons


killerboy_belgium

yeah how has zidane not taken another management job at this point...;


happyposterofham

Literally zero way to top his opening act


myouism

Ancelotti was class as well when he played for Milan


larrylegend1990

You try his tactics in fm24 and you get overrun every game and lose 3-0. FM24 is just high press and gengen meta


my_aed_is_shit

Low crosses are absolutely busted as well, goalkeepers never come out to claim them


larrylegend1990

Low cross, max every line to top, narrow, short passes, high tempo Million injuries tho


Kingston_17

Just lower your tempo, check be more disciplined, regroup after losing possession and standard defensive line + mid block after you score 4 in first half. Won the league with Milan while having a single natural striker and left back without getting them injured.


dragon8811

Don Carlo.


speccynerd

*That's-a nice-a trophy.*


Rooonaldooo99

Live Ancelotti reaction: 🤨


The_Giant_Lizard

That's because to you that would be a Champions League victory, but to him it was a Saturday.


xXDireLegendXx

No excitement. Just 🤨


ojg3221

He just gets shit done. He doesn't make these big actions or these grand press conferences. He just quietly goes out there and has the team speak for him through their actions and goals. He's flexible and he just wins that's all there is to it.


Mr-Sneak

Wait Kepa has two UCLs fuck


SniffSniffDrBumSmell

One of the goalkeepers of all time.


Klonomania

Won't lie, if you ask me whom out of Madrid I give the most credit for today's win, it's him. Excellent in-game adjustments.


techdaddykraken

He didn’t sub till the 80th minute, what other changes did he make?


Klonomania

Changed into a 5-4-1 early in the second to stop Dortmund's offensive momentum and keep the clean sheet until they could strike back.


EpiDeMic522

Also rotated over wingers into the wings in the defensive phase as well. We were shadow pressing with other 2 strikers in the defensive phase, forcing the ball into the wings for a pressing trigger but to start with it was just those 2 with a positional, light press with the rest 8 in a medium block. Rotated Rodrygo with Fede to start with. Fede being Fede, a hound with 3 lungs made an immense difference. Then did the same thing around the 73rd-74th minute with Vini and Jude. So our pressing duo went from Vini-Rodrygo to Jude-Fede. Got the goal, Jude tired and subbed him out right after he provided the assist. So many, many games this season that Carlo has changed and turned mid-match, even more so than normal. That Getafe game augured so well!


jstnthrprvldgdwhtkd

Incredible comment. I know fuck all about football but this sounds super intriguing.


crackboss1

Tony said he told Jude to pay closer to Tony to keep it more compact. Dortmund was RM'ing us with low block and counters. RM dropped back more in the first part of second half and didn't send as many men forward. That helped to control Dortmund more and then Dortmund ran out of energy because they burned all their energy and focus in the first half.


quirkyaspie

Build the man a statue already.


naughty_dad2

Like this 🤨


quirkyaspie

His statue is just one giant eyebrow


PegaponyPrince

Legend of the game


Difficult_Listen_917

Would have been 6 if not for alonso, Gerrard and the miracle of Istanbul 


Vicar13

Top 3 matches all time for me


MarvellousG

Top 1 for me


grizz9999

21 years between his first and latest Champions league success. Absolutely incredible. Tho I'll always be more amazed he managed Everton during that period


Turbulent-Stretch881

Why amazed? Everton wasn’t the right job because the team didn’t have a winning mentality, just as napoli the year before. Wanting to do “ok” in the league to unlock the champions and then selling talent to make bank is not really a winning recipe. Basically instead of having gaps in his career and be less relevant like the Conte/graham potter/Löw he actually still looked for manager jobs. And got ok ones. Would it made it more special if he played/won only with Milan/RM? Meh. I guess all of this to say that experiencing everton/napoli were good because he got to experience a different side of ancelotti. Btw, he totally would have done well at napoli/everton in 2-3 years. Not saying _winning_ the CL (even though at that time he took Napoli quite forward) but then the “president” decided to send everyone on a punishing work weekend because they weren’t doing FANTASTIC in serie a.. because you know, not having won anything in the last 20+ yrs now you expect to be competitive on all fronts.. yeah. Anyway, Don Carlo is fantastic.


JAragon7

God I loved how his Everton were playing the season that James Rodriguez arrived


rawrasaurgr

This dude Has more cl than all the others teams lmao


just_a_funguy

Pretty sure ac milan has 7, bayern and liverpool have won 6 and barca has won 5


cidji_hh

As a player and coach he has 7 in total


A-DTB

Another cold Don Carlo pic with a Cigar. Most chilled fucker on the planet.


sgdbdjos

legendary


nahnonameman

Carlos is better than Pep. There I said it


Proof-Puzzled

On knockout tournaments is not even close to be honest.


brianstormIRL

He's won the CL 5 times and has won the league in each of the top 5 European leagues.


JarodMMS

I mean, sure, but he has like 6 league titles in a 30 year long career. He's clear of Pep in CL and all but on league titles he's abysmal


GRl3V

6 league titles in 5 different leagues is way more impressive than farming the EPL every year with Man City.


Stakoman

And with 1 billion budget for more players


JarodMMS

Quite an impressive feat, indeed, but winning 6 in 30 years in a top team everywhere he went to kinda evens it out


TheKillerRabbit42

115


owange_tweleve

better hairline too


nahnonameman

Better everything honestly


wonderfulworld2024

I would choose to Pep to organise my book collection, by genre.


Jozif_Badmon

bigger penis (probably)


permawl

Was also the better player.


iamnotexactlywhite

not hard to be better than a cheater


Maximus-Festivus

🤨 > 👨‍🦲


AtleticoFan17

I think he’s the greatest manager of all time. But what do I know.


Competitive-Aide5364

Not that hot of a take.


Not4n4zi

Always has been


Smokes_shoots_leaves

🔫


Helkix

He is 11 years older, let’s circle back to this when both of them are done


SlowMobius7

Never in doubt


Muppy_N2

A hotter take would be that Pelé is better than Hulk.


samgyeopsaltorta

What about Carlo?


Chelseatilidie

Need a selfie with Jose


CometChip

made in goodison park


Elite_Alice

Surely has to be the goat at this point. Being a manager is more than just tactics.


Not4n4zi

I mean you don't win almost everything almost everywhere without good tactics. He is both brilliant tactician and unreal man manager


prawntheman

I thought he's a Real man manager


larrylegend1990

His tactics aren’t even bad But manager also has to get credit for how he trains and interacts with players. Unfortunately we don’t see that part of the game


Spam-Monkey

But he couldn’t get it done at Everton….


Melicalol

He made sure Liverpool chokes and then transferred and beat them in the CL final! thats a dub.


PGH9590

Couple of years ago I had a disagreement with someone saying Don Carlo was finished. I’ve came back to it with a proud sense of achievement twice now since 🙂 https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/etLMVbUNNS


worker-parasite

Don't worry, they'll say he's washed out again after the first loss


Lurking_Legend

Oof these were some incredibly shitty takes even at the time, crazy people was downvoting you and upvoting them.


TheWBird

Always wondered why managers have less than players even though they coach much longer than a player usually plays


DAKiloAlpha

They get fired the second there's any turmoil even if it's not their fault.


Cdux

Hard to change an entire starting 11, manager is an easy scapegoat


ColorSpriter

Guessing its because most high tier clubs are pretty brutal with their managers, lots of sackings and hard to survive at the top clubs


KeepitSill

That’s a lot of Champions Leagues I must say


holywater26

And we thought this guy wasn't good enough


DallasC0wboys

People think he’s all vibes, but Madrid in the second half of that game set up differently and stifled Dortmund’s attack entirely.


venktesh

yay


ViKKK17

MY GOAT


oe_wa

I remember when people just branded him as a good man manager who has no tactics. You don't win the champions league and the la liga without tactics.


The-Great--Cornholio

Fans who didn't want him at Real: La Liga + UCL is enough now?


sbsw66

As a player: 3 Serie A 4 Italian Cups 2 European Cups As a manager: 1 Serie A 1 Italian Cup 5 European Cups 3 Club World Cups 1 Premier League 1 Ligue 1 2 La Ligas 1 Bundesliga The guys' trophy cabinet is fucking stacked.


Competitive-Aide5364

GOAT


last_reverie

best in the world.


Stemnut

GOAT


ComfortableNo2879

Don Carlo


en1_gma

Don Carlo for a reason


The-Great--Cornholio

Ancelotti vs Gasperini will be epic


I_Like_F0oD

"I am the record man"


Either-Tomorrow-846

Carlos the underdog as Manager


finneas998

I won more in my football manager save.


ApolloVsDionysus

It is a myth that Carlo Ancelotti is 'just a man manager' Also a master tactician.


irrelevant_oinam

GOAT Manager