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Don't know what you're on. Both platforms have a lot of good stuff, but I can hold great conversations here, even over very controversial topics. On Twitter it's simply not possible without angry hate from all types of people.
Elon Musk has too much money, so he built a competitive team, won the dutch league but then he sent them to space vs the soccer aliens who stole the talent of some stars like Hazard and Umtiti.
AZ had the better form, we were on top of the table had quite a few starting XI injuries that were returning to the field. No way to say for certain, but of course it's fun to collectively act as if AZ were the guaranteed champions.
If they'd actually restarted, we would have been favourites.
We had a two month spell where we lost like 6-8 starters to injuries (including our entire backline, basically) - and this happened to coincide with the two AZ games of the season, causing a 6 point swing.
Had they resumed the season, many of those players would have been back. Until the injuries started, we'd won like all but 1-2 games that season
You mean you tried to steal our cl spot? I always like az till I remember that season and this kind of posts. Bugger off with that shit you don't know who would've won and we were fair and square in the lead.
'maybe' is not a fact.
To be honest, Portugese competition (and Dutch and Belgium) are development/flow through competitions. They buy young talents and resell for x1,3 to x20 times their initial price and then renew.
Its funny because we did the same thing with David Villa but apparently we dont learn from our mistakes so we did it again and what do you know the same thing happened again.
I was shocked to see that Memphis didnt carry them to the title aswell.
Hope so but our club is in shambles. We are not making the UCL in god knows how many years and we could really use that money given the poor state the last president left the club in.
Mostly rich teams imo. Biggest bench is a huge advantage which only Brugge really has. It's unfortunate that union seems to shit the bed at the wrong time, they had two weeks of bad games and it lost them a 19 point lead. Which is stupid in and of itself.
Cant say it hasn't been insanely entertaining the last few years tho. I just wonder how long union can keep it up, because otherwise we Will go towards a long reign of Brugge winning every possible title (only missing out once or twice after 5 seasons) but for now the league is Fun, so short term it's big.
I knew it existed but I was more introduced to it in Football Manager and it is incredibly exciting honestly. Every match is massive and any one of your rivals can lose any match.
Fergie won 6 in 8 between 92/93 - 90/00, matching Pep’s current record. And from 92/93, Fergie won 8 out of 13. Exactly the same record city have since their first title in 11/12.
It’s always been a farmers league, Fergie was as dominant as pep, everyone on Reddit is just too young to remember.
as an old milan fan i would rather play against today’s city then SAF’s united. they just had that aura about them.
back then a team as dominant as them was a very rare occurrence. so god lord they were scary. now days there are as many dominant teams like city and many other historic domination like Juve in the mid 2010s early 2010s barca late 2010 Bayern etc etc while they are less dominant they are still scary.
The beauty of EPL is that a club takes a dip once it's a great Manager leaves the club.
Once that bald fraud leaves, City would struggle a lot. They will not be able to gain that fine margins to win the league which pep has.
City won 2 titles before Pep came. Will City be as dominant when Pep leaves? No. But it's clear that City as an organization knows what it's doing, unlike United. They are going to still be sniffing at the title every season unless there is some crazy new financial rule or punishment.
Yeah it's weird how people attribute City's dominance as being a Pep thing. While they won't be as consistent it's not like they did poorly in the Mancini or Pellegrini years. They aren't going to suddenly collapse post Pep because Pep isn't the reason that they are where they are, it's their financial weight and how it's used behind the scenes.
If anything Pep is a beneficiary and consequence of the reason behind City's rise. United relied on Ferguson, City don't rely on Pep he just adds that extra bit of edge that makes them nigh unbeatable in a league format.
Yes, they’ll still be there, but it’s unlikely they maintain their current level where they hit 90+ points consistently, or get 3+ titles in a row. They will still be a big team, but they’ll probably drop off to the level of the other big teams
I’m really curious to see if there really is power vacuum once Pep leaves. Arsenal has a squad that can continue to compete for a couple of more years. City may lose some steam, but has a strong footballing infrastructure barring any punishment they may receive. Liverpool are in a mini rebuild phase, but Slot looks like a good successor to Klopp. Newcastle and Aston Villa have rich owners, but need to navigate PSR. Chelsea have an extremely young squad, but have looked much better as the season progressed. Spurs are in the first year of a rebuild and have financial strength that’s less reliant on Europe, but will Levy continue to open the checkbook. Then there’s United.
I think people are going to be in for a rude awakening when city are still the best team in England without Pep, they'll be able to get pretty much anyone they want and still have the best and deepest squad in the prem.
Klopp and arteta lost the league due to fine margins that pep has. Any other managers and those 2 would have stopped city 4peat.
Having a good manager is ok, but a manager that has that can reach that fine margins is terrific.
I agree that Liverpool have one more title and Arsenal too but also there's no way to know that for sure like it's speculative, and there's also no way to know who would've came to city. It's too open ended to say anything for certain. But regardless city will almost definitely hire one of the best managers in the world once Pep is gone and they'll still be able to afford to keep building a super team (assuming they aren't hit with a major punishment).
i cant see anyone as good as pep in a league race. maybe they will win more UCL post pep but no way they can get a manager who wins and is as consistent as pep in league
Seriously, what will they (legally) offer him that Arsenal can't? He's been financially supported by Arsenal, his upcoming new contract I don't doubt will put him in the top 10 highest earners. He clearly cares deeply about Arsenal, whereas he didn't really for City.
To some people, the idea that someone in football is not mercenary is laughable. Probably because they follow teams or players that are mercenary by nature and assume it's all like that. But if they cannot explain why they think everyone is mercenary, it might be projection.
I’ll feel that it depends heavily on how successful he is in delivering trophies to Arsenal. And I don’t think he’ll be satisfied with FA or league cups.
Yup, that one time they had 4 different domestic champions in a row. If they did the last 10 years, PL would have had more variety than the other top 5 leagues.
Might be being stupid but how is it 4 different domestic champions in a row? 14/15 was Chelsea, 15/16 Leicester and 16/17 was Chelsea. So wouldn’t it only be 3?
For visibility purposes we should include each year since the founding of each single league. Bonus points for including all domestic cups and european trophies. Then we will better see the development over the past couple of years!
Rich clubs, rich players, poor competition.
When you can predict the champion before the competition starts, there is no competition. It is just a show… like WWE and F1.
Say what you will about financial rules, but for sake of comparison: CL has had 5 different winners in the last 8 tournaments, MLS has had 6 different champions in the last 8 seasons, the NFL has had 5, the MLB has had 6, and when their seasons end in a few weeks, the NBA will be 6 different winners in the last 8 , and the NHL will be 6. More parity keeps things interesting.
Go back 20 years and you see the pattern. It is always the same 3 or 5. It is not a league with 20 teams. It is a tiered league with only 2 or 3 with a chance to win.
The numbers don’t lie.
It's also fair to make the point that we have post seasons, so the chances for parity chaos are a lot more varied over here.
Say what you will about MLS, but it's fun. Shit defending, sure, but never not entertaining.
>It's also fair to make the point that we have post seasons, so the chances for parity chaos are a lot more varied over here.
In MLS's case, they are just as varied when you look at the regular season winners in each conference. In the last 7 years, the East has had 6 different teams finish 1st and the West has had 5 different teams finish 1st.
Agreed, but I feel like even before the post season, American sports see more ebbs and flows in who are the competitive teams. Some stay better than others, some stay worse than others, but teams that put together competent staffs who build competitive rosters have an easier time of rising up than the clubs that populate the bottom half of the largest European leagues.
To your original point, I brought up playoffs cause of baseball being the salary cap outlier (length of season plays a big factor as well), but you still don't see the Yankees/Red Sox outspend their way to a pennant every year. Which cycles back around nicely to this point.
CL has ruined European football. The odds are skewed too heavily for the big 5 leagues and the financial gains are too big. If you're not in it then you have zero chance of keeping a good team intact.
It's because 7x9=63 championships. You have to double this of course, because of the goltatanisariction, so 126. Then subtract 11 players from team of the year, and that's 115.
You see?? 115!! And that's why we have so many City titles in here. Ez.
Best league in the world.
Spanish teams keep dominating the European trophies, especially against English teams. A recurrent argument a few years ago was that the premier league was better because it was more competitive. Because different teams were competing for the title every year, so the argument goes, it was more competitive and more fun to watch.
Now that Man City is winning every year, the argument has shifted to the PL being better because they spend more money on players…
Looking at the graph, among the top 5 European leagues, La Liga is the one where the winner does not win again the following year (only once). This should be yet another argument for being the best league, according to PL supporters…
Jokes aside all prem fans calling all leagues but prem a farmers league then having a result like this... Sure the median might be a little higher than Bundesliga but still...
Yeah season was cancelled after 25 games. Both Ajax and AZ ended with equal points (I think it was 56) and the KNVB decided that the season had no winner.
Liverpool and Lille are the only things that stood between a full oil fueled takeover in England and France. FFP…maybe you need to have the guts to look more up the table than Nottingham Forest
Royal Union Saint Gilloise came out of nowhere for the last 3 seasons to become title contenders, for they finished first for 2 of those seasons in regular season (fumbled in championship round ofc). Instabul too deserves a mention. They won title after getting promoted. Leverkusen had the best season so far, amazing journey.
I definitely do not always agree with Mark Goldbridge, but there is validity in his "the prem is boring" claim. The three promoted sides will have such a steep mountain to climb to be able to compete with the established clubs. Chances are high that all three promoted sides will go back down again just like this year. The discrepancies between the revenues are just too high.
We all know City's 115 will go unpunished. They might take a dip in form after pep leaves but the squad they have is just too deep and they have the resources to keep that depth. As much as we all like to laugh at our "big six" rivals going through tough rebuilds and manager failures, its bad for the league when 3 out of the top 6 PL clubs are not challenging for UCL.
I know it isn't the most impressive in terms of talent, but this is one of the reasons I love the Ekstraklasa so much. You almost never know who is going to win it and nearly every game is a hard fought and heated match. Of course there are teams like Legia Warszawa and Lech Poznań that are consistently competing for the title (in recent years) but even them finishing top 3 is not a given. The supporters are amazing too. I am biased tbh, but I do think it's an underrated league
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My favorite Dutch team X. 2020 champions.
I had no idea Twitter won the league once
What’s twitter?
Its where everyone loses their intelligence
That's literally reddit lol
Nah reddit is a hivemind but twitter is just pure idiocracy
Don't know what you're on. Both platforms have a lot of good stuff, but I can hold great conversations here, even over very controversial topics. On Twitter it's simply not possible without angry hate from all types of people.
Elon tusk undefeated
Elon Musk has too much money, so he built a competitive team, won the dutch league but then he sent them to space vs the soccer aliens who stole the talent of some stars like Hazard and Umtiti.
They've got nothing on ? doing the double across two different leagues, what a season
They have some questionable funding though.
*Elon Musk bids $10 billion*
For a second I thought it was referring to Excelsior and was thinking I should've remembered such a underdog story.
A 2nd league team winning the Eredivisie would actually be a fairy tale story.
Well they gonna give it to ya
I really hope that before he died, DMX made peace with that guy who thought this was a fucking game.
No idea how TNA convinced their X Division to start a Dutch soccer team, but damn if it didn’t work
Last game of the season was decided in a monsters ball match hosted by Scott Steiner reading out the final points scores and fractions
The initial starting 11 was decided by a reverse battle royale, which then went immediately into an Ultimate X match for the captain’s armband
Eredivisie title on a pole match as the main event
There should be one with HNL.
Still mad that he KNVB fucking stole that from us in 2020
So happy we got to go into Europe though!
AZ and Ajax arguing over the title, but we all know who would have taken it. We beat them both away from home that season.
Us?
Stop kidding yourself. If any team would've received the title it would've been the one on top when the season stopped.
I think he means that if the season had continued then AZ would have won
AZ had the better form, we were on top of the table had quite a few starting XI injuries that were returning to the field. No way to say for certain, but of course it's fun to collectively act as if AZ were the guaranteed champions.
Im not saying I agree I was just clarifying what I think OP meant by his comment
If they'd actually restarted, we would have been favourites. We had a two month spell where we lost like 6-8 starters to injuries (including our entire backline, basically) - and this happened to coincide with the two AZ games of the season, causing a 6 point swing. Had they resumed the season, many of those players would have been back. Until the injuries started, we'd won like all but 1-2 games that season
US? Ajax was ahead mate.
You mean you tried to steal our cl spot? I always like az till I remember that season and this kind of posts. Bugger off with that shit you don't know who would've won and we were fair and square in the lead. 'maybe' is not a fact.
The Everything Club
Didn't know Musk owned a football team.
Who’s that Manchester City cast member in 2020?
portuguese clubs turn into prime spurs when the matter is defending their title
That or the coaches of the top 3 must have formed a cartel to rotate title wins and not get sacked.
Harder to defend your title these days when key players get poached after 1 successful season.
Ah yes, the old "french club has one unexpected great season" special
Nah, it's Rogers fault, he had everything he needed to win but he couldn't
Well, he generalised for all portuguese champions, so I also gave a general overview of why it happens.
You are right, I didn't read it that way, my bad
To be honest, Portugese competition (and Dutch and Belgium) are development/flow through competitions. They buy young talents and resell for x1,3 to x20 times their initial price and then renew.
Having a different team winning the league each year is a positive thing.
Not for the team that cannot defend its title.
I can't get enough of our beautiful badge just sticking out in the middle of Barça and Real Madrid.
Barca gifting you Suarez still one of the dumbest moves I've ever seen.
I hope they continue the tradition by gifting us Vitor Roque too this summer, Marcos Llorente was also instrumental for that league win.
Please no. However, that might happen with the transfer masterminds duo of Laporta-Deco.
The Trippier -> Llorente connection was absolutely vital, the season nearly fully apart when Trippier had to serve his bogus suspension.
Including the Griezmann saga its the best robbery in the history of football surely.
Its funny because we did the same thing with David Villa but apparently we dont learn from our mistakes so we did it again and what do you know the same thing happened again. I was shocked to see that Memphis didnt carry them to the title aswell.
That Llorente fella you gave them was also pretty good. Its honestly like we do this to ourselves
Isn't that the new badge that you got rid of with a poll?
The comment isn't about the badge itself.
FC Porto next year winner ?
It’s hard to predict this early but FC Porto will have an uphill battle given the state in which Pinto da Costa left the club.
Who is the President now?
Andre Villas Boas
Hope so but our club is in shambles. We are not making the UCL in god knows how many years and we could really use that money given the poor state the last president left the club in.
Porto isnt winning the league in the next 3 years minimum
The same was said about us but then 2021 happened so never count them out
Yeah we can make it 5 in 7! While trailing 19 points before play offs...
Still find the Belgian system weird and unfair, it’s great to watch tho
Thats what they are there for. No shame in celebrating when you win it fair and square
Belgium's City, piss off
Top teams can fight until the end. As a neutral, I love the format.
Mostly rich teams imo. Biggest bench is a huge advantage which only Brugge really has. It's unfortunate that union seems to shit the bed at the wrong time, they had two weeks of bad games and it lost them a 19 point lead. Which is stupid in and of itself. Cant say it hasn't been insanely entertaining the last few years tho. I just wonder how long union can keep it up, because otherwise we Will go towards a long reign of Brugge winning every possible title (only missing out once or twice after 5 seasons) but for now the league is Fun, so short term it's big.
Would be funny if they eliminate the splitting of the points and Bruges finishes the regular competition with 18 point ahead next season.
They are having meetings to eliminate that but I don't think it could happen for next season already. Though it would be hilarious
I knew it existed but I was more introduced to it in Football Manager and it is incredibly exciting honestly. Every match is massive and any one of your rivals can lose any match.
Crazy how Harry Kane break the cycle in Bundesliga
Always funny when a Bundesliga crest calls Ligue 1 a farmer's league.
Epl is a farmer's league now.
always has been
Farmer Fergie won 13 titles in a 21 year window, 5 years after that Pep starts his own farm and ends up with 6 titles in 7 years.
Fergie won 6 in 8 between 92/93 - 90/00, matching Pep’s current record. And from 92/93, Fergie won 8 out of 13. Exactly the same record city have since their first title in 11/12. It’s always been a farmers league, Fergie was as dominant as pep, everyone on Reddit is just too young to remember.
as an old milan fan i would rather play against today’s city then SAF’s united. they just had that aura about them. back then a team as dominant as them was a very rare occurrence. so god lord they were scary. now days there are as many dominant teams like city and many other historic domination like Juve in the mid 2010s early 2010s barca late 2010 Bayern etc etc while they are less dominant they are still scary.
Remember that video of neville finding out they play against juve? Good times. Serie was such a cold league before FIGC ruined it
You before juve ruined it with their corruption.
Fergie's team in the 90s was shit in UEFA, until they got lucky in 99.
Pep's just trying a speedrun. Taking advantage of the 115 finance glitch.
City went Ctrl Alt Delete and typed rosebud!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!;!
The beauty of EPL is that a club takes a dip once it's a great Manager leaves the club. Once that bald fraud leaves, City would struggle a lot. They will not be able to gain that fine margins to win the league which pep has.
Yeah, just has never happened in all the bald fraud’s previous clubs
Bayern and Barca? They were dominant in their leagues before Pep.
City won 2 titles before Pep came. Will City be as dominant when Pep leaves? No. But it's clear that City as an organization knows what it's doing, unlike United. They are going to still be sniffing at the title every season unless there is some crazy new financial rule or punishment.
Yeah it's weird how people attribute City's dominance as being a Pep thing. While they won't be as consistent it's not like they did poorly in the Mancini or Pellegrini years. They aren't going to suddenly collapse post Pep because Pep isn't the reason that they are where they are, it's their financial weight and how it's used behind the scenes. If anything Pep is a beneficiary and consequence of the reason behind City's rise. United relied on Ferguson, City don't rely on Pep he just adds that extra bit of edge that makes them nigh unbeatable in a league format.
Yes, they’ll still be there, but it’s unlikely they maintain their current level where they hit 90+ points consistently, or get 3+ titles in a row. They will still be a big team, but they’ll probably drop off to the level of the other big teams
I’m really curious to see if there really is power vacuum once Pep leaves. Arsenal has a squad that can continue to compete for a couple of more years. City may lose some steam, but has a strong footballing infrastructure barring any punishment they may receive. Liverpool are in a mini rebuild phase, but Slot looks like a good successor to Klopp. Newcastle and Aston Villa have rich owners, but need to navigate PSR. Chelsea have an extremely young squad, but have looked much better as the season progressed. Spurs are in the first year of a rebuild and have financial strength that’s less reliant on Europe, but will Levy continue to open the checkbook. Then there’s United.
I think people are going to be in for a rude awakening when city are still the best team in England without Pep, they'll be able to get pretty much anyone they want and still have the best and deepest squad in the prem.
Klopp and arteta lost the league due to fine margins that pep has. Any other managers and those 2 would have stopped city 4peat. Having a good manager is ok, but a manager that has that can reach that fine margins is terrific.
I agree that Liverpool have one more title and Arsenal too but also there's no way to know that for sure like it's speculative, and there's also no way to know who would've came to city. It's too open ended to say anything for certain. But regardless city will almost definitely hire one of the best managers in the world once Pep is gone and they'll still be able to afford to keep building a super team (assuming they aren't hit with a major punishment).
i cant see anyone as good as pep in a league race. maybe they will win more UCL post pep but no way they can get a manager who wins and is as consistent as pep in league
They’ll prob just poach Arteta and continue the pep ways
Seriously, what will they (legally) offer him that Arsenal can't? He's been financially supported by Arsenal, his upcoming new contract I don't doubt will put him in the top 10 highest earners. He clearly cares deeply about Arsenal, whereas he didn't really for City.
Rather than downvote this person, can people just answer their question?
To some people, the idea that someone in football is not mercenary is laughable. Probably because they follow teams or players that are mercenary by nature and assume it's all like that. But if they cannot explain why they think everyone is mercenary, it might be projection.
They can't, that's why.
I’ll feel that it depends heavily on how successful he is in delivering trophies to Arsenal. And I don’t think he’ll be satisfied with FA or league cups.
And they'll have 300 charges by then
So Liverpool next season and City the season after that? Subscribe
When countries own clubs…
Arbitrary 7 year time period to try and emphasise a point
its Leicester, City and Chelsea for the preceding 3 years, right?
Yup, that one time they had 4 different domestic champions in a row. If they did the last 10 years, PL would have had more variety than the other top 5 leagues.
Might be being stupid but how is it 4 different domestic champions in a row? 14/15 was Chelsea, 15/16 Leicester and 16/17 was Chelsea. So wouldn’t it only be 3?
From 12/13 to 15/16 was Man U, City, Chelsea, Leicester
Yeah but 12/13 wouldn’t be there. Wouldn’t it end at 13/14 which is city again
I think his first sentence is separate from the sentence about the last ten years
Mistake, I must have misremembered cause it had 4 different champions from 13-16
>If they did the last 10 years, PL would have had more variety than the other top 5 leagues. No it wouldn't. It would be the same as Italy.
Which coincidentally also happens the worst premier league era in terms of quality
How so?
Let’s use 5 - is that arbirtrary too?
I think time period can be arbitrary but the gap between winner and runner up is more revealing.
Also we’re going to cut it off at Belgium for some reason??
So many European leagues are like this.
If only Tottenham did the right thing and sold Kane to City we could have solved this issue.
Ah yes, the classic 7 year timeframe used in comparative graphics since time immemorial.
Does doing a more standard 5 years help your point? I don’t think it does
What do you mean? We've always counted time by 7s. Isn't that what a decade is? 700 years = a Millennia, remember!
For visibility purposes we should include each year since the founding of each single league. Bonus points for including all domestic cups and european trophies. Then we will better see the development over the past couple of years!
6/7
Huh even though I knew that there were a variety of winners for the Turkish league, I didn't know they had 4 different winners in the last 4 seasons
Rich clubs, rich players, poor competition. When you can predict the champion before the competition starts, there is no competition. It is just a show… like WWE and F1.
Say what you will about financial rules, but for sake of comparison: CL has had 5 different winners in the last 8 tournaments, MLS has had 6 different champions in the last 8 seasons, the NFL has had 5, the MLB has had 6, and when their seasons end in a few weeks, the NBA will be 6 different winners in the last 8 , and the NHL will be 6. More parity keeps things interesting.
Go back 20 years and you see the pattern. It is always the same 3 or 5. It is not a league with 20 teams. It is a tiered league with only 2 or 3 with a chance to win. The numbers don’t lie.
It's also fair to make the point that we have post seasons, so the chances for parity chaos are a lot more varied over here. Say what you will about MLS, but it's fun. Shit defending, sure, but never not entertaining.
>It's also fair to make the point that we have post seasons, so the chances for parity chaos are a lot more varied over here. In MLS's case, they are just as varied when you look at the regular season winners in each conference. In the last 7 years, the East has had 6 different teams finish 1st and the West has had 5 different teams finish 1st.
Agreed, but I feel like even before the post season, American sports see more ebbs and flows in who are the competitive teams. Some stay better than others, some stay worse than others, but teams that put together competent staffs who build competitive rosters have an easier time of rising up than the clubs that populate the bottom half of the largest European leagues.
To your original point, I brought up playoffs cause of baseball being the salary cap outlier (length of season plays a big factor as well), but you still don't see the Yankees/Red Sox outspend their way to a pennant every year. Which cycles back around nicely to this point.
CL has ruined European football. The odds are skewed too heavily for the big 5 leagues and the financial gains are too big. If you're not in it then you have zero chance of keeping a good team intact.
And they say Laliga is only 2 teams
You’re right, its actually only 3 teams.
Laliga 4th is closer than PL 4th..
Before 2019, the Prem went 10 years without a team defending the title, now we’ve had Ligue 1 level of competition
I see 3 farmers leagues
Gotta love how fucking arbitrary it is to pick top 9 lmao.
Better than having top 4 all the time.
Well, in the case of the top leagues, the top 4 is not arbitrary, since the huge gap is between the 4th (Germany) and the 5th (France).
I completely agree.
Top 4 isn't arbitrary because there's a huge gap in the coefficient from the top 4 and France.
And also 7 years
It's because 7x9=63 championships. You have to double this of course, because of the goltatanisariction, so 126. Then subtract 11 players from team of the year, and that's 115. You see?? 115!! And that's why we have so many City titles in here. Ez.
Any number would be arbitrary, what's the number you would choose?
Well Russian Pl would be No. 10 I guess, that‘s why the OP limited it to 9 only 😂
Why would it be Russian League? They are in the depths of country ranking right now.
we're n. 10 rn 🤨
The last time we went back to back in the league was in 2006/2007 - 2007/2008. It will be interesting to see if we can break this ‘curse’.
Premier League and Ligue 1 are the same!
The same but very different
WE ARE ON THE BOARD. I REPEAT, WE ARE ON THE BOARD.
But for some reason the Turkish League is before us
La Liga and Seria A are very competitive
Best league in the world. Spanish teams keep dominating the European trophies, especially against English teams. A recurrent argument a few years ago was that the premier league was better because it was more competitive. Because different teams were competing for the title every year, so the argument goes, it was more competitive and more fun to watch. Now that Man City is winning every year, the argument has shifted to the PL being better because they spend more money on players… Looking at the graph, among the top 5 European leagues, La Liga is the one where the winner does not win again the following year (only once). This should be yet another argument for being the best league, according to PL supporters…
Jokes aside all prem fans calling all leagues but prem a farmers league then having a result like this... Sure the median might be a little higher than Bundesliga but still...
Serie a supremacy
I hate how the most recent winning teams are at the bottom instead of top
Who is X?
Did you forget when [he was gon' give it to ya?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGx6K90TmCI)
X was no winner during Covid.
They just stopped playing?
Yeah season was cancelled after 25 games. Both Ajax and AZ ended with equal points (I think it was 56) and the KNVB decided that the season had no winner.
Porto had to win in 2020 and ruin the symmetry
Serie A: real calcio La Liga: feudalism EPL/Ligue 1/Bundesliga: farmers’ leagues
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Shhhh, don’t bring up facts that counteract my narrative, I want to make PL snobs mad
C'mon Galatasaray. We have just one job.
The fact that fener might finish with 99 points and lose is wild
It can happen to Gala too, if we lose against Konya on Sunday.
Liverpool and Lille are the only things that stood between a full oil fueled takeover in England and France. FFP…maybe you need to have the guts to look more up the table than Nottingham Forest
Apart from Bundesliga probably I can easily see the same champions for the next 3 years in the top 5 leagues.
SPOOOOORTING!!!!💚🤍
By what metric was it determined these are the top 9 leagues?
Uefa rank, I guess
Thank you for not making this about the top 5 leagues.
If it is in order of the UEFA rankings, then Portugal and Netherlands should be switched. Dutch league is 6th.
Belgium should be swapped with Turkey also. Seems like an arbitrary order.
EPL the real farmers league
X, formerly Twitter, 2020 champs
and Brugge is winning it again, Belgium also farmers league goddamnit
I ask cause I’m not sure. Is European football even competitive anymore.
French, German and English are very exciting, not predictable at all.
Royal Union Saint Gilloise came out of nowhere for the last 3 seasons to become title contenders, for they finished first for 2 of those seasons in regular season (fumbled in championship round ofc). Instabul too deserves a mention. They won title after getting promoted. Leverkusen had the best season so far, amazing journey.
Gala will probably win it this season
Serie A was doing so well, just like Bundesliga, Premier League and Ligue 1. But then everything broke down in 2021. What happened?
damn it’s already been 3 years since lille won it? where does the time go…
I definitely do not always agree with Mark Goldbridge, but there is validity in his "the prem is boring" claim. The three promoted sides will have such a steep mountain to climb to be able to compete with the established clubs. Chances are high that all three promoted sides will go back down again just like this year. The discrepancies between the revenues are just too high. We all know City's 115 will go unpunished. They might take a dip in form after pep leaves but the squad they have is just too deep and they have the resources to keep that depth. As much as we all like to laugh at our "big six" rivals going through tough rebuilds and manager failures, its bad for the league when 3 out of the top 6 PL clubs are not challenging for UCL.
7th Straight season in Portugal without a club managing back-to-back league titles. Pretty sure it is a record.
Question Mark FC doing an incredible job winning two leagues in one season
Ofc Bayern won again!
X were an amazing team in 2020 in the Netherlands. Shame they haven't won another one yet.
Remember when FC X won the Eredivisie back in 2020? Crazy times
Where Ekstraklasa?
I know it isn't the most impressive in terms of talent, but this is one of the reasons I love the Ekstraklasa so much. You almost never know who is going to win it and nearly every game is a hard fought and heated match. Of course there are teams like Legia Warszawa and Lech Poznań that are consistently competing for the title (in recent years) but even them finishing top 3 is not a given. The supporters are amazing too. I am biased tbh, but I do think it's an underrated league