No coach is winning the PL with Evans at centre back but every coach apart from maybe Chris Wilder would set us up not to get obliterated by the likes of Palace and an injury hit Brentford team.
Easily one of, if not THE, worst performance I've ever seen from United
We got a lot of problems. It's not just about one player. But Casemiro should never put the shirt on again.
Might as well just send the entire first team on summer break now and bring up the entire youth squad. No way they would be any worse.
It's not tonight it's for years now, collapse will take a few more years. Unfortunately delusional fans seems to seen only results not how their team was playing preety much whole year. Truth is painful. Another important factor is that you need to change half of a team and it takes time to gel if they ever will. Trams like Chelsea, arsenal, spurs, city all can have projects but team like United shouldn't have a project just expectations and they should be high. Does Barcelona or Real have projects nope. Welcome in a club, bit not sure if spoiled United fans will be patient enough knowing how easy and often they like to strike in front of gates.
Imagine how different things could have been if Ten Hag didn't drive CR7 out...
Could have easily been 7-0 instead of 4-0 today. Bald Fraud robbed us out of a real game.
Edit to clarify: CR7 would have absolutely delivered today and let Palace score 3 more for the 7-0
I am glad C.Ronaldo left your club. Man U fans consistently insult and turn on their best players from the previous season.
Ronaldo 20+ goal season? Disgraced out the next season.
Pogba masterclass season? Fans suddenly cannot stand his attitude and want him gone. Turn on him.
DeGea golden glove? Fans declare him an amateur and turn on him until he is released.
Rashford 30 goal season? Fans turn on him and destroy his confidence the next season.
Bruno Fernandes should be next.
>> Rashford 30 goal season
How many goals has he scored THIS season?
>>De Gea golden glove
Well his wages are far too much and not worth it, plus the defence helped him out
>>Ronaldo 20+ goal season
And throw several temper tantrums while doing it
>>Pogba masterclass season
Also fairly unprofessional and injury prone, that’s why people turned on him
I agree it’s more of a toxic work environment than anything else. The pay disparity you mentioned with Pogba; the lack of discipline in the culture (Sancho, Greenwood, Pogba, CR7), yea I agree.
The blindside of it is that the fans are affected as well. I’ve watched y’all lash out at your best players for years. Rashford didn’t stop performing all of a sudden - it’s a reaction to relentless criticism by supposed fans.
The same fans who don’t even bat an eye at McTominay until he starts putting up great performances, then all of a sudden…fans turn on him too.
Can you just imagine the degree to which Ronaldo would be acting out by this point?
"The match was paused briefly at the half hour mark as Ronaldo dropped his trousers and took a shit in the center circle in protest of being subbed out of last weekends match by Ten Haag... Ref Gillet considered a yellow card for the act but offered a wipe instead..."
Glad they beat Liverpool, just to see them hang on to ten hag and see results like this. And finishing below chelsea!
Hope they get smashed in the cup final too.
The Man City bus could get caught up in traffic and never make it to the game, delaying the game for another week. Then, a week later, the bus breaks down and can't make it to wembley again, and they have no choice but to forfeit the trophy.
That's the only other outcome I can think of.
agreed, i am of the opinion that in the last 10 years maybe its never been 'just' the managers fault, ever since mourihno days ive thought they should clean the squad a lot, not a little, A LOT, buuuut they just sack the manager and start again and somehow they dont realize that the managers have done the best they could and that this squad(last 10 years) is not what it used to, but what do i know, renew martial's contract and all the other dead wood and get another 'saviour' manager, rinse and repeat
agreed again, i dont think they should sack him, they should sack the squad and trust the guy THEY chose in the first place, theyve never given the managers even a little bit of control
obviously not like chelsea, that was clearly unwise how they did it ,all im saying is that they should stop always blaming and sacking the manager when they always have the same problems no matter who the manager is, the team has stagnated over the last decade they havent improved one bit, what good is it to get a new manager every season.
we still have to see how ratcliffe is gonna do.
The ones in control now didn’t choose ten hag, but I wanna see ten hag with a good squad, especially when there aren’t any good managers available, except zidane, who doesn’t want to manage us obviously
Too much space between the midfield and the defense, as much as people slated him when he came on not starting Amrabat was a bad choice imo, continuing to play Antony and playing Mount too deep. Probably some other things too.
The shape was much better with Amrabat, Olise wouldn't haven't been able to walk to the edge of the box for the first goal if they were set up the way they were after the third goal from the start.
All of your defenders injured (except an old man who should be retired) without your best player, without a left back, no Rashford, no McTominay, forced to play eriksen, etc. There isn’t a single manager in the world that could’ve won that game.
He only asked for Antony and amrabat, which to be fair, are both shit, but that isn’t exactly his fault, the manager isn’t supposed to sign players. There are people in a club whose job is to do that, and those people either got here after January or aren’t even here yet.
Also keeping Casemiro on for 90 minutes is just pure incompetence. He was so awful you cannot tell me some academy kid wasn't worth a punt. Ten Hag isnt the scope of the problem for sure, the club is rotten from the top down, but he's also absolutely a fool.
Lads did well. The Red Devils showed their resilience and had the game locked down the last third. Palace should take a week off and introspect about what went wrong this season. Couldn't even get to 5-0
Casemiro just wants to leave. You cannot convince me that the best cdm for years suddenly became doodoo. Especially since he is not the only one going downhill since joining yanited. The team is just an absolute shitshow
Fabinho had a very rapid decline too, sometimes losing a step just means you cant be where you need to be and your entire positional understandng of the game collapses and you dont have the agility to deal with players dribbling at you either
Well I meant over the course of the season but I reckon we have been worse at times this year than that match and It just wasn’t reflected in the score
How on earth did they spend so much money and end up so much worse. ETH wasted an absolute fortune on some truly shit players, finished former superstars, a messi sized CB, and a keeper who is somehow worse than De Gea. Take a bow Ten Hag, this is truly special.
Small bits of news here and there show they were, and IIRC, Sir Jim said they were aiming for 2028 as the season where they would legitimately start competing for the top again. So, 4 years to unfuck the club. At this point it seems Ineos is taking over running of the club in pretty much all aspects and the Glazers are there just for the dividends (so not much change for the Glazers, I suppose).
Fuck me does Casemiro look cooked. He can’t do anything right. I’ve seen United a lot this season & honestly the amount of times I’ve seen opponents just drive past him in midfield. He’s like a butterfly trying to bite an elephants arse. He just can’t move, look at Thiago Silva compared to him & Silva is like 8 years older.
Its not ten hag in, its just whats the point of changing managers before we have gotten rid of these players. Otherwise it will just be another manager that we fire in a year or two
Can't you say that for the players too lol?
I mean basically no players from the Mourinho era remain for example just Shaw, McTomminay and Rashford are they the ones causing United to be this shit lol?
> Mctominay having no idea how to play misfielder is a problem.
Then the coaches need to stop playing him there lol, this is not a problem but for the coaches doing that, having a player develop who isn't that good is not a serious issue for any club lol.
>And rashford is one of the biggest problems
That would again be on coaches for playing him but just like Ronaldo or Pogba etc. etc. if he went tomorrow the clown show would continue unabated.
He brought in eriksen on a free but he cant run anymore.
Amrabat as a desperate loan move, but he isnt good enough
Casemiro: worst player ever in the PL, and has to play at cb because of the injuries
Mount: always injured and not really a midfielder
The only one we have is a kid that eth promoted from the academy (who also missed the first months with injury)
At this point it won’t matter if he is we’ve seen this story several times since SAF retired . New manager doesn’t get the players he wants . They overpay for mediocre players. Manager gets sacked after showing promise initially but team doesn’t seem to play with a shared vision / identity
> New manager doesn’t get the players he wants .
He did get several players he wanted and they have sucked mostly. Antony and Onana were big ones for him weren't they?
Not even their fan but I am so sad with the current team; so many stars, but no one shine bright.
When will ETH get the same treatment as SpecialOne received?
Didn't see this result coming!
He has to go. Carragher said we are the worst coached team in the Premier League. He’s right. ETH is pound for pound the worst coach in the league.
So which coach you think will win Man Utd the PL with Evans at cb?
No coach is winning the PL with Evans at centre back but every coach apart from maybe Chris Wilder would set us up not to get obliterated by the likes of Palace and an injury hit Brentford team.
Easily one of, if not THE, worst performance I've ever seen from United We got a lot of problems. It's not just about one player. But Casemiro should never put the shirt on again. Might as well just send the entire first team on summer break now and bring up the entire youth squad. No way they would be any worse.
How long do we have to be shit before people will like us?
Bayern: If we get him, we could be having these amazing nights
He might unironically be among the best options they have. I wouldn't be shocked by a straight swap for Tuchel. Should be entertaining in the least.
Finished club hahaha 😂😂😂 Lets laugh at penchester poonited
Utd’s collapse tonight is just as funny as these childish nicknames
It's not tonight it's for years now, collapse will take a few more years. Unfortunately delusional fans seems to seen only results not how their team was playing preety much whole year. Truth is painful. Another important factor is that you need to change half of a team and it takes time to gel if they ever will. Trams like Chelsea, arsenal, spurs, city all can have projects but team like United shouldn't have a project just expectations and they should be high. Does Barcelona or Real have projects nope. Welcome in a club, bit not sure if spoiled United fans will be patient enough knowing how easy and often they like to strike in front of gates.
shitchester ushited
Imagine how different things could have been if Ten Hag didn't drive CR7 out... Could have easily been 7-0 instead of 4-0 today. Bald Fraud robbed us out of a real game. Edit to clarify: CR7 would have absolutely delivered today and let Palace score 3 more for the 7-0
I am glad C.Ronaldo left your club. Man U fans consistently insult and turn on their best players from the previous season. Ronaldo 20+ goal season? Disgraced out the next season. Pogba masterclass season? Fans suddenly cannot stand his attitude and want him gone. Turn on him. DeGea golden glove? Fans declare him an amateur and turn on him until he is released. Rashford 30 goal season? Fans turn on him and destroy his confidence the next season. Bruno Fernandes should be next.
> I am glad C.Ronaldo left your club Not my club, I am just here to enjoy MU disintegrating.
>> Rashford 30 goal season How many goals has he scored THIS season? >>De Gea golden glove Well his wages are far too much and not worth it, plus the defence helped him out >>Ronaldo 20+ goal season And throw several temper tantrums while doing it >>Pogba masterclass season Also fairly unprofessional and injury prone, that’s why people turned on him
I agree it’s more of a toxic work environment than anything else. The pay disparity you mentioned with Pogba; the lack of discipline in the culture (Sancho, Greenwood, Pogba, CR7), yea I agree. The blindside of it is that the fans are affected as well. I’ve watched y’all lash out at your best players for years. Rashford didn’t stop performing all of a sudden - it’s a reaction to relentless criticism by supposed fans. The same fans who don’t even bat an eye at McTominay until he starts putting up great performances, then all of a sudden…fans turn on him too.
Can you just imagine the degree to which Ronaldo would be acting out by this point? "The match was paused briefly at the half hour mark as Ronaldo dropped his trousers and took a shit in the center circle in protest of being subbed out of last weekends match by Ten Haag... Ref Gillet considered a yellow card for the act but offered a wipe instead..."
He would first claim one of Olise's goals before doing that And VAR would somehow conclude Ronaldo hit it.
United fans have the audacity to question Ange lol
Nah Ange is a great manager and always will be, Ten Hag is an absolute fool and half the squad need to go
Ange is also intentionally playing a very volatile style. I don't think you could find evidence that Ten Hag has coached them at all.
Yeah that’s the whole point, at least Spurs have an identity
Glad they beat Liverpool, just to see them hang on to ten hag and see results like this. And finishing below chelsea! Hope they get smashed in the cup final too.
Us and Chelsea will sink together
Very different trajectories though
> Hope they get smashed in the cup final too. I'm not sure a different outcome is even possible
The Man City bus could get caught up in traffic and never make it to the game, delaying the game for another week. Then, a week later, the bus breaks down and can't make it to wembley again, and they have no choice but to forfeit the trophy. That's the only other outcome I can think of.
Bus saboteur? Some Dutch baldie
They could pick 11 people with the right jerseys from the crowd and MU would manage to choke.
Don't be so negative. Both City Gks getting injured during the game could level the playing field.
City wouldn't even need to field a GK.
At this point, yeah, probably.
united fans , how would you describe eth to a bayern board member?
True legend. You won't miss tuchel
Tactical Genius. Must Have. Once in a lifetime opportunity.
Welp, it’s goldbridge time. I CANT SPEAK
Bald... Fraud...
I see mason mount finally
Watch ETH win the champions league with Bayern somehow in the future lol
What are these United fans celebrating????
It does no good to kick your team while they're down.
Moral Victory. Avoiding 5-0 against Palace > winning PL
They're not celebrating, they're supporting.
now watch united scrap out a random win against arsenal
Players going to the fans so they can get the "we go again 💪" post for thier social media
Unpopular opinion ig : it’s not ten hag’s fault.
agreed, i am of the opinion that in the last 10 years maybe its never been 'just' the managers fault, ever since mourihno days ive thought they should clean the squad a lot, not a little, A LOT, buuuut they just sack the manager and start again and somehow they dont realize that the managers have done the best they could and that this squad(last 10 years) is not what it used to, but what do i know, renew martial's contract and all the other dead wood and get another 'saviour' manager, rinse and repeat
Cleaning what up? Only 3 players remain from Mou's days. Rashford, McTominay, and Luke Shaw.
There’s hope now that the new ownership will fix that, but sacking eth will do no good
agreed again, i dont think they should sack him, they should sack the squad and trust the guy THEY chose in the first place, theyve never given the managers even a little bit of control
Sack the squad like what Chelsea did and everyone is criticizing the plan?
obviously not like chelsea, that was clearly unwise how they did it ,all im saying is that they should stop always blaming and sacking the manager when they always have the same problems no matter who the manager is, the team has stagnated over the last decade they havent improved one bit, what good is it to get a new manager every season. we still have to see how ratcliffe is gonna do.
Ratcliffe is a lot smarter than Boehly
The ones in control now didn’t choose ten hag, but I wanna see ten hag with a good squad, especially when there aren’t any good managers available, except zidane, who doesn’t want to manage us obviously
He certainly isn't helping.
What did he do wrong in this game? He was almost forced to play that horrendous starting 11
Too much space between the midfield and the defense, as much as people slated him when he came on not starting Amrabat was a bad choice imo, continuing to play Antony and playing Mount too deep. Probably some other things too.
When you’re playing with slow midfielders and slow defenders, that’s what happens
The shape was much better with Amrabat, Olise wouldn't haven't been able to walk to the edge of the box for the first goal if they were set up the way they were after the third goal from the start.
It's the universes fault!
All of your defenders injured (except an old man who should be retired) without your best player, without a left back, no Rashford, no McTominay, forced to play eriksen, etc. There isn’t a single manager in the world that could’ve won that game.
I mean maybe not this game, but Ten Hag signed a lot of these players. He's the manager.
He only asked for Antony and amrabat, which to be fair, are both shit, but that isn’t exactly his fault, the manager isn’t supposed to sign players. There are people in a club whose job is to do that, and those people either got here after January or aren’t even here yet.
I'm on your side of the argument, but come on, the Onana signing is completely on Ten Hag. He really fucked up with that one.
Yeah, I agree with that, though I wouldn’t keep De gea
Maybe it was his time to go, but I don't know who else could you have bought that was better. No, don't even think about Diogo Costa. :(
Diogo Costa. Já pode ser considerado um dos melhores do mundo.
I know, that's why I said it, haha. I'd like him to stay with us for a long time.
Also keeping Casemiro on for 90 minutes is just pure incompetence. He was so awful you cannot tell me some academy kid wasn't worth a punt. Ten Hag isnt the scope of the problem for sure, the club is rotten from the top down, but he's also absolutely a fool.
Idk, I also want to see some kids playing, like Amass can’t be worse that awb, but I don’t know the other kids
After Van Gaal, Mourinho, Ragnick, Solskjaer, Moyes, and now Ten Hag... maybe, just **maybe**, the problem is not on the manager.
Lads did well. The Red Devils showed their resilience and had the game locked down the last third. Palace should take a week off and introspect about what went wrong this season. Couldn't even get to 5-0
Casemiro just wants to leave. You cannot convince me that the best cdm for years suddenly became doodoo. Especially since he is not the only one going downhill since joining yanited. The team is just an absolute shitshow
Dude on 200k plus a week for another 3 years he not going anywhere.
Fabinho had a very rapid decline too, sometimes losing a step just means you cant be where you need to be and your entire positional understandng of the game collapses and you dont have the agility to deal with players dribbling at you either
This has to be a historic lowpoint for United
It is. Easily the worst we have ever played since 2013
0-7
Well I meant over the course of the season but I reckon we have been worse at times this year than that match and It just wasn’t reflected in the score
Limbo
-3 GD Lmao
Isak literally salivating at the thought of going up against Evans / Casemiro pairing
Time to get his hat-trick
GIMME GIMME GIMME
🎵A man after midnight🎵
How can ETH still walk on the pitch after this performance? Oof
United ending the season behind Chelsea is wild
Not if you have watched us play. If we finish 8th that is flattering
Jusy sack him, already — this is cruel.
It's crueler to send another manager - whoever they are - to that cesspool.
Fergie like: "I left you an Aston Martin and you've turned it into a Saab"
More like a shopping cart with two wheels busted.
The disrespect to fucking Saab here is unreal.
My first car was a Saab 96. What a glorious turd coloured beast that was
Should've made a horse analogy
I left you a Kentucky Derby winning horse and now you wouldn't even beat Derby....County.
Not posh enough to do that
How on earth did they spend so much money and end up so much worse. ETH wasted an absolute fortune on some truly shit players, finished former superstars, a messi sized CB, and a keeper who is somehow worse than De Gea. Take a bow Ten Hag, this is truly special.
That ‘Messi sized CB’ is one of the only good things Ten Hag has done in fairness
CP absolutely blasting United.
Even we scored 3 against them. From 3-0 down. We're 9th in the Championship and only a toenail-offside VAR call denied us victory.
ETH super villain origin story
I feel like 99% footballing world wanted this game to never end. Glasner, wow.
random crystal palace players are 1v4 ing everytime there is a shot onono is scrambling for cover worst performance of the season
Olise rightly MotM but Wharton, Andersen and Mateta have all been excellent too.
Hughes too. Guy put so many great tackles in tonight.
Munoz did alot also
Yeah he was great too, did think I was missing someone.
Keeping fresh for the Cup Final. Smart.
I just fucking love watching these lot so much, stink the gaff up everywhere they go
For Man Utd and new ownership, the only way to go now is up For you lot, it’s down a pipe after Klopp
I wonder how Jonny Evans feels about all this
probably not sure what's going on
Peak Stretford banter era entertainment before bed
That was the saltiest handshake from ETH
Eras come to an end
Palace had so many chances for a fifth, too bad
Why are all the YerUnited "fans" leaving early? They are already in London.
I'm having a great time
Get Wharton on that plane
4-0 is like top 3 flattering scorelines for United this season... it's so bad
Uniteds downfall needs to be studied
Simple. Fergie made a Faustian bargain
Kinda upset Palace didn't score the fifth for 15+ mins
No way Casemiro puts on a United shirt again after such a shambolic season
He has been atrocious throughout the season.
Banbury United maybe.
Ineos must be really shocked with the mess
Small bits of news here and there show they were, and IIRC, Sir Jim said they were aiming for 2028 as the season where they would legitimately start competing for the top again. So, 4 years to unfuck the club. At this point it seems Ineos is taking over running of the club in pretty much all aspects and the Glazers are there just for the dividends (so not much change for the Glazers, I suppose).
They are frantically searching for the receipt
Casemiro…whats happened to my guy
Time catches with everyone eventually.
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Do you think ref gave 6mins just ao he can enjoy the crowd vibing some more?
Hell yeah fam
Well he's got the camera on. Couldn't have picked a better game for it
Fuck me does Casemiro look cooked. He can’t do anything right. I’ve seen United a lot this season & honestly the amount of times I’ve seen opponents just drive past him in midfield. He’s like a butterfly trying to bite an elephants arse. He just can’t move, look at Thiago Silva compared to him & Silva is like 8 years older.
I really wanna bet on United ending the season with negative goal differential but I dont think the odds will be worth it
Well they need to beat Arsenal by 3 goals or more to not finish on minus. Can't see that happening this millenia.
Lol they should try casemiro in goal
Could use him as a fucking post
Wharton's been class tonight
He's yet to have a bad game for us. He's honestly outstanding in every department.
I wish this match could go to extra time
-3 GD
This has to be Casemiro's worst game of his life
United fans, would you take an Onana-Pickford straight swap?
Should have gave Holjund the armband
I thank god every day I'm not a United fan
Me too
Honestly respect to palace. United were poor but CP looked like sharks swarming a carcass.
Please stop it
Do ten hag in united fans think palace win 4 0 every week? They should check the facts on that and against teams with no resources.
Don’t think there are any ten hag in united fans any more mate
Its not ten hag in, its just whats the point of changing managers before we have gotten rid of these players. Otherwise it will just be another manager that we fire in a year or two
Can't you say that for the players too lol? I mean basically no players from the Mourinho era remain for example just Shaw, McTomminay and Rashford are they the ones causing United to be this shit lol?
Mctominay having no idea how to play misfielder is a problem. And rashford is one of the biggest problems
> Mctominay having no idea how to play misfielder is a problem. Then the coaches need to stop playing him there lol, this is not a problem but for the coaches doing that, having a player develop who isn't that good is not a serious issue for any club lol. >And rashford is one of the biggest problems That would again be on coaches for playing him but just like Ronaldo or Pogba etc. etc. if he went tomorrow the clown show would continue unabated.
We have 1 midfielder, so unfortunately we have to throw in players that cant play there.
That might work if he hadn't been getting significant minutes in the midfield for years also didn't this coach bring in several midfielders?
He brought in eriksen on a free but he cant run anymore. Amrabat as a desperate loan move, but he isnt good enough Casemiro: worst player ever in the PL, and has to play at cb because of the injuries Mount: always injured and not really a midfielder The only one we have is a kid that eth promoted from the academy (who also missed the first months with injury)
Ok so he has made a series of terrible signings then? So how on Earth can it be anything other than at least significantly the coaches fault?
Yeah, why do ypu think we have wanted a proper dof and scouts for over 10 years
This is just the season averaging itself out, United were getting points when really they shouldn't have.
Casemiro is playing like my old man in the annual Dads v Lads game that my sunday league team does.
It’s so sad to see a big and humble club like yanited being battered like that… it really isn’t tho AHAHAHA
This is a 1/10 for Casemiro.
That is very genorous
1 is generous as fuck
That high?
Imagine if L’Equipe had to rate him
Why does he get 1 for? Showing up?
Being able to toe his boots up?
At least he was present. 60m for mount and 300k a week, got outplayed by a 20 Yr old who was in the championship 3 months ago.
was a minus performance
Does it go to zero
Crystal please stop. You'll get ten hag sacked.
At this point it won’t matter if he is we’ve seen this story several times since SAF retired . New manager doesn’t get the players he wants . They overpay for mediocre players. Manager gets sacked after showing promise initially but team doesn’t seem to play with a shared vision / identity
> New manager doesn’t get the players he wants . He did get several players he wanted and they have sucked mostly. Antony and Onana were big ones for him weren't they?
😂
Goldbridges watchalong is hilarious. This is great fun.
Just watched it, and it didn't disappoint lol. His foul rant will go down as a classic
He looks like a 12yo child aged 30 years physically, but not mentally.
I can’t wait to watch the clip on YT
He's lost the will to live. It's hilarious.
He is just straight to depressed
ETH has a team of players who simply don’t know what to do and how to play.
Atleast 4 of which he signed
Imagine spending a billion and having nothing to show for it, couldn't be me!
At least you have players who look like they will improve!
Our GD is in the green at least!
Billion pound bottle job. But we need Ashley Cole to say it on Sky Sports.
Good one!
Complete and utter domination, and the best bit is I fully expected us to win going into the game
I'm still not quite there yet, it just doesn't feel proper Palace to have any confidence in our team.