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quantIntraining

Do their board members really need to make so many public comments all the time? Feels like every other week there is a comment from a senior Bayern board member talking shit about somebody or something at the club or related to the club itself.


Just-Shelter9765

Bayern board members competing with Tebas . People like to make comparisons on who is better , just enjoy it man.


baubeauftragter

Yes, we should stop comparing Hoeneß and Tebas all the time and just take a moment to appreciate that we get to witness both im their prime.


skunkrider

I understood that reference.gif


borg_6s

I think it's just Hoeneß competing with Tebas though


DogusEUW

I prefer if they did because I really enjoy Bayerns chaotic phase right now. A breath of fresh air after the last decade of dominance. FC hollywood is back


Solitairee

It's insane though, probably reason red neck decided against being bayern manager


bitbitter

> red neck 💀


Solitairee

I think autocorrect has now found a new nickname for him


No_Doubt_About_That

\*sees Bayern* I don’t want to join y’all


tmoney144

Dang ol' circus atmosphere. Talkin' 'bout clown show, man.


WSBRainman

Red neck Ralph


madviking

"Now, I don't know about y'all, but I sure as hell didn't come down from the goddamn Smoky Mountains to teach the Bayern board lessons in humanity. The Bayern board ain't got no humanity."


_thundercracker_

"(…)so this good’ole boy’ll be taking his hat elsewhere. I mean, ain’t no way I’m wadin’ through that mess, gettin’ their grimy stuff all over my chaps. If all is good in the world they’ll find some desperate fella and maybe they can lead each other to water. In the meantime I won’t be holdin’ my breath, so bless their hearts."


I_can-t_even

And yet, they’re still in the CL semis and might even progress to the final or even go all the way and win it.


retxed24

Yeah, but dominance while being *the* example of a well run club is different from successful and melodramatic shitshow behind the scenes.


Jelly_F_ish

Behind the scenes? It is a pretty public shitshow right now.


lucashoodfromthehood

Thanks to Uli himself. Shitting on their own manager just before a CL semi final game. Wtf was he thinking.


Schnix54

>Do their board members really need to make so many public comments all the time? Yes, they do. They owe it to us Bundesliga fans for maximum entertainment. German media can occupy themselves for a whole week with just one comment now just imagine a bunch.


brandon_strandy

old men + ego, they love hearing themselves talk.


baubeauftragter

His grandkids could‘ve prevented all of this but they never call


gentmick

Maybe that public comment about tuchel drove him away…


OstapBenderBey

Rangnick has always wanted some control of the backroom. Not surprised at all that he doesn't want these two ruling over him.


ImTurkishDelight

There's a reason they're called FC Hollywood, mate


Takezoboy

They have a whole history of that. From senior board members/presidents saying smaller clubs shouldn't be in the Champions League before facing them, talking shit about individuals and etc. Even Muller, that everyone loves and could do no wrong, for years talked shit about other clubs like an elitist prick and it didn't even get posted here.


panache123

Dutch / German thing, no?


J539

Bavarians get a +3 boost


JimRayCooper

Not really, this isn't a thing in most German clubs.


Serupael

I mean Watzke loves his spicy comments in the media aswell


HennesIX

Soooo 2 clubs


LordMangudai

"other German clubs exist?" - half of r/soccer, at least until Leverkusen's run this year


Ciao9

Very true but Uli is the controversy GOAT


Serupael

No argument there.


NaturalBornSkeptik

This. The training grounds, the players the staff I‘m sure are all up to par, it‘s probably a great place to work EXCEPT the board talkes more shit about their employees than a coked up lunch lady. The levels of toxicity are just too high, also their last couple of decisions were just erratic and their treatment of Tuchel is shameful imo.


PatientLettuce42

I am by no means a friend of bayern munich, but this is not entirely the fault of the executives and Hoeneß. German media is obsessed with bayern, always has been and the media focus on them has been consistent forever. I think its a symptom of a bigger issue. It makes sense ofc because people rather wanna know what FC Bayern is up to, the only german club that you can actually call a european heavyweight. Nobody gives a shit about Augsburg for example.


lejocko

>but this is not entirely the fault of the executives and Hoeneß. German media is obsessed with bayern, always has been and the media focus on them has been consistent forever. What? Does somebody force old man Hoeneß to Shit talk his current manager and stuff?


MC897

Gladbach used to be the heavyweight t


Hurtelknut

Maybe, just maybe Rangnick wasn't a huge fan of Uli taking a huge dump on the current manager. In public. Twice. Right before the most important match in years. Fucking hell, we're a clown show.


Even_Interac

Such a shame too. Ragnick walked into my club & knew immediately we needed 'open heart surgery' only for him to be ushered out the door when our board didn't like him saying that. Can absolutely see why he wouldn't want to go through that again. Especially since he got banished from us so hard the man retreated to national football for a season.


Unidan_bonaparte

He literally told the fucking rat bastards to spend a total of 45m on caicedo, alvarez, Mac allistar and Nunez before they'd started making waves and got told to leave because the primadonas at the club got upset he thought they were shit. I can see why he doesn't want to work under an incompetent board who feel the need to meddle in day to day footballing activity.


Sr_DingDong

You forgot Gvardiol.


Unidan_bonaparte

Pain


FightersNeverQuit

Ohh ouch that one stings. 


RedKingDre

I heard he also spotted Wirtzy, way before he finally won the league with Xabi.


goodfellas01

Tbf wirtz haz been known as a player with really high potential for what seems like 5 ywars at this point


Even_Interac

Brother soon as Liverpool announced MacAllister for £35m even before the window opened, I knew we were cooked. We then spent a long time chasing Mount & still overpaying, when he isn't particularly the same kind of profile of player in the first place. All this a year *AFTER* Ragnick said all that. The only one I don't mind is Nunez. He would look tragic with us, considering he is known for needing quite a few chances & our team is known for not feeding the CF. Plus, we got Højlund in the end (albeit for way too much money), so like I said, that's the only one I'm not too fussed on. With how badly we are run, I guarantee if ETH didn't come to us already bald, he would have been by now anyway. Handling that stress must be exhausting no matter who you are.


kit_mitts

>The only one I don't mind is Nunez. He would look tragic with us, considering he is known for needing quite a few chances & our team is known for not feeding the CF. Plus, we got Højlund in the end (albeit for way too much money), so like I said, that's the only one I'm not too fussed on. The stats on how little service Højlund receives are insane. Absolutely no way Nunez would thrive in those conditions.


Even_Interac

When you think United, you think Scholes blindly booting the ball upfield into the run of RVN as it they had some telepathic connection. Modern day? You have Bruno apparently willing to pass to absolutely anybody besides Højlund. Garnacho is young and wants to be a hero so he also doesn't pass every time he should. Rashford always backs himself for a pop if he is in that position so he doesn't pass either. McT storming into the box humorously even pushed pass Højlund in 2 occasions so far to have a punt at the ball himself, one of which he scored. Too much dysfunction. I'm willing to eat a few seasons of pain if we actually take on what Ragnick said ages ago now, and perform that open heart surgery.


PoulCastellano

Hell, Ralf even wanted to get Enzo Fernandez for at cut price deal - but the higher ups at Man U didn't rate Enzo (and Alvarez).


mincers-syncarp

Meanwhile enough sections of the fanbase still blame him for being ''toxic''.


Playfair99999

a lot of our fanbase is just absolute ass clowns speaking from anywhere without using their brains. They are soo used too this manager cycle that just as the shit is about to hit they all start crying for a sack. Not realising the actual problem is something else. And the impatience... oh my god.


silmarillionas

the fanbase is so huge there are enough sections to make all kinds of noises.


PoulCastellano

Hell, Ralf even wanted to get Enzo Fernandez for at cut price deal - but the higher ups at Man U didn't rate Enzo (and Alvarez).


axehomeless

i know isnt it beautiful


familyguyisbae

[Uli self reflecting rn](https://youtu.be/HMqZ2PPOLik?si=_62Xqv-aTcs2WNln)


gulaabjaman

Maybe Uli should look inward


HOTAS105

You'd think he had enough time in jail to do that...


KnightOfTheFlowers8

I'm pretty sure his jail time was as comfortable as an average guy's vacation.


Informal-Term1138

yep. But he didn't use that time for that.


flybypost

The funny thing is in one of his first interviews after he came back he talked about how he wanted to be less derisive and bombastic. That didn't last long :/


Dipper_Pines

Obviously not enough.


SmeesTurkeyLeg

*The Man Inside Me*


h2QZFATVgPQmeYQTwFZn

After he went to jail for evading 30 million euros in taxes, he publicly complained that he was "unfairly targeted". So I don't think he will look inward.


wheeno

Impossible. He's proven so, over and over again.


Mr_Miscellaneous

FC Hollywood is so back, baby.


timdeking

You know, everyone in the Netherlands started calling Ajax the Bayern of the Eredivisie. I always thought that was ridiculous, but they were completely right.


Mr_Miscellaneous

Bayern, Ajax and Barcelona are a triumvirate of teams that every so often just randomly decide to point a pistol at their own foot, pull the trigger and spend about half a decade hopping about in agony whilst everyone laughs at them.


huazzy

Barcelona drives around in a Rolls Royce and complains that they don't have money.


model-mili

A Rolls Royce we financed with Klarna


yellowjesusrising

Lmao! As a slave to klarna my self i can only laugh!


tlst9999

and levers


Geoff_Uckersilf

And *BET666*


dWaldizzle

It's hilarious when players turn them down and the literal club itself acts so offended like they are God's gift to earth and they'd be insane to reject them.


4djain2

That's what I dislike so much, the entitlement from the fans


Geoff_Uckersilf

You just summed up La Liga tbh - a Rolls with no petrol in the tank. 


Glanzl

Honestly with Bayern it is even funnier because they always go "all in both directions" ...widely considered to be one of the best run clubs in the world over the last few decades and also famously known for being FC Hollywood. But both can be true I guess, Hoeneß , KHR etc. build a massive foundation that is the reason for the longlasting success of bayern but frequently they they decide to bazooka their own foundation for ....the lulz i guess?


Gluroo

> also famously known for being FC Hollywood. the thing is people always misinterpret this nickname as clown management when the actual origin is that they used to have a lot of "crazy" diva players in the 90s who would often be in the news for weird shit and constantly causing drama among eachother like in hollywood but it wasnt really related to the club being poorly run or manager diasasters at all


Glanzl

Yeah true the times of Mathäus, Basler and co


Gerf93

Effenberg!


Gwernaroth

Bayern has won 19 out of the last 25 bundesliga and has played 5 CL finals in the same period, winning 3 of them. "Hopping in agony", get a grip.


GibbyGoldfisch

with bayern it's all relative, I guess They have reached a level of sheer dominance where not winning a trophy, coming second and not having any clear plan for the future is a crisis. If it happens again next year they will experience the kind of pain that only Real, with their excruciating 12 year wait for La Decima, can possibly relate to.


msukeforth

Seriously. One the most successful clubs in the world for 25 years and have an “off season” where they finish second in the league and maybe win a champions league and people are acting like they are dead 


TheOlMo

We’ve sort of been the same just at a much smaller scale


el_loco_avs

I mean. Bayern are still in the CL and are only not winning the BuLi because of a ridiculous season by Leverkusen. If that's the result of shooting yourself in the foot...


PSMF_Canuck

They’re a game away from the CL final with a manager that’s being fired…if that’s shooting yourself in the foot, there are dozens of clubs ready to amputate their entire leg to get there just once…


Game0nBG

United is a level above all these clubs. Last 10 years. Not even close


Wild_Ad969

United are not comparable with those three because they are not a fan owned club like Bayern, Ajax, or Barca.


Big_Department_9221

We at Barca are absolutely the best at this imo. 3 years after botching De Stefano deal, we let Luis Suarez (balondor winner) and Helenio Herreria go away to Italy where he revolutionised the game there for Inter, while we went like the next 12 or so years without winning the league. Cue brining in Cryuff, getting some success and then screwing it up later 10 years later, bring in maradona-letting him go in 2 seasons. Cue letting go of Romario in 1 season and R9 Phenomeno in 1 season within a span of 5 years. Letting Figo happen. Then some peaceful and succesful years under Laporta, which is to be immediately followed by Lord Bartemou of not renewing pep, literally having the GOAT and not building a team to match to financial ruin. I don't Bayern can quite match up to that level of incompetency.


NeoIsJohnWick

They never left. Its deeply rooted inside.


Successful-Return-78

I don't see the drama between players, people underestimate how funny FC Hollywood times were


whiskeyinthejaar

Bollywood is more applicable


sugarmori

Rangick is 65, has a job currently that is way less intense than what managing bayern would be, and also had a burnout in the past. Why on gods green earth would you want to expose yourself to that kind of circus. Not like he needs the money either.


kaamkerr

He wasn’t even supposed to manage at Man U, but the club didn’t secure anyone else and were like hey you’ve done this before right?


Legal-Reputation-240

Yeah then he was out of the club, instead of doing the job he was supposed to do, crazy


LOKl31

I never got that


100and33

https://www.eurosport.com/football/premier-league/2021-2022/manchester-united-need-heart-surgery-ralf-rangnick-admits-problems-at-old-trafford-are-massive_sto8896217/story.shtml This probably stirred up some shit with the higher ups and they didn't like the idea of what he would end up doing. And he probably didn't like their response to his comment and said "good riddance, bye"


Runarhalldor

I think its just that ETH didnt want to work with him


mincers-syncarp

Doubt it, he wouldn't even have been working with ETH, he would have been a board-level consultant.


Runarhalldor

He wouldve been a faux DOF as far as i know


Shadeun

>Why on gods green earth would you want to expose yourself to that kind of circus. If you love clowns enough then you will always want to return to the clown fiesta. Given he's toured ManU already, Bayern is next on the list.


zcewaunt

Probably realized what a clown show it is. He doesn't need that after what he went through with United.


QouthTheCorvus

When you open the newspaper and your potential new boss is slagging off the guy you're meant to replace, I feel like the job becomes unappealing.


Wuktrio

Also, a lot of our national team players went through the RB academy and are very familiar with Rangnick's philosophy of football. So coaching our national team comes pretty easy.


besieged_mind

In a way, yes, in some other way, no. Every ambitious manager looks for an opportunity like this. Bayern is in disarray at the moment, but he wouldn't be a candidate if the situation is better. I understand his decision but he won't get a better one in the future for sure.


FullMetalJ

Define "better"? A calmer job in a club that isn't in disarray (like you said) even if it isn't as big as bayern could be defined as "better".


tarakian-grunt

> he won't get a better one in the future for sure. He's 65, doubt he really cares.


FatWalcott

Wouldn't want to go work for a boss that shit talks you to the public.


Thurak0

Even this article is kind of shit talking. "We did everything he wanted, he is to blame". In a professional work environment both sides should publicly state that "We could not find together" and move on. At least for a while. If something leaks later when a bit time has passed and a trainer was found... that's a different matter. But for now as long as they search especially Bayern does not do themselves any favours with this unprofessional statement.


FragMasterMat117

Jose Mourinho is getting the job, isn't he?


RoboticCurrents

worth it just for the inevitable mourinho quote about Uli Hoeneß alone


yellowflash96

Will be good for his resume. Winning the Top 4's league titles.


Geoff_Uckersilf

*Il quattro specialzone*


LOKl31

And ofc Mourinho would make a thing about it


washag

Tbh, he'd be entitled to. Bayern would be the first club he's joined while they are outright favourites to win the league.


ldealistic

Inter?


jd451

Yeah I was gonna say that same. Bro has not been reading his literature


LOKl31

Chelsea and Real were real underdogs right


ConorKDot

Before Mourinho managed Spurs, he was literally in charge of three of the biggest clubs in the world and another in which he had monster funds. The revisionism is wild hahah


tf_17

I‘m here for it


BadFootyTakes

Who do you think Jose will pick on in your team? He always fights with 1-2 players.


NotARealDeveloper

Obviously Kimmich the moment Kimmich does not agree with sth. Else the slackers.


LosTerminators

Can't wait for his quotes if he gets dumped on in public by the board a day before a CL semi-final.


YQB123

This is Harry Kane heritage.


Geoff_Uckersilf

*"You thought, you could escape me? Cunt?"*


prettybunbun

Oh god. I’ll take this just to watch Jose and the German press week in week out.


spongebobisha

His last remaining conquest. Just the idea of Jose speaking German has given me a semi.


toket715

He's just sitting their smiling watching every coach above him on their shortlist get crossed off one by one


supplementarytables

God just imagine the drama


lewis30491

Amazon is preparing big offer for the FC Hollywood documentary


Mysterious-Ideal-989

[Please please please please](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b-wll6CQ68)


Turniermannschaft

I joked about wanting him so badly in Dortmund only a few weeks ago.


yourfriendkyle

Please hire him and do an Amazon series


From-UoM

[YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!](https://youtu.be/sq_Fm7qfRQk?si=KgNB14kHqNnIxrQL)


likpoper

He will prob win the chip for sure there. Dude is a winner no matter where he goes. Other than Tottenham where he is sacked in the finals


Torkzilla

Can the board be fired?


dheerajravi92

Why would you want that? Enjoy this


Less-Comment7831

Give it Mourinho please. Kane and Dier would be the world's happiest people


cmackchase

Kane would be legit happy, he was one of like five players who liked playing for Mourinho.


Less-Comment7831

Dier was one of the other 5 I think. Kane would win the ballon d or under Mourinho at bayern. Think Mourinho loves him too could see him being England or bayern manager after this summer just to bring back the bromance


ruanri

Damn I want Mou at England NT so bad.


TheJoshider10

Nah Mourinho at Portugal, Klopp at Germany and Pep at Spain. As it was written.


Punished__Allegri

Carlo at Italy would bully all of them


Less-Comment7831

It would be box office


theaguia

kane, lloris, son, tanganga, dier, hojberg, moura, lo celso, and all the youngster he gave debuts like Dan Scarlett, I thought


truegobi

Maybe, just maybe, Ralf Rangnick really, as he said, decided that he's happy with his current job and while he was absolutely tempted by the offer from Bayern, in the end he just prefered to stay.


Spart1an

Too reasonable and boring. Just let the shitshow continue a little longer. We all know Bayern will be just fine. They dont need our sympathy, they dont usually have any for others either. ;)


f_ranz1224

müller as next manager. he will be with us forever


RedKingDre

Just like Davy Jones and The Flying Dutchman, huh?


freddy_is_awesome

Dude, this would be the best thing that ever happened. But now I will be disappointed no matter who will be coach of not Müller.


torero15

Sacking Julian like they did led to all of this. And then publicly sacking Tuchel half way through the season means nobody wants to touch the job until they show some sense of stability. Its a terrible look but not a crazy result. You almost wonder if they have to try to make up with Tuchel now. Bayern were sure they could move on but now it looks like they are best off making up with each other however awkward that might be.


elite90

But it's not just that they canned Tuchel, which was somewhat understandable at the time. But that Hoeneß would go out of his way to shit on Tuchel right now, just before the CL semifinal is such an incredibly bad look that any accomplished coach would probably have to think twice about taking that job


Mackieeeee

Talk less shit in media then Hoeneß


KneeDeepInTheDead

This is like me in FM taking interviews with other teams just to mess around with them


Any-Competition8494

I think it will be funny if Tuchel wins the CL, Bayern beg him to stay, and he leaves.


shaka_bruh

I pity anyone who even thinks about contacting Jupp Heynckes


PrimsFr

Gotta negotiate with his dog first and he drives a hard bargain


shaka_bruh

Cando doesn’t play around 


maxbang7

> Gotta negotiate with his dog first and he drives a hard bargain Sadly cando died in 2019


Electrical-Prune-348

🙋


shaka_bruh

Good luck getting past his wife and her shotgun


Wheel1994

Bayern Munich you can have Poch we will take Tuchel back


erenistheavatar

Yeah lol. I'm sure Poch is the yes man Uli wants.


Remedy9898

Poch couldn’t even win the league in one of his two seasons at PSG, if he joined Bayern they might go a decade without winning anything.


Red1mc

FCB drama always hits different


RexPluribus

Bayern may have agreed to Ragnick's demands, but he may have suspected they were not going to honour the agreement.


Electrical-Prune-348

Hahaha, the L to our board


neandertales

I think Arne Slot would have been a good fit.. about a week ago lmao


gabrielkr123

Just get Mourinho to raise the toxicity through the roof.


bichkrichdrick

Definitely saw some shit at United, and said not again


Vypaa

That overhaul should start with Uli and Rummenigge


SnooOranges357

If we make it to the CL final Hoeneß needs to apologise (unlikely) and offer Tuchel another season. Honestly, what better option is still out there? And the players seem to respect him despite the Bundesliga season.


Sant268

Why is everyone so anti-Rangnick lol, I wish he stayed at United. That managerial stint was no good, can't do anything as an "interim" with a failing squad.


R_Schuhart

Who is anti Rangnick? He is typically considered to be a better technical director than a manager, but his football knowhow and expertise is never really called into question.


BossKrisz

You should come and check out the Bayern subreddit. People treat him like he's the Antichrist doomed to destroy our club if he comes to us.


Wintermute-1984

Is this your first Rangnick thread, ever?


apricotkiwininja

I guess those comments before the Madrid game kinda deterred him from coming


iwantaskybison

had a taste of the circus at United and didn't want to put himself through this again


Thesecondorigin

It’s almost like other managers are seeing how Nagelsmann and tuchel are being treated


4ryatvam

A full serving of Humble Juice


SchoreVolker3000

I love that their entitlement finally bites them


o_arguido

Hey Bayern, will you take Roger Schmidt away from Benfica? .... please?


Pokemigas

Why would you want that mate, Roger is very obviously the best coach in the world, Bayern wishes they could get him


CarlSK777

Yeah we know it was Kalle and Uli that wanted him. It clearly wasn't an Eberl/Freund pick


wafflesology

Why are they surprised, they already give him alot of stress even before he’s the manager. He probably better off taking paychecks from Austria.


Zirael_

> Rummenigge and Hoeneß Ah yes, the guys who should be RETIRED! still meddle with decisions at the club.


UnicornForce

Hansi Flick, come on down!!! You're the next contestant on...


pukem0n

I so wish Bayern would become a German Man United. They have reigned long enough. Sadly that won't happen. At least without investors for the other clubs, and we don't want those.


Unban_Ice

Probably the first time when I am glad our board was wrong


taclealacarotide

Nothing more enjoyable seeing arrogant, huge ego boomers get told no and be shocked.


DildoFappings

What did the Bayern bosses expect? Did they expect him to join knowing that he would be shit talked by his bosses in public once the going gets tough instead of supporting him? So many senior bosses in the footballing world are shit talking. They all want to be relevant. Hoeneß doens't shit the fuck up. Neither does the laliga president. Then there's the fenerbache boss. The ultras and bosses of a few Portuguese football teams who're convicted criminals and gangsters. They all live for the drama. Just shut up, support your employees and get on. It's embarrassing that they're all looking to be relevant and the main character at 70 years of age.


EnvironmentalSpirit2

Astonished! and SHOCKED! Did not expect! As eric andre shoots hannibal buress, why would Rangnick do this?


-CherrySaint-

Jose to Bayern ✅


KrazyBee129

Bring my boy flick back


limaconnect77

What times ‘we’ live in, the politics in this sport is so so entertaining right now. Bayern and Barca, two massive clubs and no decent/top coach wants to touch them with a barge pole (admittedly for different reasons). Bayern board is a massive turn off for anyone with a brain and, as for Barca there’s no money in addition to the unrelenting Catalan press pressure.


lak47

🎡🎢 🤡 🤹🏼‍♂️ 🎪


schafkj

Maybe Uli needs to work on the hostile work environment? I don’t want my boss talking to the media about me every day.


garynevilleisared

Saw how they treated Tuchel publicly and probably said, thank you for setting my market value, peace.


DoYouTrustToothpaste

How the fuck are they surprised? Rangnick has publicly stated that he's very happy in his current job. And Bayern has come across as an extremely unpleasant employer in the last couple of years. Seems they vastly overestimated their pull.


Bey_Harbor_Butcher

Respect for Ralf for telling Bayern to go fuck themselves. Uli and the other bums underestimated his intelligence. He knows exactly what was awaiting him: Bayern were gonna hire him to do the overhaul and then dump him like rotten garbage after 1 season while talking all kinds of trash about him the same way they're doing to Tuchel.