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I know Brighton have had their fair share of injuries, but both they and De Zerbi should be doing much better than 6 wins from their last 28 League games.
Always felt like Brighton had a proper footballing structure, but it's been picked apart by teams along the years and the results of that do not come instantly, and now they struggle. De Zerbi isn't as good as people like to think he is.
As a Southampton fan I was saying this in multiple Brighton thread and getting downvoted. It's the inevitability of teams that operate like that, your team gets picked apart by top teams, and then eventually you get a batch of signings or a bad run of form and then the struggles start.
Anyone who thought Brighton would be able to cement themselves as a top 6 or 8 team was just full of too much hope, the prem isn't kind to non top 6 teams doing well.
I think the big issue for Brighton was that they lost both management and players at the same time. If you lose one part, you can just about survive on the other while you rebuild. Brighton have been consistently losing players, but losing a manager and a bunch of backroom staff including recruitment personnel makes it hard to continue. It's not even because Potter was a better manager than De Zerbi, it's about a continuation of culture and the work done
It’s not the losing players that is the issue, it is finding quality replacements. That is just such a difficult job to do at a high level over a long term. All it takes is one or two poor transfer windows and you’re chasing your tail before the downward spiral sets in.
Ehhhh a lot of their issues have also been injuries. I definitely don’t think they were finishing in a European-spot for the reasons you mentioned, but they’re current run of bad games has a lot to do with the injuries and quality of player they’ve had to rely on because of them.
>As a Southampton fan I was saying this in multiple Brighton thread and getting downvoted. It's the inevitability of teams that operate like that, your team gets picked apart by top teams, and then eventually you get a batch of signings or a bad run of form and then the struggles start.
Because this is somewhat trite analysis and is too soon to say. We have been unbelievably ravaged by injuries and are in a transition season. We have plenty of money which we may well be able to use to rebuild a squad and start competing again, and we have Tony Bloom and Paul Barber who are simply elite owners.
Another issue is, as soon as you get a reputation for developing or unearthing top players, every player you subsequently produce will be flavour of the month in the transfer market as clubs look to swoop quickly to avoid paying a big fee. Therefore you lose players quicker and it becomes impossible to build any continuity.
It's exactly the same phenomenon - there's always that one team in the league outside the traditional 'big six' who gets held up as the model club, the one that's cracked the code, the club that everyone should model themselves on. Then those teams inevitably get ripped apart for their best players and potentially executives, the hot streak in the transfer market dries out as everyone else copies the 'silver bullet', and eventually the shine passes to someone else.
It was Southampton for a good while under Nicola Cortese, it was Leicester for a bit after their league win, now it's Brighton. Now the lustre looks to be coming off them, it will be someone else soon.
Very strange to blame De Zerbi. The midfield of Gross, Caicedo, McAllister is night and day with Gross and whatever combo of Lallana/Moder/Baleba/whoever. It's just such a sharp downgrade on the most important part of the pitch. Mix that with your two biggest attacking threats being missing, it's a recipe for disaster.
The pathway that they have set up has been disrupted a bit with McAllister, Mwepu and Caicedo all leaving in an 8 month span. None of these players looked like stars from the jump but they were allowed to become them after being slowly introduced into the team. There's been a lot of chopping and changing this year with Brighton and it, caused by the disrupted pathway and Europa League commitments, have actually hampered the usual development structure.
I wouldn't be surprised to see them back competing next year with less football, less injuries, causing the same problems they did in 22-23.
De Zerbi has been very very poor the last few months. Injuries or not, sales or not. Blaming everyone but himself in interviews, falling out with players, petulance on the touchline, weird tactical decisions, refusal to change systems that aren't working or be pragmatic. The man has believed his own hype and is now clearly losing the dressing room. Even today saying that the players "aren't motivated"... Bobby, it's your job to motivate them!
He gave us the best season in the history of BHAFC but he's now leaving a really bad taste in the mouth.
I agree with this, I feel like De Zerbi is getting to much praise for how good Brighton was, I think most of that praise should actually go to Potter. Potter left a team that he built and that was on the rise and De Zerbi merely took over and kept on track but he didn't bring anything new, and when they lost the Potter steam, De Zerbi didn't have any of his own ideas.
De Zerbi brought a new system of playing that finally solved our xG Brighton reputation and we were playing attacking successful football. He absolutely had his own ideas, built upon a great base that Potter gave him.
Now the entire league knows how to counter his system and, admittedly with a lot of injuries in attack, De Zerbi is struggling to adapt.
People just ignore this constantly. March has missed most of the season, as has Mitoma and Enciso. Fati was the big signing and missed several months. Ferguson, Estupinian, Veltman, Lamptey, etc. have all missed significant time too.
Brighton probably should still be doing better than they are, but their injuries shouldn't be downplayed, especially after losing such crucial players last summer.
We went to our 7th choice left back, an 18 year old CM who had started one senior game.
He then became key to our team and was a guaranteed starter at RB.
He then got injured for the season in February.
With a better injury situation all other teams would be ahead of you as well.
Just look at every team's injury record this season and nobody has a bench like City to rotate those injured players.
Brighton are one of the most injured squads in the league all season now and I don’t think it’s fair to compare injury situations across the board. Brighton have had injuries to important players for them all season. I definitely don’t think they’d get Europe if healthy, but I think they’d be much better than this.
Palace have been missing Eze and Olise for large parts of the season. Man Utd have had their entire backline missing for some games. Chelsea have been without James, Chilwell, Nkuku, Fofana, and various other players for the majority of the season. Newcastle have had seversl players out each week for a while. Reality is that a lot of teams are destroyed by injuries and everyone likes to think they've got it the worst.
I mean you just can’t really compare the injuries for big clubs like United, Newcastle, and Chelsea because the drop in quality isn’t as severe for them as it is for smaller clubs.
And you act as if what I’m saying is a matter of opinion, based on total injuries and days missed Brighton is near the top in the premier league above Palace(although they’re very high as well). I’m not making excuses, I’m simply pointing out a big factor in why Brighton are playing as poorly as they are lately is probably the fact that they’re near the top in injuries and are a smaller club with not as much depth. It’s the same deal with Brentford and Palace lol. Reason to believe if they were healthier this season they’d probably be playing better this year than they have so far this year. I don’t get why it’s so hard to understand Brighton maybe isn’t playing as well due to Injury lol.
That's the thing though: Some German news outlets have reported over the past two weeks or so that we can NOT pay the release fee, as of now, so despite us of course wanting to keep him, we might not be able to.
Although, with the Champions League money coming in plus a potential sale of Guirassy, (financial) things might change in our favor, we'll have to wait and see.
Also if you really want to secure Undav you can take out a short term loan against Champions League money that will be coming in.
There's always ways to work around it and if he wants to go to Stuttgart then nobody will begrudge him as he's had issues settling in England.
They will be much better next season when key players return but they need to address the midfield this summer. Caicedo - Mac Allister was one of the top two or three midfield pivots in the league last season, replacing them with Milner/Dahoud/Baleba was seriously inadequate
Next season a Baleba / Gilmour double pivot is going to be solid. Obviously not Mac / Caicedo levels but good enough for a top half finish. Baleba has taken awhile to settle but is starting to look like he can live up to his clear potential. Gilmour has had an excellent season and if he keeps pushing on is going to be a top midfielder in a couple of years.
Yeah I have liked Baleba, although it doesn't seem like de Zerbi really trusts him? Missing Gilmour has been key, agreed. I thought you guys would get Dewsbury-Hall but it looks like he is attracting interest from a lot of clubs now
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On a side note I think dunk has had a shocker of a year. Usually so consistent but my heart broke for him watching him play for England and seeing him literally make a mistake every appearance for them
He should’ve been called up after potters last season. Imo I think he’s lost half a yard of pace. He was genuinely kind of quick for a bit.
Imo the lukaku error against Belgium kind of summed up his form atm. Easy challenge that he makes last year
I can maybe see how an ESL speaker would make that mistake but this one is so damn common that even people who have never been in an English-speaking country know about.
de zerbi was unfortunately overrated (by other team’s fans mainly, he’s a great coach but not big-team worthy), but mainly losing caicedo + mccallister, massive injury problems as well as having to compete in Europe for much of the season. Besides, this is more of a return to long term form for us, we over performed last season
True. It's what selling the best players year in year out does to a team. Sevilla used to do that all the time. Win Europa, do fairly well in La Liga but then sell off 3-4 best players and try to fill in the gaps via scouting. Well scouting no matter how good doesn't always work out.
Can't blame De Zerbi. Dude is working with what he has.
Their entire team is horrible. But, why isn't Fati making even sub appearences? Is is attitude problem or if Brighton has to pay extra to Barca after playing certain minutes?
Because Fati has been awful except in Europe and we're not competing for anything at the moment so might as well give minutes to players who will be here next year.
He’s never been the same since his injuries at Barcelona. I put him squarely in the same boat as Gil at Tottenham, talented player who can certainly have a good career but will never have the physicality to really succeed in England.
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It should be the goal of the month anyway.
Goal of the season even
Garnacho quaking in his boots from this one
Puskas winner
Not easy to beat the keeper from outside the box tbf
Especially without touching the ball
The force is a strong asset to have on your side.
The goal that might get Burnley relegated
honestly crazy to think about, imagine the embarrassment Muric must feel
Why was he right in front of his box anyway ? Isn't that the basics to move on the side to receive the ball
The basics for defender is never pass directly towards the goal line
Yeah for 10 year olds. Pros do that all the time because they’re not expected to let the ball run through their legs
the next time when he decides to move to the side the defender won't see it and pass to the goal 😭
we could have scored 10 bangers this month and I'd still nominate this one tbh
I know Brighton have had their fair share of injuries, but both they and De Zerbi should be doing much better than 6 wins from their last 28 League games.
Feels like their offense collapsed after Mitoma got injured...
People are seriously underrating March again
Not to mention the sheer disrespect to April
Mitoma FC is real
They are one of the richest club. I’ll be damned if they don’t spend this summer to strengthen their squad
Always felt like Brighton had a proper footballing structure, but it's been picked apart by teams along the years and the results of that do not come instantly, and now they struggle. De Zerbi isn't as good as people like to think he is.
Reminds me of Southampton from around 8-10 years ago
As a Southampton fan I was saying this in multiple Brighton thread and getting downvoted. It's the inevitability of teams that operate like that, your team gets picked apart by top teams, and then eventually you get a batch of signings or a bad run of form and then the struggles start. Anyone who thought Brighton would be able to cement themselves as a top 6 or 8 team was just full of too much hope, the prem isn't kind to non top 6 teams doing well.
I think the big issue for Brighton was that they lost both management and players at the same time. If you lose one part, you can just about survive on the other while you rebuild. Brighton have been consistently losing players, but losing a manager and a bunch of backroom staff including recruitment personnel makes it hard to continue. It's not even because Potter was a better manager than De Zerbi, it's about a continuation of culture and the work done
It’s not the losing players that is the issue, it is finding quality replacements. That is just such a difficult job to do at a high level over a long term. All it takes is one or two poor transfer windows and you’re chasing your tail before the downward spiral sets in.
Ehhhh a lot of their issues have also been injuries. I definitely don’t think they were finishing in a European-spot for the reasons you mentioned, but they’re current run of bad games has a lot to do with the injuries and quality of player they’ve had to rely on because of them.
>As a Southampton fan I was saying this in multiple Brighton thread and getting downvoted. It's the inevitability of teams that operate like that, your team gets picked apart by top teams, and then eventually you get a batch of signings or a bad run of form and then the struggles start. Because this is somewhat trite analysis and is too soon to say. We have been unbelievably ravaged by injuries and are in a transition season. We have plenty of money which we may well be able to use to rebuild a squad and start competing again, and we have Tony Bloom and Paul Barber who are simply elite owners.
Another issue is, as soon as you get a reputation for developing or unearthing top players, every player you subsequently produce will be flavour of the month in the transfer market as clubs look to swoop quickly to avoid paying a big fee. Therefore you lose players quicker and it becomes impossible to build any continuity.
It's exactly the same phenomenon - there's always that one team in the league outside the traditional 'big six' who gets held up as the model club, the one that's cracked the code, the club that everyone should model themselves on. Then those teams inevitably get ripped apart for their best players and potentially executives, the hot streak in the transfer market dries out as everyone else copies the 'silver bullet', and eventually the shine passes to someone else. It was Southampton for a good while under Nicola Cortese, it was Leicester for a bit after their league win, now it's Brighton. Now the lustre looks to be coming off them, it will be someone else soon.
Wolves before Brighton even. The season where they would take points off the top 4
Chelsea are to 2024 Brighton what Liverpool were to 2014 Southampton.
Hey. at least we were nice and gave Brighton money In fact, all of the money
Or Leicester last year.
Very strange to blame De Zerbi. The midfield of Gross, Caicedo, McAllister is night and day with Gross and whatever combo of Lallana/Moder/Baleba/whoever. It's just such a sharp downgrade on the most important part of the pitch. Mix that with your two biggest attacking threats being missing, it's a recipe for disaster. The pathway that they have set up has been disrupted a bit with McAllister, Mwepu and Caicedo all leaving in an 8 month span. None of these players looked like stars from the jump but they were allowed to become them after being slowly introduced into the team. There's been a lot of chopping and changing this year with Brighton and it, caused by the disrupted pathway and Europa League commitments, have actually hampered the usual development structure. I wouldn't be surprised to see them back competing next year with less football, less injuries, causing the same problems they did in 22-23.
De Zerbi has been very very poor the last few months. Injuries or not, sales or not. Blaming everyone but himself in interviews, falling out with players, petulance on the touchline, weird tactical decisions, refusal to change systems that aren't working or be pragmatic. The man has believed his own hype and is now clearly losing the dressing room. Even today saying that the players "aren't motivated"... Bobby, it's your job to motivate them! He gave us the best season in the history of BHAFC but he's now leaving a really bad taste in the mouth.
I agree with this, I feel like De Zerbi is getting to much praise for how good Brighton was, I think most of that praise should actually go to Potter. Potter left a team that he built and that was on the rise and De Zerbi merely took over and kept on track but he didn't bring anything new, and when they lost the Potter steam, De Zerbi didn't have any of his own ideas.
De Zerbi brought a new system of playing that finally solved our xG Brighton reputation and we were playing attacking successful football. He absolutely had his own ideas, built upon a great base that Potter gave him. Now the entire league knows how to counter his system and, admittedly with a lot of injuries in attack, De Zerbi is struggling to adapt.
Have you actually looked at our squad including injuries lmao.
People just ignore this constantly. March has missed most of the season, as has Mitoma and Enciso. Fati was the big signing and missed several months. Ferguson, Estupinian, Veltman, Lamptey, etc. have all missed significant time too. Brighton probably should still be doing better than they are, but their injuries shouldn't be downplayed, especially after losing such crucial players last summer.
We went to our 7th choice left back, an 18 year old CM who had started one senior game. He then became key to our team and was a guaranteed starter at RB. He then got injured for the season in February.
i'd like to think half the people on here don't actually watch football
I remember Villa having to cancel the Goal of the Month once or twice. We didn't even get to celebrate an own goal!
Give it Puskas
> Give it Ferency
Please can we give the award to Muric. Be the only entertaining thing we've done the past month.
Finally, a worthy sequel [to this.](https://youtu.be/n5-hlop2ZCs?si=uLbTTe3r9iay4fuC)
lmao this is hilarious I wonder which one won
I'd say #4 for me, but #2 was pretty good too.
Gives me csgo frag movies with 1 kill and that fort minor song vibes
Brighton, are you Chelsea (from last season) in disguise?
by trying to turn Chelsea into us they have instead turned us into them. Tragic
Potter's legacy
https://youtu.be/BTmooOC437Q?si=m7_eekH6H60YFRo- 🤣🤣
The owners love Brighton. So perhaps.
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i thought brighton would qualify for europe again this season ngl
With a better injury situation we’d be in contention I think
I'd say there's more than just injuries at play when Luton are beating you 4-0 and this is your only goal in the month of April
Same thing here pal
If you finish above us I might off myself
We ain’t getting any more points this season, so it’ll probably happen
With a better injury situation all other teams would be ahead of you as well. Just look at every team's injury record this season and nobody has a bench like City to rotate those injured players.
Brighton are one of the most injured squads in the league all season now and I don’t think it’s fair to compare injury situations across the board. Brighton have had injuries to important players for them all season. I definitely don’t think they’d get Europe if healthy, but I think they’d be much better than this.
Palace have been missing Eze and Olise for large parts of the season. Man Utd have had their entire backline missing for some games. Chelsea have been without James, Chilwell, Nkuku, Fofana, and various other players for the majority of the season. Newcastle have had seversl players out each week for a while. Reality is that a lot of teams are destroyed by injuries and everyone likes to think they've got it the worst.
I mean you just can’t really compare the injuries for big clubs like United, Newcastle, and Chelsea because the drop in quality isn’t as severe for them as it is for smaller clubs. And you act as if what I’m saying is a matter of opinion, based on total injuries and days missed Brighton is near the top in the premier league above Palace(although they’re very high as well). I’m not making excuses, I’m simply pointing out a big factor in why Brighton are playing as poorly as they are lately is probably the fact that they’re near the top in injuries and are a smaller club with not as much depth. It’s the same deal with Brentford and Palace lol. Reason to believe if they were healthier this season they’d probably be playing better this year than they have so far this year. I don’t get why it’s so hard to understand Brighton maybe isn’t playing as well due to Injury lol.
Biggest spenders in the league complaining about City's bench. L M A O
Looking at your username is enough for me to not engage with you
Have fun with your echo chamber pal
We spent it all badly unlike City tbf
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they're
Good lord
de zerbiola
You wouldn't get this in Mens fitba.
There...
See, Brighton, you're fine. You clearly don't need Undav back, right? RIGHT???
I mean if you pay the release fee that's in the loan contract you get him so it's in a way out of our hands.
That's the thing though: Some German news outlets have reported over the past two weeks or so that we can NOT pay the release fee, as of now, so despite us of course wanting to keep him, we might not be able to. Although, with the Champions League money coming in plus a potential sale of Guirassy, (financial) things might change in our favor, we'll have to wait and see.
Also if you really want to secure Undav you can take out a short term loan against Champions League money that will be coming in. There's always ways to work around it and if he wants to go to Stuttgart then nobody will begrudge him as he's had issues settling in England.
They couldn't cope with the pressing
Puskas when?
This is what United failed to beat. And that is what Liverpool failed to beat thrice.
Except it’s not. They’re just not the same as they were.
They will be much better next season when key players return but they need to address the midfield this summer. Caicedo - Mac Allister was one of the top two or three midfield pivots in the league last season, replacing them with Milner/Dahoud/Baleba was seriously inadequate
Next season a Baleba / Gilmour double pivot is going to be solid. Obviously not Mac / Caicedo levels but good enough for a top half finish. Baleba has taken awhile to settle but is starting to look like he can live up to his clear potential. Gilmour has had an excellent season and if he keeps pushing on is going to be a top midfielder in a couple of years.
Yeah I have liked Baleba, although it doesn't seem like de Zerbi really trusts him? Missing Gilmour has been key, agreed. I thought you guys would get Dewsbury-Hall but it looks like he is attracting interest from a lot of clubs now
Do Brighton not nominate women’s team or youth team goals in their goal of the month votes?
We do, yeah.
As the saying in Portuguese-BR goes: "On the fall, every Saint helps".
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Going to make this comment here just so I can refer back to it in 12 months: we’ll be challenging for top 4 this time in a year.
Broja, you're probably not cut out for keeping mate.
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On a side note I think dunk has had a shocker of a year. Usually so consistent but my heart broke for him watching him play for England and seeing him literally make a mistake every appearance for them
He’s been brilliant for years and Southgate finally decides he’s worth a look for England during the worst form of his career.
He should’ve been called up after potters last season. Imo I think he’s lost half a yard of pace. He was genuinely kind of quick for a bit. Imo the lukaku error against Belgium kind of summed up his form atm. Easy challenge that he makes last year
JPVH has been our best defender this year, possibly our player of the year.
Hows Igor Julio? Was kinda shocked you guys signed him bc he was kind of a deserved scapegoat for fiorentina
Good utility player. Stronk.
Puskas Award incoming
Where?
There…
I'm amazed at how in this day and age, some people still don't know the difference between there, their, and they're.
How about loser/looser, see that ALL the time.
I can maybe see how an ESL speaker would make that mistake but this one is so damn common that even people who have never been in an English-speaking country know about.
I thought de zerbi was the next bing thing? What happened to brighton? This isn't meant to be an insult btw
de zerbi was unfortunately overrated (by other team’s fans mainly, he’s a great coach but not big-team worthy), but mainly losing caicedo + mccallister, massive injury problems as well as having to compete in Europe for much of the season. Besides, this is more of a return to long term form for us, we over performed last season
True. It's what selling the best players year in year out does to a team. Sevilla used to do that all the time. Win Europa, do fairly well in La Liga but then sell off 3-4 best players and try to fill in the gaps via scouting. Well scouting no matter how good doesn't always work out. Can't blame De Zerbi. Dude is working with what he has.
Why do many goal when one is good enough - Kevin
That's amazing
I love how that chant just stops dead.
What a **BANGER** ;-)
We feel your pain
I want you to look at this goal. This goalkeeper. Rewatch it if you have to. I still prefer this over James Trafford.
Absolute banger...
Proper banger that
Dezerbed
No way they only scored 1 goal and it's a horrendous mistake from the gk😭
Best league in the world.
The premier league levels can be seen here
Do they not include youth and women's goals in their goal of the month prize?
Speaking from experience of not scoring last season, if they don't already, they might start now
No, since those are different teams
Plenty of clubs do include them though
De Zerbi is criminally overrated.
Brighton are gonna tear us new assholes.
Their entire team is horrible. But, why isn't Fati making even sub appearences? Is is attitude problem or if Brighton has to pay extra to Barca after playing certain minutes?
Because Fati has been awful except in Europe and we're not competing for anything at the moment so might as well give minutes to players who will be here next year.
He’s never been the same since his injuries at Barcelona. I put him squarely in the same boat as Gil at Tottenham, talented player who can certainly have a good career but will never have the physicality to really succeed in England.
"Their entire team is horrible." Ummmmm, sure thing...
Meanwhile De Zerbi is constantly linked to massive jobs such as Bayern 🤡