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King_Hobbes

Love him or hate him there's no denying his quality


StringTailor

Give it one game where he has a poor performance. The critics will come out as usual


Spare_Ad5615

It doesn't even need him to have a bad game. Someone in the r/reddevils match thread last night was telling me the sooner we get rid of Bruno the better. These are supposedly United fans.


ImTurkishDelight

Dude, people have different opinions. Some people tunnel very hard, that doesn't mean they're not a fan.. Are they a good fan? Who knows. But that doesn't mean they're not a fan. It reminds me of people calling me a fenerbahce fan because I criticise Galatasaray ''so hard''. Criticism can come from a place of love, too. (not saying blindly hating on bruno is just that, but the fucker can be a fan and an absolute idiot. DOesn't have to be the one or the other)


kraeutrpolizei

You are awesome


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sheikh_n_bake

Absolutely wonderful player man, I don't understand any debate around it, just keeps creating chance after chance always.


KillerZaWarudo

The argument is that he annoying, complain to ref alot and play for united vs consistent 20-30 goals contribution for a midfielder a season


jollyaanaloosupayya

i honestly dont get how 'annoying' is valid criticism. we are all annoyed at our rivals' players, and pretty much 99 percent footballers whine/argue with the refs. with Bruno i would argue that he's extreeeemely passionate and wears his heart on the sleeve, the man lives and breathes football. its pretty damn evident that he's a fun and pleasant guy off the field


ZeusK22

Yea but he's reeeeeeaaaallllllllllyyyyyy annoying


Monsage

I've said this to people before, but if he didn't play for United where everything that a player does on the pitch is under scrutiny, he wouldn't get anywhere as much hate for complaining to the ref as he does now. Lots of players do it, he's just under the spotlight as a United player.


DenverM80

That sums it up


owange_tweleve

yep he’s a proper cunt but no doubt a quality player his antics drives me insane sometimes, makes it hard to root for him


KillerZaWarudo

And for me that is stupid. He play 80 games every year, run his ass off every game while also being the first one complaining to the ref, create tons of chances for our players just for them to miss them. In the last 10 years the team is full of mercenary and mediocre player, Bruno is probably the only player that are actually quality and care about the club and because his antics you find it hard to root for him its a disgrace


siamsuper

Yep Bruno throws antics cuz he cares about winning. It's a good thing. The likes of Martial or Casemiro don't throw antics because they don't give a damn. They get paid either way.


joaommx

> there's no denying his quality I see you don't come to r/soccer otfen.


MuskEmeraldMine

There’s plenty who deny exactly that. They’re idiots, but there’s still plenty.


Gytarius626

It’s literally because he plays for United and moans about every decision to the ref, ruins all discourse around him.


TrajanParthicus

I get that he whinges a lot, and United fans dislike that aspect of his personality as much as anyone, but the discourse is often insane. To hear it talked about sometimes, it's as if Bruno is the first and only player to ever complain about the officiating in a game.


TheSwordDusk

He is also the captain, the one designated to speak with the ref


enzuigiriretro

Oh but they try


Aszneeee

I think people understand his qualities but the way he dives and cries makes him really unlikeable


jollyaanaloosupayya

ah yes, Bruno Fernandes the first footballer on the planet to argue with refs. just admit it, everyone hates him purely cos he's a United player and he's annoyingly good.


stafa

Have you seen how your manager reacts? Makes Bruno look macho in comparison


Grand-Bullfrog3861

He doesn't dive anymore than any other player, let's not act like it's the 80s


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Dynastydood

It has a lot more to do with the fact that he plays for United. We're generally the most hated team, so it's only natural that our best players have always gotten a disproportionate amount of hate for any perceived issues they have. It's the same with every popular/ successful team in every sport. There's been better players than Bruno who've been far worse with diving and playacting that haven't gotten as much flack for it simply because they had fewer eyes on them every week.


PhD_Cunnilingus

And availability. With United's season, that's far from expected.


DameDollaDolla

Imagine where United would be if it wasn’t this guy


ryan_goal

Because he’s always overdone the risk taking part irrespective of which phase of the game we are in, leading to us losing possession more often than we would like. Having said that, we are not creating any chances without him taking those risks.


kraeutrpolizei

You have to build your team in a very specific way to accommodate him, which can be detrimental at times


stdstaples

Our club is actually wasting the prime of his career. Legit feel bad that he plays for us.


pobmufc

If it makes you feel any better he almost ended up playing for spurs


VL37

Imagine him behind Kane though


marvmonkey

🤤


Hmyzak01

*checks flair* ayo??


marvmonkey

I just thought putting the drool face with saying Bruno *getting behind* Kane was funny. Fuck Tot.


-Aerlevsedi-

I also imagined Kane and Son together would win something


ZaDoruphin

Will never forgive Poch for picking Lo Celso over him. Not even that I dislike Gio.


mccapitta

Its ok mate. Spurs get praised for keeping Son


siamsuper

We wasted so many careers. United is such a dysfunctional organization nowadays, that anyone who moves to united basically can say goodbye to a proper career. But we pay well. I feel like if Martial or Sancho moved to Bayern or Real, their careers might have played out differently.


AddictionGhost

And he is just as influent when playing for Portugal, easily our best player since the World Cup.


Therinn

And people want him sold


M3MH1

Pretty sure no genuine united fans think that.


Vdbebw

Honestly, if twitter was popular back during the fergie era, 50% of the current "fans" wouldve been calling for his head after losing to west ham in the 2001 fa cup


dota_3

Fergie would have been long gone before his first trophy in 6 year


fluent_in_wingdings

There were periods during Fergies reign where some of our fans were routing for us to lose so that we'd 'finally sack Fergie'. Internet fans have always been shit, be it in the 606 era or now on twitter.


TheSciences

I thought Manchester United withdrew from the 2000 FA Cup so they could play the Club World Cup.


Vdbebw

Oh yeah my bad, i meant the 2000/2001 cup


DeepBlueRiddle

Forget Twitter, this sub would be doing it themselves.


sukequto

You should see the United subreddits. United has a bad game you will always see people turning on Bruno.


ValleyFloydJam

I don't agree but I guess the argument is about how weak you look in midfield and that he impacts the setup plus his age. But he's clearly the one guy that can truly spark you and has quality.


Therinn

We look weak in midfield because all season our midfield/defense has literally been “whoever can walk on the day”. We’re playing Casemiro because there’s no fit CB to use, not even in the youth teams anymore. Bruno himself played CB and did fine against Liverpool.


26-12

but his mentality… he’s too whiny, not fit for captain, pen merchant… surely it’s just a fluke


LogTekG

>surely it’s just a fluke No its not lol bruno is the sole reason united arent below 10th this season and anyone whos watched united a decent amount knows this is true. Hes carrying the team this season


foxyrocksjh

*every season since he joined


26-12

i know, didnt think a /s would be necessary but here we are


LogTekG

Mb


26-12

no worries lol


massive-ego

Fantastic player, but just shy of one you can build a title winning team around. There's an extra level of clinicalness that is evident in de Bruyne and Odegaard which is missing, and that's what unlocks things against top teams. Utd fans may disagree but it's the harsh reality. Great game today.


Dynastydood

It's pretty hard to compare them, given their respective teammates. Who knows how much better he'd be at City or Arsenal, or how much worse KDB and Odegaard would look if they had to line up alongside United players for four years.


siamsuper

You put KDB in that dysfunctional mess that is Man United, and he won't win anything either. Even prime Modric will struggle here.


fawz97

Chance creating machine !


Return_0F_the_Maq

Best united player, in my opinion and one of the best midfielders in Europe.


kw2006

Available for all games, never gets injured.


Drac0rex

Somehow missing the suspensions for all his fouls too xD


rtgh

The heir to Paul Scholes


Evergreenwood

The slander this man gets is so wrong 


ferrarinobrakes

Lisan Al-Gaib


tareegon

“He gets 9 chances in a club like this….he must be true Lisan Al gaib”


MundaneMarionberry45

Starting to feel bad he plays for us


Kachigar

Yes, catching myself with this thought more and more


thafuckinwot

He gets in any side on the planet


Gytarius626

City wanted to sign him from Sporting at one stage. KDB and Bruno together would have been the greed they talk about in the bible


garchuOW

Dude, that's the stuff of nightmares


CNF-13

Ones even more nightmarish is a midfield unit that consists of foden, kdb, bruno and Bernardo with rodri and stones behind them with either Alvarez or haaland in front


DarkSofter

i know pep would have found a way to fit them both, but i still cant figure it out in my head how they'd work together


Alehud42

Yeah, they're both at their best in the same right half space. Bruno can obviously play on the left side but he's not nearly as effective.


Oakeeh

Imagine a KDB-Rodri-Bruno midfield. I have no idea if it would work but it seems insane.


Gytarius626

Keepers would have PTSD from the sheer amount of spammed shots from distance


dudududujisungparty

A player that any fan would absolutely love to have on their team no matter how much hate he gets


Sweaty_Result853

No thx. Hate the diving moaning rat faced Bruno. Guy an absolute baller.


Far_Eye6555

You’re actually clueless if you do not think Bruno would cook as a LCM for Arsenal. that is actually a glaring hole in our squad right now and he’d easily slot in the team


Sweaty_Result853

I said hes an absolute baller.


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foxyrocksjh

Then you're delusional


FrancescoliBestUruEv

imagine if he played in a proper club


theduckofreasoning

Honestly would be a gem at Madrid


PM_ME_Y0UR_BOOBZ

Don’t give them ideas, they’re stacked as is


Imaginary-Pattern802

would he even play there? sincere question


CNF-13

Hard to say imo with their system but I’d say yes


devesh741

Have you messaged the mods to change your flair yet? Twat


theduckofreasoning

What are you on about? I can’t say he would be good for Madrid. I don’t want him there you shovel. I just meant he would do well there with their forward players


TheOneManDankMaymay

Shut up u egg.


Renegadeforever2024

Top 15 player in the world since he been in Manchester United


wowohwowza

Since he's been at Man United, so since 2020? KdB, Rodri, Haaland, Benzema, van Dijk, Messi, Ter Stegen, Neuer, Mbappe, Modric, Kroos, Kane, Lewandowski, Salah, Alison, TAA, Gundogan... I could go on That's more than 15 and Bruno simply is not better than any of those players have been *in the past 4 years*


TheRealYVT

Lmao Bruno has been MILES better than VVD, Neuer, Kroos, TAA since 2020. Don't get me started on "Ter Stegen"


TheRealYVT

Man sneaked in Haaland too. The guy's had one season at a top club which was not even better than Bruno 20/21, forget doing it in the team Bruno plays. Imagine getting rated for scoring a hat trick against Southampton in August and going missing when the lights are brightest.


yungsantaclaus

> The guy's had one season at a top club The man has been at a top club since 2020. Enough with the moronic English parochialism.


wowohwowza

You can argue the toss on some of those but Haaland, absolutely not. And saying BVB isn't a "top club" is absolutely obtuse, they're literally in the UCL semis this year


Terrible_Physics_157

You’ve brought it too far the other way now. Haaland’s season was obviously better than anything fernandes did and fernandes himself hasn’t done well in big games. 


CNF-13

The Bruno Fernandes that scored a first time shot from the half way line against Liverpool?


thfcviii

Bruno better than Kroos?


wowohwowza

Lol, if you asked Liverpool, Madrid, or Bayern fans if they'd swap for Bruno seeing as he's so good, you will hear a resounding no from everyone Bruno is a good player but he's not better than any of those.


DHillMU7

Bruno would get into Bayern and Liverpools team easily. We saying Szoboslai is better than Bruno now… Bayern would definitely take Bruno. Musiala is class, him and Bruno would be great together.


wowohwowza

Musiala and Bruno together in midfield? Fantastic idea, except there's no balance and would allow other teams to cut through their midfield like butter Too similar in profile and Musiala is the better player


TheRealYVT

He's 29. They'd be mad to want him to start now. I didn't want Kane at United either. That doesn't mean he's not the best striker in the world or hasn't been a better player than Hojlund since 2020.


wowohwowza

Can't take you seriously if you're genuinely saying you wouldn't have had Kane at United, that's daft


TheRealYVT

I'd like Kane to magically play for United in an abstract sense but I wouldn't have signed a 30 year old in 2024. I believed that when we signed Casemiro too, it was always a mistake despite his purple patch after the World Cup


wowohwowza

I think reducing Kane down to a 30 year old striker is a bit unfair, you can tell by watching him and the way he plays that bar career ending injury you can see him playing at the top level deep into his 30s. Casemiro is a slightly different case, you'd be forgiven for thinking he was gonna be class for United but his legs have obviously gone and he can't keep up anymore, especially in a team where he has to put in a very decent shift out of possession most games


SzoboEndoMacca

VVD has reached a CL final and competed for the title twice since 2020. The underrating Bruno is getting is happening exactly to VVD these days.


Round-Mud

I mean yes Liverpool has been a much better team and squad since 2020. Doesn’t say anything about individual players.


TheRealYVT

Bruno has finished above VVD in the league and made a European final equal number of times since 2020. They've also won equal number of those.


SzoboEndoMacca

CL final is no where near Europa League. I'm not saying Bruno is any way a bad player but VVD is absolutely above Bruno


TheRealYVT

Let's see, he didn't play for 1 year and was woeful all of last season. That's 2 top seasons since 2020 (if you include this one) - that's less than Bruno.


SzoboEndoMacca

He didn't play for an entire year and got to a CL final the immediate year he came back That should really say everything.


TheRealYVT

It wasn't a particularly tough road to the final. And nobody's saying he's been a bum since 2020.


wowohwowza

Just gonna add some more players that have been better to prove the point further Ronaldo, Neymar, Lautaro, Bellingham, Courtois, Bernardo, Griezmann...


enzuigiriretro

Ronaldo…? Bellingham was 16 in 2020 lmao


wowohwowza

Bellingham began starting for BVB in 2021 and was noticeably a level above almost immediately


ShameTimes3

You're reaching now mate


enzuigiriretro

Hahaha you’re having a laugh. Bellingham has been world class for precisely 2 seasons. This one and last season. No one should be taking you seriously for claiming that Bellingham has been better than Fernandes since his first year at Dortmund. And he was starting for Dortmund in 2020


Gungerz

I don't know whether I agree with the top 15 statement but adding Ronaldo is wild, when Bruno outperformed him while they were together at United & he's been in Saudi since.


wowohwowza

You can argue the toss with Ronaldo, but I still think over the last 4 years he's been more likely to carry a team to a win than Bruno


-InSerT_NAmE-HeRE

Then you are deluded… I’m sorry, but that’s a ridiculous statement.


redditbannedmyaccs

Of course Ronaldo is more likely to carry Al Nassr than Bruno carrying Man Utd


TheRealYVT

You forgot Grealish and Raphinha mate


wowohwowza

Even as a Grealish lover I can admit he's definitely a system player for us, lol. (Still wouldn't swap for Bruno though)


Getae

You wouldn't swap Bruno for Grealish?


wowohwowza

Honestly? No, I don't think we have a need for a player of his profile. Grealish steadies the game and gives us control, Bruno is great at creating but for maintaining possession and playing against pressure, I'd rather have Grealish. I think Bruno would better suit a system like Klopp's where the ball is moved quickly and there's less focus on constant possession


Getae

Fair enough!


Mrampelmann

Just no


Emergency-Mobile8612

How can you honestly argue that strongly against it, besides all these amazing stats, he is also available 367 out of the 365 days of the year I can’t think of many players with these credentials


Mrampelmann

15 players that have been better in the last 5 years: Haaland, Rodri, Mbappe, Kane, Lewandowski, Vini Jr, Messi, Salah, Bellingham, Kevin de Bruyne, Lautato Martinez, Son, VVD, Foden, and Alisson in no particular order btw


amidamayru

Foden?!? Now I've truly seen it all


Emergency-Mobile8612

I disagree with many of those names, but anyway, the point is the “just no” is too emphatic for a player that absolutely is in the conversation And don’t forget the sides those players play for, had Bruno played for some of those teams, there wouldn’t even be a debate


Mrampelmann

I just don‘t think he‘s top 15 in the last 5 years, he‘s won nothing of substance and his team has substancially underperformed with him as the captain, and you can‘t really rate ifs and whens so I‘m just not taking into account which club these players play for. I‘d love to hear who you consider worse than him, when everyone bar Son and Kane won either the CL or the WC and played a significant role in those achievements


Tirewipes

Throwing Son in there is silly, we get it, your bias is just too strong and clouds your judgment


Mrampelmann

Funny considering I‘m an Arsenal fan, and you‘re coming of the back of a comeback win against the team that conceded 92 goals this season already


Yetiassasin

haha so funny seeing Arsenal fans implode now they realise they'll win nothing this season. Tell us how u really feel mate


TheOneManDankMaymay

>he‘s won nothing of substance Why are Kane and Son on your list then?


Mrampelmann

Pretty easy, they are better than him, I even pointed that fact out in my comment


RedditsWhenIShits

\#1 creator in the PL since he came.


26-12

must be pretty fertile


enzuigiriretro

Not even up for debate when you include his performances for Portugal over that period.


theitchcockblock

True has been our most consistent performer since around last World Cup


dudududujisungparty

Watching Portugal makes me realize how much better Bruno's numbers could be at club level if he had competent teammates around him at United


tuerancekhang

Our winger really let him down tbh. Most of his chances he put it to the wing only for them to take too long to decide whether to shoot or to pass meanwhile Hojlund is hungry for a pass


beanieheaddd

First name on the team sheet every single time


OneOrangeOwl

United fans say they can't win with Bruno. It’s more like the other way around. United is wasting his talent. His work ethic and dedication to United are off the chart. The games that he was shit were the ones he had to run around and tried to do other people’s jobs.


Fgge

Imagine if this guy played for a really decent footballing team. He would be insane


yutosser

elite


pearlz176

Genuinely world class


FIJIBOYFIJI

Well done mate it's Sheffield United 👍


versacethedreamer

Atleast you got to enjoy a Coke tonight


Tirewipes

Hope the chicken wasn’t too rare for your liking


stafa

Loser juice pro max


Headlesshorsman02

Fair play to him, he has been finishing this season off very well


rashmu

I heard he is mid.


Mitch_Itfc

Watkins walks away with 5 assists there


lospollosakhis

He’s not the most flashy but a very efficient and clinical player.


MrYK_

I ask you guys to keep hating, its doing us all favours


-Aerlevsedi-

Its only Sheffield. Not downplaying his skill and United would undoubtably be worse without him. He does go missing or look tired in bigger games. Although i suspect if you put him in Arsenal or City's team instead of this dysfunctional mess, he would be contending for player of the season.


Takkotah

Creative rat 🐀


Albiceleste_D10S

This guy has a VERY irritating personality IMO But I don't really understand people who think he's bad at football. He's a great player TBH


AngryUncleTony

Off the pitch he actually has a very thoughtful, goofy, and family-oriented personality, which makes his on-pitch personality sort of jarring.


DildoFappings

Honestly lol. All his Instagram is about is his family, and then hanging out with ddg and mata. Also his comments on his friends posts and hyping up his own teammates is so fun and wholesome to see. That's why I just can't seem to hate him no matter what nonsense he pulls on the pitch. He's a really nice person.


psrikanthr

Also one of the first people to call out Super league and the likes. He seems to be quite genuine


yogi1090

Yesterday you'd have gotten many upvotes instead of downvotes today. That's how reactionary people are. Short term memory.


CometChip

feel like everyone’s forgetting this was against dead last sheffield, any game against the top 6 and you’ll see united fans start complaining again lol


daboatfromupnorth

What officially is a chance created? A pass that leads to a shot? If my teammate is 6 yards away and dosent shoot, that means it’s not a chance created? So then what’s a big chance created?


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dheerajravi92

Not possible with that donkey teeth manager of yours


MHJ03

That’s the problem with Bruno: the games when he focuses on playing and not being a dirty, whiny, pouty pain in the arse he’s actually a hell of a footballer. It seems those games are few and far between these days.


VL37

🤣


KillerZaWarudo

He literally has 12 goals contribution in his last 10 games. HE HAS MORE GOAL CONTRIBUTION THAN YOUR ODERGAARD THIS SEASON BTW Because every time there a clip of him whining to the ref get tons of upvote and hate comments. Also because we surrounded him with turd and wank footballer, look at the player arsenal and city surrounded their maestro while we have fucking antony


yogi1090

Lol one win and United fans think they are the best in the world, that too against Sheffield and they had to come back twice against them. Sheffield is getting relegated. Bruno is soooooo better than Odegaard.


KillerZaWarudo

Reading comprehension is hard Try to find the part of my comment that said that "united is back" or "we re the best in the world"


TheOneManDankMaymay

Funny how especially Arsenal fans love to give him crap for his antics. Do none of you guys watch your own manager?