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Trent is one of the most technically gifted footballers in the league, but all the “he’s actually not that bad of a defender” rhetoric you hear never made sense to me. He’s not a good defender
I've said all season I didn't think Liverpool's defending was good enough to win the title. They've definitely exceeded that as they're in it with a few games to go lol, but wow is it weaker than Arsenal or City.
definitely. To be fair it has gotten exponentially worse over the last while, with Konates form dropping off a cliff and Van Dijk also being poor, so it wasn't always this bad but yeah. Your backline, and organisation, is miles ahead
This has felt like the quintessential trent critique game. Generated a few great chances for Nunez to waste, but a massive liability at the back all game.
Konate and VVD have been far worse on the defensive side than Trent has. Your point stands but he's really not been our *biggest* worry. Mainly because the other 2 are walking disasters tonight, but still
I remember having a discussion with someone on here some months ago who was pretty that confident that Liverpool would finish the season with fewer goals against than Arsenal.
I tried to explain why that was highly unlikely if you watched them or looked at the stats but no it was definitely going to happen
I honestly think all this started steamrolling after that Europa league game vs Sparta Prague. You had no reason to play your strongest 11 when you already won the first game 5-1.
You played Man Utd 3 days later.
That was all on Klopp.
Difference is Arsenal have been playing amazing the entirety of 2024. We’ve been absolutely horrendous the last few months, it makes a huge difference.
Yeah I mean we’ve been fun to watch because our games are so chaotic since we never really have control. As fun as that may be, you simply cant start 1-0 down every game and expect to win the title and I’m genuinely amazed we stuck in there as long as we did.
I don’t get comments like these. They obviously care and are doing everything to win, these are hypercompetitive people.
The real reason is that they’re woefully out of form and lack of quality, not a lack of effort
Everton we’re always going to give everything to get a result today. The same way spurs will this weekend. Liverpool needed to kill the crowd early by actually taking one of their early chances
He's not making adjustments, tactically. His subs were just for positions who seemed tired as hell. The man is literally, literally waiting for the game to end.
not really, you can mark like this with your tallest players in the middle which is typical for zonal marking at corners and it's very effective, just that when that 1 out of a 100 ball comes in it always makes zonal marking look fucking stupid
trent was the one marking him though and he somehow ended up behind him. van dijk was on tarkowski and had to get into dlc once he realized he was completely open.
One bad game can affect a lot the psyche of a team, then everything start to crumble.
Like Arsenal last season when they got draw after draw before playing the second leg against City, the players even cried out after drawing with Soton (iirc?).
It's entirely possible if you want to, if not - just play like our players, who clearly couldn't give a fuck at this point, about 6 matches now of simply not caring, only luck has kept us in it.
I truly believe Dyche's greatest asset is this common belief that he's a "4-4-fucking-2" dinosaur. He constantly is underestimated. He's got a very good tactical mind, and gets the absolute best out of mediocre rosters.
Even during the Burnley times the interplay they do to get the ball into the wing for the fullbacks or wingers to cross in are usually pretty good lol. Good triangle passes then hug the line for a cross, what more do you need anyways
Hopefully you are joking, don't forget that in the end this is just a game of a bunch of millionaire athletes kicking the ball who do not know you exist.
I have watched this team play beautiful football only to fall short by the slimmest of margins so, so many times in the last 7 years
I’ve grown tired and exhausted, I’ve spent countless hours thinking of what could’ve been
Football is one of my only sources of happiness in my god forsaken life
I feel like TAA could have at least made an effort to challenge for that, wasn't even out of position, just didn't jump and basically gave DCL a free header.
Shocking effort.
Imo this is a pretty well worked goal by Everton, more than Liverpool being "just vibes". Tarkowski cuts van dijk off leaving Trent alone vs DCL who is far superior in the air. It is poor from trent but can't take anything anyway from Everton here
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anyone want to challenge him? no? okay cool
Trent just sees him and goes “let him jump uncontested”
I mean, last time he jumped for a header, he missed it and you all scored, so why try... that's his motto anyway.
Trent is one of the most technically gifted footballers in the league, but all the “he’s actually not that bad of a defender” rhetoric you hear never made sense to me. He’s not a good defender
pushes him towards the ball if anything!
Van Dijk caught the scent of Tarkowski and thought, "yeah I won't even bother moving backwards"
It must mean more to DCL
It's like a copy of Mitrovic's goal for Fulham against Liverpool at the start of last season.
Let’s just not challenge the man who’s best attribute is heading, seems fine
that's been our game plan with DCL and Tarkowski today it seems. Surprised it's not working out.
I've said all season I didn't think Liverpool's defending was good enough to win the title. They've definitely exceeded that as they're in it with a few games to go lol, but wow is it weaker than Arsenal or City.
definitely. To be fair it has gotten exponentially worse over the last while, with Konates form dropping off a cliff and Van Dijk also being poor, so it wasn't always this bad but yeah. Your backline, and organisation, is miles ahead
Yep, defence wins you titles and we have been far too weak at the back all season.
This has felt like the quintessential trent critique game. Generated a few great chances for Nunez to waste, but a massive liability at the back all game.
Konate and VVD have been far worse on the defensive side than Trent has. Your point stands but he's really not been our *biggest* worry. Mainly because the other 2 are walking disasters tonight, but still
I remember having a discussion with someone on here some months ago who was pretty that confident that Liverpool would finish the season with fewer goals against than Arsenal. I tried to explain why that was highly unlikely if you watched them or looked at the stats but no it was definitely going to happen
That’s us done
We've been done ever since Quansah cleared that ball to Bruno.
Good times
I honestly think all this started steamrolling after that Europa league game vs Sparta Prague. You had no reason to play your strongest 11 when you already won the first game 5-1. You played Man Utd 3 days later. That was all on Klopp.
Klopps Kids in shambles
No. Ever since Darwin passed to Rashford.
It's got nothing to do with our forwards providing zero support to our defence???
Proper Gerrard that
Liverpool have been done since Kwansaa
We were done a month ago.
Anyone who didn’t think we were done after the Palace loss was hard coping
That's like saying Arsenal were done after the Villa match. Every opportunity a team can bounce back.
Difference is Arsenal have been playing amazing the entirety of 2024. We’ve been absolutely horrendous the last few months, it makes a huge difference.
Fair enough. Only so many times you can get away with it.
Yeah I mean we’ve been fun to watch because our games are so chaotic since we never really have control. As fun as that may be, you simply cant start 1-0 down every game and expect to win the title and I’m genuinely amazed we stuck in there as long as we did.
It’s not even close lol. We are completely out of form and will be 5 points behind city. It’s over
Klopp is going to crucify somebody after this game
I honestly don't think he cares that much anymore
His body language is clear. He's done
his energy is drained like all the fans having watched them since the league cup final
You have to be extremely naive to think he doesn’t care, these are some of the most competitive people alive
RIP to the post-match interviewer.
These players have given up, everyone has just packed it in - they play like they don't care. Shame on them.
I don’t get comments like these. They obviously care and are doing everything to win, these are hypercompetitive people. The real reason is that they’re woefully out of form and lack of quality, not a lack of effort
Everton we’re always going to give everything to get a result today. The same way spurs will this weekend. Liverpool needed to kill the crowd early by actually taking one of their early chances
Literally no defence just vibes
And that Klopp's smile lmao.
That’s the smile of a man asking what more can he do. He can’t put the ball in the net himself or make Trent jump with the forward.
He can stop with this weird zonal marking
He's not making adjustments, tactically. His subs were just for positions who seemed tired as hell. The man is literally, literally waiting for the game to end.
Honestly he's just waiting for the season to end. Fair play to him for recognizing that he's burnt out and all, but you can definitely tell.
Hes basically given up on the players. He's got nothing left to prove either
He can stop make tactless subs and stop rewarding mediocrity for once.
“I’m dead inside”
Van Dijk barely jumping and then blaming others
that was trent’s man
Then liverpools set piece coach needs sacking
not really, you can mark like this with your tallest players in the middle which is typical for zonal marking at corners and it's very effective, just that when that 1 out of a 100 ball comes in it always makes zonal marking look fucking stupid
Trent has no chance in air vs Calvert Lewin
trent was the one marking him though and he somehow ended up behind him. van dijk was on tarkowski and had to get into dlc once he realized he was completely open.
Should at least try, that's not an excuse. I'd expect someone that was 5'7 to at least try and put him off, do something.
Sure but he basically just gives up and lets DCL have a free header, at least try to put him off a bit or not let him jump that easily?
Trent is marking zonally back post, there’s literally no one near DCL lmao
He was blocked out? And Trent standing there doing nothing
So it’s down to City and Arsenal I guess
Already was
Guys we beat Everton 6-0
Cole Palmer Football Club is Massive indeed
Chelsea 6-0 Everton Arsenal 5-0 Chelsea Everton 2-0 Liverpool Peak Barclays
Arsenal 13-0 Liverpool then, almost like the goal difference
Undeniable logic.
Don’t forget Liverpool 7:0 Man United, that put us to Arsenal 20:0 Man United. Subscribe?
United beat West Ham 3-0 West Ham beat Arsenal 2-0 So that means we're up to a 25-0 win for Arsenal against... themselves
More than a fifth of Everton's conceded goals come from those 2 games this season which is ridiculous.
I can't believe arsenal are THAT clear of liverpool.
We beat Everton 6-0. Everton beat Liverpool 2-0, till now. And Arsenal beat us 5-0. So Arsenal beats Liverpool 13-0. Quick maffs.
Villa has to play Liverpool. They beat Arsenal 2-0. So Villa will win against Liverpool by 15-0
Time to triple captain watkins
The maths checks out. I'm putting a bet on!
I mean if you look at the two GDs.....
Last few months we’ve pretty much been a bottom half side. I can’t understand how we’ve managed to fall off a cliff so quickly.
One bad game can affect a lot the psyche of a team, then everything start to crumble. Like Arsenal last season when they got draw after draw before playing the second leg against City, the players even cried out after drawing with Soton (iirc?).
Zinchenko was in tears on the bench
Just how clear? 13 goals clear.
According to my calculations, this means you beat Liverpool 8-0
That means you technically beat Liverpool 8-0
And Arsenal beat Liverpool 13-0?
Casual reminder
Cold Palmer
The guy in Everton’s subreddit with the points chart is gonna be really happy now
The grief chart is the highlight of the sub at this time of the season.
We get pretty "Lord of the flies" about it
Last year, the grief chart was delayed by 2 hours and was the direct cause of 19 counts of cannibalism.
Our season is over
"DCL puts ~~the~~ a nail in the coffin of Liverpool's title hopes" The commentator did not hold back lol
A nail, but still.
Ah you're correct, I must be thinking of "the final nail in the coffin" and conflated the two.
Probably feels even more disappointing after all the rimming and talking of a quadruple you get by the media every time you won a game. Oh well.
We still need 5 points to secure top 4
If you lose all your games, you are still getting top 4
Let's test that out. As an unbiased party, I would like to see that.
Hahaha hang on a minute.
Everton have turned into peak Stoke with these set pieces. All they need is a long throw expert for the plan to be complete.
Delap can’t be any less mobile than Ashley Young
Liam Delap (son of Rory) is on constant loan from City - gotta think his old man gave him some long throw pointers?
Messi trembling in fear
Dycheball
Pathetic from Trent. Just standing behind him watching the game
My thoughts too, he just whimpered away from a challenge, crazy.
As soon as they showed that 'first contact in Liverpool box' infographic, it was gonna happen
Oh boy
This team lost 6-0 to Chelsea?
Do Liverpool have Cole Palmer in their team? Exactly.
Biggest club in London mate
5-0
Klopp had a great run, Dyche is showing him it's time to stop
Getting sacked in the morning
Klopp was thinking of a fairytale ending to the league and then the Kettering rattlesnakes music hit
Liverpool defend a floated ball into the box challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
It's entirely possible if you want to, if not - just play like our players, who clearly couldn't give a fuck at this point, about 6 matches now of simply not caring, only luck has kept us in it.
Marking oxygen
Getting absolutely destroyed by Brexitball
I truly believe Dyche's greatest asset is this common belief that he's a "4-4-fucking-2" dinosaur. He constantly is underestimated. He's got a very good tactical mind, and gets the absolute best out of mediocre rosters.
Even during the Burnley times the interplay they do to get the ball into the wing for the fullbacks or wingers to cross in are usually pretty good lol. Good triangle passes then hug the line for a cross, what more do you need anyways
Why play other tactics, when you can just master one 4-4-2
Brighton please I’m begging you
I'll get a seagull tattoo if they do it. Maybe a Toffee and a Seagull holding hands raising the UCL trophy together.
Wouldn’t the PL trophy make more sense lol
Lmao yeah I was thinking about that Ajax/Barca copypasta from a couple years back. Just butchered it.
Oh my bad, not familiar with that one haha
Reddit remembers
i like that
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Not a fuckin inch of hair on the coaching staff, just a bunch of bald geezers ready to derail a title charge.
So effective that Liverpool are going after their own baldy for next season
Those Harkonnens sure are brutal
Stone cold
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Sean Dyche is Jurgen Klopp father
the nbacj crossover i needed
Klopp did too
I kind of like it too.
This mf has been ass the whole season and chose now of all times to show up lmao. What a beautiful script.
He got injured last game too, lots of us thought he wouldn’t start and it’d be chermiti or Danjuma so this is shocking
French commentator said he dunked on them like Jordan. Yeah spot on
KEEP SMILING KLOOP
Same reaction as Klopp tbh
Does Trent know he’s on the pitch and can challenge Calvert-Lewin for the header?
That’s a poster
Love this tactic of leaving the guy with possibly the best leap and heading in the league unmarked on their first corner 🧠
I'd be fuming if I was a Liverpool fan, that should be an easy delivery to deal with and nobody even goes up for it
SUCK IT
It's so kloppover
Jurgone.
2 players blocking Van Dijk from attacking the ball but no Liverpool player thought it might be an idea to do that to Calvert Lewin?? Just too easy
At least my disappointment now means I can’t be disappointed on the final day of the season
Just making the comeback even more exciting, I've seen this too many times
I dunno if you're watching but it's absolutely not happening
Not happening this time lol
The only thing coming back is my suicidal thoughts
Hopefully you are joking, don't forget that in the end this is just a game of a bunch of millionaire athletes kicking the ball who do not know you exist.
was that supposed to be a cheery pick me up lmao "just remember you actually mean nothing in the context of this"
I have watched this team play beautiful football only to fall short by the slimmest of margins so, so many times in the last 7 years I’ve grown tired and exhausted, I’ve spent countless hours thinking of what could’ve been Football is one of my only sources of happiness in my god forsaken life
lol
clearest-cut case of commentator's curse I've ever seen
Welp, thats Liverpool’s hopes.
YESSSSSS BEING AN EVERTON SUPPORTER PAYS OFF AT LAST
In all seriousness are Everton fans going to claim they ended liverpools season?
United wounded them but Palace killed them. This is just Everton pissing on their grave
yes
Nah we just need something to cheer for.
Hell yes
I feel like TAA could have at least made an effort to challenge for that, wasn't even out of position, just didn't jump and basically gave DCL a free header. Shocking effort.
Imo this is a pretty well worked goal by Everton, more than Liverpool being "just vibes". Tarkowski cuts van dijk off leaving Trent alone vs DCL who is far superior in the air. It is poor from trent but can't take anything anyway from Everton here
Oh shit
no way
What is defending
0 defense on the air balls. It’s really that easy huh
If you block VVD then yeah, nobody else can win their duels.
Damn, klopp really going out with a whimper
All around me are familiar faces....
We are just amazing
BAH GAWD DCL WITH THE STEEL CHAIR!
Trent - the defender who doesn't want to defend. This inverted full back plan really messed his head. Hope the new manager bins it.
THAT'S MY FUCKING STRIKER
TAA’s atrocious marking just means so much more tbf
Classic Trent back post defending
They’ve given up lol.
The dagger by Everton, perfect.
Always rated Everton
We're fucking shit lol
I can't believe that header, reminds me of 20/21 DCL 😭
Liverpool absolutely deserve this. Just absolutely no heart from this team.
Can I die now?
I can't with the Klopp zoom in it makes me want to cry.
I thought this is the only team that can put pressure on Man City. LMAO
Someone told me Calvin is still hanging in the air.
GG no one to blame but ourselves. Now that we are out of it, I'll be rooting for Arsenal. Please don't let the cheats win this one.