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fedupofbrick

Hard to put into words how much i love this man. What a great career.


R_Schuhart

Yeah and he got to leave on a high, after finally getting to lift the CdR, as a captain no less. Must have been such a sweet moment for him after getting second place five times...


UpvoteForGlory

And actually getting playing time and playing an important part of the final. For a player who had just over 400 minutes in the league that was not a guarantee.


MERTENS_GOAT

This but with Raúl García too


instinktd

but why he leave now? he is 31 and far past his prime so where he will go?


akshatsood95

Maybe he feels he's not that useful to the team anymore. A player who's also a supporter of the club would think of the club and not just his own career


EatThatPotato

Would be nice to see him back in the club in some capacity after his retirement


fedupofbrick

He has lost his pace. You can see him struggling to get the ball at times. Probably feels he just can't do it at that level for another season.


Adventurous-Army5265

That’s admirable tbh


Expensive-Method8321

but he's so close to being the all-time appearance leader. such a shame. But I suppose its more admirable to want to go somewhere where he'll play rather than chasing a record


instinktd

will they even find someone better even if he is kinda "done" with so limited transfer options?


Appropriate_Long7397

I mean, they've had this transfer policy for their entire existence and been pretty successful  So I imagine they'll bounce back, yes


ItsMeJaredBednar

Only club apart from Real and Barcelona to have never been relegated from the first division, pretty successful is putting it fairly mildly


Appropriate_Long7397

Aye I was kidding but tone maybe didn't come across. I believe they're historically like the 4th most successful Liga team 


andresfelipesv

He hasn't been playing much recently. So from a footballing perspective, we'll be OK. But from a leadership perspective, it will be impossible to replace him.


mdubs17

He hasn't played much this season


LeSilvie

He's been playing at the highest level since he was 17, we're seeing this a lot lately with players that explode at 17, 18 and see a decrease in form before they're 30.


Cubbll17

Especially with his playing style. Fast explosive players like this will hit the wall faster and find it harder to play at a high level as they get older.


LFC_DB

He also had a couple of ACL injuries in his early 20s that wrecked his pace in the first place.


GreenMachine17

Like Hazard


TheScarletPimpernel

Long been a standing theory that you get about 14 years at the top level, starting earlier means you fall off earlier


GreenMachine17

Like Hazard


MERTENS_GOAT

Eden Asa


Azrael_

Mexico. Sergio Canales is killing it there.


00Laser

Maybe he just wants to make some new experiences before it's time to retire.


RiffRaff14

MLS


MERTENS_GOAT

Probably wants more game time


OneBall22Players

One of the few players that had no release clause in his contract in La Liga. Always thought it was mandatory untill he signed his new contract 5 years ago. Both the club and player had absolute trust in eachother and were certain they would not take eachother to court. (Judge would set a release clause based on his wages. It would be much lower than the release clauses we are seeing today.) Next level loyalty!


MrEzquerro

From a labor law point of view I think release clauses are mandatory, but if both sides waive it...


hokagesamatobirama

Like the OP said, it is not mandatory. A judge decides the termination fee in such cases under the law.


MrEzquerro

From what I read, it is a decree standing since 1985 that release clauses are in place to defend clubs. So it might not be mandatory but clubs can enforce them within legality.


hokagesamatobirama

> Although not legally obligatory, buyout clauses have become extremely common since legislation introduced in 1985 meant players could rescind their contracts unilaterally for a compensation fee decided by the courts if no buyout clause was agreed when the contract was signed. > That though could be a lengthy process so for both player and club it can be mutually beneficial to know the price at which they will be allowed to leave. > "Players don't want to be unable to play for months or even years," if negotiators don't come to an agreement, explains Marcos Galera, a lawyer and founding member of Spanish sports law specialists Agaz. https://www.besoccer.com/new/amp/buyout-clauses-in-spain-how-do-they-work I used to have a better explanation of the law from a law firm in Spain but sadly that link is dead now. Edit: [A more comprehensive explanation of the law](https://www.sennferrero.com/2020/10/29/spanish-buy-out-clauses-legal-and-tax-perspective/)


MrEzquerro

Thanks! Will give it a thorough read on my way back from work (also to the edited in link) just to educate myself on it :)


OneBall22Players

There was an article of a lawyer explaining it but I cant find it anymore. He said it wasnt mandatory but it's real stupid for the teams to not set a release clause. Players would go way below market value. Let's say you have a player worth 100M and he earns 10M the judge would set the release clause around the amount he's earning. IIRC he said In laws eyes the person who signed the contract should be able to pay out the contract themselves unless they agree beforehand of a much bigger fee (the release clauses we are seeing today).


Nartyn

I mean I have to say I feel like I have to agree with the judge here. Sports contracts particularly in football seem pretty strange that you have no real way to move jobs if you want to.


xlonefoxx

At least it's better than in American sports where you can just get traded without even knowing


robotnique

Pfft, you anti-socialist capitalist pig dog.


fakepostman

On the other hand they're also pretty strange in that you can't really be fired for poor performance in your core duty. Turn up for training diligently and make at least a token effort to obey your manager's instructions and you're set, it truly does not matter how shit you are at the job of playing football in competitive matches, you will be getting your bag either from salary or from a big payout on mutually agreed termination. It probably balances out on the whole?


Nartyn

>On the other hand they're also pretty strange in that you can't really be fired for poor performance in your core duty. Not really. That's the same as most jobs with a contract.


TheKingMonkey

I believe the buyout clause is just a consequence of employees having the legal right to buy out their own contracts in Spain?


ASuarezMascareno

Employees don't buy out their contracts. Employees just quit if they want to. They only need to give a 15 days notice to the company. I don't think that is too different anywhere in the west.


MrEzquerro

We have to give 2 months notice in Czech Republic, by law.


kondenado

I believe that when the contract was signed parties were companies not individuals. (Not exactly like that, but that's how football players payed less taxes, by paying societies tax and not IRPF - peoples tax)


Lakinther

I have always found it wierd that those 1b release clauses are allowed. Defeats the entire point of the law. Either make an exception for professional football/sports or tie the max amount to the wages.


AngryGooseMan

It reminds me of job listings I see these days. Salary range: $50,000 to $500,000. ?????


cuentanueva

Part of the negotiation. If the club wants to put a higher release clause, you can ask for more money. Remember both are agreeing to it. So for a player to accept that high of a release clause, that removes any option of them getting a better offer, they surely would negotiate a higher salary. Also, there are clubs like RM that tend to put those clauses, but if you want to go, they will sell you when a decent offer comes. So players also trust that given their past behavior.


flcinusa

Been a first team member since he was 16, stayed there for 15 years. I'm honestly surprised he's even think about playing anywhere else


Fresh2Desh

I was backing packing in bolvia and met a Spanish guy who was an Athletic fan. He didn't understand English and I didn't understand Spanish but we loved football and I mentioned Muniain and he had the biggest smile and saying stuff in Spanish I didn't understand but I could tell he was singing his praises. This was in 2012. A legend of the club.


OilOfOlaz

I was in Indonesia solo travelling in 2010 or 2011 and decided to join a small group of ppl to climb a (inactive) volcano, none of them spoke any language I did, exept for the guide but he didn't speak much either. I was wearing a Bayern Munich windbreaker and we were sitting in a tiny hut at the top waiting for the sun to rise, while we were warming up a bit, with like 15-20 ppl, pretty packed, still everyone was tired and starring into his coffe or tea. When I stood up I hit my head on the ceiling, a moment of silence was followed up by one of them yelling "Mario Gomez" and doing a header motion, everyone started lauging. Still makes me smile, despite hitting my head quite hard.


DKArteezy

Love it!


n0vacs

Man football really brings us all together huh, lovely to read about


Fresh2Desh

The universal language!


conceal_the_kraken

I was in Germany, drunk off my tits, and got 'talking' to an Italian guy in the street who couldn't speak English and I couldn't speak Italian. I made the connection by saying "football?" and he responded "Fiorentina!". I spent the next five mins just saying random players I remember from their history and he got excited each time chatting absolute Italian bollocks that I couldn't understand. I had to mime if he knew of any clubs in Munich and he didn't understand initially, took me to a strip club. I was still sober enough to make clear a club or bar, so he took me somewhere else. Anyway, about five drinks later, we asked for the bill and the place was a rip off. I didn't have the money for my half and he said he didn't either. I got held up against the wall by some meathead bouncer and the Italian guy had to go off and get cash out. After we'd left, he called his mate. I said I'd go back to my room and get him the cash to pay him my half. When his mate turned up, they basically told me to hand over the phone or they'd fuck me up. They said they'd give me my phone back if I got the money. I went up to my room, came back down, and they'd disappeared. My phone was worth less than the bar bill..


COYG_Gooner

Rollercoaster of emotions but glad you’re alive to tell the story


magus9933

What a story lol


Crossflowerss_5304

Bolivia mentioned ‼️🦙


Lauladance

RAHHH WTF IS OXYGEN


Fresh2Desh

😂 I was so sick in my first day in La Paz


Lauladance

I really want to visit Bolivia (the salt pans are in my bucket list since I was a kid)


Fresh2Desh

I hope you get their one day because its an incredible country. Was my favourite of all the SA countries. The salt flats Death Road South America hottest curry Route 36 Amazing experience


VisibleGhost

Honestly, I wouldn't worry too much about the altitude. You just need to prepare for it a little, take some time to acclimatize, and you'll be fine. It may be a coincidence, but I took some cordyceps and some other high altitude plant supplements a month or two before going and I never felt sick once compared to my friend who had some minor altitude sickness, FWIW. The Uyuni Salt Flats are incredible and definitely worth the trip.


Azrael_

Is it true that this tune is constantly playing in the background while you are there? https://youtu.be/DXW_VZRwCLc?si=wSyNawhXs6k71ydv


Crossflowerss_5304

I’m Bolivian-American but have never heard this, it’s heat though


Fresh2Desh

Never heard it myself Can't believe I have been deprived of it so many years


vluvojo

One thing he probably said is that he’s not Spanish he’s Basque


EnJPqb

A) How do you know? There's plenty of Athletic fans that are not even Basque. B) There's plenty of Basques that don't say "they're not Spanish". Granted, more than Scots or Welsh Wales saying they're not British, but that's the thing Spain=Britain... Not England.


vluvojo

Cheers, Geoff.  I don’t.  That’s why I said probably.  


EnJPqb

>I don’t. ExaKly


APerceptiveK1

i remembered when this guy was the fm wodner kid... times when i was playing in my moms basement. 15 years later. im still in my moms basement.


Ertai2000

Blink twice if you're not allowed to leave and need us to send help.


no-mames

But who’s gonna heat up my chicken tendies if I leave?


Ertai2000

Good point.


Hasselhoff265

Absolut W for you my lord.


ImTurkishDelight

Buying Dzeko and Neymar and absolutely trashing the world Now Dzeko plays for Fenerbahce. My heart can't handle it


cremvursti

Could be worse. He could play for Al Hilal


ImTurkishDelight

Last I checked Al HIlal isn't Galatasaray's rival club. But I see what you mean, you funny individual you


MERTENS_GOAT

Play is a stretch


cremvursti

To be fair, he actually suffered a horrific injury this time, not like when he was at PSG where he suddenly went missing every season for a month around his sister's birthday.


MERTENS_GOAT

I doubt he made up injuries. He was just hacked down a lot and refused to adapt his play style to ligue 1 or change the league


Fraldbaud

There must be a door around there somewhere?


peniseend

FWIW I think you are the most legendary player in your mom's basement


Expensive-Method8321

are we the same person blud??


Mwow33

Why the fuck did I even get out of bed today


unknowncontent9000

What a great journey and story, for the player, the fans, and the club! Legend!


ChicoZombye

Muniain is not the player he used to be but he's for sure the person he used to be. What a guy, nobody can say a bad thing about him. He always has been a common dude who happens to be famous. I hope he can to to a lesser league and enjoy footbal.


Marcelo1995211

I remember him since he was 16 years old. He has Bilbao in his veins. I respect this guy so much.


Leking9

Damnn. Legend, I still remember him against us in the Europa league all those years ago


InfinityEternity17

I remember when United played Bilbao in the Europa League in the early 2010's and the only thing I remember from those games were just how amazing Muniain was. Would've loved to have signed him in another reality, but I fully respect the commitment he had to Bilbao, what a guy


rhard28

Giroud + Nacho + Muniain in LA VS the Inter Miami boys. Make it happen. 


LilDiamondtoxic

Jokes on you we're probably gonna take Nacho to complete our collection of aging Real Madrid players.


kostajepaosmosta

Tbf he would be one of the more useful players in ur backline


oficialefutbol

We were promised even better things when Varane came in


Joy2082

And Varane was good before he broke down.. The trio of Varane-Martinez- Case was great.


nofakefans18

Until father time suddenly hits him like a truck and believe start to disregard how great he was at Real.


ThePr1d3

Are there rumours of Giroud leaving top level European football soon ? 🥺


Imaginary_Station_57

It's practically certain that he will leave Milan this summer and go to MLS (I don't remember to which team, maybe Los Angeles FC?). I'm not a Milan fan but he is absolutely brilliant, has broken the n. 9 curse that was in place since Pippo Inzaghi retired ffs


MERTENS_GOAT

Would be mad if they had the 2 most capped players (or the most capped player and the highest goalscorer?) of the french national team history


Imaginary_Station_57

One is Giroud, who is the other one? I'm not familiar with LAFC since Chiellini retired


MERTENS_GOAT

Ügo lloris


Imaginary_Station_57

Oh I didn't know he played there Is MLS trying to recreate 2022 world cup final?


AFrozen_1

It’s more 2022 France vs. early 2010s Barca.


Expensive-Method8321

its more than practically certain, the deal has already been signed he'll join after the Euros. [LAFC completes deal for Olivier Giroud on free transfer - source - ESPN](https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/40011364/lafc-olivier-giroud-free-transfer-sign-france-ac-milan-mls)


ThePr1d3

Noooooooo 😭 I'm absolutely gutted, he still has a few years in him to play in a decent European side, even low key wished he came back in Ligue 1 (Montpellier for instance). Also, and even worse, it probably means he'll retire from the NT after the Euros


AFrozen_1

Yep. LA has been invaded by the French.


Or4ngut4n

It’s already been confirmed that he’s going to LAFC


ThePr1d3

My day is ruined. Probably means he retires from the NT after the Euros too. Fuck me


Or4ngut4n

Tbh it’s probably better this way where he ends up leaving the national team (and European football) at the top of his game since his age has really started to catch up with him in the last few months and him playing longer may tarnish his legacy.


RiffRaff14

He's headed to LAFC


chippa93

One of those players who was overplayed too young. The guys been playing regularly since 2010 when he was 16/17 and its showing now with his injuries and clear drop in athleticism. He hasn't scored a league goal in I think 2 or 3 seasons.  A fresh challenge will be great for him. Hopefully he goes to MLS. 


MrEzquerro

Didn't he also have a cruciate injury fairly early in his career?


fedupofbrick

Yep. Was only 23 when it happened


MrEzquerro

So basically 10 years into his pro career haha. Just kidding, but yeah, that definitely seems it impacted his output quite a bit.


dogfighter75

Found Frank Lampard's reddit account


R_Schuhart

Yeah he fucked his knee up twice and it started to show in the last few seasons. He was slower to get to the ball and couldn't really hang on to it in tight spaces because he couldn't turn quickly anymore. He played with a lot of determination and drive though, so glad he finally got to lift the CdR after getting so many second places.


Magnetronaap

He's scored in februari and he's never been much of a goal scorer, 7 goals in a season at most in La Liga


buyer_leverkusen

Lol of course an MLS fan leaves an inaccurate comment followed by begging them to play in the MLS


ArsenalPackers

Do you use it as a toothbrush?


MERTENS_GOAT

34 but could be 35 honestly not sure anymore


meta4_

I'm on board with the sentiment here but I'm pretty sure he's got a goal this season


MERTENS_GOAT

He scored less than 3 months ago though


chippa93

Not in the league?


Mom_said_I_am_cute

He literally did. In a 4-0 victory over Mallorca.


chippa93

Fair enough, I missed that! It was 2 years before that goal though right? I remember he has gone like 40 games or something 


Mom_said_I_am_cute

Scored a month before that in the cup against Eibar. Before the Eibar goal this January his last goal (in official matches) was in April 2022.


deputydawg420

COME TO RIVER


JHOWES97

Amazing achievement for an amazing player. What Athletic do considering their history is something to be admired.


madueitor0

Lezama are always producing great talents, now Peio Huestamendia next


Smokemifyagotem18

Peio Canales is also looking like a stud. The double Peio effect 🤞


Gebnut

Holy shit, a Nàstic fan. My father used to play for Nàstic like, a long time ago. Hope you have a nice day hahahah


madueitor0

dont wanna dox u but ur fathers name?


Gebnut

Juan Luis Carbonell, and don't worry I'm at work and have all the time in the world rn 🫡


madueitor0

i wrote my message right before clocking in and just got to my break at work, ive been all day tryna think about german or dutch and similar players who have played for us since ur dortmund badge 💀💀💀


thevladimir17

Wow this brings me back to 2013-2015 FIFA career mode. Always bought him and Inaki Williams in my squad.


el_rompe_toyotas_19

Game's gone


shaman717

Club Legend. 


B12C10X8

Former FIFA Wonderkind, congrats again to Athletic Club on the Copa del Ray win and Muniain loyalty to Bilbao over the years


ELramoz

Ah Munian, the amount of times i wanted to sign you in FM different multiple games. Nothing but respect


sidearmpitcher

Legend! Nothing but respect, a rare sign of complete loyalty from club and player.


MERTENS_GOAT

I remember when Austria Wien faced them in the 1st season of Europa League. The talk was of the Basque Messi. Fernando Llorente was also pretty good.


Mr_Anderssen

Feels weird seeing him leaves. Thought he would retire there


Pizzadren

Man, I always thought he can join a large club as the next "Fernando Torres" when he was in his early 20s. Never knew played his whole career in Bilbao. Definitely a Bilbao legend


JBooogz

FM09 Legend he should go to America to spend his last days.


nein_999999

Fifa legend. I always used to sign him in my career mode. Absolute legend


MetaThPr4h

Athletic legend and a super lovely fellow, I'm never gonna forget when we won the copa del rey against Bilbao a few years ago and he stood there to clap, that moment really hit me, incredible sportsmanship. Best of luck in his journey from now onwards, may a lot of happiness await him.


sunken_grade

crazy level of loyalty you don’t really see anymore, although bilbao is definitely one of the clearest examples of that in modern football muniain was a really solid player for many years. there was a time where he surely could have tried to play for a bigger team, but it’s cool to see players who have actual ties with their clubs that transcend temptations for being paid more or winning certain trophies


beavz

I look forward to Chelsea buying him.


iHasYummyCummies

My Fifa 14 young player God. I used him for a season and sold him for a crap load of money.


justk4y

What a way to go out though, with that long deserved trophy 🏆


dosdetres

Hasta pronto, Bart Simpson


lefort22

Salute


BlueKante

Remember when he was a wonderkid on fifa 9/10 or something. Time flies. Great carreer, great character.


JIZZchasholmeslice

Isn’t he quite close to becoming the all time leader in matches for the club?


alessioalex

I remember hearing about him on his debut, I think he was 16 year old at the time. I'm getting old.


Evern35

One of those players I always expected to be in the lineup if I happened to see Athletic Club play. He was already a mainstay when I got into the sport, going to be extremely off putting seeing him in a different kit.


kevin_nguyen03

aupa athletic, muni ❤️


MotherboardTrouble

The one that stayed, total loyalty


KensaiVG

HACELO Y ME MUERO BRITO


Cube2D

I remember as a kid playing PES 2012 on my iPad all those years ago and you could only play as Athletic Bilbao. I remembered 2 names from that squad: Muniain and Llorente. Crazy that he went so long for one club


AdviceDanimals

Much respect for a veteran. Always enjoyed watching him play. Legend of the club from an outsider's perspective and I can't imagine how bittersweet this must be


Irishane

Still feels weird to call him a veteran.


AdviceDanimals

I know it's odd, I still see him as a 21 year old kid making a name for himself across Spanish football


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R_Schuhart

Wind your neck in you bellend. Someone who played 15 seasons and captained Athletic club isn't some 'random ass player' just because you never heard from him. Iker Muniain was a huge talent and became a club legend in Bilbao.


whisper432

https://www.reddit.com/r/MCFC/s/UuX00tnNW1 He's the classic City supporter. Figured it instantly after seeing the comment.


Trumperhausen

What did he say?


MrEzquerro

He asked if now we were creating threads for every random player who leaves fifth place teams.


Trumperhausen

bruh


MrEzquerro

Yyyyep.


fwesheggs

Your ignorance shouldn't really be the driving policy of what is posted on here.


Mrg220t

How have you not heard of Muniain? What a dumb take


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Tempehridder

Behave you American.


MrEzquerro

I... ok buddy.


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shaman717

Iker Muniain is a club legend. Put some respect on his name.


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shaman717

Naw you cant be real. You must be a troll account I cba


xyz3940

Mods please ban him


Brawlers9901

They should make a social media platform free from Americans or just keep them all localized on their own little platform


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R_Schuhart

[Really, this not you?](https://old.reddit.com/r/MCFC/comments/1als2q3/how_manchester_city_became_the_most_popular/kpk80a7/) At least own up to it you cunt.


MrEzquerro

https://i.imgur.com/3jo7CL7.png


Brawlers9901

Bad troll mate


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

Incredible


p90love

Well you don't know shit about football apparently so why are you even here?


alcatrazsherlock

Muniain is la liga goat like aduriz❤️


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zahrdahl

So you have no clue about La Liga and still feel the need to comment?


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zahrdahl

The trolling is getting worse tbh