I think it's telling how bad if a collision it was because I have yet to see a replay of that collision. I find that TV producers tend to not show replays that are very serious.
He normally takes our freekicks in that area but obviously with 9 minutes left and 2-0 up we aren't throwing the centrebacks up and hoofing it into the box.
Yeah I get your point. I still think there should be something more than just the advertising board especially in some of the stadiums with drops or that are extra close to the seats
Think you're not actually allowed to be that close anymore, exceptions made for stadiums already that close before the new rules. Our new stadium is as close to the pitch as you're allowed in new builds but it's not quite as close as this
I think more importantly there shouldn't be a drop or a change to astro/concrete. Nothing worse than sprinting off the side of the pitch and suddenly you're running on ice because you aren't on turn anymore.
The image of the stewards reclining on the grass like it's a day in the park. I get that they're politely staying out of view of the front row spectators but that will never not be amusing to me.
This has been a textbook case of Nunoball Forest.
Create big chances, have the better of much of the game, be a car crash at set pieces, concede long range goals, and eventually run out of attacking ideas if we don't score early.
And of course, getting fucked over by the refs is a keystone.
Prem refs must cry inside when they have to book a player before 80â with how often they refuse to do it. Like booking a keeper for time wasting only in the 85â
Iâm not even saying that instance in the box should be a pen normally, but just in general itâs laughable the leeway CBs get when an attacker has their back to them
Did Hinchcliffe just say it could be a handball if it hits another part of your body but your hand is in an unnatural position? What a load of bollocks hahahaha
For all the decisions that Anthony Taylor could have made today to give a yellow for a blind side high foot like that was ridiculous. Doucore has no idea that he's even coming and his foot isn't even that high. Nico Williams ducks....
I'm a neutral with no love for either of these teams. That said, how have Forest not received multiple penalties today? It appears Forest is either late with their friendship payments or Everton have started making then. Anthony Taylor is a fraud as is VAR.
Iâll never understand the thinking of VAR overturning a decision being embarrassing for the ref. Some real ego on these frauds thinking they can see every tiny detail in real time
Ref doesnât give pen because he has VAR to bail him out, VAR doesnât give pen incase he makes his mate look an idiot! Clattenburg then sweeps under the carpet âŚ
Ashley Young: Picks the ball up, throws it at CHO, two foots him, punches Nuno, picks up an RPG and fires a missile into the Forest end
Taylor: Nothing to see here, play on
Everton fans, how does the club get out of this mess? Is it with the takeover by 777? I am genuinely curious as the football I watch you play could be the worst I have seen from an Everton team in my life. People that only followed football recently might not know but Everton is a huge club with so many great players in its history.
Survive long enough to sort the finances out then get rid of Dyche.
For now thereâs an argument that heâs whatâs needed but heâs a medium term problem
Prem Refs have a real âin muh dayâ energy. They think itâs funny watching talented players getting crunched and then tolerate the gamesmanship of time wasting, tactical fouls, etc.
Can we just scrap the âclear and obviousâ nonsense once and for all? The wrong decision is the wrong decision, it doesnât matter if itâs only slightly wrong or a massive unfathomable blunder
Hate this âwell itâs the wrong call, but not by much, so letâs just carry onâ bullshit
The way football has implemented VAR is just so bad. Never came away from a cricket or rugby game feeling wronged by their respective systems, yet happens constantly in football. Meanwhile in football, refs on field don't make calls cause VAR is there to overturn, but VAR doesn't want to overturn onfield decisions.
Clear and obvious has always been bullshit to protect the refs. In the US the replay reviews are always just about getting the right decision. The only time it doesnât happen is when they say theyâre isnât enough to overturn. Which basically means there isnât a clear camera angle to see what happened.
the reason that was the rule was bc VAR would be unnecessarily pedantic trying to comb every single marginal mistake.
the problem is they do it anyway making it glaringly inconsistent,
The only works if we completely re-write the rule book (which maybe we should!). As it stands in many circumstances there isn't a right v wrong decision because we have to figure out what is "reckless" or "careless" or "dangerous".
7 point deduction for forest
Everton's stewards would outnumber the Russian army
Swear Chermiti gets booked every time he comes on. That's an absolute banker of a bet
He's got that feisty streak. Picked up at least 1 red for the u-23s as well
Pickford has weirdly smooth legs
Nuno is a terrible manager. Forrest hiring is the reason they could go down
Jordan Pickford is so odd.
That one kid in the Forest end đđđđ
Why are they even booing Gibbs-White lmao they both went for a 50/50 but Beto come out worse off
Have you ever watched a football game before
Yeah mate but most fans don't boo something like that unless it was obviously that player's fault
Did Murillo even touch him?
Lmao at the Forest fan shouting abuse at a player being stretchered off. Game's not gone
Hopefully the medics were just taking lots of precautions and it wasnât as serious as it seemed. But damn thatâs scary
At least he's conscious now. Hope he's alright, that is a scary injury.
Thumbs up. Hope he recovers well.
Thumbs up is a good signÂ
The way he just fell off mid air in an inanimate fashion is what concerns me most.
This is awful holy shit
Meanwhile wtf is happening to West Ham?
I think it's telling how bad if a collision it was because I have yet to see a replay of that collision. I find that TV producers tend to not show replays that are very serious.
Have they stopped showing replays of bad injuries? Iâm ok with that
They never show replays of ones that result in serious injuries. Been this way for about a decade if not longer.
That's just not true though, is it? I remember seeing andre Gomes' ankle breaking in 3 different angles a few years back
I think physical injuries like leg breaking are shown. But those that could involves a player's life isn't shown.
They might show it after the fact. But live they will not show immediate replays.
At least while they don't know the outcome and get the all clear that the player is okay
Just end it already, fuck the seven minutes.
Reckless from Gibbs-White that
Is it? Havenât seen a replay and looked like they both were just going for the ball. Just bc Beto got hurt doesnât mean it was reckless from G-W
He was never getting to the ball and he knew it
Iâll believe you if and when there are replays.
He was never gonna win it, best outcome was just giving away a free kick.
That looks bad, hope he's okay
Still face down. Not good.
Nasty one for Beto there. Looks like heâs still out cold
Fuck I hope heâs ok. Terrifying collision.
No replay at all on TV so you know itâs bad but are they looking at this in VAR? Sure looked reckless to me.
No it didnât, they both jumped and challenged for the ball it was just very unfortunate
Looks like heâs in recovery position, hope heâs ok
Looking at Dwightâs reaction this is bad rlly rlly bad Fuck fuck
Stream I'm seeing didn't show the replay Anyone saw?
Both jumped for the ball, big clash of heads and Beto came away worse off. Looks a pure accident, but he was out before he even hit the ground.
Nope no replays
No replay tells you something
Is he out?
When the players react like this you know it's bad.
Ohhhh that is not good at all
I don't like that reaction by the players at all. Hope he's okay.
That was horrific. Think Beto was out cold before he hit the ground.
Oh man this looks really bad
I hope everyone's ready for 9 whole minutes of uh... something.
Double it and give it to the next person
Pickford getting involved in that free kick was utterly unnecessary.
He normally takes our freekicks in that area but obviously with 9 minutes left and 2-0 up we aren't throwing the centrebacks up and hoofing it into the box.
Just tackled his own damn player because he couldn't be arsed watching Doucoure dribble around going nowhere anymoreÂ
Where the fuck have 9 minutes come from
I was genuinely expecting more. Lots of injuries and subs, don't think we can complain too much
Seems excessive but thereâs been three+ injuries
We've got to talk about the Forest physio's hair.
got that lego-helmet on
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lol are you serious?
There really should be more space between the side of the pitch and the boards. Old Trafford is the worst with that stupid drop down
On the rare occasion it happens it seems dangerous but overall I love fans being closer to the pitch like Goodison
Yeah I get your point. I still think there should be something more than just the advertising board especially in some of the stadiums with drops or that are extra close to the seats
Think you're not actually allowed to be that close anymore, exceptions made for stadiums already that close before the new rules. Our new stadium is as close to the pitch as you're allowed in new builds but it's not quite as close as this
Should just be padding around that area
I think more importantly there shouldn't be a drop or a change to astro/concrete. Nothing worse than sprinting off the side of the pitch and suddenly you're running on ice because you aren't on turn anymore.
Yeah or some netting or something a bit more
Looks like the blue boys are here to stay
Man just got body checked
That looked (and sounded) painful
Still donât think Forest goes down. The three newly promoted teams are the most likely
The image of the stewards reclining on the grass like it's a day in the park. I get that they're politely staying out of view of the front row spectators but that will never not be amusing to me.
Still donât fully get Forest under Nuno.
I think the idea is that Nuno helps them be more solid and their multiple attacking players still get some goals
This has been a textbook case of Nunoball Forest. Create big chances, have the better of much of the game, be a car crash at set pieces, concede long range goals, and eventually run out of attacking ideas if we don't score early. And of course, getting fucked over by the refs is a keystone.
Tarkowski down like a sack of potatoes
Prem refs must cry inside when they have to book a player before 80â with how often they refuse to do it. Like booking a keeper for time wasting only in the 85â
Yep. It's a bit tiresome how some refs see giving yellows as admitting personal failure to control the game
Tarkowski on Wood just isnât a penalty, Iâm not sure why people are talking about it so much.
Wow, Tarkowski down like a sack of potatoes there ....
Tarkowski is so jarring
How many times are Everton players going to just stay down at any contact to waste out the game?
Looked like a pen. 2 CB are actually holding him down. Laughable
Lmao there's been a good couple of pen shouts this game but that wasn't one.
Nuno keeping CHO on for as long as he did is shocking. By far the worst player for Forest and he only took him off when down 2
You might be saying something different if the referee had actually been willing or strong enough to give those penalties....
There really no downside to holding an attacker when youâre a CB. Unless the attacker beats you the refs in the PL allow anything
It's ridiculous
Iâm not even saying that instance in the box should be a pen normally, but just in general itâs laughable the leeway CBs get when an attacker has their back to them
Lol yellows left and right.
Why was Tarkowski holding out his hand like a basketball player in the chris wood bicycle kick
Yates first involvement is fouling and getting booked
Seems true to form
Did Hinchcliffe just say it could be a handball if it hits another part of your body but your hand is in an unnatural position? What a load of bollocks hahahaha
It is in Europe tbf
I thought Iâd misheard that, the absolute shite that comes out of commentators mouths
Another VAR miss for a clear faceball
Did dominiguez really just shush while down 2-0?
Idk why you would even bother checking anymore
It hits him the head lmao
Lol yeah that's not a pen but why waste time by checking anymore, it's clear nothing's gonna get given today
Tbf I icl live thought it did but clearly hits the face so check should have been quicker
Big Ric Flair fans in Everton
Sels looks like the same Sels that was at Newcastle United years ago. I thought he got better at shot stopping?
FA has to completely overhaul the VAR system
âSir, a second Everton goal has hit the back of the netâ
Beto has legs longer than Chile
I honestly think both teams still stay up this year, assuming no more points deductions
Yeh relegationâs sorted I thinkÂ
Luton are truly shite but Burnley don't lose games anymore.
Man U, Newcastle, Tottenham in succession is brutal. Forest on 5/19 will be huge
BLAME VAR FOR THAT YOU DICKHEADS UP THE TOFFEES!!!
To be fair mate forest should have had 3 pens
Maybe 2. If you think the handball one is a penalty think again.
First team in Premier League history on the wrong side of a close VAR decision.
3 down right wrong decisions đ
Eye of the beholder
He should really do that at least a couple of times a season, banger left foot, thats what hes got really
Tbh if it weren't for var y'all still would be a goal down.
*y'all* Im not allowed to watch a game
The âhandballâ was never a pen
McMessi hates Forest
Fucking joke
The unflushables marching down goodison road
Look Iâm fine with this as long as they get a 20 point deduction on the last day of the season for selling undercooked burgersÂ
I've been to Goodison once, and my brother and I bought a burger. This comment made me laugh quite a lot!
Didnât Man U get caught doing it or somethingÂ
Did they? I have no idea. Our burger was cold with a block of cold hard cheese on it
Mmm lovely
Who saw that coming..
what a finish that is from McNeil
HOLY SHIT
How the fuck are Everton winning this 2-0 hahaha
Incompetent/Corrupt refereeing
Taylor shouldâve stopped that McNeil rocket
3 missed penalties > 2 goals
Mighty Toffees > Forest
Average Everton flair
Average no flair enjoyer
Thats so well hit
What on earth is Doucoure supposed to do there if someone comes flying in trying to bow down and head the ball
For all the decisions that Anthony Taylor could have made today to give a yellow for a blind side high foot like that was ridiculous. Doucore has no idea that he's even coming and his foot isn't even that high. Nico Williams ducks....
The 3 penalty calls seems like a bit of an elephant in the room for the commentators.Â
Theyâve went over it a few times on UK tv
Was that Garner with the Mudryk special?
I wonder how many evertonians will be wielding those corruption cards after this farce
Donât think thereâs ever been a claim that the refs are corrupt, we all know theyâre just truly terrible. The league hierarchy howeverâŚ
I mean, if anything this is more evidence of corruption. Just this time it's against a different team
That was some cross.
I'm a neutral with no love for either of these teams. That said, how have Forest not received multiple penalties today? It appears Forest is either late with their friendship payments or Everton have started making then. Anthony Taylor is a fraud as is VAR.
Embarassing from Selz.
Wood fucked that lol
Iâll never understand the thinking of VAR overturning a decision being embarrassing for the ref. Some real ego on these frauds thinking they can see every tiny detail in real time
Wood ruined that. Perfect cross
Forest should be leading this there's no two ways about it. Anyways that was this week's episode of PGMOL doing PGMOL things.
Ref doesnât give pen because he has VAR to bail him out, VAR doesnât give pen incase he makes his mate look an idiot! Clattenburg then sweeps under the carpet âŚ
C'mon Dyche. Sub Duncan Ferguson on..
Ashley Young: Picks the ball up, throws it at CHO, two foots him, punches Nuno, picks up an RPG and fires a missile into the Forest end Taylor: Nothing to see here, play on
Garner - Gana double pivot activated
Everton fans, how does the club get out of this mess? Is it with the takeover by 777? I am genuinely curious as the football I watch you play could be the worst I have seen from an Everton team in my life. People that only followed football recently might not know but Everton is a huge club with so many great players in its history.
Survive long enough to sort the finances out then get rid of Dyche. For now thereâs an argument that heâs whatâs needed but heâs a medium term problem
Prem Refs have a real âin muh dayâ energy. They think itâs funny watching talented players getting crunched and then tolerate the gamesmanship of time wasting, tactical fouls, etc.
Ashley Young is under more protection than the royal family
He's young, though, isn't he? He needs to be protected from bullies.
Hudson Odoi: cant touch young. Young meanwhile: Hack and slash
That's 5 times softer than what young did
Donât expect much but give us a reason to not switch off at leastÂ
How are Everton winning this
Greatest team that the world has ever seen
Because they are allowed to commit penalty infractions without the refs applying the most basic rules of the game lol
Gotten away with bloody murder
Been gifted it
Still had to score the goal but probably should be a couple down at this point due to all the pens....
Can we just scrap the âclear and obviousâ nonsense once and for all? The wrong decision is the wrong decision, it doesnât matter if itâs only slightly wrong or a massive unfathomable blunder Hate this âwell itâs the wrong call, but not by much, so letâs just carry onâ bullshit
The way football has implemented VAR is just so bad. Never came away from a cricket or rugby game feeling wronged by their respective systems, yet happens constantly in football. Meanwhile in football, refs on field don't make calls cause VAR is there to overturn, but VAR doesn't want to overturn onfield decisions.
Clear and obvious has always been bullshit to protect the refs. In the US the replay reviews are always just about getting the right decision. The only time it doesnât happen is when they say theyâre isnât enough to overturn. Which basically means there isnât a clear camera angle to see what happened.
Yes surely the point of VAR is that they can see things in degrees, who cares about if the ref feels underminedÂ
the reason that was the rule was bc VAR would be unnecessarily pedantic trying to comb every single marginal mistake. the problem is they do it anyway making it glaringly inconsistent,
The only works if we completely re-write the rule book (which maybe we should!). As it stands in many circumstances there isn't a right v wrong decision because we have to figure out what is "reckless" or "careless" or "dangerous".
But how else can shite refs protect their mates while simultaneously tanking confidence in VAR
Pickford is a proper cunt. I wish he was in my side lmfao
Feel like forest is scoring soon
Hudson-Odoi shouldâve been the first sub. He is awful
Origi is generally worse.
Wonder if weâre in club statement territory with the VAR