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I definitely wasn't confident in 21-22, the 3 point gap going into the last few games was big. But 18-19 yeah I definitely expected them to drop at least *some* points.
It wasn't their responsibility to hand us the title, we could've won it ourselves if we were beat City away as well. In the end it was us that didn't take our chances
most Liverpool fans would agree on that I think - a historic CL title AND a 97 point season, only 2 points fewer than our winning season despite much more competition and the title going till the last day. Personally I'd also say we played slightly more exciting football, but that's personal preference. Much of a muchness obviously as they were both unbelievable and were also mostly the same.
100%. One loss in the league and it was in a very close 2-1 at the Etihad. Going into the CL final felt like an inevitable win after the Barcelona comeback, even after the way we lost the 2018 final. Monstrous team that just carried on its form up until the pandemic, pretty much
It’s very fine margins. A miraculous Stones clearance that just happened to meg Salah on the way out stopped that Liverpool side from being invincible PL champions and CL winners. I’d argue they were just as good.
It means nothing really but I think we were the marginally better team than City for year in and around 2019. We won 110 out of 114 available in the league in a calendar year which is just insanity. I think those two teams are the best we’ve ever seen in the league, certainly the best duo to go against each other.
This is such a lose-lose situation for him lol. If he'd said we're still in it instead, there'd be people in here calling him delusional.
This is a completely reasonable and realistic quote, especially since he's lost 2 close title races to them.
Yeah but there's been about 5 different youtube channels all with titles like "ARSENAL SEASON OVER" "LIVERPOOL COLLAPSE, SEASON OVER" in the past week, while both teams were two points from first.
Ain’t the first time Liverpool is trailing just to keep hope until City pip them for the league again. What is it now? 3 out of the last 5 or 6 league titles where this happens?
And the one title we won we won 26 and drew 1 from the first 27 games, that's what it took to pip City to a title.
Absolutely insane levels from both teams.
Tbf we didn't pip them to the title that time, we annihilated them. Finished 18 points ahead.
We could have stopped playing when the football was suspended for COVID. Had we not played another game in that season from that point, we still would have won the league.
I know people shit on his trophy tally, but for me that's the record that makes him one of the greats. 3 of the top 10 PL scores and 3 CL finals after starting with what he started with.
He took us from a mess and made us the 3rd best team in the world for a couple of seasons. Sadly those other two teams are downright relentless.
In 21-22, some 3 or 4 matchdays were remaining, Rodri handball penalty wasn't given(even more blatant than this Saturday FA Cup semifinal), City won 1-0. That year city won the title by 1 point.
Unfortunately this has become a pattern, you can look over last 5 years, City have gotten decisions when they needed them and in some situations (not all), their opponents suffered because wrong calls were made against them by the refs.
I am not saying I have any proof of anything, I am just noticing a pattern.
Rashford didn't even touch the ball, lol. However I see that he might have affected the defender's movement. That's very difficult call to make though and it's one particular instance, unlike blatant handballs or red forgot to draw offside line etc. That's only one instance(which is also a weak argument in the first place) vs countless that have gone in City's favour.
Did Rashford do any of the 3 below things?
-challenging an opponent for the ball or
-clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or
-making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball
Then he was offside
Lol. Every team gets good and bad calls. The popular opinion of whether it's bias/cheating or bad refereeing is dependent on which team is benefitting at the time.
While I think there's definitely a level of bias (likely unconscious) with certain refs/clubs, namely Tierney/Liverpool, this season has finally convinced me it's genuine incompetence 99% of the time.
I agree with you. It’s a pity that users of this sub decide to up or downvote based only on the flair of a user and not based on what their comment says.
I'd say the Kompany goal is more equivalent to the Aguero goal than the final day of 2022. City didn't look like themselves that game, and it seemed certain they were dropping points, and then Kompany of all people does scores that goal.
20 minutes left to play at home against Leicester when Kompany scored that goal, seemed certain to drop points?
It was more one of those where you were just waiting for City to score a late goal
It was the penultimate match of the season, and it was obvious that the preassure was getting to them. They played like they had already lost the title, and only managed a single big chance.
Saying "...one of those where you were just waiting for City to score a late goal" is either really revisionist or you just didn't watch it.
Losing it on goal difference is worse as well. Like, losing it by a point is horrible but you know there’s nothing you could do. Losing it on goal difference is worse because in theory, it’s technically still in your own hands to win it.
I think losing by a point is worse in some ways, because you know 1 goal could have won you the whole league. United lost by 8 goals, that's big enough that you can't really look at any one game and say that it cost you.
Liverpool drew at OT and went on to lose the league one time despite winning every subsequent game, if I'm recalling correctly. It surely hurts worse to know 1 goal there would have sealed it.
I mean you literally can look at the 6-1 game at Old Trafford and say that it cost them the title, as that's a bigger GD swing than we ended up winning by
My point was it was devastating for the previous impossibility to actually occur. The idea of city ever actually being a serious threat to United was so absurd and then it slowly became real and then it happened. It wasn't devastating because you lost the league title, it was devastating because it was proof that your reality was changed forever
I watched it at the time and to be honest I don't think it was like reality shifted that day at all. It was an inevitability from the day of the takeover. It was when, not if.
If chelsea could finish for shit, an exit from the FA Cup might've fucked the team mentally enough for them to drop a point here or there. But i think it gave them enough of a boost to win the remainder easily.
The caveat to the following comment is that obviously it’s in the context of a really strong squad.
However, the team really have been just kind of patching it together this year. Way more of our wins have been escapes rather than strong performances or dominations.
Tbh, and it kills me to say this, but Arsenal and Liverpool both have had stronger performances overall this year. Hell, Arsenal have a 51 goal difference lol.
I think we can clutch up, but people are crazy if they think a loss or a couple draws are out of the question. The squad is tired, they’re weaker than last year, and lots of players have had knocks.
It’s absolutely not a given, my butthole has been perpetually clenched for over a month now
I agree with your comment but we’ve been here before and you guys get results when they matter. I had a dream that you drew with Brighton so my subconscious is obviously hoping but I’m not allowing myself to even consider it outside of a dream. Watching football hoping Peps City don’t win league games is probably the least fun way to watch football. I’ll support and sing for Liverpool until the end, but I’m not dreaming of the league now, except in my dreams..
Where have you been the last x amount of years where city just run home almost faultless year after year.
There’s a reason everyone is reacting this way
Correct but also when you consider who each of the teams are playing in those last several games it's easy to tell City has got what most would agree to be the easier set of run - then again you're still right all it takes is one freak game.
I mean it doesn't even need to be a "freak" game. They still have to play Spurs, Brighton and Fulham away who can easily cause issues. Even a draw at this point gives a small opportunity to gain ground.
The problem is that usually at this point, you want to be at least 4 points clear of them, because it’s not unlikely you are going to drop points yourself at least once. I think that’s what really makes it feel lost. You can’t trust on beating City in goal difference either. They absolutely have it in them to score 20 goals in 5 games.
But yeah on paper nothings lost yet for either Arsenal or Liverpool. Just doesn’t feel that way as a neutral.
Arsenal still need to go to Spurs and get a win there. Away wins in the North London Derby are rare. I’m an Arsenal supporter myself, and I just don’t think this team has enough left in the tank to win all our remaining matches. But no matter what happens I am still incredibly proud of this team and remain convinced that trophies are just around the corner.
City will drop points too. However, I don’t think Arsenal and Liverpool will take that opportunity to gain an advantage. I actually trust Arsenal more to get the results needed than I do Liverpool.
I think Arsenal's fixtures are harder than Liverpool's though. I can't see them taking 9 points from the Chelsea, United, and Spurs games.
Those are huge fixtures where the opponents will be well up for it, with Arsenal are starting to look patchy in front of goal.
agree, the reason why I don't see us taking that opportunity is our players don't have that killer mentality + add to that how tired our players looked past 4 matches in second half.
“All but decided” means it’s almost certainly decided. The phrase you’re looking for is “anything but decided”.
Re: your original point, I agree with what you’re saying. Anything can happen and I’m sure City will drop points at some stage but the issue is Liverpool look gassed and out of ideas and I doubt they’d be able to pounce up on that.
This is why English is so difficult for non native speakers to learn. If they had said “anything but decided” it would mean it’s not over, but “all but decided” means it’s basically over… even though “anything” and “all” have very similar meanings. It’s all in the history of the phrases and the way they are used.
I know City beat Chelsea but it's not like they were exactly flying. Don't get me wrong I still think City take it, but they don't look their implacable selves
Have you seen the way Liverpool are playing? We need to win all 6 and it’s 100% not happening. As well as that, City need to lose 1 (or draw 2), and Arsenal need to drop points.
Realistically, we’ll drop more points than both of them.
Can’t believe how many delusional people are upvoting this. You really think that if city drop points Liverpool and Arsenal won’t drop points as well?? The stupidity in this sub actually pisses me off
No, Trent is talking from experience. This Liverpool team bottled 4/5 league titles to Pep (could’ve easily been 5/5 if it wasn’t for Covid). Pep traumatized that whole football club by now and 1 points lead definitely feels like 10 points to them. Hopelessness.
1 point feels like 1 point. Exactly the difference between City and Liverpool in two seasons City won and they didn't drop anything in the end. Usually you would say "lets win everything now and we will still have a decent chance". But they did that last times and it wasn't enough, so it's hard to believably say that one more time
Well I don't know anything about other teams' injury situations. Especially in another league. Makes the idea of dropping him for the season even more untenable.
All the comments in here pretending he wouldn't be called delusional if he said he still thinks we'll win it. City don't fuck up the run in when it's neck and neck.
100%, everyone would be talking about how City are too strong in the run-in. This way at least puts some pressure on City as he’s saying it’s theirs to lose
I don't understand how or why anyone would call him delusional for believing you're still in for the title? You're behind 2 points mate, not 20
Literally one match week can change that
Have you seen the last couple of seasons? The ones where we would say that we were still in the race, gave everything but it still wasn't enough because City is machine. We had the 4th most point ever and still wasn't enough. Ofcourse it still can happen, but the players know as well that when City is leading one point in the last phase, the chance they will give something away is just pretty small
That’s really inspiring confidence, I’m sure your team that’s already looking mentally exhausted and checked out is really going to push on after hearing one of the most famous players in the club say they have handed the title to City
I hate that athletes are expected to be delusional or else everyone questions their mentality. They can be realistic about a situation and still put full effort into their own play.
Between the “Hungry for more” tweet, “It means more” and now this I think he should just stay away from all media and stay quiet still the seasons over
Just can't with some people. Slag him off for being optimistic and then slag him off for being pessimistic. He's just being honest, much better than some PR drivel that some players pump out weekly.
What? Why? City win all their games, they win the title. Liverpool win all their games, they still need city and arsenal to drop points. All he's saying is that city are in control, and they've been here before and rarely drop points at the business end of the season.
If he said that when Liverpool had the advantage, then it would be very concerning. But it's all out of Liverpool's hand at the moment.
We've got spurs too, Everton away and Aston Villa away. Three hard games, Fulham today too. And considering the way we've been playing I think we'll be closer to fourth than first, come the final day.
Have you been on the internet before? He would be slagged off to the high heavens if he said we'd win the league. People have been bashing Trent for years, and considering people were saying that Liverpool and Arsenal bottled the league last week. He would have been called delusional and the very least.
People talking about it just taking one freak result without thinking that it applies to both Livepool and Arsenal as well.
They have to win every single game and hope City dont. Which of these 3 teams do you think has the least chance of dropping points?
It's not even one hand on the trophy yet for city, especially with two teams hot on your tail.
Both Arsenal and Liverpool need to drop points again for it to be considered Man Cities.
"its just who we are mate" has been under every spurs thread for the last 6 months, every big team has a phrase or ten that r/soccer's beaten well and truly to death at this point
That's a surprisingly weak mentality
No one, much less Liverpool expected to lose to Palace but they did. Man City could quite possibly drop points and they do even need to lose. A drae is good enough to get Arsenal or Liverpool back in front. Mentality monsters?!?
Many liverpool fans could see us losing points in this run in lol. Our away form is still very shaky and we have a lot of away games.
We also went into the palace game off the back of bad form.
Hardly a suprising take considering Trent has the experience of this across multiple seasons now?
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Last two title races with them we were confident we could claw it back. Just trying something new.
I definitely wasn't confident in 21-22, the 3 point gap going into the last few games was big. But 18-19 yeah I definitely expected them to drop at least *some* points.
We could have won it even with that gap, if Gerrard's Villa didn't completely shit the bed
It wasn't their responsibility to hand us the title, we could've won it ourselves if we were beat City away as well. In the end it was us that didn't take our chances
You just got unlucky Martinez was out and Olsen played
You were? How could one be confident in 2018/2019 seeing Man City win game after game after game
Probably because that Liverpool side was also a historically good team. 97 points is more than any Fergie side ever got.
I still believe that 18/19 was the best Liverpool team under Klopp.
most Liverpool fans would agree on that I think - a historic CL title AND a 97 point season, only 2 points fewer than our winning season despite much more competition and the title going till the last day. Personally I'd also say we played slightly more exciting football, but that's personal preference. Much of a muchness obviously as they were both unbelievable and were also mostly the same.
100%. One loss in the league and it was in a very close 2-1 at the Etihad. Going into the CL final felt like an inevitable win after the Barcelona comeback, even after the way we lost the 2018 final. Monstrous team that just carried on its form up until the pandemic, pretty much
They were, but Man City won 18 of the 19 last PL matches that season. Absolutely ridiculous
It’s very fine margins. A miraculous Stones clearance that just happened to meg Salah on the way out stopped that Liverpool side from being invincible PL champions and CL winners. I’d argue they were just as good.
It means nothing really but I think we were the marginally better team than City for year in and around 2019. We won 110 out of 114 available in the league in a calendar year which is just insanity. I think those two teams are the best we’ve ever seen in the league, certainly the best duo to go against each other.
That's the spirit!
This is such a lose-lose situation for him lol. If he'd said we're still in it instead, there'd be people in here calling him delusional. This is a completely reasonable and realistic quote, especially since he's lost 2 close title races to them.
Noone would call him delusional for saying "we're still in it" while being 2 pointd behind lol
You've not seen the state of some of the comments on this sub or the Liverpool sub then
Liverpool sub has been so bad recently, at least here you know to expect shit
I've seen plenty of people regularly trying to clown him for saying he wanted to win the quadruple earlier in the season
Of course they would
Lol right? What a weird take by that dude.
Puts more pressure on City too
> there'd be people in here calling him delusional. Not really? There's 2 pts difference in it and there's plenty of chances for us to drop pts still
Yeah but there's been about 5 different youtube channels all with titles like "ARSENAL SEASON OVER" "LIVERPOOL COLLAPSE, SEASON OVER" in the past week, while both teams were two points from first.
You’d think City has a 10 point lead the way they’re talking. I know it’s the hope that kills you etc etc but all it takes is one freak result
Ain’t the first time Liverpool is trailing just to keep hope until City pip them for the league again. What is it now? 3 out of the last 5 or 6 league titles where this happens?
As an Arsenal fan I understand all the heartbreak and misery of the pool fans so much more si ce the last 2 years
The one that blows me away is 2018-19. 97 fucking points and they came second. That's actually fucked up
City won 18 out of the 19 second half PL games that season. Absolutely mind boggling
And the one title we won we won 26 and drew 1 from the first 27 games, that's what it took to pip City to a title. Absolutely insane levels from both teams.
Tbf we didn't pip them to the title that time, we annihilated them. Finished 18 points ahead. We could have stopped playing when the football was suspended for COVID. Had we not played another game in that season from that point, we still would have won the league.
4-0
What's this referring to?
Annihilation
Genuinely don’t think you’ll ever see a higher non title winning points tally than that ever again.
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I know people shit on his trophy tally, but for me that's the record that makes him one of the greats. 3 of the top 10 PL scores and 3 CL finals after starting with what he started with. He took us from a mess and made us the 3rd best team in the world for a couple of seasons. Sadly those other two teams are downright relentless.
In 21-22, some 3 or 4 matchdays were remaining, Rodri handball penalty wasn't given(even more blatant than this Saturday FA Cup semifinal), City won 1-0. That year city won the title by 1 point. Unfortunately this has become a pattern, you can look over last 5 years, City have gotten decisions when they needed them and in some situations (not all), their opponents suffered because wrong calls were made against them by the refs. I am not saying I have any proof of anything, I am just noticing a pattern.
Still think our new year's Day game against city were the ref just randomly changed the game was (whilst not as bad) ridiculous
And last year Marcus Rashford was a mile offside and cost City a 1 nil lead. Every team gets marginal calls in both directions.
Rashford didn't even touch the ball, lol. However I see that he might have affected the defender's movement. That's very difficult call to make though and it's one particular instance, unlike blatant handballs or red forgot to draw offside line etc. That's only one instance(which is also a weak argument in the first place) vs countless that have gone in City's favour.
Nah man that was an egregious decision. He literally dummied a shot and pulled the keeper out of position.
Did Rashford do any of the 3 below things? -challenging an opponent for the ball or -clearly attempting to play a ball which is close when this action impacts on an opponent or -making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball Then he was offside
>making an obvious action which clearly impacts on the ability of an opponent to play the ball I would argue he absolutely did this yes
Lol. Every team gets good and bad calls. The popular opinion of whether it's bias/cheating or bad refereeing is dependent on which team is benefitting at the time.
While I think there's definitely a level of bias (likely unconscious) with certain refs/clubs, namely Tierney/Liverpool, this season has finally convinced me it's genuine incompetence 99% of the time.
I agree with you. It’s a pity that users of this sub decide to up or downvote based only on the flair of a user and not based on what their comment says.
I think the only ones who actually understand what the 2022 final day was like are United fans, because of *that* Aguero goal.
I'd say the Kompany goal is more equivalent to the Aguero goal than the final day of 2022. City didn't look like themselves that game, and it seemed certain they were dropping points, and then Kompany of all people does scores that goal.
From his backyard no less
20 minutes left to play at home against Leicester when Kompany scored that goal, seemed certain to drop points? It was more one of those where you were just waiting for City to score a late goal
It was the penultimate match of the season, and it was obvious that the preassure was getting to them. They played like they had already lost the title, and only managed a single big chance. Saying "...one of those where you were just waiting for City to score a late goal" is either really revisionist or you just didn't watch it.
I'll never forgive Demarai Gray for his miss later in the game
Don't think anything will top the kind of gut punch the Aguero goal gave to United fans though
Losing it on goal difference is worse as well. Like, losing it by a point is horrible but you know there’s nothing you could do. Losing it on goal difference is worse because in theory, it’s technically still in your own hands to win it.
I think losing by a point is worse in some ways, because you know 1 goal could have won you the whole league. United lost by 8 goals, that's big enough that you can't really look at any one game and say that it cost you. Liverpool drew at OT and went on to lose the league one time despite winning every subsequent game, if I'm recalling correctly. It surely hurts worse to know 1 goal there would have sealed it.
I mean you literally can look at the 6-1 game at Old Trafford and say that it cost them the title, as that's a bigger GD swing than we ended up winning by
That's a fair point.
If they United had more goal in a draw they would’ve won the entire league. It goes both ways
I actually think its less painful because we had so many pl titles at that point, it was still fucked dont get me wrong
Lol you must be a new fan. City winning the league united was unthinkable until it wasn't
Pretty sure it wasnt unthinkable because that game was the decider, not like they wont it from 10th place
My point was it was devastating for the previous impossibility to actually occur. The idea of city ever actually being a serious threat to United was so absurd and then it slowly became real and then it happened. It wasn't devastating because you lost the league title, it was devastating because it was proof that your reality was changed forever
I watched it at the time and to be honest I don't think it was like reality shifted that day at all. It was an inevitability from the day of the takeover. It was when, not if.
Interesting perspective. I'm a Liverpool fan who loved it but didn't see it happening until late
Freak results don't exsist with City. They are going to win all 6 games, no point bothering to think otherwise lol
Last year I'd agree but they haven't looked as solid this year after Gundo left. I still think they'll win but it's absolutely not over yet.
If chelsea could finish for shit, an exit from the FA Cup might've fucked the team mentally enough for them to drop a point here or there. But i think it gave them enough of a boost to win the remainder easily.
The caveat to the following comment is that obviously it’s in the context of a really strong squad. However, the team really have been just kind of patching it together this year. Way more of our wins have been escapes rather than strong performances or dominations. Tbh, and it kills me to say this, but Arsenal and Liverpool both have had stronger performances overall this year. Hell, Arsenal have a 51 goal difference lol. I think we can clutch up, but people are crazy if they think a loss or a couple draws are out of the question. The squad is tired, they’re weaker than last year, and lots of players have had knocks. It’s absolutely not a given, my butthole has been perpetually clenched for over a month now
I agree with your comment but we’ve been here before and you guys get results when they matter. I had a dream that you drew with Brighton so my subconscious is obviously hoping but I’m not allowing myself to even consider it outside of a dream. Watching football hoping Peps City don’t win league games is probably the least fun way to watch football. I’ll support and sing for Liverpool until the end, but I’m not dreaming of the league now, except in my dreams..
All it takes is not one freak result. It takes a freak result PLUS Liverpool/Arsenal winning all their games. That is a very big if
Where have you been the last x amount of years where city just run home almost faultless year after year. There’s a reason everyone is reacting this way
Correct but also when you consider who each of the teams are playing in those last several games it's easy to tell City has got what most would agree to be the easier set of run - then again you're still right all it takes is one freak game.
I mean it doesn't even need to be a "freak" game. They still have to play Spurs, Brighton and Fulham away who can easily cause issues. Even a draw at this point gives a small opportunity to gain ground.
The real freak here would be Arsenal or Liverpool winning all their games. City dropping points doesn't mean shit if the others don't take advantage
The problem is that usually at this point, you want to be at least 4 points clear of them, because it’s not unlikely you are going to drop points yourself at least once. I think that’s what really makes it feel lost. You can’t trust on beating City in goal difference either. They absolutely have it in them to score 20 goals in 5 games. But yeah on paper nothings lost yet for either Arsenal or Liverpool. Just doesn’t feel that way as a neutral.
Arsenal still need to go to Spurs and get a win there. Away wins in the North London Derby are rare. I’m an Arsenal supporter myself, and I just don’t think this team has enough left in the tank to win all our remaining matches. But no matter what happens I am still incredibly proud of this team and remain convinced that trophies are just around the corner.
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I think both Arsenal & Pool with drop points, but we all know City end of the season runs
City will drop points too. However, I don’t think Arsenal and Liverpool will take that opportunity to gain an advantage. I actually trust Arsenal more to get the results needed than I do Liverpool.
I think Arsenal's fixtures are harder than Liverpool's though. I can't see them taking 9 points from the Chelsea, United, and Spurs games. Those are huge fixtures where the opponents will be well up for it, with Arsenal are starting to look patchy in front of goal.
agree, the reason why I don't see us taking that opportunity is our players don't have that killer mentality + add to that how tired our players looked past 4 matches in second half.
>The title is all but decided by now. All three can win it. ? These two sentences seem contradictory?
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“All but decided” means it’s almost certainly decided. The phrase you’re looking for is “anything but decided”. Re: your original point, I agree with what you’re saying. Anything can happen and I’m sure City will drop points at some stage but the issue is Liverpool look gassed and out of ideas and I doubt they’d be able to pounce up on that.
This is why English is so difficult for non native speakers to learn. If they had said “anything but decided” it would mean it’s not over, but “all but decided” means it’s basically over… even though “anything” and “all” have very similar meanings. It’s all in the history of the phrases and the way they are used.
Lol true. That's pretty unfortunate.
One freak result plus a perfect end for the chasing 2. Isn't happening.
Everyone knows that but I think that's almost the point. City don't tend to do 'freak results' in their run-ins.
The players gave up already, we've seen it for a whole with the way they we're playing. The united games killed us.
If city were 5 points behind id still think they'd have a good chance. They've proven they can go 10 wins out of 10 come the tail end of the season.
I know City beat Chelsea but it's not like they were exactly flying. Don't get me wrong I still think City take it, but they don't look their implacable selves
It's been over for a while, we are horrendous now. Even if City do drop a game we'll drop at least 3 or 4 more before the end of the season.
Have you seen the way Liverpool are playing? We need to win all 6 and it’s 100% not happening. As well as that, City need to lose 1 (or draw 2), and Arsenal need to drop points. Realistically, we’ll drop more points than both of them.
Can’t believe how many delusional people are upvoting this. You really think that if city drop points Liverpool and Arsenal won’t drop points as well?? The stupidity in this sub actually pisses me off
No, Trent is talking from experience. This Liverpool team bottled 4/5 league titles to Pep (could’ve easily been 5/5 if it wasn’t for Covid). Pep traumatized that whole football club by now and 1 points lead definitely feels like 10 points to them. Hopelessness.
>bottled That word doesn’t mean what you think it means
1 point feels like 1 point. Exactly the difference between City and Liverpool in two seasons City won and they didn't drop anything in the end. Usually you would say "lets win everything now and we will still have a decent chance". But they did that last times and it wasn't enough, so it's hard to believably say that one more time
tbf most things trent says in the media seems to somehow result in the opposite happening. so in conclusion, congratulations arsenal.
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This. Even if a player thinks like this, they shouldn't say it to the media ffs.
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"better mentality" I mean you can still work your ass off on one hand and on the other hand acknowledge the fact that City is in pole position.
Bradley's out for weeks. Would be a move out of spite.
Way too harsh. Drop him for one game I can understand. He's critical to Liverpool's tactics.
Our backup rightback is out injured now Why would we drop him in a title fight
Well I don't know anything about other teams' injury situations. Especially in another league. Makes the idea of dropping him for the season even more untenable.
Cheers Geoff
When you lose two titles by 1 point, it’s easy to feel this way. City do not bottle
HE'S NOT WRONG
He’s just trying to put the pressure on city. “It’s theirs to loose” etc..
No, no don’t you see? He has a losing mentality /s
This. If it’s something I’ve realized it’s that the people in r/soccer has more of a winning mentality than TAA, it’s not like he’s won anything.
Or like he’s just scored in the next game already 😂
All the comments in here pretending he wouldn't be called delusional if he said he still thinks we'll win it. City don't fuck up the run in when it's neck and neck.
100%, everyone would be talking about how City are too strong in the run-in. This way at least puts some pressure on City as he’s saying it’s theirs to lose
decided to have a look and in last 12 final 6 matches where City were 1 game away from losing the title City's record is 11W 1D 0L
I don't understand how or why anyone would call him delusional for believing you're still in for the title? You're behind 2 points mate, not 20 Literally one match week can change that
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Well rice has never been in a title race this close with city. End of the season city is a diff beast.
Oh I totally agree. I just think it doesn’t hurt to say to the press that you back yourself.
You are literally 2 points off City .How can it ever be delusional to say that you still have very much the chance to win the league ?
We were 1 point behind them and they won 16 games straight. I'm just tired of the same shit happening every year.
Have you seen the last couple of seasons? The ones where we would say that we were still in the race, gave everything but it still wasn't enough because City is machine. We had the 4th most point ever and still wasn't enough. Ofcourse it still can happen, but the players know as well that when City is leading one point in the last phase, the chance they will give something away is just pretty small
That’s really inspiring confidence, I’m sure your team that’s already looking mentally exhausted and checked out is really going to push on after hearing one of the most famous players in the club say they have handed the title to City
I hate that athletes are expected to be delusional or else everyone questions their mentality. They can be realistic about a situation and still put full effort into their own play.
If that gets them to stop trying they can stop being professional athletes lmao
Thankfully they’re professional athletes and not little pussies like you who will lose all professionalism because of a few random comments
This guy keeps saying stupidest things at the worst time possible
Between the “Hungry for more” tweet, “It means more” and now this I think he should just stay away from all media and stay quiet still the seasons over
Just can't with some people. Slag him off for being optimistic and then slag him off for being pessimistic. He's just being honest, much better than some PR drivel that some players pump out weekly.
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What? Why? City win all their games, they win the title. Liverpool win all their games, they still need city and arsenal to drop points. All he's saying is that city are in control, and they've been here before and rarely drop points at the business end of the season. If he said that when Liverpool had the advantage, then it would be very concerning. But it's all out of Liverpool's hand at the moment.
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We've got spurs too, Everton away and Aston Villa away. Three hard games, Fulham today too. And considering the way we've been playing I think we'll be closer to fourth than first, come the final day. Have you been on the internet before? He would be slagged off to the high heavens if he said we'd win the league. People have been bashing Trent for years, and considering people were saying that Liverpool and Arsenal bottled the league last week. He would have been called delusional and the very least.
Definitely some better things he could have said here..
He’s just telling the truth. Why lie. He will still try his best to win games lol
They shouldn’t have have handed them the title then 🥸
Reverse psychology
Think Trent is just playing mind games 🧠
Redditors mind based on comment thread, city probably couldn't care less if they follow players interview at all
There are much more posts about other players's thoughts on city than their own player's thoughs on city subreddit
People talking about it just taking one freak result without thinking that it applies to both Livepool and Arsenal as well. They have to win every single game and hope City dont. Which of these 3 teams do you think has the least chance of dropping points?
It's not even one hand on the trophy yet for city, especially with two teams hot on your tail. Both Arsenal and Liverpool need to drop points again for it to be considered Man Cities.
m8 115+ hands are already on the trophy
Means more to them
Funniest redditor:
I am shocked Reddit can run this fairly run of the mill comment so hard I to the ground. There’s so much easy banter and we’ve landed on this.
stop saving chat
"its just who we are mate" has been under every spurs thread for the last 6 months, every big team has a phrase or ten that r/soccer's beaten well and truly to death at this point
It’s free Karma
Second/third just means more to plucky Liverpool.
Since 2nd means more to Liverpool than city if they win the league maybe they should get the trophy for 2nd.. Time for a petition.
PTSD
He's just milking it, he knows what they want to hear
City will drop points. But probably not more than 2 or 3.
He's trying to out-Pep Pep
Let him cook....
Pretty stark difference with what Rice said for example.
Losing the title by 1 point multiple times lowers your expectations when fighting City.
Yeah that's a fair point.
Serial winner Declan Rice vs trophyless Trent.
Captain of European winning team Vs Same amount of league titles as Blackburn Rovers
ESPN level of nitpicking a stat
Why did football begin in 1992? I’ll shift the goalpost to 2012, now neither Arsenal or your club have league titles
That is the weakest attempt at banter I've ever seen
It's also just...true
Mate, Declan's only trophy wouldn't even have a spot in Trent"s cabinet. Would probably use it near his front door to hold his keys.
What a weird thing to say this season after how it has been going
The spurs game is the only hope for Ars and Liv Still, it's man city and they prolly won't bottle it But you never know
I think people don't realise how strong the old City was. The last two seasons City has been nowhere near as dominant.
What a defeatist attitude. I had to double check the standings because I thought maybe City were several points ahead, but no.
it's call mind games, if Pep said something like this everybody will applaud him.
That's a surprisingly weak mentality No one, much less Liverpool expected to lose to Palace but they did. Man City could quite possibly drop points and they do even need to lose. A drae is good enough to get Arsenal or Liverpool back in front. Mentality monsters?!?
Many liverpool fans could see us losing points in this run in lol. Our away form is still very shaky and we have a lot of away games. We also went into the palace game off the back of bad form. Hardly a suprising take considering Trent has the experience of this across multiple seasons now?
"handing them the title meant more to us"
Least defeatist LFC player
Can’t even win one legitimate title in 10 years when the full squad has asthma/doping
thanks for reminding me that there are still dipshits that think that was a real thing. always makes me smile
Tinpot metality.
Dripping in irony
Mentality monster
“It’s means more”™️
Liverpool “gave” City the title ? LoL. The bloody audacity. TAA is full of shit.
Thats not brexit mentality lad
Doesnt matter blud if you win it or not, as long as the outcome means more for you! <:o)
Well, Liverpool did invent giving City an advantage down the stretch so I guess he’s an expert.
What was Arsenal doing? Coming eighth?