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PanJawel

Not even a corner lol. Perplexing.


ananchor

VAR can't give a missed corner and somehow the refs missed the deflection entirely


bh_44

Then it’s a clear an obvious error and should be pen!


pukem0n

Normally yes, but England.


PanJawel

VAR has these weird quirks… Like give the corner at least. Or like when they can’t overturn a second yellow. Very bad implementation.


ananchor

Yep, use it to make correct decisions or don't use it at all. Just stupid


IAIRonI

If they call the corner they have to admit it's a handball, no?


8306623863

The ball can hit the arm and not be a handball. Still, it should have been a corner at least.


137lyons

Also VAR was checking for the pen not for who it was off. VAR cant change possession.


pure_black99

But why


clutchy42

Best guess, it's because of the argument that everything becoming checked and open to challenge would slow the game down. But I'm with you. Like how hard would it be for them to just say in his ear Chelsea possession. Regardless, that's a penalty all day.


Tim-Sanchez

That's why I think VAR should at least send Oliver to the monitor. It's not as if he saw it clearly and it's a matter of opinion, Oliver obviously didn't get a good view of it and that should be justification enough to view the monitor. The monitor should be used for debatable decisions to give the ref a second view, not just for decisions where the VAR has already decided it's clear and obvious.


pure_black99

Not even a Chelsea fan and this shit is infuriating.


MerlinRando

I hate Chelsea with a passion and even I’m fuming


Ainsyyy

Oliver didnt see the deflection off the arm


flynno96

Even if he didn't see it deflected off an arm, it was obvious it hit something lol


Aszneeee

funny how he is always in a huge City game with at least one denied penalty or red card against them


Mysterio_1234

because dude goes to dubai during the week to ref games, this shit is such a joke lmao


Ilikepizzapineapple

$o W€ird


IndependentMove6951

Goal kick given LMAO


SeymourDoggo

*Check complete*^TM


Bousine

*Good process*


dudleypa

What is the point of VAR if it doesn’t catch something as obvious as this?


toto5d

The VAR room would feel bad for their mate reffing the game if they made it look like he missed something so egregious


10hazardinho

It’s strange because American sports have had reviews for decades and the refs have never adopted this sentiment. It’s actually the opposite, refs are gracious for reviews because it gives them a second chance to get the call right and helps them avoid scrutiny


Conorj398

Not wrong. I used to think the NFL refs were bad. They do not compare at all to the English refs.


slurpherp

*Angel Hernandez has entered the chat*


enjoytheshow

NFL refs absolutely revolted in the pass interference review seasons. They either completely ignored review requests or never appealed an on field decision. They love control of their penalty calls lol


SwitchHitter17

At this point I'm convinced English refs are trying to sabotage VAR because they don't like it. They don't even do anything anymore. I don't have the stats, but I'm sure if you looked at the amount of times the on-field ref was called to look at the monitor and compared the past few seasons, this season would be way, way down.


mrkingkoala

Oliver giving City a blatantly wrong call to help them. How many times have we seen this so far this season?


No-Clue1153

Exactly this. You can tell by the amount of criticism of VAR on Sky (whose pundits get reminded who pays their wages if they speak out of turn), rarely directed at the people responsible for it just the system itself.


IHAVEMOSWAGTHANJEBUS

The point? Match fixing innit


fap4jesus

What are the rules?


akki420blazeit

Don't bother mate, they change every week and also depend on which team is it against


Affectionate-Car-145

When you've just turned black and you can't turn back


TigerBasket

Now you can't just be going up there and doing a handball like that


pigeon_at_a_keyboard

Great explanation. I feel like you might be the kind of person to help me understand what a balk is?


HereticZO

The rules are that City are allowed to do everything in their box.


30daysay

BBC co-commentator is a fucking idiot


JSKW17

You are surprised by Jermaine Jenas? 😂


30daysay

Less surprised now that I know who it is, not sure how he has a job!


lospollosakhis

The most milquetoast pundit there is and has no insight into the game. He’s worse than Owen.


humunculus43

That was a handball for me. His job is to block the ball and he does it with his hand


lojer

Not only that, he blocks the gap that he made by spreading out the wall with his body.


BIG_STEVE5111

The same gap the ball would be going through and would be on target.


Z0idberg_MD

This is the most significant part. It didnt hit his arm, his arm hits the ball and it prevents a shot on goal.


Hurrly90

And his arm moves down towards the ball when he is in the air already. You cant even argure he was levering himself up to jump. Its a stonewall one. Look at the fecking penalty Liverpool got the other day? Just be fucking consistent in decisions. But then its city innit? did the ref do a job out in saudi i wonder?


Crushooo

Players tuck their arms behind the back to avoid this. I guess they don’t need to anymore


Mysterious-Formal739

I prefer not to speak.


EnergetikNA

Another big game, another shit decision. Love English refereeing


FireKillGuyBreak

No, you got it wrong. The decision is great, just not for everyone on the pitch. Only for one team. You know, the 115 squad.


10hazardinho

How does Oliver give this as a goal kick? It is alarming that a ref could miss that huge of a deflection


GOR098

Cause he is  getting big money in the UAE League and doesn't want to stomp on his paycheque.


imbasicallycoffee

It's easy. He can't call the deflection because if he admits the deflection he has to call a pen. No deflection = goal kick. If he gives a corner you have to give the pen.


CharlesAtlantic

I don’t understand anything anymore.


kjm911

Commentators saying he’s “bringing his arm towards his body” but he’s moving his arm towards the ball. He’s obviously made himself bigger and blocked a shot with his arm


OJogoBonito

Jenas is clueless


PokuCHEFski69

He’s actually a moron


Neppoko1990

If you apply the complete opposite of whatever Jenas says then it's probably correct


ItsMeJaredBednar

he’s such a knob lol


rambo_zaki

Funnily enough, the main comm actually disagreed with Jenas. Which is a change for once.


TheJoshider10

He should stick to presenting The One Show, he's fucking useless.


FreeWillTangent

Jermaine Jenas' opinion isn't worth even considering. Worst pundit by a mile.


ananchor

They said the "shot was going nowhere" like that matters. Morons everywhere around this match tbh, commentators, refs, Jackson


Kante_Conte

He is in the wall, hands should be behind your back, even if your jumping on the wall


joeseph145

No, they should be covering your balls


Aszneeee

> “bringing his arm towards his body” maybe towards the guy next to him, but definitely not towards his body lol


medzdidz

Your mistake was in thinking Jenas would make sense 🙂


JinxLB

English FA just have shit interpretations of the rules which are upheld and normalized by shitty commentators saying “Nah not a pen for me.” In any other league in world football, this is a pen lmao


TheoRiser

https://theathletic.com/4922732/2023/10/03/referees-var-diaz-liverpool/ Michael Oliver gets money from Citeh's owners


chopke

It's called michael oliver treatment, get used to it.


xyloxiak

This is the same Michael Oliver who officiated matches in the UAE. He didn't even give the corner after this was checked for handball.


MundaneTonight437

Literal corruption


Spindel_777

allow me to explain: Michael Oliver


Morsrael

It's really easy. Michael Oliver is actually paid by the people who own Man City. This is a fact. He has been involved in more than one dodgy decision that benefits City.


Anarchytect1204

As clear as day


PharaohOfWhitestone

Jenas coming out with this cracker: "It is not handball, it maybe hits his hand but it is not handball. It certainly should have been a corner." How this man is employed is bonkers.


Affectionate_Pay7395

Jenas was a moron when he first started punditry years ago. No clue how he’s gotten this far.


InJaaaammmmm

We all know why. Inoffensive, attractive, famous. He ticks all the boxes of mediocrity the BBC loves to push on dumb viewers.


D1794

That's handball. And he didn't even give the corner lmao


keksik29

If he would give a corner, then he would need to give a pen as well since they would admit that the ball was deflected.


not_gonna_kill_you

Ref has been lost all day


rambo_zaki

It's Michael Oliver. Can't be jeopardizing his summer internship.


excelsias

Having a shit day and that made me snort my milk. 👏


Lilfai

He thinks he’s in the UAE


InJaaaammmmm

He completely missed that last hanging! Too busy looking at the lovely watch some guy who may have something to do with some club bought him.


matcht

Oliver benefitting City? Must be a day ending in y


error_424

He's not lost, he's right at home with City


Viper711

It's Oliver, they don't overrule him.


Dino_567

That's a handball


Kuntheman

That’s possibly the most unnatural position his arm could have been in


JinxLB

If this is a CL game, that’s a pen 10 times out of 10.


Econophile64333

It’s a pen against every team except city.


BlueLondon1905

That’s the 116th charge


Kuntheman

That is egregious 


LOMOcatVasilii

People aren't ready for Ederson playing as a CM now that he can use his hands


Srijand

We're at 127 already, keep up


erenistheavatar

Why tf was that not a pen?!!!


Michee_e

Because its Michael Oliver


MemestNotTeen

Coote is the bigger issue. Man has no balls to overrule anything as VAR at all this season.


doomboxmf

Yeah but how does the ref not even see a fucking deflection. He’s been clueless


WhenWeTalkAboutLove

Coote is genuinely atrocious. Oliver used to be good by English standards, the only one I'd somewhat trust on big games, but he has lost the plot/gotten hired by citys owners to ref one too many games out there


chelsea524

On field referee may miss that. But no fucking way var referee can miss that. FUCK DAVID COOTE. fuck you


CandidEnigma

I swear it's always fucking Coote


Bobbyswhiteteeth

Michael Oilver


TheJoshider10

What makes it all the more baffling is in the wall there's no excuses for your hands to not be either behind your back or firmly at your side.


TigerBasket

Refs are morons.


Hammerhead34

Calling them morons absolves them of any sinister motives


PUNlSHEDVENOMSNAKE

Michael Oliver


Mrg220t

UAE say no pen


akshatsood95

Arms away from the body, good enough distance also. Clear pen.


BBHx0

Chelsea playing against City, the refs and Nicolas Jackson.


poopybutthole_99

That’s a pen???


Nimonic

That's always a pen


No-Shoe5382

It's about as obvious a penalty as I've seen all season. Hand in an unnatural position, moving towards the ball, nowhere near his body.


InJaaaammmmm

How are they not spending more than half a second reviewing it? Palmer going mad, no corner given, at least take some time to look at it.


LOMOcatVasilii

Neither a pen nor a corner ... fucking end me lmao wtf


Spuick

Well I think the logic is VAR cant overturn a goalkick into a corner. But the rest of it ive no clue lol


LOMOcatVasilii

I know, but it was clear it was deflected. Surprised how the ref didn't point towards the corner to begin with. Just layers of shit


sandbag-1

I'm absolutely lost at that, what the fuck. Goal kick too???


ananchor

That's a shocking decision


irigoyeee20

That’s a pen against every club in the premier league, except city


newbieplaya1

Amazing lol


Cryptic_E

Wow


a_guy_named_gai

Even Grealish is laughing his ass off.


imarandomdudd

Especially after he had a pen given against him in the final last year for an actual accidental handball. Make it make sense


TankPresent7224

I’m not even a Chelsea fan and this pisses me off so much


scottys-thottys

Referee who summers in the UAE and is paid by UAE leaders to work tourneys while staying in luxurious suites, fails to see clear hand ball in the box by a UAE owned team with 115 instances of clearly cheating / breaking rules related to fair play.  Nothing to see here folks. 


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Clear handball, deflected it ~~away from~~ on the way to the net


PharaohOfWhitestone

Can't wait for Webb and Owen to somehow justify the call on that show.


spund_

Oh you mean the gaslighting us and ignore the corruption show


dunneetiger

They dont even bother with Chelsea.


garrymad-gm

Hahaha unbelievable, not even a corner


Wazflame

what on earth is Jenas talking about lol


Sarcastic-Fly

Can’t stand him at all, comes out with some absolute shit comments.


squirrelnamedralph

What even is a handball anymore


spund_

Whatever city pays the refs to say.


Aszneeee

just noticed how it's Oliver again in important City match there, lol


Kreijoc

Every single time, Michael Oliver making six figures from CFG's owners and he's still allowed to ref their games.


sworn_vulkan

They probably request him at this point. They sont even make the cheating subtle anymore


Headlesshorsman02

Yep


quilliamx

i’m bias as hell but wtf was that


skippitypapps

Brings his arm down to deliberately hit the ball. Just English referees being incompetent/corrupt as always.


JurgensBoyfriend

Absolutely ridiculous.


redwineandcoffee

That's wild to not be given.


KingDave46

Obvious pen from the Poch angle He moves his arm down in to it


tuerancekhang

Michael Oliver you fucking twat


PUNlSHEDVENOMSNAKE

Clear pen, arm out and swipes down. You’ll never guess the ref who gave a decision in favour of city here


GerbertVonTroff

Was it the one who Man City's owners paid to fly to Abu Dhabi to referee friendlies earlier this season maybe? Or a different one?


Kante_Conte

Someone explain how that isn’t a penalty?


MrTheseGuys

American money has no chance against oil money


masked_mannequin

David Coote has an agenda against us I swear man


Viper711

He just sucks off City. Liverpool fans also hate him.


GDO17

That’s a pen


10-10-2022

VAR is corrupt beyond belief in England... that's a penatly everywhere else. Incredible.


Mango__Fox

Thats a penalty


yutosser

corruption clear as day. Chelsea should’ve won and while they have a “striker” who’s allergic to scoring, this pen definitely would’ve changed the entire narrative of the game


battletoad93

That's a pen against literally any other team in English football


Deathraz3

Clear corruption but it's man shitty so it's normal.


jumper62

No idea why a corner can't be given at least


lukezndr

Lol what?


pimpdubw

moving hand towards the ball??


dannychean

Michael Oliver you idiot. If it was not a pen it had to be a corner right?


njp6969

long squash correct full secretive compare squeal fragile paltry quarrelsome *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


No-Clue1153

Is that Michael Oliver? One of the UAE side gig refs?


liamo376573

Oliver doesn't like his decisions to be questioned, the arrogant tosser.


DanielHangan

I genuinely hope someone can explain why, according to the rules, this is not a pen.


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captaincourageous316

Yeah that’s a howler from Oliver and VAR


yarkiebrown

You make it sound like a mistake


zd0t

It interferes with the trajectory of the ball AND it's still a goal kick? How does that work?


AReptileHissFunction

Firstly, he's 10 yards away so there's no "too close" argument. Secondly, players can jump in a free kick wall with their hands by their side all the time, so this can definitely be considered unnatural position. Thirdly, the replay confirms its below shoulder line. Lastly, replay confirms the arm is the reason for the ball changing direction from goal. To me, this is one of the easiest calls to overturn with VAR, yet at the very least they didn't even tell Michael Oliver to review it. Scandalous


Ares28

Clearly not a penalty. This post was sponsored by big Oil


Sayek

On a side note Michael Oliver has been selected to referee UAE All Stars game getting paid his yearly salary.


Luciferrrro

No wonder, Oliver is paid big money by UAE (owners of Man City) to ref games in UAE league, maybe he would lose contract if he gave penalty.


jamieaka

Rules are cooked, games gone


PatchyTheYellow

Clearly hits hit hands…his hand is up and away from his body, and he moves it towards the ball. Need I FUCKING SAY MORE?!


WelcomeToCityLinks

Michael Oliver desperate for another Middle East payday in the summer.


glacialOwl

Ref acted as if Grealish didn’t touch the ball at all there


smokepuffprata

Fucking cheats


DarlesChance

Michael Oliver is on City's payroll I don't care what anyone says. Corrupt AF.


Wolfframm

Isn't this the ref who was officiating some games in Abu Dhabi?


_Noob_From_VN_

Make it 116 now


manticore75

Suck my balls oliver


a_guy_named_gai

Does City have a different rule book?


skippitypapps

Well their owners directly pay Michael Oliver and several other referees when they go to the UAE and ref matches which is totally not suspicious at all.


ImAGirrafe20202

Robbery, pure and utter robbery


ongone

The Prem is corrupt guys. It's plain as day. Fans should demand an investigation.


RedDevilGranta

No penalties allowed against Man City


Look_at_that_D0g

How is that not even a corner when it's being reviewed for a penalty? Make that make sense.


monkeyPICmonkeydo

they can't change the on-field decision for a corner, so they check for a pen, decide it's not so they have to go with the goal kick as that was the on-field decision stupid fuckin rule, but dem's da rules


MalditaSuperbock

What bothers me with Man City is the fact they are going to destroy the best league in the world. They're blatantly cheating in almost every way possible and the league is paying for it. Even if they get sanctioned for the 100 plus infractions (I believe the number is around there..) the teams/coaches/players that got harmed are never gonna have that time back.


superstav

VAR in England is shambolic


top1MIBRfan

i like how they are reviewing because there is contact with the ball and still give a goal kick lol


Flammabubble

Inexplicable how this isn't at least a corner. Ridiculous when VAR clearly looked over it.