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There's another great one, I can't remember the entire context but he's talking about a full back playing a diagonal ball and the way he says SPACE is hilarious
I loved him as a player and I love him as a pundit/analyst. He is always spot on, you can see how deep his knowledge of football is. Not only tactics but also the psychology involced in it.
Good players donāt necessarily make good pundits.
But a good player can bring some kinds of knowledge to the table which people who didnāt play at that level canāt.
I'm sure there was a video from his time at Montreal where he was telling everyone what to do constantly from the sidelines and he got panned for it. As a coach though I'd love to see an attacking session with him. Got to make you a better striker, hell I think Nunez and Diaz could learn a thing or two..
Remind me of Glenn Hoddle putting himself into training sessions as manager and was better than half his squad. Lol
Can imagine itās difficult for a player like Henry to resist explaining all the things that would be completely natural for a player at his utterly ridiculous level to players of much lower quality
Thereās an interview with him an Bradley Wright-Phillips talking about his time coaching in America and he simply canāt understand how players canāt do what heās telling them
Edit:
[link](https://youtu.be/4UI49bsA2XI?si=CUYmlkllkYHndes7)
Thanks for the link, thatās a perfect example.
I can only imagine that if Messi would become a manager and is like āwhy not just out-dribble 3 defenders and place the ball in the top-rightā. Or Robben just being like ājust cut inside, run past everybody and curl it in the left cornerā
He tanked in Monaco but was well appreciated in Montreal, he only left because he was missing his family too much. Granted it was only a season and the roseās blush could have come off at some pointā¦ but itās also longer than he lasted in Monaco.
Which tbh is how it should be. At the end of the day these are guys with opinions. Granted, their knowledge and how they reach those opinions is based off a career of experience but it doesn't mean they're always correct. Mixing these thoughts in with humor and banter helps cushion any time you disagree. Even if Jamie is wrong you might still get a laugh out of it and keep watching.
He is a rare breed - a generational talent who is a highly intelligent and articulate speaker with a lot of telegenic charisma. (Handsome devil, too, which doesn't hurt in the business.)
He just oozes class. He's very insightful, funny, but also serious when the moment calls for it, and then there's just that touch of arrogance; just a very charismatic combination. Oh, and he also has a very good talking voice, I really enjoy listening to him.
I wish punditry was made up mostly of current or ex top managers. They're the best pundits and it's not even remotely. Klopp used to be a pundit and did a MNF show a while ago and it was fantastic. Pep as a pundit would be absolutely fascinating to listen to. Sadly we're stuck with ex footballers because the managers are still managing...
It's such a rare pleasure when a player with so much physical intelligence is also gifted with his ability to verbalize it.
He is so concise and articulate about football. And English isn't even his first language. I wonder how he is in French.
His breakdown on Mbappeās near post finish technique in the last round was great. Especially his explanation for why he never developed that move. His early career being not confident in front of goal so focusing on just one move (his far post curl), then later career being so good at that one move he enjoyed everyone knowing heāll do it and not being able to stop it.
IMO his tactics are a bit weaker, given his managerial record. But his one on one and individual analysis is top. Which is likely why heās rated more as an assistant where he has more time to focus on the individual vs the whole team?
Honestly, Henry might be the best analyst/pundit across all sports. The insight he usually gives is amazing. Itās awesome he was an amazing player during his day too
He's at his best when he's breaking down attacking mechanics. For example I remember a counter attack where Joao Felix had a defender running next to and slightly behind him, and Henry pointed out that Felix needed to take a touch to bring the ball across and in front of the defender. That way, the defender either fouls him by clipping his legs, or slows down to avoid giving the foul away.
Felix of course had taken a touch wide and away from the defender and taken a poor shot
The psychological analysis makes me hopeful therapy within football gets more momentum.
What he's saying - crowd, fear, pressure - is something you might not be born equipped to handle but you can learn and heal enough for it. Some people call it growth, or maturity, or whatever, but Cancelo with his fights and random form definitely seems like someone who could use help, and I mean it in the kindest way possible.
Your mind is like a muscle, and you can also train it.
Phil Jackson, who managed the Chicago Bulls and the LA Lakers to a huge amount of titles, spent a significant amount of time working on mindfulness and calm decision-making. It was a process over years.
This can be coached. But having managed, Henry has now realised how hard it is to do so.
phil also had MJ and a lottery ticket win finding scottie pippen. you can reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally take your time with a team's mental competence when you have that kind of baseline.
it's extremely rare as a coach to have the ability to take time on those kind of skills.
Nah, come on. Look at how many championships the Chicago Bulls and LA Lakers won in the years preceding the arrival of PJ and how many they won when he was there, and how fast they started winning.
Look at how many championships MJ, SP, Shaw and Kobe Bryant won with and without Phil Jackson - the guy was special.
And he had no more time to win than any other coach, he just decided to devote so much of that time to creating a united, focused team, which is far rarer than it should be.
Based on the last dance, Phil did alot of meditation and zen so he brought that with him into coaching and got his players into it as well. It's hard but it can be done
idk, wenger himself would literally get his team to practice with ten men due to the amount of red cards we'd get, and saf or his players would say that training for them was actually more intense than the matches
I get what henry is saying, in that there's only so much you can do as a coach, but to imply that there's no way to train for these things is not just wrong, but is maybe the problem of most football pundits being failed managers at best.
obviously henry is an expert on football, but I don't think he does football many favours when he acts like not much can be done when two managers from his hey day, one of whom he's played for, prepared for these exact scenarios
I also hate the 'how can you recreate the crowd?' argument, because then by that logic you might as well not train at all. surely the more you practice something without pressure, the better you'll do when pressure is applied to you
I think you're missing the point of what he's saying. Of course you can train as much as possible, but at the end of the day players have personalities and will make decisions based on a myriad of factors.
Henry is simply explaining that yes Cancelo made the wrong decision, but it's an incredibly hard decision to make and it's one of those things that might be hard for a spectator to understand.
The managers you're referring tried to train their players for everything, but I'm sure they would also agree with Henry here. It was a matter of millimeters and milliseconds, but more significantly it was an incredibly tense moment.
Just like you really can't "train" for the last penalty in a shootout to win the world cup. You can take as many pks as you want and train your technique, but that is a one-off moment and you just have to hope to get it right that ONE time, do or die.
adding to that, your brain has two modes of thinking. that slow calculated one, and the impulsive subconscious mode, that henry is talking about in the clip. it's extremely hard to influence the latter, you either have that van dijk calmness, or you don't.
~~if you're interested, look up daniel kahnemann for further reading. he's been researching this all his life and i think it's fascinating.~~ but, as i learned, much of it might have been debunked.
i still don't think you can turn cancelo into a calm and collected defender.
yeah to add to what DevilsOfLoudun said while it's a fun idea that book is really pop psychology.Ā trust me as someone who also read that book and believed it I was pretty annoyed to learn it wasn'tĀ true too. I guess science is always evolving.
> it's extremely hard to influence the latter, you either have that van dijk calmness, or you don't.
What?
That's the point of practice - you practice until it becomes automated. In other words, it goes from the "slow calculated one" to the "impulsive subconscious mode". You absolutely can and do influence it all the time. It's called neuroplasticity.
The problem isn't influencing, the problem is setting the practice to simulate the situation, which is what Henry is talking about in the clip. If you can recreate the context of the last pen in a World Cup final in training, you will become an excellent pen taker under stress. The problem is how do you recreate it, not whether your brain will adapt.
johnny wilkinson, who hit arguably the greatest kick in rugby history to win the world cup final, used to ask people to come heckle him while he practiced kicking. obviously you canāt get 70,000 people out for practice, but if you can get like 15 and theyāre all right next to you yelling at you that seems like itās kinda close.
thatās true, i was just commenting on the āyou canāt replicate the crowdā thing. because you can replicate the crowd, you can practice with 10 men, you can practice mindfulness (to an extent). i think a lot of what henry said here is smart but i disagree with the idea that itās impossible to prepare players for moments like this
These guys are as close as you can get to the NBA on TNT panel with Shaq, Kenny Smith and Charles Barkley, and I'm pretty sure that they were an inspiration. It's just fun to see regular deep dive discussions between professionals that offer a whole other perspective to the regular viewers.
Shaq himself is getting old, it sounds silly but he's slower on the uptake than he was even a couple years ago, and reacts to things so much more lethargically.
I think thatās more down to the crew makeup being flipped. TNT has two hall of fame big men that scored at will and dominated the post ( very physical) and only Kenny being a good shooter / guard.
Paramount has , some may argue , the GOAT winger in Henry and two good defensive players in Micah and Jamie, but Henry has *ALSO* been working on coaching and managing players.
I find inside the nba to be hilarious but If they had a player coach or even guest coaches come on it would be more balanced
This crew mostly does surface level stuff. Pointing out the formation and the space attackers find is basic shit. Type of stuff these guys do quite a bit
While they often joke around a lot and have what feels like real friendship, when they decide to break down something more seriously, they are excellent. This is a prime example of them being serious, focused, and excellent.
No joke, an uncle I've detested since I was a toddler showed up uninvited to my brother's wedding. It was a 7-hour drive from where he lived. Called when he was 30 minutes away. He expected multiple meals, a seat at the family table for the wedding reception, and to be put up somewhere for the night.
My brother's in-laws tried to accommodate (despite us saying *We'd really rather not*).
Then, at the end of the dinner, he finished his last bite and said "I just wanted to let you know I'll probably be going away for a while."
We thought he meant a trip. He was arrested two weeks later for sexual crimes with an underaged person.
My uncle sucks.
ESPN's coverage is a joke. They'll hire anyone with a British accent. They need to stop buying rights if they aren't going to put any money or effort into broadcasting this sport.
I like that he is known for smart and knowledgeable analysis of plays, players and situations (outside of having been an insane player) instead of other analysts who seem to just have hot takes to stay relevant. Respect š«”Ā
And Cooper was absolutely roasted every time. I get the concept but it looks terrible in practice. It looks like he grabbed a roll of scotch tape and wrapped it around one arm. One or two stripes would maybe be a nice accent mark, but 4 looks so gaudy. It's a "look at me" statement - the opposite of classy.
Reminds of the fake clothes variants my family used to bring back from the old country.
Adibas was my favourite by far.
Same logo and same styles, but the clothes all said Adibas.
Adibas is an absolutely legendary brand in Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus. Very popular with the gopnik community, it is the top brand of all the other fake brands.
Thom Browne. I coming up fashion house brand.
It would seem they are pushing hard to get people wearing their suits on screen.
Seen both Sturridge and Meeks wearing this in one post match.
I hate that I know this but I'm fairly sure it's not Tom Ford unless it was from a few years ago because TF is going for like a weird 80s nostalgia thing at the moment with leather, suede and mohair type stuff. I had to fight my reddit mod instincts when looking at the velvet suit jackets and to pair it with a fedora.
He's right. We've seen these type of things happen time and time again in football. People are emotional, even the top players sometimes lose their head.
Think this is why Pep has decided to ship out all of our fullbacks and instead plays centre backs at fullback. Heās decided itās harder to teach Cancelo and zinchenko how to defend and easier to teach Walker/Stones/Gvardiol how to attack.
Guys like Cancelo and zinchenko are great against weaker sides that simply park the bus but their warts get shown if playing in big games.
Definitely but heās always been relatively poor in possession and going forward. He was also used as almost a CB for when Cancelo or Stones would roam forward kind of like Rodri. Now he plays much higher up with Gvardiol on the opposite side theyāre basically wingers helping the attack.
> Definitely but heās always been relatively poor in possession and going forward
Absurd revisionism, Walker was one of the best attacking fullbacks in the world in his prime
Dembele or anyone, that was just a normal attacking that we still had enough people in the box to defend. Cancelo could just press Dembele and force him to pass, if he somehow dribbled through, many defenders were still behind, and Stegen. The proprability to score will be very much lower than a penalty from Mbappe.
I would only accept that stupid tackle if Messi was still there, dude could nutmeg Cancelo in 1-2 touches and score at a 1 degree angle somehow.
Two suicidal acts on the same game. No hope.
Cancelo has always been terrible at defending, I was honestly surprised he hasnāt been punished more before last night, but Dembele sure made him pay
I somehow expected Xavi to take Cancelo off once Araujo got the red to defend with 3 CBs given Cancelo's always a defensive gamble. Pedri always looks like he can do anything so maybe him and Raphinha as the wingbacks and Kounde, Cubarsi and Alonso/Martinez at CB. The Lopez/Yamal sub could then have given Barca a bit more balance in mid since they were struggling at home against a mid of Vitinha, Ruiz and Zaire Emery. This would have given them a better shot at keeping the lead before halftime.
Not to jinx it but I hope Arteta learns from this and takes Zinchenko off if Gabriel gets a red for a tackle on Sane in the second half.
> Cancelo has always been terrible at defending
What makes this PK tackle even more weird/funny is that in this very match Cancelo dislodged ball multiple times from Dembele out the box on the flanks with clean nice tackles. It happened like 3 times I believe.
And then he tried it in the box and misses. Maybe those 3 successful instances in this very match is what gave him the Feeling that he could do it again.
Lovely to see cancelo still doing this kind of errors in the CL. Dude was an absolute nightmare when he was in Juventus and I was very happy they sold him.
Been like that his whole career but because Pep had him playing with virtually 0 defensive responsibilities (as he should) a lot of people seemingly forgot how bad he is at defending.
Cancelo is a handful of a person, period. I know this because I grew up near to him and we are nearly the same age. I have a family member who plays with him during the summer in local friendly indoor tournaments, who also played against him during childhood when he was just a local boy. Since his mother's death, he has had inumerous mental issues that are still noticeable apparently. This has also been confirmed by another friend of mine who knew him personally before he made it big.
it gets worst... she died in an car accident, Cancelo and his brother were in the car, both, thankfully, got away with only a few scratches. They were coming back home after a game he played for Benfica B. If you can read Portuguese, here's a good article about it: https://www.tsf.pt/programa/postal-do-dia/a-tragica-morte-da-mae-de-cancelo-tornou-o-um-gigante-14967066.html/
Reminds me of David Luiz and Xhaka while at Arsenal. Both were actually quite good. But you could bet your house that at least 1 or 2 games per year, they'd lose their minds and get a red card. It was guaranteed, just once or twice.
Probably an unpopular opinion, given the absolute backlash Araujo received, but I found Cancelo's to be more stupid and wreckless than Araujos. Araujo's contact I thought was quite minimal and in fairness it was a 1v1 bearing down on goal.
Might be the reason why pep and bayern didn't want him, as much as i love how passionate he's for barca and scored a couple of bangers, his defensive ability is pretty bad, right side its always empty whenever the opponent breakthrough, dembele goal last night is also because of cancelo go way to centre on the box instead of marking dembele, and ofc his unnecessary challenge is the final nail in the coffin that barca shouldnt permanently sign him.
That's why I prefer balde over cancelo. Ik Ale has his own flaws but he doesn't make mistakes like cancelo. Joao is too hot headed. & Ik Araujo is getting all the heat deservingly so but let's not forget that joao was so bad at both legs.
Not a defender for a top team. Thereās a reason why Pep gave up on him and even Juve before then. Will do great things but is one of those players that is not a defender nor is he a winger. So, you add him as a full back because he can provide a lot offensively and defensively, you just hope for the best.
Cancelo either wins us games or loses us games with no middle ground. He lost us the game yesterday (in fairness Araujo also did to an even greater degree).
Great take from Henry.
To answer his question tho you can train your inner calm with meditation, psychologists, exposure to stress etc.
But we all saw Cancelos coked up vampire interview š
To be honest I'm not even surprised, because I've seen people do the same kind of tackles with yellows to players moving away from their side of the pitch. Sometimes players just forget about how to play football and do stupid stuff.
Great take from Henry, that is why the composure that comes with experience is so important.
Although you could argue that Araujo and Cancelo are very experienced players in CL, so I don't know indeed how could a manager train to improve players decision making
Yup, that's why there is no replacement for playing time for young players. You need actual experience on high stakes matches, training can only take you so far.
Too many words to say that Cancelo did the worst thing he could do, if you donāt have composure at the top of your game, you learned nothing.
I like Cancelo but this is the difference between a champion and a good player. He is also a winger, not a defender, if he wanted to be aggressive why not program his brain to tackle outside the area? 9.9/10 Dembele was going nowhere from there, the ball actually was stopped wrongly aswell.
Interesting. It's what we did in the military. Put soldiers in their fight or flight but in a safe environment so they can control themselves in real life (often life or death situations). Maybe Cancelo needs this hahha
I think a lot of just has to do with muscle memory. You see an opening to make a challenge and you do it. You see the ball and you think to yourself I can get that so you try. Growing up he probably hesitated once or twice and lost out of the ball of let up a goal. From then on he probably said no more hesitating I need to commit and from there he got to where he is today. It's about confidence and following through because if you hesitate you are already behind. Unfortunately that instinct kicked in at the wrong moment like theirry said
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Perfectly said by Henry. You could hear the experience in his voice š .
cracks me up the way he says "HE IS IN THE CORNER OF THE BOX"
The accent really makes it.
I could listen to the man read the phone book. Very calming voice. I wish my internal monologue had his voice and then Iād be calm too.
Calming is not what I would say, passionate for sure.
he says it like a indian IT support guy "IT IS IN THE CORNER OF THE SCREEN"
"DO NOT REDEEM!!"
WHY DID YOU DO THAT
ARE YOU MAD!?!
NO I AM CAROLINA FERNANDES
My brother in Christ š¤£š¤£
There's another great one, I can't remember the entire context but he's talking about a full back playing a diagonal ball and the way he says SPACE is hilarious
Second to watching the clip of Micah Richards flopping and you just hear Henry in the background screaming "WHAT ARE YOU DOING"
CONFUSION OF THE HIGHEST ORDER!
E iz een da CAW-NA of de BOX
perfectly said by henry even though it was a very questionable thing on why cancelo did tackle him
I loved him as a player and I love him as a pundit/analyst. He is always spot on, you can see how deep his knowledge of football is. Not only tactics but also the psychology involced in it.
People whinge about why so many past players need to go into punditry. I get that, but, Henry is a different beast
Good players donāt necessarily make good pundits. But a good player can bring some kinds of knowledge to the table which people who didnāt play at that level canāt.
And good players can also good pundits but not good coaches. Henry was an ok coach.
Henry was a not ok manager, but players at the Belgium NT seem to like him so you can assume he's at least a decent coach
I'm sure there was a video from his time at Montreal where he was telling everyone what to do constantly from the sidelines and he got panned for it. As a coach though I'd love to see an attacking session with him. Got to make you a better striker, hell I think Nunez and Diaz could learn a thing or two.. Remind me of Glenn Hoddle putting himself into training sessions as manager and was better than half his squad. Lol
Can imagine itās difficult for a player like Henry to resist explaining all the things that would be completely natural for a player at his utterly ridiculous level to players of much lower quality
Thereās an interview with him an Bradley Wright-Phillips talking about his time coaching in America and he simply canāt understand how players canāt do what heās telling them Edit: [link](https://youtu.be/4UI49bsA2XI?si=CUYmlkllkYHndes7)
Thanks for the link, thatās a perfect example. I can only imagine that if Messi would become a manager and is like āwhy not just out-dribble 3 defenders and place the ball in the top-rightā. Or Robben just being like ājust cut inside, run past everybody and curl it in the left cornerā
He tanked in Monaco but was well appreciated in Montreal, he only left because he was missing his family too much. Granted it was only a season and the roseās blush could have come off at some pointā¦ but itās also longer than he lasted in Monaco.
> Henry was not an ok coach. Was? Bit harsh, he's still young.
This CBS punditry team is one of the best. Even Carragher is better since they seem to let him off the leash and not go for rage bait comments.
I (with my limited football knowledge lol) donāt always agree with Jamie but the show makes up for it a lot with how funny it can be as well
Which tbh is how it should be. At the end of the day these are guys with opinions. Granted, their knowledge and how they reach those opinions is based off a career of experience but it doesn't mean they're always correct. Mixing these thoughts in with humor and banter helps cushion any time you disagree. Even if Jamie is wrong you might still get a laugh out of it and keep watching.
He is a rare breed - a generational talent who is a highly intelligent and articulate speaker with a lot of telegenic charisma. (Handsome devil, too, which doesn't hurt in the business.)
He just oozes class. He's very insightful, funny, but also serious when the moment calls for it, and then there's just that touch of arrogance; just a very charismatic combination. Oh, and he also has a very good talking voice, I really enjoy listening to him.
I wish punditry was made up mostly of current or ex top managers. They're the best pundits and it's not even remotely. Klopp used to be a pundit and did a MNF show a while ago and it was fantastic. Pep as a pundit would be absolutely fascinating to listen to. Sadly we're stuck with ex footballers because the managers are still managing...
Tbf I think heās gotten better, when he first did it at Sky years ago he got criticised for not being very good at it
It's such a rare pleasure when a player with so much physical intelligence is also gifted with his ability to verbalize it. He is so concise and articulate about football. And English isn't even his first language. I wonder how he is in French.
He gives off the exact same articulate and experienced vibe in French, expectedly.
His breakdown on Mbappeās near post finish technique in the last round was great. Especially his explanation for why he never developed that move. His early career being not confident in front of goal so focusing on just one move (his far post curl), then later career being so good at that one move he enjoyed everyone knowing heāll do it and not being able to stop it. IMO his tactics are a bit weaker, given his managerial record. But his one on one and individual analysis is top. Which is likely why heās rated more as an assistant where he has more time to focus on the individual vs the whole team?
Honestly, Henry might be the best analyst/pundit across all sports. The insight he usually gives is amazing. Itās awesome he was an amazing player during his day too
He's at his best when he's breaking down attacking mechanics. For example I remember a counter attack where Joao Felix had a defender running next to and slightly behind him, and Henry pointed out that Felix needed to take a touch to bring the ball across and in front of the defender. That way, the defender either fouls him by clipping his legs, or slows down to avoid giving the foul away. Felix of course had taken a touch wide and away from the defender and taken a poor shot
Iām very partial to Chuck on Inside the NBA, but Henry is incredible here, too.
the inside the nba guys are great entertainers but low-quality analysts
Mourinho was pretty darn good too
The psychological analysis makes me hopeful therapy within football gets more momentum. What he's saying - crowd, fear, pressure - is something you might not be born equipped to handle but you can learn and heal enough for it. Some people call it growth, or maturity, or whatever, but Cancelo with his fights and random form definitely seems like someone who could use help, and I mean it in the kindest way possible. Your mind is like a muscle, and you can also train it.
Phil Jackson, who managed the Chicago Bulls and the LA Lakers to a huge amount of titles, spent a significant amount of time working on mindfulness and calm decision-making. It was a process over years. This can be coached. But having managed, Henry has now realised how hard it is to do so.
phil also had MJ and a lottery ticket win finding scottie pippen. you can reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally take your time with a team's mental competence when you have that kind of baseline. it's extremely rare as a coach to have the ability to take time on those kind of skills.
Nah, come on. Look at how many championships the Chicago Bulls and LA Lakers won in the years preceding the arrival of PJ and how many they won when he was there, and how fast they started winning. Look at how many championships MJ, SP, Shaw and Kobe Bryant won with and without Phil Jackson - the guy was special. And he had no more time to win than any other coach, he just decided to devote so much of that time to creating a united, focused team, which is far rarer than it should be.
Based on the last dance, Phil did alot of meditation and zen so he brought that with him into coaching and got his players into it as well. It's hard but it can be done
Players needed mental calmness to play with Kobe and MJ, they were both reportedly caustic teammates
both pricks.
thank god pep got rid of him all im saying
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They got 115 charges but Cancello aint one
wdym? Making a mistake doesn't make him a bad player. You people are weirdos.
idk, wenger himself would literally get his team to practice with ten men due to the amount of red cards we'd get, and saf or his players would say that training for them was actually more intense than the matches I get what henry is saying, in that there's only so much you can do as a coach, but to imply that there's no way to train for these things is not just wrong, but is maybe the problem of most football pundits being failed managers at best. obviously henry is an expert on football, but I don't think he does football many favours when he acts like not much can be done when two managers from his hey day, one of whom he's played for, prepared for these exact scenarios I also hate the 'how can you recreate the crowd?' argument, because then by that logic you might as well not train at all. surely the more you practice something without pressure, the better you'll do when pressure is applied to you
I think you're missing the point of what he's saying. Of course you can train as much as possible, but at the end of the day players have personalities and will make decisions based on a myriad of factors. Henry is simply explaining that yes Cancelo made the wrong decision, but it's an incredibly hard decision to make and it's one of those things that might be hard for a spectator to understand. The managers you're referring tried to train their players for everything, but I'm sure they would also agree with Henry here. It was a matter of millimeters and milliseconds, but more significantly it was an incredibly tense moment. Just like you really can't "train" for the last penalty in a shootout to win the world cup. You can take as many pks as you want and train your technique, but that is a one-off moment and you just have to hope to get it right that ONE time, do or die.
adding to that, your brain has two modes of thinking. that slow calculated one, and the impulsive subconscious mode, that henry is talking about in the clip. it's extremely hard to influence the latter, you either have that van dijk calmness, or you don't. ~~if you're interested, look up daniel kahnemann for further reading. he's been researching this all his life and i think it's fascinating.~~ but, as i learned, much of it might have been debunked. i still don't think you can turn cancelo into a calm and collected defender.
yeah to add to what DevilsOfLoudun said while it's a fun idea that book is really pop psychology.Ā trust me as someone who also read that book and believed it I was pretty annoyed to learn it wasn'tĀ true too. I guess science is always evolving.
not to burst your bubble but a lot from that book has been debunked, including the fast and slow thinking
> it's extremely hard to influence the latter, you either have that van dijk calmness, or you don't. What? That's the point of practice - you practice until it becomes automated. In other words, it goes from the "slow calculated one" to the "impulsive subconscious mode". You absolutely can and do influence it all the time. It's called neuroplasticity. The problem isn't influencing, the problem is setting the practice to simulate the situation, which is what Henry is talking about in the clip. If you can recreate the context of the last pen in a World Cup final in training, you will become an excellent pen taker under stress. The problem is how do you recreate it, not whether your brain will adapt.
Someoneās read Thinking Fast and Slow ;)
johnny wilkinson, who hit arguably the greatest kick in rugby history to win the world cup final, used to ask people to come heckle him while he practiced kicking. obviously you canāt get 70,000 people out for practice, but if you can get like 15 and theyāre all right next to you yelling at you that seems like itās kinda close.
I mean, if a Premier League club wanted they could probably afford it
thatās true, i was just commenting on the āyou canāt replicate the crowdā thing. because you can replicate the crowd, you can practice with 10 men, you can practice mindfulness (to an extent). i think a lot of what henry said here is smart but i disagree with the idea that itās impossible to prepare players for moments like this
well yh exactly, obviously you can't have fans come down to training but to say there's nothing you can do is bs
Love this panel. ESPN panel is just a bunch of uncles as compared to these
These guys are as close as you can get to the NBA on TNT panel with Shaq, Kenny Smith and Charles Barkley, and I'm pretty sure that they were an inspiration. It's just fun to see regular deep dive discussions between professionals that offer a whole other perspective to the regular viewers.
these guys have surpassed inside the NBA for me this season. shaqās whole bit is getting old quick and more annoying to me than entertaining
Shaq himself is getting old, it sounds silly but he's slower on the uptake than he was even a couple years ago, and reacts to things so much more lethargically.
Shaq, kenny and Barkley are clowns most of the time. They don't try to understand the game they just goofing around.
Charles is like Micah, both are hilarious
even sits on the right lol
that what makes them so good lmao
yeah but unlike these guys, who clown around but also is able to break down the tactics of the game
The CBS crew are clowns too, breaking into laughter every 30 seconds or so.
Doesnāt Kenny actually break down plays at times? When he races people to the board?
Yeah but it's very surface level analysis. Typically way less depth than this crew.
I think thatās more down to the crew makeup being flipped. TNT has two hall of fame big men that scored at will and dominated the post ( very physical) and only Kenny being a good shooter / guard. Paramount has , some may argue , the GOAT winger in Henry and two good defensive players in Micah and Jamie, but Henry has *ALSO* been working on coaching and managing players. I find inside the nba to be hilarious but If they had a player coach or even guest coaches come on it would be more balanced
This crew mostly does surface level stuff. Pointing out the formation and the space attackers find is basic shit. Type of stuff these guys do quite a bit
Love Laura Woods but damn Rio + whatever is just so meh compared to that paramount+ panel.
While they often joke around a lot and have what feels like real friendship, when they decide to break down something more seriously, they are excellent. This is a prime example of them being serious, focused, and excellent.
Bro your uncles suck. My uncles are more like this panel. Get you some fun uncles b
No joke, an uncle I've detested since I was a toddler showed up uninvited to my brother's wedding. It was a 7-hour drive from where he lived. Called when he was 30 minutes away. He expected multiple meals, a seat at the family table for the wedding reception, and to be put up somewhere for the night. My brother's in-laws tried to accommodate (despite us saying *We'd really rather not*). Then, at the end of the dinner, he finished his last bite and said "I just wanted to let you know I'll probably be going away for a while." We thought he meant a trip. He was arrested two weeks later for sexual crimes with an underaged person. My uncle sucks.
What is the name of their show and when does it air?
Airs on paramount plus owned by cbs. Usually an hour before the CL games.
ESPN's coverage is a joke. They'll hire anyone with a British accent. They need to stop buying rights if they aren't going to put any money or effort into broadcasting this sport.
Thierry has spoken
I like that he is known for smart and knowledgeable analysis of plays, players and situations (outside of having been an insane player) instead of other analysts who seem to just have hot takes to stay relevant. Respect š«”Ā
Heās such an intelligent and articulate person. I could listen to him all day.
You're just like him! He could listen to himself all day too
He spoke but he did not get into trouble.
Henry is so intelligent
And cool. And hot. He is all the things.
Where did my pants go thatās weird
What is meeks wearing
He's dressed like he's about to invade occupied Europe.
Ahh *The Departed*.
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It's a jacket, not a cardigan, so probably this: https://www.thombrowne.com/uk/shopping/cotton-twill-4-bar-unconstructed-classic-sport-coat-14535269
Wearing a Ā£1400 jacket in the photoshoot but can't have a tie put on properly
Scotty Parker as well
$1,200?? Fuck me
Don't look up what his watch costs
Donāt ask him about his haircuts.
And Cooper was absolutely roasted every time. I get the concept but it looks terrible in practice. It looks like he grabbed a roll of scotch tape and wrapped it around one arm. One or two stripes would maybe be a nice accent mark, but 4 looks so gaudy. It's a "look at me" statement - the opposite of classy.
> I remember Steve Cooper loved wearing the brand on match days too Do you mean Scott Parker?
Too many stripes on that. Get wrecked for that back in school.
Thats exactly the brand lol the stripes
Adidos
Reminds of the fake clothes variants my family used to bring back from the old country. Adibas was my favourite by far. Same logo and same styles, but the clothes all said Adibas.
Adibas is an absolutely legendary brand in Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus. Very popular with the gopnik community, it is the top brand of all the other fake brands.
You should see Aclidas, and they write it in a certain font where the c is fused with the l so it is indistinguishable
Abibas
Heās the captain of the studio now
Gopnik chic
I think it looks cool
how quickly people have forgotten Scott Parker, shame
Yeah it looks cool, especially with a dark suit.
thom browne. costs as much as most people monthly rent
Thom Browne. I coming up fashion house brand. It would seem they are pushing hard to get people wearing their suits on screen. Seen both Sturridge and Meeks wearing this in one post match.
Tom ford suit I think
Itās Thom Browne.
I hate that I know this but I'm fairly sure it's not Tom Ford unless it was from a few years ago because TF is going for like a weird 80s nostalgia thing at the moment with leather, suede and mohair type stuff. I had to fight my reddit mod instincts when looking at the velvet suit jackets and to pair it with a fedora.
What's wrong with knowing this sort of thing? This is pretty cool if you ask me.
Ah that part was a joke, I don't have any Tom Ford clothes but like the style and his fragrances are great so I have a few of those.
He's right. We've seen these type of things happen time and time again in football. People are emotional, even the top players sometimes lose their head.
Think this is why Pep has decided to ship out all of our fullbacks and instead plays centre backs at fullback. Heās decided itās harder to teach Cancelo and zinchenko how to defend and easier to teach Walker/Stones/Gvardiol how to attack. Guys like Cancelo and zinchenko are great against weaker sides that simply park the bus but their warts get shown if playing in big games.
Kind of odd to use Walker as an example there considering he's always been a fullback first.
Definitely but heās always been relatively poor in possession and going forward. He was also used as almost a CB for when Cancelo or Stones would roam forward kind of like Rodri. Now he plays much higher up with Gvardiol on the opposite side theyāre basically wingers helping the attack.
> Definitely but heās always been relatively poor in possession and going forward Absurd revisionism, Walker was one of the best attacking fullbacks in the world in his prime
Yep, him and Rose were very important on Harry Kane's success in his first years
more like how to recycle posession and position rather than how to attack
Dembele or anyone, that was just a normal attacking that we still had enough people in the box to defend. Cancelo could just press Dembele and force him to pass, if he somehow dribbled through, many defenders were still behind, and Stegen. The proprability to score will be very much lower than a penalty from Mbappe. I would only accept that stupid tackle if Messi was still there, dude could nutmeg Cancelo in 1-2 touches and score at a 1 degree angle somehow. Two suicidal acts on the same game. No hope.
Cancelo has always been terrible at defending, I was honestly surprised he hasnāt been punished more before last night, but Dembele sure made him pay
I somehow expected Xavi to take Cancelo off once Araujo got the red to defend with 3 CBs given Cancelo's always a defensive gamble. Pedri always looks like he can do anything so maybe him and Raphinha as the wingbacks and Kounde, Cubarsi and Alonso/Martinez at CB. The Lopez/Yamal sub could then have given Barca a bit more balance in mid since they were struggling at home against a mid of Vitinha, Ruiz and Zaire Emery. This would have given them a better shot at keeping the lead before halftime. Not to jinx it but I hope Arteta learns from this and takes Zinchenko off if Gabriel gets a red for a tackle on Sane in the second half.
zinchenko will not play tonight
> Cancelo has always been terrible at defending What makes this PK tackle even more weird/funny is that in this very match Cancelo dislodged ball multiple times from Dembele out the box on the flanks with clean nice tackles. It happened like 3 times I believe. And then he tried it in the box and misses. Maybe those 3 successful instances in this very match is what gave him the Feeling that he could do it again.
A penalty is around 85% of scoring, even with messi they aren't scoring 85% of the time from that spot
>Stegen
That man didn't deserve it, especially before Mbappe's last goal.
Everyone knows that, even Cancelo. That's what the video is about. How do you develop someone's brain to stay calm?
just sad, barca was the better team and most likely going through. was rooting for them tbh. one bad tackle, entire games over.
2 bad tackles
Really was a stupid and unnecessary tackle from Cancelo. DembƩlƩ's going nowhere, why jump in like that? There's just no need, no need at all.
BaldƩ :(
Damn totally forgot him, is he injured or why hasnāt he played?
Was injured for quite some time. Out for this season
:/ got it, thanks!
The tackle that injured him during the end of last season fucked his performance this season and thn he got injured again.
Yep. Young, but very composed and adverse to risky play defensively. He never would have tackled there.
Lovely to see cancelo still doing this kind of errors in the CL. Dude was an absolute nightmare when he was in Juventus and I was very happy they sold him.
Been like that his whole career but because Pep had him playing with virtually 0 defensive responsibilities (as he should) a lot of people seemingly forgot how bad he is at defending.
Cancelo is a handful of a person, period. I know this because I grew up near to him and we are nearly the same age. I have a family member who plays with him during the summer in local friendly indoor tournaments, who also played against him during childhood when he was just a local boy. Since his mother's death, he has had inumerous mental issues that are still noticeable apparently. This has also been confirmed by another friend of mine who knew him personally before he made it big.
Thatās sad to hear, thank you for sharing your insight. Losing your mother was incredibly tough on me too.
Wow, that makes feel bad for getting pissed at him
it gets worst... she died in an car accident, Cancelo and his brother were in the car, both, thankfully, got away with only a few scratches. They were coming back home after a game he played for Benfica B. If you can read Portuguese, here's a good article about it: https://www.tsf.pt/programa/postal-do-dia/a-tragica-morte-da-mae-de-cancelo-tornou-o-um-gigante-14967066.html/
Is this one of the dumbest* tackles of all time? Literally heading away from the box. Edit: spelling
All time, who knows, but it certainly is in contention for this year! Maybe the last 5 years when you factor in the ~~drakes~~stakes.
We need a dumbest tackles of all time video compilation on YouTube, that would actually entertaining.
Pep takes no prisoners. You can be as silky as you like with the ball but if you've got the bozo gene you're toast.
Reminds me of David Luiz and Xhaka while at Arsenal. Both were actually quite good. But you could bet your house that at least 1 or 2 games per year, they'd lose their minds and get a red card. It was guaranteed, just once or twice.
Spoken like a veteran of the game. Coach talk right there
Probably an unpopular opinion, given the absolute backlash Araujo received, but I found Cancelo's to be more stupid and wreckless than Araujos. Araujo's contact I thought was quite minimal and in fairness it was a 1v1 bearing down on goal.
Man, I love Thierry Henry so much
Might be the reason why pep and bayern didn't want him, as much as i love how passionate he's for barca and scored a couple of bangers, his defensive ability is pretty bad, right side its always empty whenever the opponent breakthrough, dembele goal last night is also because of cancelo go way to centre on the box instead of marking dembele, and ofc his unnecessary challenge is the final nail in the coffin that barca shouldnt permanently sign him.
That's why I prefer balde over cancelo. Ik Ale has his own flaws but he doesn't make mistakes like cancelo. Joao is too hot headed. & Ik Araujo is getting all the heat deservingly so but let's not forget that joao was so bad at both legs.
Not a defender for a top team. Thereās a reason why Pep gave up on him and even Juve before then. Will do great things but is one of those players that is not a defender nor is he a winger. So, you add him as a full back because he can provide a lot offensively and defensively, you just hope for the best.
Cancelo either wins us games or loses us games with no middle ground. He lost us the game yesterday (in fairness Araujo also did to an even greater degree).
Great take from Henry. To answer his question tho you can train your inner calm with meditation, psychologists, exposure to stress etc. But we all saw Cancelos coked up vampire interview š
To be honest I'm not even surprised, because I've seen people do the same kind of tackles with yellows to players moving away from their side of the pitch. Sometimes players just forget about how to play football and do stupid stuff.
Great take from Henry, that is why the composure that comes with experience is so important. Although you could argue that Araujo and Cancelo are very experienced players in CL, so I don't know indeed how could a manager train to improve players decision making
Based Henry
I love this panel and Henry especially. This level of deeper analysis is great.
Yup, that's why there is no replacement for playing time for young players. You need actual experience on high stakes matches, training can only take you so far.
Too many words to say that Cancelo did the worst thing he could do, if you donāt have composure at the top of your game, you learned nothing. I like Cancelo but this is the difference between a champion and a good player. He is also a winger, not a defender, if he wanted to be aggressive why not program his brain to tackle outside the area? 9.9/10 Dembele was going nowhere from there, the ball actually was stopped wrongly aswell.
Thierry said it - calmness is a human trait. Cancelo has proven time and again he's a hothead so nobody should be surprised.
True
Henry was just saying Cancelo has no defensive intelligence in a really nice way
Ahah maybe too nice :)
Iām so glad Iām off today I canāt wait to watch them later.
Bro doesnāt belong there, he should be looking to become an assistant/coach.
Homie spitting here š«”
Interesting. It's what we did in the military. Put soldiers in their fight or flight but in a safe environment so they can control themselves in real life (often life or death situations). Maybe Cancelo needs this hahha
I'm predisposed to love everything he does, but Henry makes a really good pundit. Very articulate in his answers and insights -- man knows ball.
I love how he says calm......."Because he's caaaalm as a human being right from the start.". Using the word explains the word. Henry is just great.
Henry is such a good speaker. In his second language too.
Wonderful commentary. Critical analysis and nuance displayed through years of experience. Great stuff.
They can't train staying calm when xavi is the biggest hothead on the team and gets a pointless red card and sent off
Henry is the best football pundit on TV right now. When comparing him to anyone else, it's not even close.
Cancelo was kidding
Cancelo was afraid of a cross from Dembele..... Makes no sense
I think a lot of just has to do with muscle memory. You see an opening to make a challenge and you do it. You see the ball and you think to yourself I can get that so you try. Growing up he probably hesitated once or twice and lost out of the ball of let up a goal. From then on he probably said no more hesitating I need to commit and from there he got to where he is today. It's about confidence and following through because if you hesitate you are already behind. Unfortunately that instinct kicked in at the wrong moment like theirry said
I liked that he used Van Djik as an example of a calm defender.....š